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"Episode 13 Vidcaps"
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1. "Next time on Survivor..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-05-11 AT 07:07 AM (EST)The preview promo as uploaded from Survivor Fever, thanks so much! 
Transcript:
Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor... Ashley: And then there were five! Ashley and Natalie: Yay! Ashley : I love blindsides.Probst: This close to the end... Grant : Splitting them up is the best route.Rob : Know that I've got your back. Ashley can't be trusted.Probst: ...every moment... Grant : ....a snake, bro!Phillip : I don't give a...Natalie : Get out of our faces!Probst: ...counts. Rob : One thing you don't' want to happen...Natalie falls out of shelter. Rob: It happens. Natalie and Ashley: Psycho!
So, as CTGirl and KiKi had noted in the ESCT Thread last night, Ashley appears to be setting up nicely as the next boot....We see her return to camp saying, "and then there were 5!" "Yeah!", and then in confessional, "I love blindsides!"
Then we have Grant telling Rob that they have to be broken up, clearly he's referring to Nat and Ash...Most likely Rob has Nat's back here... Then we have Rob note to Natalie in private, that he's got her back, and that Ashley can't be trusted...look at Natalie's face when he says that.... Very foreshadowing indeed. But then, as always, we have Phillip. Last night Rob talked with his sister. That he has a plan to be the F2 with Grant, and he has a plan to be the F2 with Natalie, he has options, but the one thing that you don't want to happen is them talking to each other, and he ended the statement with a solid, "But, they won't". Then in the promo we hear Rob saying, the one thing that you don't want to happen, happened. So, obviously someone is talking. And, who is most likely to be blabbing? Phillip. We see Phillip swearing at someone, then we see Natalie yelling back at Phillip and getting up to leave... I wouldn't be surprised to see Phillip finally go next week....but, as with Andrea this week, it appears that the boot order will be adhered to? **What kind of rodent is eating the crispy rice? Doesn't he know that's for Boston Rob???
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05-05-11, 08:04 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
LMAO about the rat eating Rob's rice.Ashley is the logical boot here. She hasn't been much of a character. I would have to watch again to be sure, but I didn't hear Rob telling his sister that he plans to go with Grant to F2. I heard that as he has a plan made with Grant, an agreement -- as opposed to Rob's actual intent (seems to be Phillip and Natalie he has chosen). He must have some kind of plan on how to deal with Grant, but apparently it is back burnered until Grant defeats the RI returnee. So basically at the second F5 or F4 (which we know of but Rob doesn't for sure), Grant needs to watch out. Oddly, Grant doesn't know this, but if he fails to beat the RI person at F5, it would seem he would be kept to fight in the F4. Similar to the keep Brett out of finals situation in Samoa. If the RI person were immune, and Grant was needed to fight next time, Rob would have to boot Phillip or Natalie. It would be a choice of facing the RI guy or Grant in the finals. Pardon me for looking ahead, but next week looks to be boring.
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05-05-11, 08:12 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
Also, I'll have to wait until Dabo and Corvis do a confessional count analysis but it sure seeemed to me that Ashley had a big upswing in face time last night. Her swan song before her boot.
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12. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
>Also, I'll have to wait until
>Dabo and Corvis do a
>confessional count analysis but it
>sure seeemed to me that
>Ashley had a big upswing
>in face time last night.
> Her swan song before
>her boot. I haven't gotten around to doing the counts this week, but I will, but take into account the loved ones showed up. (The kid comes home from college tomorrow, possibly retaining her 4.0, whoohoo!) Yeah, I may have been a week early predicting the Ashley-Phillip kabang. Notably, while I noticed a lot of movement in confessionals (like ohmyheck there is a Natalie-kid on the island), Ashley's confessionals were more of the Mr. Obvious narrator sort this week. She has no story of her own, she simply exists in relation to all the other stories being told. One thing in her favor, she seems to be the big sis to Natalie. As well, Phillip got an exit strategy, which is most unusual for a goat. He may get to the end, he may not, but they have allowed him a post-Survivor life, or possibly a return visit to the game.
