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"Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Thanks to Survivor Fever for all the work she does for all of us! The vidcaps for episode 9:



































Transcript:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

Probst : Grant!...and Rob are through! Hello!

Probst: Rob cements control of his tribe.

Rob: One, two...

Ometepe Tribe : Ometepe.

Probst: Or does he?

Grant : I'm my own man. I make my own decisions.

Probst: And Phillip gets a makeover.

Jeff Probst : Phillip, did you have a collision with a hawk

Phillip: I asked for a sign and out of thin air appeared this feather.


So, the challenge looks like it will be run in heats. Grant and Rob are through, 1 and 2...Grant needs to start winning these, and he should on this one, imo.

The Ometepe's are united, but then we get a little doubt, misdirection. Grant was probably very upset to see himself get 5 votes. This is a serious wakeup call for him, so game on. In the end, I believe it will be just that....a reaction from the night before confessional. He's his own man when it comes to winning the challenges, but still very much a part of the Ometepe faction. Also, I don't think Grant was wild about voting Matt out again...

Phillip seems like he adjusted well to the merge, his in and back to his animal antics...


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 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Corvis 04-07-11 1
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-07-11 2
       RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread samboohoo 04-07-11 3
       RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread michel 04-09-11 63
           RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 66
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Chillicrab 04-07-11 5
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread samboohoo 04-07-11 4
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread ajglitch 04-07-11 6
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread dabo 04-07-11 7
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread VolcanicGlass 04-07-11 8
       RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread emydi 04-07-11 9
       RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-07-11 11
           RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread VolcanicGlass 04-07-11 12
               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread dabo 04-07-11 13
               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-07-11 14
   Press photos SquidProQuo 04-13-11 116
       RE: Press photos tribephyl 04-13-11 120
       RE: Press photos VolcanicGlass 04-13-11 121
           RE: Press photos Outfrontgirl 04-13-11 123
           RE: Press photos Flowerpower 04-13-11 124
           First Challenge - Meso Soup Flowerpower 04-13-11 125
               RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup rachelOH63 04-13-11 128
                   RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup Flowerpower 04-13-11 129
               RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup dabo 04-13-11 130
                   RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup rachelOH63 04-13-11 132
               RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup parathor 04-13-11 131
                   RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup dabo 04-13-11 133
                   RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup PepeLePew13 04-13-11 134
                       RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup Corvis 04-13-11 135
                           RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup dabo 04-13-11 136
                               RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup Flowerpower 04-13-11 137
                                   RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup rachelOH63 04-13-11 139
                               RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup SquidProQuo 04-13-11 138
                                   RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup Flowerpower 04-13-11 140
                                       RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup Outfrontgirl 04-13-11 143
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread CTgirl 04-07-11 10
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread rachelOH63 04-07-11 15
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Georjanna 04-07-11 16
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread rachelOH63 04-08-11 17
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread tribephyl 04-08-11 18
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Chillicrab 04-08-11 19
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread PepeLePew13 04-08-11 27
   Food Spec dabo 04-08-11 30
       RE: Food Spec Travel_Queen 04-11-11 103
           2nd Immunity Challenge tribephyl 04-11-11 104
               RE: 2nd Immunity Challenge RustytheNail 04-11-11 105
               RE: 2nd Immunity Challenge tribephyl 04-12-11 110
                   RE: 2nd Immunity Challenge Outfrontgirl 04-12-11 111
           RE: Food Spec dabo 04-12-11 109
 Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo VolcanicGlass 04-08-11 20
   RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo VolcanicGlass 04-08-11 21
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Flowerpower 04-08-11 24
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo VolcanicGlass 04-10-11 82
           RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo VolcanicGlass 04-10-11 83
               RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo HitmanPayne 04-10-11 84
           RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Flowerpower 04-10-11 86
               RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo HitmanPayne 04-10-11 87
                   RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo PepeLePew13 04-10-11 88
                       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo VolcanicGlass 04-10-11 93
           RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Rayne 04-13-11 141
   RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Flowerpower 04-08-11 22
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo samboohoo 04-08-11 25
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo suzzee 04-08-11 26
           RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo parathor 04-08-11 28
           RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Flowerpower 04-08-11 35
               RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo SquidProQuo 04-08-11 37
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo VolcanicGlass 04-08-11 36
           RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Flowerpower 04-09-11 59
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Flowerpower 04-08-11 51
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Scarlett O Hara 04-09-11 70
           RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo tribephyl 04-10-11 75
               RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Outfrontgirl 04-10-11 76
                   RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo parathor 04-11-11 99
                       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo rachelOH63 04-11-11 100
               RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo emydi 04-11-11 98
   RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo parathor 04-08-11 23
   RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo PepeLePew13 04-08-11 29
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Flowerpower 04-08-11 32
           RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo PepeLePew13 04-08-11 47
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo SquidProQuo 04-08-11 46
   RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Bebo 04-10-11 81
       Bingo Flowerpower 04-10-11 90
   RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo VolcanicGlass 04-13-11 113
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Flowerpower 04-13-11 126
       RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo Corvis 04-13-11 127
 surprise hype dabo 04-08-11 31
   RE: surprise hype Brownroach 04-08-11 33
       RE: surprise hype Flowerpower 04-08-11 34
           RE: surprise hype Brownroach 04-08-11 40
               RE: surprise hype tribephyl 04-09-11 54
                   Ah! Georjanna 04-09-11 55
                       RE: Ah! Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 58
                   RE: surprise hype rachelOH63 04-09-11 64
       monkeys at work dabo 04-08-11 38
           RE: monkeys at work parathor 04-08-11 39
           RE: monkeys at work Flowerpower 04-08-11 41
               RE: monkeys at work Brownroach 04-08-11 42
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread rachelOH63 04-08-11 43
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread rachelOH63 04-08-11 44
       RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Georjanna 04-08-11 45
           RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread PepeLePew13 04-08-11 48
               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-08-11 49
                   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread rachelOH63 04-09-11 52
                   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread ajglitch 04-12-11 112
               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Georjanna 04-09-11 56
                   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 57
               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Scarlett O Hara 04-09-11 61
               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-09-11 62
                   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread PepeLePew13 04-10-11 78
                       RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-10-11 79
                           RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread PepeLePew13 04-10-11 80
                               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-10-11 85
               Confused samboohoo 04-11-11 96
                   RE: Confused dabo 04-11-11 97
                       RE: Confused Outfrontgirl 04-11-11 101
                           RE: Confused PepeLePew13 04-11-11 102
                   RE: Confused NedraSue 04-13-11 114
                       RE: Confused dabo 04-13-11 115
 Recycled footage CTgirl 04-08-11 50
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 53
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-09-11 60
       RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 65
           RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 67
               ICs where people choose to sit out Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 68
               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 69
               China, Ep 9 Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 71
               Panama Exile Island Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 72
           RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-09-11 73
               RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Outfrontgirl 04-09-11 74
                   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-10-11 77
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread rachelOH63 04-10-11 89
   RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 04-10-11 91
       RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread Outfrontgirl 04-10-11 92
 5 second promo CTgirl 04-10-11 94
   RE: 5 second promo dabo 04-11-11 95
 Here's a preview clip of the 2nd ch... SquidProQuo 04-11-11 106
   RE: Here's a preview clip of the 2n... SquidProQuo 04-11-11 107
       RE: Here's a preview clip of the 2n... tribephyl 04-12-11 108
 Request dabo 04-13-11 117
   RE: Request SquidProQuo 04-13-11 118
       RE: Request dabo 04-13-11 119
   RE: Request Outfrontgirl 04-13-11 122
   RE: Request Brownroach 04-13-11 142
 RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread HitmanPayne 04-13-11 144

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04-07-11, 09:15 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
From the EW interview with Jeff:

Next week is one of my favorite dilemmas: Immunity or food? I’m always fascinated by the people who choose to pass up the opportunity for immunity simply so they can have a slice of pizza or a cheeseburger. But we’ve never done this challenge without somebody taking the food. Take a guess who is eating next week?

I don't see how that challenge we're seeing is the type where you can take food instead of competing? That usually shows up in an endurance challenge. Could the vidcaps we have be a RC? There won't be a duel...

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2. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"

Thanks for posting, Corvis! I remember the one in Tocantins where Tyson won it, and was pissed that everyone in his tribe opted to eat...I recall it was a kind of horseshoes challenge....where they had to hit the ball or horseshoe in the target circle, perhaps?

