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"TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
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01-10-05, 01:35 PM (EST)
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"TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
A lot of couples have broken up playing this game. Watching past episodes, as well as this one, depicts the majority of couples parting ways after the show - Flo&Zach, Cip&Riechen, and so on. I guess my question is "Would these couples still be together had they not undertaken this venture." We all think it would be fun, but I'm sure, so did they... My wife and I have applied, but we're not dissapointed anymore if we don't get a call.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? Bebo 01-10-05 1
   RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? seahorse 01-11-05 10
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? nailbone 01-10-05 2
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? realitybites 01-10-05 3
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? mikey 01-10-05 4
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? Earl Colby Pottinger 01-10-05 5
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? Spidey 01-10-05 6
   RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? Bebo 01-11-05 9
       RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? PepeLePew13 01-11-05 11
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? TARJUNKIE999 01-10-05 7
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? Ruthless 01-11-05 8
 RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!? Cygnus X1 01-11-05 12

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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings
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01-10-05, 01:50 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
I just keep thinking back to a long-ago episode of Murphy Brown where Miles says that no one should be allowed to get married before they've taken a road trip. With a map.

Yeah, the Race tests relationships. But guess what? So does life. Most of the couples that broke up because of the Race already knew they had some issues to deal with. The Race provides a high-pressure situation 24/7. Some couples can handle that, others can't.

For the couples that broke up after doing the Race together, I think that if this hadn't broken them up, something else would have. It's just an indication that they didn't have a strong enough relationship to make it through a tough time.

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01-11-05, 09:56 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
Totally agree. If they were meant to break up, the race might speed it along, but the ones who have broken up would have broken up anyway, just maybe not as quickly.


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2. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
I agree with Beebs (yes, darlin', you make that look DAMN good!!). If they break up over something like this, they have no business being together, thinking long term.


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01-10-05, 02:12 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
I agree with other sentiments that the couples who broke up over the show weren't likely to stick together in the long run anyway.

P.S. Flo & Zach weren't a couple at the time of TAR3. They were just friends.

Reality shows that don't/didn't bite: Lost, The Amazing Race, Beg Borrow & Deal, The Wild Rules, I Wanna Date a Race Car Driver, American Dream Derby (pending)
Reality shows that bit but I watched anyway: Love Cruise, The Bachelor(ette), Joe Millionaire, Married By America

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01-10-05, 02:29 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
TAR also brought some couples together, at least for a while:

Flo & Drew
Tara & Alex
Brennan & Emily

A couple of breakups were mercy-killings: Lenny and Karen, Russell and Cindy. Other than the Reichen and Chip situation, I can't think of any actual marriages that were broken up.

If they go through with a reunion show, it would be interesting to see if some of the couples lasted. I don't think any of the above did, but what happened to the relationships of:

The Virgins
Frank and Margherita

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01-10-05, 03:13 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
Not only do I agree with the previous posters, I would also like to point out where TAR has been a source of positive affects with relationships.

As far as I can remember, not one single parent/child team has gone away from this game without the parent's view of thier child's adultness undergoing a major upgrade.

Most of the children of such teams have also gain more respect of thier parents - none that I know of expressed that they lowered thier respect in any way.

More than one team has had thier eyes openned to countries that they had before believed bad things about.

Every couple that has not gone down in flames, seems to come out of the race as stronger than when they entered it.

Without the really toxic couples, TAR seems to do more good than bad to me.

Earl Colby Pottinger

I would love to take my girlfriend on TAR with me, I am sure we could not win - but it would more than anything expose the core of our relationship.

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01-10-05, 04:59 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
I have a different take on it. Mr. Spidey and I decided long ago that this was not a game for us. We are horrible travelers. I am impatient and he gets lost, a lot.

So, for us it's a matter of knowing our limitations. In the same way we know we could never run a business together.

We live fabulously intertwined, but far from identical, lives and taht suits us just fine.

However, if I ever did want to make him leave me, TAR is the first place I'd look.


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01-11-05, 08:38 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
So, for us it's a matter of knowing our limitations. In the same way we know we could never run a business together.

You bring up an excellent point that I didn't really get across the way I would have liked.

Successful couples don't do everything together. But they understand where to draw lines and how to handle those things that they really aren't suited to do together. As you've pointed out, there are some couples that should not try to enter this sort of competition together. I know quite a few couples who would say, "I love you honey, but we should pass on this."

How would Mr. B and I do? We're exceptionally travel-compatible, so we'd do just fine on the travel side of things. And even though we yell a bit in times of stress, we never say anything that would cause a long-term problem.

And since he can drive stick shift, he'll ask for directions, and we're both good at reading maps, we'd probably kick some serious butt.

You know the difference between you and me? I make this look good.

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01-11-05, 11:06 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
You know, it's the same thing for Pene and I... we're VERY compatible when it comes to travelling and she can drive a mean stick shift (ok let's not go there), but she's not really an 'adventurous' sort, so she wouldn't fit in well with some of the challenges going on, plus she'd rather take it easy and take in all the sights than running pell-mell through the towns and airports.

On the other hand, my brother and I would make for a major kick-##### team. We'd brawl a little bit on each other, but he knows a few languages (he lived in Czechoslovakia for a few years and travelled around the world on a semester-at-sea program) and he has a real knack for knowing how to deal with people in other countries, while I know the airline systems and maps almost inside-out. Got 100% on the African geography expert quiz that Pooh posted on the geography thread over on OT last week.



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01-10-05, 05:16 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
LAST EDITED ON 01-10-05 AT 06:31 PM (EST)

As my local state lottery keeps reminding me, "You can't win if you don't play!"

Life is not a spectator sport, and neither is a reality TV show. If you want the $1M dollars, you have to dance for the puppetmaster. A famous quote says, "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation". These racers choose to go for the brass ring, and LIVE!

Life is what you make it!

...he he, what a load of hooey!"

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01-11-05, 05:56 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
I would love to do this race, so would Mr Ruthless, however, not with me. Mr Ruthless would be a bit like Gus, wanting to take our time. However, I would want to rush off immediately, without taking the time to read the clue properly.

Would we break up if we did the race? Highly unlikely, we've been married for so long now,and had far worse challenges during all that time than we would get in the race.

We've had little TAR moments over the years, our most famous one being the time we got lost in a not very good part of Sydney. We were tired and cranky, and had no idea where we were. We had a street directory, and kept snatching it from each other trying to find where we were. Every street we wanted to go down was a one way street the wrong way. One we thought would get us to where we wanted to go ended in a set of stairs. It took us about half an hour to find our way out. Funny now, but boy did we scream at each other a lot before we did.

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12. "RE: TAR, is it really worth it !?!?"
The only area in which DW and I wouldn't do well is that neither of us are in good physical shape. And I probably would have a few moments of stress that would be good for the cameras because I tend to vocalize EVERYthing. Fortunately, DW keeps me grounded (it's hard to get her upset), and I'd keep her going (in a non-Jonathan way).

I'm a good navigator, having read maps from an early age. She'd be the stickshift driver. I don't think we'd be the Ugly Americans, but we would have to learn how to be just assertive enough with cabbies. I do speak some French.

We might have our moments of conflict and disagreement, but I'm sure they'd blow over. We don't hold grudges.

If you want the second coming of Avi and Joe, send me with my youngest brother (we're 14 years apart). We'd come in dead last, but we'd sure enjoy every minute of that first leg!

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