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5. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
I was just commenting on this part of your post:>>> Last night Rob talked with his sister. That he has a plan to be the F2 with Grant, and he has a plan to be the F2 with Natalie, he has options, I read it one way, that he presented it as his plan. Thus my post. But I see the other meaning now. Your spec is really great on the worst thing that could happen. We have been wondering if it ever would happen that people discuss their deals. The only other thing I can think of is a less dire problem which is simply that Phillip has alienated the others to the point where they refuse to keep him ... which then leads to Rob campaigning against Ashley to Natalie. So does Grant see an actual snake or was he saying Ashley is a snake? I couldn't tell. Two things help keep Rob's deals on the down low (at least two): 1) the Buddy System ... which is now rendered moot
2) To talk about it involves revealing "Rob and I have a deal." No one wants to let that be known, as it will start people working against the person with the deal, or so they think. But yeah, Phillip is out there enough to shout it out, whether anyone believes him is another story. They would believe Rob told him that, but they would think it was a trick -- and tricking Phillip is acceptable.
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6. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-05-11 AT 09:04 AM (EST)Sorry, didn't mean to be misleading... Anyway, Yes, you could be right in that other option that Phillip alienates everyone to the point of no return...Girls and Grant go rogue...? Also, with Grant, I definitely think he was not talking about a real snake, but it was a metaphor...but, I don't know who he was referencing at this point....if they hadn't shown him talking to Rob at dark, we could have speculated that Grant was talking about ROB being the snake. So, most likely it's Ashley? Phillip? Nat? We hear Rob saying that he has Nat's back...which I believe he is sincere with...
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05-05-11, 01:19 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
I see both scenarios as likely re: the thing "you don't want to happen." (1) It very well could be (as FloPo writes) that they start "talking to each other" -- the very thing Rob worried about last episode (and he also noted, in confessional after talking to his sister, that if they did start talking to each other they would realize that he should be the one they boot). I do, however, think Rob can schmooze his way out of this, at least with the ones that matter (Natalie & Grant -- at this point, Ashley is the one he wants to go anyway, and she isn't going to be teaming up with Phillip to pull any kind of move against Rob as long as Natalie & Grant stay with him). So, regardless of this happening, Ashley is still getting the boot 4-1, IMO. (2) I can also see it being Phillip going past the point of no return (as OFG points out) so that Rob can no longer protect him (as he wants to do so that he can be the F3 goat). The *only* problem I have with this second scenario is that Natalie, for one, has said in the past that Phillip is the perfect guy to have at F3 because everyone hates him. Sure, she was probably spoon fed that by Rob, but she at least appears to be in on that plan with him -- I don't see why, regardless of what fresh h3ll Phillip creates around camp, she would go against that plan now. Further, if Natalie is in on that plan, I would think Grant is too. Of course, Natalie is young & maybe Rob telling her to go against her BFF Ashley in favor of keeping Phillip, who looks to have gotten even worse with his antics, will be too much for her & she chooses Ashely over Rob.{shrugs} Regardless, in that case it will be a 3-2 vote (3 guys vote Ashely; 2 girls vote Phillip) and Ashely goes anyway.
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05-05-11, 02:32 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-05-11 AT 02:33 PM (EST)I think if Grant gets to the F3, he will win, if only because the Zaps don't seem to want to vote for Rob & will only vote for him if he is up against Phillip and Natalie (I'm saying they don't like Natalie based on David's interviews saying Natalie "isn't that innocent" or some such words to that effect; I believe Julie would vote for Natalie over Rob & Phillip because she seems that naive about the game & wanting to vote for someone "good"). Grant, otoh, and Matt, for that matter, have all had nice things said about them by the booted Zaps (David, Julie & Steve). Rob must know how they feel, hence his desire to have Phillip (Public Enemy No. 1) and Natalie (Public Enemy No. 2) next to him. The only reason I can't see Grant getting to the F3 is because his edit has been pretty lacking thus far. Seriously, I'm thinking the winner is Rob & it has been right there, up in our faces, all season & the Matt Jesus edit and the Phillip is crazy edit have been nothing more than red herrings.