Take a guess who is eating next week? I'll bet that Phillip is eating, but I'd bet that the spa girls and Rob/Grant are both competing....we see Grant and Rob. My money will be on Grant or Mike to win this one.

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3. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
The 5 Zaps should not be eating. They are on the short side of the numbers with no idol to play.


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63. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
The spa girls? Really? I see them being very comfortable, even laughing at TC.
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66. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
I agree that the spa girls are prime candidates to drop out, but it will be from a different challenge, not the one we have caps of.

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5. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Is it really going to be a Immunity or Food challenge?
Agree that it is difficult to see how staged challenges can have this worked into it. So you might be right that it might be a RC. Always good to show inner alliances with Rewards that require you to pick 1 or 2 to join you. Winner and his allies will be damned by the rest if he/she pick his/her allies, damned by his/her allies of he/she don't. More so for the dominant tribe, allows for a shake up that can avert the dull pagangoing of one side.

Wish they will do something like the in some of the previous seasons where those who sat out for the challenge could eat as long as the immunity challenge was on and had to stop eating the moment the challenge end. So a challenge for immunity and a concurrent bulimia challenge.
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4. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
We see the Zaps eating here at camp. My guess is that none of them chooses to eat at the challenge. IMO, all Zaps are playing for immunity.

Interesting sign of Grant talking to the Zaps. Yes, they all voted for him, but right now he sits on the plus side of the 6-5 numbers advantage. Even without immunity, he should be safe. Even if the Zaps all vote Grant again, he should be safe. The Omes should vote out a Zap this week in order to keep the numbers advantage. At some point, you would think they want to get Rob out, but this is not the time. I would suspect the Omes would want to send a strong Zap to RI to hopefully take out Matt.

My initial thoughts lean toward Rooster, Mike or David as possible targets.


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6. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Looks like a typical misdirect to point to Grant flipping. Is it me or is the shirt in the group picture not repaired with a knot as it is on the confessional picture? Same shoulder but not seeing the knot in the group photo.

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7. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"

starting block, digging, breaking, moving on.

all at start, Probst hand up; narrows to only two stations for most of run.

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9. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Thanks VG looks like 11 to 6 then 6 to 3 in finals
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11. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 04-07-11 AT 03:20 PM (EST)

Thanks so much, VG for the blow up! Jeff teased that it would be immunity or food this week, and guess who would be sitting out, as Corvis noted. But I count them all here and accounted for in this pic, and Jiffy has his arm up to start them.

I'm thinking since there is no RI duel this week, perhaps we are going to see individual reward and an individual immunity. And, lest we forget, there HAS to be a double boot here!!!

That would also explain the Grant and the Zap picture eating rice together...if Rob wins reward and chooses to take the spa girls and Phillip with him. He'll leave his most trusted ally back at with the Zaps. The one they all just voted for...

ETA: The challenge that we see in the preview promo is the REWARD CHALLENGE!

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12. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Hi FP -

The tile challenge is definitely IC. Note that Natalie is wearing the IN in the pre-challenge line-up. You can also see the Immunity Necklace stand right behind Probst in the O/H shot.


crocophile at MeSS suggests two separate ICs. That would be consistant with the evidence we have so far, and Probst's statement that there would be an immunity vs. food dilemma.

FWIW, Andrea, Ashley and probably Natalie are inside the shelter as Grant moves over to eat rice with the Zapateras, so they are not away at the time. The person whose face we don't see (presumably Natalie) is holding a small rod. Not really clear what it is, but it could be the treemail accessory for the challenge.


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13. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Many thanks, VG! I can see the challenge course a lot better now, Jeff puts himself in the line of fire.

Two ICs in the upcoming episode would make sense. With a jury of 7 they can't eliminate all the pre-jurors by the start of episode 10 and start the "bring in the jury" (or rather "occupant of RI who may or may not end up on the jury") at the ep 10 TC.

Two ICs suggests two TCs. They could have a duel in-between or a triple duel to start ep 10. The duel in-between makes more sense but they might not have wanted to fit 2 ICs and 2 Tribals and a duel into one episode.

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14. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 04-07-11 AT 07:26 PM (EST)

Thanks so much for straightening me out, VG! Your vidcaps with labels are AMAZING! Great eyes, as always...

So, Croc is right then. This IC has everyone participating. Nat has the IN, and you can clearly see the IN stand next to Jeff, as you point out. There will be another IC that involves immunity OR food. We know that some will opt for the food, rather than going for the Immunity.

Regarding the challenge that we have the vidcaps for...they start out with all 11. Have to dig the mallet up to break the tile. First six to break their tiles will advance to the next section.

Looks like the 6 will be wittled down to 3. Then the three compete for one winner. Can anyone tell what those stands are at the end of the challenge?

Thanks so much, VG!

ETA: Not that anyone would be surprised by this observation, but Phillip is still digging when Rob breaks his tile, see Phillip in the lower left of this frame....

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04-13-11, 01:22 AM (EST)
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116. "Press photos"
Press photos, thanks to Survivor Fever:


Is this David after 1st IC? (same headband, clothes) Doesn't seem happy.












These 2 shots appear to be the 6 who make it to Phase 2 of the 1st IC. So we know who we can rule out for winning IC and Rob is definitely in contention.

Photo caption said 1st IC is called Meso Soup. Note purple cup in foreground -- so do they have to throw ping pong balls or something into cup? Doesn't seem to be a puzzle.


Happy Rob...after winning IC???

Julie's hair, etc. are wet here. Could this be after losing 2nd IC/endurance? Clearly back in camp but could be immediately following. (Then again, could be after swimming or something unrelated.)

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120. "RE: Press photos"
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These are pretty telling...


But even more interesting is that very little attention is paid to Mike or Steve.

ETA: timestamps have Julie on Day 5 of 7
while both David and Ralph are Day 6 of 7 (Meaning both of these guys live through the 1st TC)
IC1 is Day 5
IC2 is Day 7

From Day 7:


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121. "RE: Press photos"
Correct order:

Day One

Day Two

Day Three

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123. "RE: Press photos"
Perfect ...
First IC, day one, most likely involves a reward and an idol clue.
First TC will be day 2. Ome's are hogging all the chairs in camp. Zaps look worried.

Second IC and TC will be Day 3.
All we know is that Andrea, Grant, Phillip, Rob were safe in TC#1, and presumably Ashley and Natalie. So we pretty much know that a Zap went home on Day Two as we all expected.

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124. "RE: Press photos"
VG, Squid and Tribe, thanks SO much for posting. I was beginning to think that CBS had done away with the press images...So, on day 3 we have NO pictures of a Zap anywhere, but 2 of Phillip, 2 of Andrea, 1 of Grant, 1 of Rob.

On day 2, the Zaps do NOT look happy at all. I was thinking, if anyone beat Rob at puzzles that it would be David. But, I may be holding firm now with the Boston Rob win, as David does not look like he's in the clear for the evening.

So, one of Julie, Rooster, Mike, Rob, Grant, or David wins the IC. If David looks miserable, can we rule him out? We can rule Rooster out from the TC shot as well. WE can't see Julie, but she looks miserable as well. So, we are down to Mike, Rob, Grant.

Interesting if Grant, Rob, and David would go on a reward of some kind. Very interesting. This game is individual immunity, so I don't see how the "team" could hold you back if you won your portion? What are the bowls doing there? Do they have to eat something? Jeff had noted earlier that there were no gross food challenges this year...?

I have noted in the past that they do take press photos of the bootee...but this week, they can't take any of the Zaps on Day 3, because it would give it away. Phillip still qualifies for this...?

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125. "First Challenge - Meso Soup"
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Okay, trying to figure out this challenge...

Here is the overall aerial view...

We see they are lined up, with the squares marked off for digging up the baton to break the tile. Winners who advance are: Julie, Mike, Rooster and David, Grant, Rob.

Next heat:

From the over head shot, in combination with the shot above, we can see that there are 3 tanks of WATER...you can see right through the water tank. Then in the next picture...(ETA: Actually, there are not three tanks placed together....you can see that there is a wood divider on the top of the tank, that divides 1 tank into 3 entries, but note that the divider is only on the top, so they must dip their heads into one large communal tank....)

You can see David, Grant, and Robs Water tank (each player has their own water tank, btw, we can see that they are divided into 3 tanks together), in the foreground you can see the bowl to catch the water. So, on Jiffy's go, they have to run to their own water tank, dunk their head in and grab a mouth full of water, then run to the bowl that is placed so many feet beyond, spit their water into the bowl, first three to get so much water up to the full line wins, and moves beyond to the next portion.

