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"The Thread to Restore Sanity"
Rated E for Everyone. Editing threaders only, lurkers, non-spoilers, full-bore-spoilers, analyzers, speculators, this one's for everyone. If you don't yet know your ABCs get your Mommy to read it to you, you're welcome here too.

So, a couple of rules for this thread are in order.

1. No Spoiling. This isn't the thread for that.

2. No Fighting. This is a thread for conversation, maybe some healthy debate, it is not an invitation to square off and go 15 rounds. Disagreements may arise, try to keep it civil and respectful, there is no reason to be disagreeable.

The topic of this thread is the Spoiler Forum itself. There are divisions among the forum users that are causing stress and frustration and anxiety and maybe a few pimples. Can we find a way to just peacefully co-exist, can't everyone who wants to enjoy themselves here just find a way to get along? Stuff like that.

In my view all of these forums are for one thing, for us to have fun with. Spoiling is a fun pastime. I am responsible for how I have fun and use these forums, you are responsible for how you do it. Getting in each other's way should not be anyone's intent, anyone with a confrontational attitude towards fellow posters around here you need to run a diagnostic and fix that programming, okay.

But getting in each other's way unintentionally is a problem where no one is to blame, it happens. No one is really at fault. No matter what we do it may continue to happen, but maybe not so much. Do we need to change things, how we do things? If so, how do we do it?

Okay, Veruca's editing thread is a great example of a thread having a topic, of spoiling in that topic being limited to the purpose of the thread. It's simple to understand, it is about analyzing the editing of what we've seen in the episodes after the fact, sometimes projecting from what we've been shown some things like what are so-and-so's chances of winning this game without undergoing a frontal lobotamy. Before the first episode airs we gather information there about the players, who they are and where they're from and what Jeff had to say about them before filming began and such. Once the first episode airs it is all about after-the-fact studies of what has aired.

Simple, easy to get, we all get it even if we may use different wording to get it by. Bingo, we have an example of a thread for a specific purpose and limited spoiling. And it is valuable and can be a spoiling tool for everyone.

We can do it!

But then there are things like Vidcap threads which serve conjoined purposes, straight analysis of visual evidence from promos, content story analysis of where the story is going. These threads have tremendous value for speculators who just want to get the visual evidence of, say, who ends up on what tribe because of the switch. But source spoilers can gleen information there valuable to their putting together the pieces of the puzzle they are playing with. Neither side is wrong but we have a problem because unintentionally we are interfering with each other having fun. Speculators are frustrated because they don't want the source spoiling stuff, source spoilers are frustrated trying to censor themselves when really they don't want to because they are in the hunt. Is there a solution, if so what's the answer.

Perhaps Vidcap threads can be sectioned somehow, visuals only section and jigsaw story section (lousy name, we can certainly do better). Or we may want to consider having threads that are marked Speculation Only, Spoiling Only, Limited Spoiling, Analysis Only. I hope it doesn't really have to get that complicated but a well organized forum for the demands of the time is a worthy goal.

Oh, and source spoiling people, can we get you all to agree to just one thing, please. You don't really know anything except what someone says happened/is going to happen. It is all really a guessing game. And nonsource spoiling people, you need to understand that as well. No matter how they word it, all that the source spoiling people really know is what someone said, nothing else. There are no assurances, it is all a guessing game.

Spoiling is for fun, however anyone chooses to do it. It is also a collaborative effort of everyone involved, even those people you may choose to ignore. That includes missy and whoever may be the telephone game sources for what missy says. As best as possible we need to all get along and remember that the real enemy, if you even need one, is MB.

If spoiling proves anything other than it just being a fun pastime, this is what it proves: Betting on events after they have occured is stupid. Not that the people placing the bets are stupid, the people running the betting parlors are.

Which brings me to the voting thread. For my own sanity I cannot take running the betting parlor that seriously, it's just for fun. Some of the threads here are supposed to be for everyone, like voting, like the EC thread during the blackout period, that's the way it is.

So, let's have a conversation, a discussion here, let's figure it out. Are there problems I haven't identified, please elaborate. Play nice.