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15. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-05-11 AT 05:40 PM (EST)It does seem to bigger than a rat, I see a small pig like creature. Could be an opossum. Also, not apropos to anything, but the cat in one of the opening sequences on the episode aired 5/5? Jaguar? Ocelot? Frisky? Another spotted wild feline? If it's a jaguar, it's a serious problem, they attack largish creatures at night, and the gang are rapidly becoming smallish creatures. Sweet meat for a hungry Jag. Actually it seemed more like an ocelot which wouldn't be much of a problem unless they decided to try and pick it up and pet it. Very interesting and great camera work by the night shift.
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05-05-11, 08:27 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Next time on Survivor..." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-05-11 AT 08:28 PM (EST)Wow, great find, thanks for posting it here, VG! This is great. It looks like the Ashley v. Phillip conflict is going to be resolved this week. Grant wants the girls to be split up, but last week Rob seriously considered Phillip as the boot. If the pattern that the Andrea was misdirection in ep 11, and was indeed the boot in ep 12, holds then Phillip who was misdirection in ep 12, could indeed be the boot in ep 13. It's a coin toss...Rob's whim...Phillip or Ashley...? This is also got to be what Rob is talking about as to what happened.... PS. Tribe: My vote is that it's a 'possum...
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05-06-11, 01:39 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Episode 13 Vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-06-11 AT 01:40 AM (EST)ooh, looking forward to caps on that! Rob gives his word to everyone but Ashley. On the surface, it looks pretty straightforward. Rob is ready to boot Ashley, and Natalie tells Rob that Ashley thinks she and Nat are good to the end. They've been together from the beginning. Robfaddah instructs Nat to do as she's told and that will be to vote out her BFF without letting on, which will be a harsh blindside for Ashley. It may be a control thing or a jury strategy, but Rob doesn't want split votes. He wants it 4-1, so that Ashley won't blame him. Her 4 to 1 gesture must have made the editors very happy to get handed such excellent material for narrative irony.
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05-06-11, 02:49 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Episode 13 Vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-06-11 AT 11:53 AM (EST)Edit to correct pic links b/c of SF website gallery reshuffle Here's some quick caps that MayanSun(SurvivorFever) got up...not everything is capped yet This is the RI chal....
Table Maze w/Tile Smash 
Puzzle Assembly 
=================================================== Then 'Bone to Pick' IC 
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05-06-11, 09:37 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: RI Challenge" |
Poor Ralph indeed. If there is a spelling component to this puzzle, Andrea is a student, Matt and Mike both occupy some of their time reading Krista's Bible, but Ralph may have some form of dyslexia.
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27. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-06-11 AT 07:23 AM (EST)Thanks for posting! Basically, this promo shows that Rob has made a promise with everyone but Ashley....if she's the blatant target, it makes me think that she will not go... This is either a straight forward boot on a platter, or Ashley is the misdirection and someone else will go...the key is within this clue, I believe: while another castaway’s plan for a big move could prove to be their biggest mistake Who is capable of making a big move...who would venture to? Ashley or Phillip
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29. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
- Rob (historically) keeps his loyalty to his most loyal people.
- Phillip has not been "loyal."
- Ashley votes for Natalie 100% of the time, until Rob says that Natalie snitched.
- Phillip's killer-comment about why Rob shouldn't win: sounded just as likely to come from a juror's seat as the end-seat.
- Ashley's promo is over-the-top blatant. Rob's "you and me, Phillip" edit could be the irony.