So, are they competing as teams with the three and three, OR, are they still individual, but grouped this way. Once they pass the tanks, they just have to run from the distal side of the tank to the spitoon, so there is no disadvantage to any of the positions. Having them grouped this way, does make me think that it's a team that must win to advance.

More than likely Rob's team wins, then Rob/David/Grant compete at the last portion, which does look to be a spatial puzzle...


ETA:

Thanks to VG that identified this picture of Julie was on Day 1, could this be her with her wet head after she returns from the challenge...? Definitely doesn't look like she won...


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128. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
Good Job!

I am LIKING Mike!! And I am NOT just talking about his Survivor chances!! ;) ;)

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129. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
Yes, Rachel, with all 6 spittoons there it appears that this challenge is not "teams". First three to fill their spittoon, will advance. I think this will favor either those with a giant mouth, OR, the fast scramblers. More than likely Rob, Grant, and MIke will advance.

Then, no offense to Grant, but I think it would favor Mike or Rob for the last spatial puzzle....Mike could indeed pull it out, imo.

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130. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
The middle players in the threes, Mike and Grant, are at a disadvantage if they have to run around the trough. No matter which way they go they have to run around more trough and another player perhaps. That would be for the first mouthful at any rate, continuing only if they have to return to the same positions at the trough for every mouthful.

This scenario makes for six stooges stumbling through a series of sight gags, so thumbs up.

If, on the other hand, they have to spit over the troughs, keeping their places throughout, well it's a guy thing and a girl stooge isn't used to standing but guys aren't well known for aim anyway.

This could be some seriously funny TV. Stooge stuff, the women won't get it.

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132. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
Yeah ~ I know it well! ~ Live with 4 boys ~ Complain about this often! ;)
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131. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
>So, are they competing as teams
>with the three and three,
>OR, are they still individual,
>but grouped this way.

I don't think it's teams, due to the 6 spittoons in the center-left of this image (blue/red/yellow, purple/green/orange)

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133. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
Oh, those are the spittoons. Some major distance spitting is unlikely then. Too bad, that would be even funnier.
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134. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
So... how do they make it fair for the two guys that seem to be in the middle in the water tank lineup (Mike and Grant) if it appears they have to go around the tank to get to the spittoons?
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135. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
Randomly selected spots that you don't have stick with when you go back each time?
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All go around the tank at start. Dunk, swallow, about face, run, spit, about face, run, repeat.

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137. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
On Jiffy's go, they all have to run around the tanks at the start, then they stick to their assigned positions and will not have to go around anymore tanks...they will just go from the distal side of the tank to the spittoon and back again. No disadvantage to any of the spots.

Regarding the winner, LOL, I just saw CTGirls number 10 post below, and thought she could have figured out this challenge on day 1! Ha.

Now, I am trying to zoom in on Mike at the TC just to rule out an IN on him...here is what I have...


Looks like I'm not able to blow them up, but I do not see anything on the side of Mike's neck...

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139. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
Julie is in post #20 preview. I've thought she's a goner since then. And, if there is a HII and/or a Zap wins IN, Omes could vote for Julie and, I would think, they would think they'd be safe with that vote.
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138. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
Thus the Meso Soup challenge name! Should be fun to watch and explains the sad/wet Julie shot. Have we figured out the last heat yet? Is that a puzzle as spec'd? I think Ralph will do well on the spittoon part but not if there's a puzzle at the end.

Also, here is one more interesting vidcap that was on CBS Press Express late last night but SF didn't have it up yet -- they just posted it today:

So is this Mike doing some last minute scrambling? Would love to know the time stamp on this one. Judging by the other smoke/campfire shots, it could be Day 2, but then again they have the fire going every day.

So in terms of timing, the 1st IC is Day 1. Do we think the TC is later that night....or not until the night of Day 2 to allow for more scrambling? (I'm guessing the 2nd IC and TC are both on Day 3, right?) Would love to know the time stamp on Mike's last appearance in these press photos. Also, I think I see Steve's face in the lower right corner of the "sad David" shot. Looks like he is laying in the shelter in the background.

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140. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-13-11 AT 02:41 PM (EST)


Kona, at Sucks, MessHall, says that this one is from day one...

Compare to camp the next day...day 2

Is that Mike's shirt on the clothesline? This is day 2, probably before the TC that will come at night. Could be Rob's shirt, too?

Just thought I'd add what Kona said at Mess...On Day 1 of the cycle...

10:41 AM

10:54 AM

10:55 AM

1:44 PM

2:26 PM

So, more than likely the reward is going out to lunch somewhere?

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143. "RE: First Challenge - Meso Soup"
The shot in camp is approximately three hours later than the end of the challenge. Would that allow time for the lunch? It can't be a big away reward that takes off from the challenge for the whole afternoon, because 4 of the 6 finalists are in camp at 2:30.

They could do a reward on Day 2.
Yes that is Mike's shirt on the line on day 2. Day 2 may be a down day for challenges if they do laundry?

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10. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
My guess is that with all the hype on Rob and Grant in the preview that Mike wins the challenge and throws a monkey wrench in Ometepe's boot order.
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15. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Challenge - 11 people down to 6. Would the 6 play as 2 teams of 3? It looks like those tables are so close together to be 6 separate places. I wonder if they run from the black line, passed the tables, to what i see as cowboy hats sitting on posts (okay, maybe they aren't cowboy hats, and are bags of puzzle pieces instead!!)... Then, grab the puzzle bag and get back to the tables to complete the puzzle.

Can't tell at all what the final 3 people will be doing. Just looks like a big gift box to me!! Maybe I need my eyes checked!?!?

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16. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Can anyone tell what is on the bench/table just behind and to Jeff's right in this cap?

Because I thought that if they are baskets/plates of food, then one or more of them might be offered at each stage of the Challenge to induce players to drop out ... ?

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I was wondering that too, but then decided it was just everybody's stuff (that they brought with them to the challenge)... But then again, you wouldn't think they'd leave everybody's stuff out in plain sight....??

ETA - Final 3 part of challenge - You know how they use "classic" puzzles (like the 3x3 cube used at R.I. this year - which has been used before I believe)? Could this be the "classic" pyramid puzzle, which would just be built upon a base shaped like the bottom of a pyramid? The stuff on top are all the puzzle pieces in separate bags they have to untie...?? Just an idea...

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18. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Can anyone tell what is on the bench/table just behind and to Jeff's right in this cap?

I was wondering that too but then thought well it's probably just everyone's things.

But after thinking about it...
1. Longshots are typically performed by dreamteamers.
2. There is no need for dreamteamers to have belongings brought to the challenge.
3. Wait-a-sec. This really could be the food used as anti-participatory lures.

However, we've never had food already on display at the challenge.
Usually Jeff will duck behind some greenery and come back with something.
And the items on the bench look colorful and distinctly cover-less.

Is it possible that no one opts for food?

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19. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"

Don't think this is a shot of the dreamteamers.

From the bottom up looks like,
Rob in his black singlet and long pants
Philip in his sleaveless shirt,
?Grant
David
? someone bending
Ralph
?
Bikini girl ? Ashley ? Andrea
Topless Man?
Julie?
Natalie

The final 3 looks like the assembling the cone/pyramid they had in Gabon.

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27. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
>Can anyone tell what is on
>the bench/table just behind and
>to Jeff's right in this cap?

Couldn't they just be rewards for the winner(s) to take with them?

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30. "Food Spec"
How it might work in an IC with stages.

Everyone in each stage has to complete that stage even after they are numerically eliminated from the challenge. The losers have a finish order. Winners are given a choice, compete in next stage or bow out for food, losers move up to back in the challenge. After all decisions are made bow-outs and remaining losers get food while the competition continues into the next stage. Repeat for each stage. Possibly at one stage the choice is made more difficult with no more food option past this point.

Each stage has to have so many in competition, so not everyone gets to make a decision, last loser in line at each stage is pretty much stuck as a loser or having to continue in competition.

Yeah, it's a bit complicated, but they could make it work. It would require a lot of time and some serious editing to play well on TV.