- Phillip is easily swayed by smooth-talking Rob - he'd still vote for Rob at F3.
- F5 is the traditional right time to mix things up by breaking alliances - but Rob doesn't go that way (historically).
- Ashley and Natalie both saw spikes in airtime last week... with Natalie being given a small religious edit (shades of Mike & Matt?)
- Natalie is (historically) a snitch. "Do what I say" could become "Hey Ashley, guess what!" ... could become "Natalie, bring me your torch."
I guess I'm leaning towards a Phillip boot right now, since Rob has (historically) been super-loyal to super-loyal people, and Phillip's Day 39 speech sounds like it'd be better from the jury box, story-wise. Rob and Grant will win a F4 endurance contest against Ashley and Natalie... and even if they don't, Ashley takes Rob as her "goat," or Rob can convince Natalie to vote out Ashley because they're essentially interchangeable ("plus that whole Ralph thing, remember?") So, calling it now: Phillip is next.
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05-06-11, 06:02 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
As long as Phillip, Rob and Grant vote for Ashley, she's gone. But Natalie will probably end up voting for her too. I can't really see what else would happen.
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05-06-11, 10:24 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
People who are going to end up before the jury typically are shown talking about their end game. Ashley and Grant have not. Rob, Phillip, and Natalie have. Ashley has one confessional on Insider now about her plans.Ashley is also the type who can win one of those final endurance challenges or balance challenges, whidh Rob as veteran needs to account for. Also, it is at this point of the game that the power of two really becomes a threat. Too close for comfort -- you don't leave two BFF in at F4, both with a good shot at winning an endurance contest of some sort. Phillip is a loner. A group of loners who each have alliance with Rob. Good.
Couples, bad. Ashley's big move is probably an effort to keep Phillip from staying in as the goat, which could shut her out. She could work both Grant and Natalie towards that end. Both will rat her out to Rob. Leaving Rob out of a plan means you are toast.
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05-07-11, 02:11 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
Totally agree with you but, in @ss, Rob voted out the loyal loner, Big Tom, and kept the couple of Rupert and Jenna. If one of them had won immunity, it would have been tough for both Rob and Amber to stay in the game. In effect, Rob reset the game back to square one at F4 by eliminating his ally Tom when voting out Rupert would have solidified things. For some reason, it's never as simple on the island as it is on paper!Really, if Rob considers he can get the jury votes against Natalie, then he shouldn't have to worry too much about Ashley. In fact, those two might split the anti-Rob votes whereas Phillip wouldn't. For example, against Phil, the vote could go 5-4-0 with either Rob or Natalie getting the 5 (I'm not talking editing here because I've long declared Rob the winner. I'm strictly talking from Rob's game strategy perspective) Against Natalie and Ashley, Rob could win 4-3-2.
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05-07-11, 02:36 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-11 AT 02:46 AM (EST)Really, if Rob considers he can get the jury votes against Natalie, then he shouldn't have to worry too much about Ashley. In fact, those two might split the anti-Rob votes whereas Phillip wouldn't. For example, against Phil, the vote could go 5-4-0 with either Rob or Natalie getting the 5 (I'm not talking editing here because I've long declared Rob the winner. I'm strictly talking from Rob's game strategy perspective) Against Natalie and Ashley, Rob could win 4-3-2. That is actually a very interesting & smart point. But, as you said, things on the island might not be like they are on paper --in the scenario you give, the jury could also shut out Natalie completely in favor of Ashley (who Rob has noted has been "friendly" with the Zaps) and he could end up losing anyway 5-4-0. Who to take to the end is really pretty tricky. Rob must have good reason (other than Rooster telling Ashley he would vote for her if she gets to F3) and/or know something we don't to be set against taking Ashley (as opposed to Natalie) to F3 -- and he definitely does seem set against it, IMO. eta: I'm saying this because it seems to me that Rob has been playing a very logical, thought-out game. He wouldn't be set against Ashley in the F3 on a "whim" or simply because of what Rooster told her --sure, the comment he made about her not going to F3 was good tv, but I think he has more reason than that. The fact is, this has been the Rob & Matt (with sidekick Phillip) show since Russell's boot & we haven't really gotten to know anyone else so we don't know Ashley & Natalie (other than their "Spa Girl" edits) or how they related to the Zaps -- maybe Ashley has been nice & friendly while Natalie has been distant/bratty (which is why Rooster approached Ashley, not Natalie -- he may have seen an opening there he didn't see with Natalie) -- and Rob is taking that into account in his F3 game plan. We really don't know for sure, this is all spec on my part, but I'm thinking I'm on the right track (if I do say so myself! Ha!)
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40. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
I think the Big Tom situation was a special case. Tom was originally a fine goat, but Rob had alienated Lex, and Lex and Tom had a connection. Rupert and Jenna were the only ones from their seasons. They were not that tight a couple; they had merely started out on the same tribe and gotten split onto Chapera. They complained a lot about each other. Rob had separate deals with both of them. Ashley and Natalie are genuinely tight, despite the tattling we've seen from Natalie. Maybe they wouldn't do anything, but Rob knows that they SHOULD unite against him if they were smart at all. Rob should probably have kept Big Tom, as he was a very loud angry voice on the jury, However, I remember that Tom was urging Rob to boot Amber. So Tom also had to go for that reason, that he wanted Amber out, whereas Jenna and Rupert were willing to go the challenge route to see who prevailed. Thinking of the votes is all very well, but getting past the F4 is more important. Rob could take on any one of those remaining, but the main thing is he needs to get there, and any hint of someone playing his or her game will set him off.
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42. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
Tom was urging Rob to eliminate Amber at F3. He wasn't going to do anything before that and he hated both Rupert and Jenna. Tom was just stupid to declare himself the swing vote! If he had brought Tom to the F3, Rob could have won.Despite not being a strong pair all we have learned from Rupert tells us that, at F4 with immunity, he would have been loyal to Jenna. Of course, if they had been dumb enough to vote against Rob, I don't give Jenna too much luck beating him in a fire-challenge but they could have voted against Amber and then who knows? Anyway, this is a long time ago with different people. I just wanted to point out that it's hard to see what the players will do, that our line of thinking is sometimes miles away from what they are thinking because we know so little of what is really going on. As for Rob's road to the F4, I don't think it will be too difficult. The final vote is the tough part. The RI returnee will want to get revenge but who would want to team up with someone that has been making friends with everyone on the jury? That player makes F3 if and only if he wins all the immunities then it's lights out for everyone else anyway. Since they can't do anything about the returnee except beat him or her in a challenge, I think the voting decisions are limited to the Ometepe 5. I also think that Rob gets to the F3 in any configuration unless Phillip is there. Rob is taking a chance by carrying such an attractive goat and he will need that F4 immunity. Then again, winning a challenge against Ashley, Natalie and Phillip wouldn't be too hard.
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05-07-11, 11:23 AM (EST)
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43. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-11 AT 11:28 AM (EST)Even with Big Tom going to F4, Rob's plan then was still to get to F2 with Amber. One of them had to win. (And Amber, really, was a good co-conspirator, but wasn't really ever much of a player on her own. But the romance was real.) Despite the selection of wannabe Ambuh's, there is no actual Amber in this game; it is F3, and Rob wants to win not be happy with 2nd or 3rd. So, Phillip is playing his own game, but he's the perfect goat. Ashley forgot one time to tattle to Rob. The something she forgot to tattle was that Ralph told her he would vote for her to win in the end. I don't know what the Tattler's Handbook says about how you go about tattling something like that, this is where the tiniest little unpredictable thing that upsets the equilibrium of Planet Rob marks you for life. Grant knows he does have to move against Rob but he's waiting for the right time. Meanwhile, he sticks to Rob like glue. Natalie can be very emotional. She's Big Tom and Lex rolled together in a tiny 19-year-old package, you don't want that emotion negatively aimed at you from the jury. (In Natalie's defense, she actually is a kid still at this stage of life so it is normal for her to sometimes not act like a grown-up.) So, it's Rob and Natalie going to the end, and Rob may not be able to control who is third at the end because of RI. Or it's Grant and Natalie and who? going to the end with Grant's plan to knock out Rob, send him to be the last to join the jury.