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103. "RE: Food Spec"
I can't watch this video in Canada..but it's supposed to be the food challenge
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=IPT8ut3GIWSKCDQkaNhC1vIaOfyKjoFI

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104. "2nd Immunity Challenge"







The winner of the dreamteam challengers...
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105. "RE: 2nd Immunity Challenge"
I can see why shaky shaky Phillip would choose to sit this one out.
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110. "RE: 2nd Immunity Challenge"

With 10 survivors for the second IC, these dreamteamers ran it with 2 sitting out and 8 on the contraption.
Wonder if that follows what ACTUALLY happens.
Of those, 6 were male and 4 were female. Meaning that we will lose a male at the first TC. (Like duh.)
Even more intriguing, they have 1 male and 1 female as representative of those whom sat out. Wonder who those are?
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111. "RE: 2nd Immunity Challenge"
>>> Wonder if that follows what ACTUALLY happens.
Of those, 6 were male and 4 were female. Meaning that we will lose a male at the first TC. (Like duh.)
Even more intriguing, they have 1 male and 1 female as representative of those whom sat out. Wonder who those are?

This was certainly rehearsed before the prior TC, so they don't know who is competing, much less who sits out. They don't film these after the show films so as to give viewers previews. These sneak peaks are videos of the final dress run through for the challenge, and they do it in advance so that they can tweak the challenges.

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109. "RE: Food Spec"
Gang Hang. Fairly simple concept. Using your legs and/or arms, hang under the monkey bars as long as possible, fall into pool when you are finished, whoever hangs on longest wins immunity. No mention of food sitouts or temptations (but there was a table near the pool).

If Ometepe is up 5 to 4 over Zapatera (plenty of targets no matter who wins) why would any of them opt to hang if they can have food for sitting out?

1. Pride of participation, don't throw a challenge.
2. Idol paranoia.
3. Shakey position in own tribe.

Ashley, Grant, Natalie and Phillip might fit 1, which isn't much of a reason to pass up food. Rob would fit 1 and 2, with great leadership comes great paranoia. Andrea might fit 1 and 3. (Phillip should fit 3 as well but his thinking is erratic.) If Jeff pulls the old make a pick quick without giving leader Rob a chance to speak, Rob won't have influence.

None of the Zapatera should realistically beg off unless he or she just concludes it is not possible to win. Steve and David probably try but can't compete.

If Mike is there he is a likely winner. Otherwise, if Grant sits out I think this is between Rob, Andrea, Rooster and Julie.

Without food temptations all participate, Grant and Natalie have a good chance, Ashley won't care.

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20. "Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
VO: Matt fought his way off Redemption Island, only to be blindsided by Boston Rob...
Matt: "I feel like a moron."
VO: ... and get sent back again.
Dave: "This was like a hit straight out of a mob movie."
















VO: Now, the island Godfather...
Rob: "It's my game. I'm in charge."
VO: ... is pulling all the strings.
Julie: "There's no breaking their loyal shield."
VO: But even a mob boss is afraid of something.
Rob: VO: Will two Tribal Councils ...
Phillip: "I've got to make something happen."
VO: ... end his reign?
Rob: "You have to gamble."
VO: New Survivor, CBS Wednesday.




















































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21. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
We will need to wait for the promos to air, but for now...

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24. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
VG, I cannot tell you how much we appreciate all of these blow-ups that you do, and the great job with clarifying the vidcaps, it's amazing, and so helpful to all of us. Once again, I think you have unlocked the mystery here...

Here is a pic of Natalie wearing the IN:

and compare the IN with the top TC pic here...

It sure looks like RALPH is not wearing one, but it sure looks like ROB IS wearing one...

Rob wins the IC.


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82. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
A (slightly) clearer version of the Tribal Council shot aired. The vidcap of the TC comparison has been updated.

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83. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Forgot to add... note Phillip wearing his feather, FWIW.
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84. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
I had a feeling that might've been Phillip. I didn't think it would look like he was wearing a wifebeater.
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86. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Thank goodness, VG! I have been fixated on this TC shot, and you have cleared it all up. I, initially did think that it was Rob, but then thought it was Phillip, with his collared shirt on. Thank you. Way to go everyone that thought it was Rob, and held firm...thanks Pepe!

To me it looks suspicious where Rob's necklace is. He has something there that is alot thicker than his gold chain, and I do believe there is a little smudge there. I do believe that something has been photoshopped, no? I would "gamble" that Rob has indeed won the IN.

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87. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
After looking at it closer, doesn't it seem like there's something VERY shiny around Andrea's neck? Looks like Andrea could've won it.
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88. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
I took a stab at it by blowing it up. Verdict: Inconclusive as there are several shiny things in that picture, probably due to a tweaking of the original picture (VG's or someone else) by adding brightness and enhancing the sharpness filter. I can't see anything unusual around Andrea's neck that several others don't also have.
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93. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Unfortunately, that Tribal Council sequence is just bad quality. There is an added special effect over it which makes the image look a bit foggy. I upped the contrast, but it's just not all that great of a starting point.

FWIW, if you look at the video, you can see that Rob's medallion swings as he sits down.

For comparison in similar lighting conditions, here are a couple of TC shots from last episode, one from the same general angle as the Web Promo sequence, the other a close-up of the upper part of the necklace as worn by Natalie.


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141. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
I think Mike wins immunity. If you look at the TC pic from last episode his bag is over his left shoulder as he walks into TC. He does not have a bag on his left shoulder in the TC pic for this episode. Most people carry their bag on the same shoulder. If he did not have immunity I can't see him not taking his stuff to TC.
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Just watched VG's video of the promo...the Voiceover is a little different...

It should read:


VO: Now, the island Godfather...
Rob: "It's my game. I'm in charge."
VO: ... is pulling all the strings.
Julie: "There's no breaking their loyal shield."
VO: But even a mob boss is afraid of something.
Rob: I can't shake this idol paranoia (as Phillip is seen with the shovel and Mike/David are seen digging - are they all scurrying trying to find a new idol?)


Rob: It might cost me my survivor life

VO: Will two Tribal Councils ...
Phillip: "I've got to make something happen."
VO: ... end his reign?
Rob: "You have to gamble."
VO: New Survivor, CBS Wednesday.

ETA: What is Mike opening here? Is he finding the HII here??? Sure looks like he's found it and untying the bag...



ETA:

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25. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
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Nevermind.


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26. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Three cheers for FP for bringing those over, you rock!


Looks like the idol is biting Rob and Phillip but further up Phillips arm. The superimposed snake might be covering something up that Rob has too.

What ever Mike has it doesn't look like a snake pendant, would they give an idol that must be used at either one of the double TC's?


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28. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Could they be so bold as to create a fake immunity necklace? That'd be awesome if it kept the Zaps from searching for the REAL necklace, but if Rob is just messing with them for the sake of humor, then that's just cruel.

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35. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
The necklace is most likely in a draw string pouch. I think the pouch could be hidden in Mike's palm. But, I do believe he's found the HII. I think that Phillip and Rob are going to come up empty, as Mike and David already have found it.
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37. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Super busy at work so just skimming quickly and not keeping up with things...but if Mike finds an HII, that would tie in w/this week's clue about "digging deep" to stay in the game.

Apologize if someone else has already mentioned this.

P.S. Wasn't sure if they'd rehide Ralph's HII and have 2 in play but I guess so. Kudos to Mike if he finds it. He certainly has been trying to scramble and do what he can -- gotta give him props for that.

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36. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
My apologies for screwing up the transcript.
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59. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
VG, are you kidding? You couldn't screw up anything if you tried! With all of the work that you do, we are just so thrilled to have you among us! Your observations and detection work is amazing! Thanks!

Looks like I'm the one that went a little crazy with vidcap interpretation this week...but, I suppose I'd rather keep trying than to just take them at face value. Sometimes we nail it, and sometimes we don't!

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51. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
I have been corrected....while the vidcaps talk about "idol" paranoia and could be the end of his Survivor life, and we see the vidcaps of them digging at the flag. Which is posted above. BUT, then we see Mike finding something, which I though was the hidden idol in a pouch. After all, if they were to find it, then it would create paranoia regarding who to send their vote to. But, alas, they have proved me wrong at Mess Hall. Someone noted over there, that there is a buried baton that they use to break the tile with in the first leg of the challenge. I mistook the baton that Mike dug up, as the flag pole at the beach, that we see he and David digging under.

So, this is a wrong assumption. There is no draw string pouch with the HII in it. So, if there are no more clues, then the Survivors are just going crazy looking for one for naught. If so, then the Ometepe's can pick off whomever they want. So, why would Rob state in the promo that "his survivor life could be over", and "I'll have to gamble"? They know that the idol was flushed last week, so what's the paranoia and gambling over?