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05-07-11, 09:55 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
All of this talk about jurors, makes me wonder if Rob's perspective will be who can I beat in the end, vs. who that is left with me now would be more likely to vote for me in the end?I think Natalie would vote for Rob if she were on the jury. She would not hold it against him, imo. He has carried her on his back the entire way. They have a bond, and I think that she would not accept that Rob turned on her... Ashley, otoh, could hold it against him, imo. Phillip is such a whack job, I don't think I could begin to rationally predict what he would or wouldn't do.... I think Grant is a mature, gentle man....competitive - yes! But, I think they have gone round and round about someone has to go to RI....I think he'll be able to never lose sight of the fact that it is indeed a game, and therefore, if he's on the jury, I think he would favor Rob.
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05-07-11, 10:09 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
When Rob and Grant are sitting on the blanket, we hear one of them say, "My word is with you,dude....
I believe that it's Grant that is saying this to Rob.... Check it out here and here.
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50. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
I agree -- Grant is saying it. The use of the word "dude" confirms it, IMO. Grant is a California hippie/yogi/surfer "dude." OTOH, I don't think I've ever heard Rob say that word -- he would more likely say "bro" or "man" or even "youse guys."
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VolcanicGlass 428 desperate attention whore postings
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05-07-11, 11:41 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
Does that make FP my constant? Sorry for the flub, thanks for the catch/correction.
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05-08-11, 09:02 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
I'd be honored to be your constant, VG! Anytime you are traveling through time, and get into a bind, I'm there for you!!! 
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VolcanicGlass 428 desperate attention whore postings
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05-09-11, 12:47 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo" |
In the spirit of considering all boot options, we should take a look at Phillip. After dominating the promos in the past few weeks, this week we are given people's reactions to him. Phillip himself is very subdued.
Love the image from this vidcap, with the rope unraveling.
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05-08-11, 07:57 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Vidcaps - PIP promo" |
nice catch, tribe!Thay could be cut in from another time, or Ashley (and Grant?) could step away to get more wood? I don't see what Rob is talking about. If he trusts Grant, and Natalie -- and Natalie knows that -- what can Ashley do? Ally with an RI person? So what, two votes. Is there anything else that Ashley could do?
I could see him telling Natalie that Ashley can't be trusted to know that Rob has the HII and not blab -- IF he revealed it, which is a very big if. I feel like Rob is counting on Natalie not being able to do math and figure out that Ashley has no power -- to plant that seed in her brain that justifies blindsiding her friend. Or it's something else that we haven't figured out.
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michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings
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05-08-11, 10:12 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Vidcaps - PIP promo" |
I think what he means is that he and Natalie want to go to the end together with Phillip. They do not know how many people are coming back from RI so, if 2 or 3 return from RI, Ashley could team up with them to eliminate Phillip.
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05-09-11, 10:11 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: Vidcaps - PIP promo" |
Rob should know that one is coming back.
1) Pre-merge example.
2) Simple math. Time remaining in game, players remaining.
3) I seem to remember that Jeff said one would return. The open question was when.
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05-08-11, 09:18 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Vidcaps - PIP promo" |
Tribe. I think the last shot you posted is in the morning after the last TC. We saw the three boys out collecting the wood, Grant's hair do is sticking straight up...
Then we see Grant and Rob, fixing the fire, getting the fire up and going in the AM...Grant's hair is still sticking straight up... 
Note that Ashley is approaching the fire, probably just getting up... Then, a bit later, Natalie is there and Ashley is sitting down, as the boys still tend the fire, get it started in the AM
 Perhaps later, when the others go off to bathe or something, Rob and Nat are the only 2 to stay behind, and they have their conversation..."know that I've got your back. Ashley can't be trusted... 
By the looks of her buff and hair, it cannot be too long after the morning shots when they are getting the fire started...
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michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings
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05-09-11, 05:29 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Vidcaps - 20 seconds Promo" |
If they show Ashley saying that she trusts Natalie that tells me Ashley is indeed going. Rob's quote about the worse happening is like all his other preview quotes: Misdirection that turns out to be meaningless (ie. 32 days of hard work down the drain.)
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05-09-11, 05:50 PM (EST)
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62. "Natalie vs Ashley?" |
Thanks VG! Good observation about Ashley's new confessional.VO: Survivor Finale Week kicks off Wednesday.
VO: With nine castaways fighting for their lives, it's anyone's game to win.
Ashley: (confessional) "I really trust Natalie."
Natalie: "She thinks it's me and her."
Grant: "My word is with you, dude."
Rob: "I'm not getting you out."
Phillip: "Thank you."
Rob: "You have my word."
Rob: "You just have to do what I say."
VO: New Survivor, Wednesday, and the season Finale, Sunday, only CBS. This exchange could very well be setting up the Natalie vs. Ashley story line for this week. Leading up to the IC, Ashley will probably be edited as Rob's choice for the votes at TC. Ashley "really trusts Natalie", but Rob is shown telling Natlie that Ashley can't be trusted. Rob tells Natalie, "You have my word", "you just have to do what I say". Natalie, however, may not like the idea of voting out Ashley over Phillip and question Rob's decision. Grant pushes to split up the two girls and if Ashley wins the IC, Natalie becomes the default target. Natalie may pay the price for questioning Rob's authority and not blindly doing what he says. Rob needs Grant around to win IC's and keep immunity out of the hands of others. He needs Phillip with him at the end to avoid the risk of having to split votes three ways. When the "worst possible thing happens", and Ashley wins immunity, the irony in Natalie's comments may become apparent. Rob is now carrying Amber and the kids on his back and there's no longer room for Natalie...
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-11, 01:25 AM (EST)
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68. "RE: IMHO" |
I would agree with all of that, dabo, except the part where he is telling her that she needs to follow orders to prove herself. I believe that is true, and apparent to the audience, but I don't think he puts it out there like the Godfather.I think his comment is meant to lay some concern of Natalie's to rest. Either he had told her that he has the strategy under control, and she just needs to follow for it to go perfectly, or he is saying it'll be all right, something along those lines, essentially he tells her this is the plan, and you are going to the end, and all you need to do is not worry your pretty little head about it and follow me. Fatherly and authoritative, but not giving orders like The Boss.
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kiki_k 1444 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-11, 01:53 AM (EST)
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69. "RE: IMHO" |
Excellent analysis dabo. I agree -- if Ashley (her BFF) wasn't the boot, there would be no need for this speech by Rob.
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05-10-11, 06:10 AM (EST)
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71. "RE: IMHO" |
Actually, there's a way... if, for example, Ashley won immunity and there were whispers going around that Natalie could be on the block, she might be a little paranoid and this could be Rob's way of reassuring her that she has to let him do his magic.
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05-10-11, 10:09 AM (EST)
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72. "RE: IMHO" |
Could his magic being using the immunity idol without telling Natalie?
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05-11-11, 10:14 AM (EST)
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74. "RE: Episode 13 Vidcaps" |
Hard to tell for sure, but just wanted to mention that I saw a different vidcap of the duel puzzle and it looked more like a visual pattern (vs. words). Still a puzzle, but it might make it a bit easier for Ralph if there's no spelling involved.
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