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70. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
It appears as if both pairs (Rob + Phillip and Mike + David) are digging in the same exact area. It appears to me that there is also someone observing Rob and Phillip digging. It also looks like it is brighter outside while Rob and Phillip are digging and darker when Mike and David are digging.

From this, I would assume that it might have been morning when Rob and Phillip were digging and later in the day when the other two were digging. If Rob and David were there first, could they have found the HII and then planted a fake for the later pair to find?

I'm not convinced that Mike has the HII as that pouch looks awfully small to me.


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75. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
The observers are David and Mike.
While Rob and Phillip are digging they are watching.

Digging for an idol underneath of the tribe flag seems...well kinda dumb. If it's there I would be astounded.
Jeff did an awful lot of assuring that the clues would be harder to decipher and all. Just doesn't ring true for me.

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76. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
One of the girls is watching too. (At least one.) Andrea?

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99. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Two girls at least (foreground/background):

Plus a sand-covered Mike (foreground) and David (background)

It also looks like they're either digging at different times or different spots (dark sand = cold sand = morning?)... or maybe just a trick of the lighting?

So do David & Mike start digging, and then get jumped by everyone else? Thus, what causes someone (Rob?) to form a buddy-system to keep the Zapateras in sight at all times?

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100. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
I'm being difficult this week ~ but I feel like this is going to be nothing more than making the flag and putting it up...
Partly because, if I was Mike, I wouldn't be just standing there, watching Rob & Philip digging....
I also think Philip is falling down due to dehydration or something... 3 screencaps of him have him in an odd stance...
I'm probably totally wrong...but just want to put it out there...
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98. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
In Fan v. Fav, didn't Amanda find the best played HII ever imho right by the team flag?
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For what little it's worth, both Julie and Rob have flames around them in the second set of full promos while David has flames in the first set.

Also, this is the first time that I'm aware of that we've seen Andrea sitting so close to Rob, at least promo-wise:


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32. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Pepe, glad you noticed that. I have noticed as well. Looks like Andrea is weaseling her way into and becoming Rob's right-hand girl...

Note where she is in their circle, as well...

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47. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Yep, and I'm also noticing that while Natalie continues to be shown around Rob (as in the picture in my post above and also when he hugged her after her IC win last episode, for example), Ashley seems to have vanished when it comes to Ometepe dynamics. This does not look good for her late-game prospects, while Natalie still seems to have some legs.
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46. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Good points, Pepe. What also catches my eye here is the "Pulling Strings" header with the 2 girls sitting on each side of Rob. And if you watch the actual clip, Natalie pulls a string of Rob's hair...hmmm.

There's also the snake superimposed over Rob and Phillip. (Lots of snake imagery this past episode with Rob, Andrea and Phillip.) Plus the totally "over the top" Godfather music and persona. I love Rob and realize CBS is trying to create some doubt around his chances, but this seems way over the top -- like what they'd do for a character like Russell or Phillip. Doesn't seem good for Rob's edit.

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81. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
We're only shown one challenge. Why? Because showing the second one would give too much away, because we'd be able to see at least some of the folks who aren't voted out in the first one. I also think it could be to hide who doesn't compete.

This is where I think the Immunity vs. Food question comes in. After the first IC, Jeff tells them all that there will be a second IC because there will be two tribal councils. However, they have a choice whether they are competing in the second tribal council, and if they choose not to, they get to eat.

I think the first TC will be a fairly routine targeting of a Zap. The second one could give Rob an interesting opportunity to gamble. With a 6-4 advantage, is it finally time to get rid of wild card Philip? It would explain why Philip and his feather are featured so prominently in the pics (it's not much more bizarre than his other stuff, why feature it?), and explain Rob's gamble. His idol paranoia fits, since Philip was obviously not pleased not to be clued in on the clue right away.

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90. "Bingo"
Great 2 cents there, Beebs! Nice to see you, and you are spot on as always. Good thinking with the hidden IC, would indeed give too much away. I like it! Also, I have been thinking Phillip as well. He was practically hidden in confessionals last week, and his only one was to note that he went through a "I'm the red-headed step child" phase, but now he recognizes that he's learned alot from Rob. He's content to stick with the Ometepe's. Seems like his story revolved around going head to head with Rob, but now that that conflict appears resolved...
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113. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
The Full Promo finally aired.

For those still trying to decide whether or not Rob's IN might have been removed in the TC sequence, perhaps these clearer caps will help some to decide one way or the other. The best point of comparison is the closest part of the shoulder to the neck.

Of note, it is very rare for the aired version of the promo to differ from the web version, but this week there were two alterations: an added graphic over the "Island Godfather" caption and the removal of the picture of the Hidden Immunity Idol from the digging sequence.

Also, just thought those who have been around since the beginning might get a kick out of this comparison.

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126. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Wow, VG, you are amazing, as always! Thanks for these notes, and I love the blast from the past. Rob is really coming full CIRCLE. Has to do with "pulling strings". But, could this be an ominous sign for Robfadda? I say it indeed could, because we all know what happened to the Godfather...he lost his survivor life. Might Rob be heading for RI soon? Back to this week...is he going to do a mob hit, or will someone do a mob hit on him?

We know, one way or the other that he survives the first TC. If Mike is the first boot, then we know that the digging with David could be when Rob is off on reward, perhaps? So after the first TC the numbers are: 6 Omes, 4 Zaps. So, when does Rob's "idol paranoia" come in....most likely before the first TC? When they are seen digging?

If Rob really doesn't know if they found an idol or not, he could bluff and vote out the weak link...Steve, someone that Matt told them would not get the idol. If Steve is voted out at the first TC, could Mike survive and win the 2nd IC...possibly. Who would they vote out then, if let's say the Zaps could have an idol, and an IN. This game could get tricky...food for thought...

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127. "RE: Vidcaps - Full (Web) Promo"
Love the blast from the past, VG. Thanks!
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31. "surprise hype"
They do parse their words finely on some of this hype. The surprise probably works like...

Day x: IC and Tribal
Day x+1: surprise, no duel, IC2 and Tribal2

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I don't think there will be TC's on different days. The teaser is worded:

THE CASTAWAYS FACE A SURPRISE DOUBLE TRIBAL COUNCIL THAT SENDS TWO PEOPLE TO REDEMPTION ISLAND

"A", "council" and "sends", all singular forms, should mean this is a single event, or it occurs as successive parts of a single event.

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34. "RE: surprise hype"
I agree with Brownroach. They could have an IC on one day, and possibly have another IC on the next day, or the third day in the cycle. Then, go to TC on the third night that will be just as any other, and end just as any other, with 1 going to RI. Then, start up again, immediately after the person voted out leaves....start with reactions and etc, then lead to a vote, and reading of the vote, torch snuffed, to RI.

I think that the TC will be two held back to back, or as noted above, it occurs as successive parts of a single event.


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40. "RE: surprise hype"
LAST EDITED ON 04-08-11 AT 04:29 PM (EST)

I don't think there will be two separate IC's. How would the two immunities work?

A) Both challenge winners could be immune for both votes. But I don't think they would grant anyone, much less two people, a second immunity for winning only a single challenge.

B) The winner of the first challenge could be immune for the first vote only, and the winner of the second challenge immune for the second vote only. But then the second immunity holder could get voted out in the first vote. And if that happened no one would have immunity for the second vote. So that scenario makes no sense whatsoever.

What would make the most sense to me is that there is only one challenge and one immunity winner. Then, at TC, there is a single voting round where everyone has to vote for two people. The two with the most votes are out, with the usual hii rules in effect. *note -- there is a sort-of precedent for doing it this way: in Pearl Islands the Outcasts each had to cast two votes at the TC that sent two of them back to the game.

My only problem with the above scenario is that they are using the term "Double Trouble Council", which does seem to suggest two separate rounds of voting. But I can't think of another way they could do it.

ETA: Well the cap Dabo posted below seems to show that there WILL be two separate tribal councils taking place, which means two separate votes. So I still have no idea how they'll work the challenge(s).

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54. "RE: surprise hype"
I don't think there will be two separate IC's. How would the two immunities work?

Here's how I see it.
They will have two ICs and two TCs.
The first IC will take place on the beach.
Someone wins.
They go to TC. The first person is voted out.
They remain seated and the 2nd IC takes place there.
But first, JP will offer food to sit out for this challenge.
The remaining survivors will be given trivia questions.
The winner is determined, the others must stop eating and return to the stools and the 2nd person is voted out.

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55. "Ah!"
Wise one ...


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58. "RE: Ah!"
It would be interesting, but I'm still voting for the scenario in my post at the bottom (#53).

I don't think they want so much of the broadcast to be at TC.
Keep in mind that a "surprise" to the survivor's can be as simple as a change in their expected routine with back to back TC days.

The first is more likely to be a two day cycle that includes a reward for some, unless they pull the old go on reward and proceed straight to tribal with no time to scramble trick.

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64. "RE: surprise hype"
This is exactly how I see it happening too.
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38. "monkeys at work"

Which monkey is telling the truth?

The players don't think in terms of episode by episode, not their concern how SEG/CBS is going to air it. But they do get used to some things. Sending two away in one tribal would be a surprise. Sending one away in one Tribal, to repopulate RI to duel status, then not having a duel to attend but going straight into another IC and then another Tribal to send a third to RI, that would be as much a surprise to the players.

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39. "RE: monkeys at work"
So we've got:
- Rob clearly wearing the necklace
- Phillip continuing to wear the feather
- 9 players shown? Not sure on Steve/Julie/Grant placement?
- 11 seats? Do seats matter? I can't remember if they leave empty seats sometimes or not... if they don't, then this would likely be the first tribal council (even though a couple of people are missing, presumably hiding behind the column?)
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I think they are just not all visible in the TC area as they are lining in and taking a seat. Clearly, the promo and the misdirection state there will be 2 tribal councils. So, I do not believe that they will try to have a combined TC where they have to vote for 2 people at the same vote. I really think it means there will be one TC that ends in a vote and one going to RI. Then immediately, they will start with the second one, right where the first one left. I think there will be new discussion, a new vote, a new chance to play an HII, and a new boot.

I think that there will be 2 IC's because, Jiffy teased that there will be a challenge with Immunity vs. food offered. And, with the challenge that I see, I don't see where the food is, AND, I see everyone participating. Jeff said that someone will choose the food.

You may be right, though, there could be food involved in the challenge shots that we see at some phase. I don't know. I think Rob wins immunity and I think it will most likely be good for the entire night...Jiffy would tease, immunity back up for grabs and it will keep you safe at not one, but TWO tribal councils...blah, blah...

Another thought that supports 2 IC's is that without a duel, they will have the time to show 2 challenges. If there are 2 IN's then I think both players would be immune all night, through both TC's.


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42. "RE: monkeys at work"
I just argued up above that they wouldn't give a player two immunities for winning one challenge. It seems unfair to me. But of course this show is not about being fair.

Still can't quite see how they'll handle two challenges BOTH coming before the double TC.

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43. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
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Could that just be Rob's buff around his neck? Bad eyes, once again...I'll have to put the magnifying glass up against the monitor!! ;)

ETA - I feel like I see the shape of the IN on Andrea (second from right in front row) more than on Rob....

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44. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
One more post about Rob at TC: I'm going to go back to all past episodes and see if he had on his black shirt and a blonde with her hair up in a bun was sitting in front of him to his left (right on screen). In post #20 by VG, there are pictures of him at TC I think, with Blonde with bun, just like in the EP 9 TC picture. He doesn't have an IN on there....
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45. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Rachel,

Perhaps it's just that both of us have bad eyes, but I agree that Rob's neckwear in the Episode 9 Tribal Council cap looks much more like buff than necklace.

And, I also see a blonde with a bun in front of Rob in the picture. But, the only blonde with a bun this Season has been ... Matt.

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There's more than just Matt who is a blond(e) and walks around with a bun:


Does Rob usually wear his buff around his neck? At first glance, yes it looks more like a buff than the II, but it seems unusually thick and big around Rob's neck. Something just doesn't seem right about that -- and I'm not 100% convinced it's actually Rob, either:

Maybe I need to stop drinking coffee and get some rest...

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49. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Thanks for blowing that up, Pepe...you know, it looks less like Rob to me now as well. Could it be Grant. There seems to be something on his head, as Grant likes to put something over his dreads. And it seems as though that person has more of a beard than Rob does...? It does look like a buff around the neck as well. I think you guys are right...that's not Rob, nor an immunity necklace. Who do we see that does not have it on...Rooster and Natalie?
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52. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
FP - I think it is Grant too ~ beard & his profile, I think. It is the 4 women sitting in front row, I think. Probably Rob in the far right back, with Philip next to him, and then Grant. I don't know how Grant's shirt is black - either he's wearing Rob's, the pictures been photoshopped, or ?

So then the picture of Rob at TC in post #20 is either from the 2nd TC or an earlier episode (haven't gotten to those yet).

Zap: Can't see if David, Mike, Steve (and maybe Julie) are wearing IN.
Omes: Can't see Rob, Philip, and some girls from Omes. Although, again, it looks like the shape of the IN is hanging on Andrea's plaid shirt....

Another topic: The 3-4 pictures of Philip digging, going down on his knees. It doesn't look to me like that is on purpose. I wonder if he's passing out a little (??) And then Rob's comment "this could be the end of his Survivor Life" (or whatever it was) could go with that...

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112. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
It looks like David to me.
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56. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
There's more than just Matt who is a blond(e) and walks around with a bun:

Well, if you must introduce facts to the conversation ...


Thank you, Pepe. I'd completely forgotten Ashley.

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57. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Ashley? What Ashley? Wasn't she on Survivor Samoa?
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61. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
That is Grant. Look at the orange shorts. I think Rob is the first one in the second row. You can see his head behind the girls in the back row. fwiw.

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62. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Okay, I'm going to take a crack at this TC picture...I will try and label, but feel free to argue away....just starting again at ground zero...

Okay, I have studied this photo. Thanks for the blow up, Pepe. I am now leaning toward this being Phillip. He's got the orange shorts on, and I think that gathered stuff under his chest his his ruffled shirt, as he is wearing in this picture...

What looks like the black wife-beater T-shirt is that Phillip has his bag with him and it's over his right shoulder. He also has something on his head...This guys arms are not as defined as Grants, and I do not think that it is Rob...here it is labeled ....

Also note his beard is far more pronounced than Rob's. Now this is just what I have concluded, but please feel free to argue! Now, here are the ohters that I "think" I see...

Actually, I think I am leaning toward Grant's head being just over Ashley's, and you see him better in the darker picture that is unaltered. And, that would make the guy right over Andrea's head, as Rob...

Okay, go ahead and feed me to the lions....or gorillas!

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78. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Good job in breaking down the pic, FloPo! You're right, it could very well be Phillip, but I'm not quite ready to jump on that bandwagon yet.

Have we ever seen Phillip with a dark-coloured bag that he'd wear with the strap over his shoulder and under his arm like women are known to do? And his collared shirt tends to be more open in the neck area and hangs over his shoulders a bit. In the pic, the light-coloured thing is completely covering the neck and has the consistency of a buff being poofed out.

The shorts - could be Phillip's orange ones, could be Grant's orange ones, could be Rob's red ones. With the lighting and the vagueness of the picture, it could be any colour in the red-orange family. I'm more likely to believe that it's Rob than it is Phillip in that picture.

In fact, if I had to go completely out of left field - it looks like Rob's body/clothes with Russell's head superimposed on it, particularly in the highlighted picture I posted.

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79. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Pepe: Here are the bags...note Grant has his on his shoulder, note the size of the bag and the strap...

Phillip has his shoulder strap over his left shoulder in the above picture and his collar is up on that side as well...

Also, what I think we see on Phillip's chest is not a buff, but his collared shirt, the yoke of his shirt is pushed toward the center of his chest making his collar turn up more...

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80. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Right, but you could see Phillip's shirt being open halfway down his chest in that first cast photo, but the TC photo we've been breaking down doesn't show any chest at all, the shirt/buff/noose/whateveritis is closed up right to the neck.
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85. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
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ETA: That VG has solved the puzzle and you were right, it was Boston Rob and his wife beater! Don't know what I am thinking these days! Well done, Pepe!


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96. "Confused"
Are we trying to figure out who is in this photo?

I would say Rob. Looks to me like a blank tank top exposing white arms and orange shorts below. He either has immunity around his neck or a buff around his neck. What's the color of the new buff?



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97. "RE: Confused"
The Murlonio tribe color is black. The buffs do have some color and various symbols and writing like always but they are mostly black.
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101. "RE: Confused"
samboohoo, we were trying to figure it out, but VG clarified the image, so we now know for sure it is Rob. The question now is whether CBS photoshopped his chest because he's wearing the idol.
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102. "RE: Confused"
>The question now is whether CBS photoshopped his
>chest because he's wearing the idol.

That's something you don't see very often these days -- a guy having his chest photoshopped. We see it all the time with the fairer sex...


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114. "RE: Confused"
You guys...this looks like Russhell...like an old photo, see the flat top of his hat? and the beard? And tattoos? It almost creeped me out when I got close to focus in on it...someone help me. Have we seen this picture before?

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That is a cropped blow-up from this weeks promos, the TC shot with "2 Tribal Councils" superimposed.

Find the Robs.

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This clip might have been taken after the challenge when Mike ripped Grant's shirt:

Grant is saying "I'm my own man, I make my own decisions" after Jeff questions if Rob is still in control of the Ometepes. But since his shirt hasn't been repaired yet (and his beard looks slightly shorter) CBS must be inserting this clip to create doubt. So in reality, it is misdirection. Grant is still with Rob. ETA: Buff-o-matic at work!


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53. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Not wanting to reply way up the thread, but in response to the talk of IC's and TC's:

It is in the official Rules given to the players that there cannot be more than one immunity challenge per TC cycle.

So if there are two IC's, it has to be IC, then TC vote, second IC, then TC vote. Note this is exactly what they did in S19 and S20, and most likely would have done in S21 without the two quitters.

"Surprise" -- the players expect days of rest between the high stress events. It is always a surprise when they have two 1-day cycles, or a 1-day coupled with a 2-day. I would not read more into it than that.

They could have a duel after the first TC, but it would probably overcrowd the episode and they will have a triple duel at the beginning of Ep 10. Because it will be two short cycles, Matt won't be there alone very long.

The big action IC most likely involves a reward for either the finalists or for the winner and companion of his or her choice. The reward winners would get a clue to the HII, whether or not one goes back in play. It would be weird though, because it would relate to the old hiding place at Ometepe camp. Oh well, rocks trees beach logs -- there are some in every camp.

The second TC would be something that people could watch who were eating. With that type of dynamic, it has always been a challenge where the players can see the feasters. The first challenge wouldn't work.

IIRC, the Tocantins challenge Tyson won was a form of table shuffleboard, where the burden was on him to knock out Sierra.


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60. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
So, what is your spec, OFG?

You have made a good point. Since we don't see where the feasters would be placed so that they are all in view of the participants, so I doubt that the challenge shots that we have are from the food or immunity challenge. So, two challenges then?

Also, if they do get a clue with a reward, it would be specific to their new camp area. Rob/Phillip and Mike/David are seen around the camp flag digging deeply looking for the HII. Clearly, there must be one. I do believe that someone in the Zap camp will find it, so Rob has to gamble and have paranoia.

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65. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
LOL, that was my spec, FP!
To put it more as an outline:

1) 11 person RC/IC combo run in heats is the Sucha challenge.
Winner wins immunity and top finishers win reward, HII clue goes to reward winners, which may include a Zapatera.

2) F11 TC.

3) F10 IC, no reward but those eat who don't compete or drop out for temptations, not clear which style it is without more info. This should be a more intimate challenge that allows the competitors to be aware of and annoyed at those who who feel safe enough to eat.

4) F10 TC.

It is pretty simple, follows a tried and true format.
At end of episode, two people have joined Matt on Redemption Island to await the next tri-el.

I got confused by the digging spec. Could someone post which caps are from the challenge digging and which are from camp? That would help!

If the clue says to dig, then most likely production did decide to bury a new idol.

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67. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
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PS. offered as what I would consider proof that the Sucha is not the temptations challenge ...

The Sucha is clearly set up for exact numbers of competitors. Half the tribe will be eliminated in the first round, so it's definitely not the kind where people are tempted as the challenge is ongoing. That only works with endurance challenges.

As for the type where people decide to compete or eat at the get-go, they wouldn't do that with a challenge that requires a certain number of people. I mean, what if only four people were into it? It would look stupid.

I'll see if I can find some other examples of challenges where people have the choice to eat or compete. We have the Tocantins shuffleboard as one. Actually it was Debbie who won that and Tyson got voted out, blindsided. JT, Stephen, and Coach sat out.

Please add on!

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68. "ICs where people choose to sit out"
Guatemala

IMMUNITY CHALLENGE: POT HEAD
When the new Xhakum tribe arrived for the Immunity Challenge, it appeared to be some sort of feast. However, it was a feast with a twist. The object of the Challenge: balance a clay pot on your head while standing on a podium. The Survivors were given the option to participate in the Immunity Challenge if they want to, or sit down and enjoy the feast. Jamie, Stephenie, Rafe and Lydia chose the feast, while all of the former members of the Yaxha tribe plus Judd and Cindy chose to participate in the Challenge.

As six of tribemates endured the grueling Guatemalan heat with pots on their heads, the other four gorged themselves on the feast just a few feet away. When host Jeff Probst asked if anybody expected four people would be sitting down to a feast, Jamie piped up with, "Bobby Jon and Brandon know they have a chance of going home tonight, and Judd is up there protecting our lead."

Jamie's crass statements sparked a heated exchange between him and Bobby Jon, making it clear they were a tribe divided. Bobby Jon managed keep his composure and stood tall in the Challenge. He responded to Jamie's bullying by saying, "When you start going off at the mouth, I ain't going to let you big-boy me."

At the end of the one-hour mark, the competition moved to a tie-breaker round. In this round, Survivors must race to the top of the Maya ruin with the pots on their heads. Gary, the ex-professional football player, sprinted to victory and was first to take the individual Immunity necklace.

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69. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
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Micronesia endurance -- drop-out to eat option

IMMUNITY CHALLENGE: WHEN IT RAINS IT POURS
Hold your arm up or bucket tips water on you.

After 20 minutes, Jeff reveals a big bowl of candy. “You guys have been out here a long time without sugar,” he says. Jeff promises the bowl of candy to the one who is bold enough to step down and out of the challenge. Cirie and Erik make a deal to share the candy and together they quit, yanking on their lines and spilling water all over each other. They mow down on the candy, watching everyone else sweat it out.

45 minutes in, Jeff comes out with something else behind his back and Alexis, too excited, jumps the gun, pulling her line and soaking herself before Jeff even offers the dish. The entire tribe laughs, and Jeff tells her there's no chance she’ll get the prize. She takes a seat on the bench, pouting, as Jeff reveals the plate of cookies and a tall glass of milk.

Natalie, feeling dizzy, suddenly tumbles off her step, pulling her line and spilling water everywhere. James, laughing at the two girls, cries out, “That would suck!" Ironically, at that moment, he loses his concentration as well, pulling on his line and spilling his bucket of water.

The challenge comes down to Ozzy, Amanda, Parvati, and Jason. After an hour, Jeff comes out with three chocolate glazed donuts. Ozzy doesn't hesitate, he drops his arm and yells, "I'll take it!" Ozzy opts out of the challenge for three donuts, leaving Amanda, Parvati, and Jason in the game.

At five hours in, Amanda purposefully drops her arm, gets drenched, and runs into the jungle to relieve herself.

Parvati and Jason are all that’s left. They face off; both determined to stay in the game. Six hours in, Jeff brings out a tray filled with goodies: three chocolate chip cookies, four doughnuts, a big tall jar of candy, peanut butter, two chocolate bars, a glass of milk, two beers, and a huge pizza.

Whichever of the two steps down will share the goodies with the others sitting on the bench. Parvati teases Jason, "You could make friends!" The tribe agrees, telling Jason that if he steps down, they will spare him at Tribal Council. Jason asks for a guarantee from every single person in the game.

The entire tribe promises he'll be safe at this night's Tribal Council, Cirie and Alexis with fingers crossed behinds their backs. Jason thinks about it for a moment, prays he's not making the biggest blunder in the game, and finally drops his arm. The bucket of water crashes down on Jason and Parvati wins Individual Immunity.
_____________

Ozzy blindsided after he dropped out with 4 remaining -- all for 3 doughnuts.

HvV version
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IMMUNITY CHALLENGE: WHEN IT RAINS

With the challenge underway, Jeff brings out a covered food item to tempt the castaways into stepping down from the challenge. Before Jeff can even uncover this item, Russell and Sandra step down only one minute into the challenge to get their hands on what they soon find out is a plate full of delicious cookies and milk.

The remaining tribe members continue to endure, but are tempted again by food. Jeff brings out various food items including donuts and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, which is enough to convince Colby, Danielle, Jerri and Candice to give up immunity.

It comes down to Rupert and Parvati fighting for the immunity necklace. About an hour into it, Rupert loses his balance, and Parvati wins this challenge for her second time.
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Candace voted out.

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71. "China, Ep 9"
Immunity Challenge
The tribe greets Jeff Probst at the Immunity challenge where he explains the rules. This challenge will test the Survivors’ memory, as they each have a series of Chinese zodiac symbols on a table in front of them. In each round, Jeff Probst will call out a specific sequence of symbols. The Survivors must place their symbols in the correct order as stated. If they get it correct, they stay in the game. Answer incorrectly and they are out. The last person remaining wins.

Before the game begins, Jeff Probst shocks the tribe as they are presented a huge dilemma. They can either participate in the challenge in hopes of winning Immunity, or opt out and gorge on cheeseburgers and french fries. Feeling comfortable with their position in the game, James, Denise, Todd and Courtney elect to eat in lieu of competing, while Peih-Gee, Erik, Amanda and Frosti decide to play.
__________

Peih-Gee won, Amanda was the only one of her alliance who competed.
Frosti voted out.

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72. "Panama Exile Island"
IMMUNITY CHALLENGE: MARINE MEMORY
each Survivor is asked to grab a nut and a shell and put them in opposite hands. He then explains that for the Challenge, each person will swim out to a long plank with seven symbols on it resting on the ocean floor. They will have to memorize the symbols in order and race back to the beach, where they will try to replicate those symbols, in order, on their answer board. The first person to solve the puzzle correctly wins Immunity.

But there's a twist: participation in this Immunity Challenge is optional. If someone chooses not to participate, they will instead chow down on cheeseburgers, french fries and soft drinks. They can eat for as long as the Challenge goes or until the food runs out. Whoever wants to take part in the Challenge will reveal a shell in their hand. Whoever wants to sit out will show the nut. All but Aras, Terry and Sally choose to sit this one out.

As Bruce, Cirie, Courtney, Danielle and Shane all devour hamburgers, Aras, Sally and Terry sprint down the beach toward the water. Terry is first to dive down for a peek at the plank with Aras not far behind him. Terry is also first to return to the beach to solve the puzzle, but Aras thinks he has it solved first. When his answer board proves to be wrong, Aras desperately rushes out to the plank for another look. But yet again, Terry solves the puzzle and wins Immunity.
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Sally voted out. Note that in this one, the competitors do race away from where the feasters sit, but the puzzle is in view of the feast. In this challenge, poor Aras was the only member of the Casaya alliance to take on the two remaining La Mina.

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73. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Well, it's pretty good spec, and I'm with you!

Could someone post which caps are from the challenge digging and which are from camp?

See my post here.



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74. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Thanks! I went through the vidcap topic again and did figure it out this time, but I didn't expect to find the answer in the Episode title topic. Got it now ...

well, if they went to all that trouble to trick us into thinking Mike finds it, i suppose he doesn't. Not a good sign for Mike, but if Rob thinks Mike has it, Rob might go forward with a Steve vote, figuring Mike won't be giving it away.

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77. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
He's going to have to "gamble"...
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89. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
I really think something is fishy about that TC picture! I don't doubt any of you, but something is different! The TC picture in post # 21, 24, and 82 all look the same to me now. I don't think these posts were as clear before. If you look at post # 38, 48, and 62, you see the "old" version!! (Conspiracy theory, here I come)!
Now it is so plain to see (in 21, 24, and 82) that is Rob...Whatever he has on his neck still doesn't look like the IN Natalie wore last week, but that's another thought).
"Old" TC picture in post 38, 48, and especially 62, it is so much fuzzier, and there appears to be something all around his neck vs. just on that one shoulder like in new picture.

Also, look at post #20, to me, Rob is sitting in TC, with no IN, with some girl to his left with a bun in her hair. I've looked at every TC Rob has been in, and he is NOT sitting next to a girl with her hair in a bun! So which TC is this that we are seeing? TC#1 or TC#2 - or is he sitting in the "dining room" at TC?!?!?;

I mentioned when the first version of the TC picture came out, that I saw the shape of the IN (as portrayed on Natalie last week) more on Andrea than on "Rob". I totally realize it looks like a black "wife beater", but his head & face were never that clear in the posts (#21 and #24) before. Did that picture get updated somehow in those posts (but not in posts 38, 48 and 62)??? Just something that makes me go "hmmm".

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91. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Hi Rachel...Volcanic Glass, who had posted the first shot amended it with a clearer one. One that shows it is indeed Boston Rob in his wife beater. There was something that you could see around his neck from afar, and something that they "smudged" over in the newer shots....they photoshopped the IN out of the picture, but look at the back of his neck. Clearly, there is more there than just his gold chain. I think Pepe was working on zooming in on Andrea and the results were inconclusive.

Hope this helps!

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04-10-11, 09:06 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
rachel, the first caps VG puts up are from the web promo, which doesn't have great clarity. Later in the week CBS typically airs the promo, this time in broadcast HD as opposed to internet video. I would imagine that the new clearer shot with the "smudge" erasure of part of the light area around Rob's neck is from the HD version.
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04-10-11, 10:49 PM (EST)
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94. "5 second promo"
Tonight at the end of The Amazing Race there was a short promo featuring Rob and Phillip:

Voice over with Rob featured, "Will 2 Tribal Councils force Rob from the game?"

Phillip, "I gotta make something happen!"

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95. "RE: 5 second promo"
I'm beginning to think they ask Phillip any off the wall thing they want in confessionals and he just goes with it no matter what it is.
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04-11-11, 10:42 PM (EST)
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106. "Here's a preview clip of the 2nd challenge"
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=IPT8ut3GIWSKCDQkaNhC1vIaOfyKjoFI&nrd=1

Dreamteamers compete in this preview. The challenge is called "Gang Hang" -- like monkey bars over a pool. This must be the endurance challenge that Jeff mentioned they'll have a chance to drop off for food.

Don't think Ralph, Steve, David or Phillip will do well. Spa girls could do well but will they drop for chocolate or pizza?

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04-11-11, 10:51 PM (EST)
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107. "RE: Here's a preview clip of the 2nd challenge"
P.S. Dreamteamer won at 39 minutes.

I could see Grant, Natalie or Ashley winning this. Only 2 who I would think would have a shot on the Zaps are Julie and Mike (if he's still around for this challenge). Definitely could see several people dropping off for food, including Phillip.

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108. "RE: Here's a preview clip of the 2nd challenge"
I took some caps of the video and posted them here.
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117. "Request"
Since vidcap threads are turning into monsters this season could the initial vidcaps be put in the first reply post from now on instead of the initial post? That might be a little more organized and it would help once the thread gets flaming not to have to wade through those vidcaps every time I open this these threads. (Expanded thread mode is useful but a lot of threads are huge every week now and that's another big wade.) Thanks.
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118. "RE: Request"
P.S. Just wanted to note that I posted the new Press Photos for anyone who's interested. (Post 116 -- see way above). Sorry, I screwed up and put them in the wrong spot -- it's late .
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119. "RE: Request"
I was just looking at those, many thanks! It's not that we're all that organized to begin with, AyaK gave up on herding us kittens eons ago.
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122. "RE: Request"
I was going to PM FlowerPower with the same idea. Make the top post a short placeholder so that the thread can be opened without a lot of caps loading. By later in the week we have already seen the initial caps many times.

I sometimes view this on my phone, and that is when having to wait for all the first load of preview caps is really clunky.

One lead post, which is text not graphics, and then every time new vid caps come out, post them as a reply to the lead post and no other, then let analysis related to those caps thread down from that batch. I think that would help.

Squid, many thanks for the press photos, and FlowerPower and VG, big thanks for posting these vidcaps. It's a lot of work and it's so wonderful to have them.

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142. "RE: Request"
Yes this is a very good idea, in fact I seem to remember that we did this in at least one prior season and it worked very well. It's easier to quickly see where new posts have been added to the thread.
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144. "RE: Episode 9, Vidcaps Thread"
Take this with a grain of salt, but Jimbo aka missyae, claims that tonight, Rob gives one to get one, if you get my drift...... aka Gives up Phillip for a Zap male.
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