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 The Thread to Restore Sanity   dabo     11-05-10       
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Slider     11-05-10     1  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   kiki_k     11-05-10     2  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Slider     11-05-10     3  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   dabo     11-05-10     4  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-07-10     5  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Corvis     11-07-10     9  
   Previous topic   Outfrontgirl     11-07-10     6  
     RE: Previous topic   michel     11-07-10     11  
         RE: Previous topic   Outfrontgirl     11-07-10     13  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   AaronLittleton     11-07-10     7  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-07-10     8  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Corvis     11-07-10     10  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   SquidProQuo     11-07-10     12  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-07-10     14  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   michel     11-07-10     16  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Corvis     11-07-10     17  
                     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-07-10     18  
                     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-07-10     19  
                         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   michel     11-07-10     21  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   dabo     11-07-10     15  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   AaronLittleton     11-09-10     45  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-07-10     20  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Oingo     11-08-10     25  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     43  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   mimo     11-09-10     60  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     62  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   AaronLittleton     11-09-10     46  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     48  
   The Spoiler Forum   Krautboy     11-08-10     22  
     RE: The Spoiler Forum   Outfrontgirl     11-08-10     23  
     RE: The Spoiler Forum   Georjanna     11-08-10     24  
         RE: The Spoiler Forum   LFJ     11-08-10     26  
             RE: The Spoiler Forum   Outfrontgirl     11-08-10     31  
                 RE: The Spoiler Forum   michel     11-08-10     35  
                     RE: The Spoiler Forum   Georjanna     11-13-10     101  
                     RE: The Spoiler Forum   Outfrontgirl     11-13-10     102  
                         RE: The Spoiler Forum   michel     11-13-10     103  
                             RE: The Spoiler Forum   Rayne     11-16-10     121  
                                 RE: The Spoiler Forum   dabo     11-16-10     123  
                                     RE: The Spoiler Forum   michel     11-17-10     131  
                                         RE: The Spoiler Forum   Outfrontgirl     11-17-10     133  
                                             RE: The Spoiler Forum   michel     11-17-10     134  
                                             RE: The Spoiler Forum   Outfrontgirl     11-18-10     144  
                                             RE: The Spoiler Forum   michel     11-19-10     146  
                                             RE: The Spoiler Forum   Outfrontgirl     11-19-10     147  
                                             RE: The Spoiler Forum   Outfrontgirl     11-19-10     148  
                                             RE: The Spoiler Forum   michel     11-19-10     149  
                                             Stop Now   dabo     11-19-10     150  
                                         RE: The Spoiler Forum   dabo     11-18-10     136  
                                             RE: The Spoiler Forum   michel     11-18-10     142  
     RE: The Spoiler Forum   dabo     11-08-10     28  
         Spoiler Free Zones   Krautboy     11-08-10     29  
   Vidcap Threads   dabo     11-08-10     27  
     RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-08-10     30  
         RE: Vidcap Threads   Oingo     11-08-10     32  
             RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-08-10     33  
             RE: Vidcap Threads   dabo     11-08-10     37  
                 RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-08-10     41  
         RE: Vidcap Threads   michel     11-08-10     36  
             RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-08-10     40  
                 RE: Vidcap Threads   Corvis     11-09-10     50  
                     RE: Vidcap Threads   Krautboy     11-09-10     52  
                         RE: Vidcap Threads   Brownroach     11-09-10     54  
                             RE: Vidcap Threads   rachelOH63     11-09-10     55  
                                 RE: Vidcap Threads   dabo     11-09-10     56  
                                 RE: Vidcap Threads   Corvis     11-10-10     73  
                             RE: Vidcap Threads   Corvis     11-10-10     74  
                                 Counter Proposal   dabo     11-10-10     76  
                                 RE: Vidcap Threads   Brownroach     11-10-10     77  
                                     RE: Vidcap Threads   SpotTheDifference     11-10-10     78  
                                     RE: Vidcap Threads   Corvis     11-10-10     79  
                                         RE: Vidcap Threads   rachelOH63     11-10-10     80  
                                         RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-10-10     81  
                                             RE: Vidcap Threads   Corvis     11-10-10     83  
                                             RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-10-10     89  
                                             RE: Vidcap Threads   michel     11-10-10     92  
                                             RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-11-10     94  
                                             RE: Vidcap Threads   michel     11-11-10     95  
                                         RE: Vidcap Threads   Brownroach     11-10-10     85  
                                             RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-10-10     90  
                                 RE: Vidcap Threads   Outfrontgirl     11-10-10     82  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   CTgirl     11-08-10     34  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   dabo     11-08-10     38  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-08-10     39  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   AaronLittleton     11-09-10     47  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   rachelOH63     11-08-10     42  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   dabo     11-09-10     44  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   LFJ     11-09-10     49  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Krautboy     11-09-10     51  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   LFJ     11-09-10     53  
                     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   dabo     11-09-10     57  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     59  
                     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   michel     11-09-10     65  
                         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     68  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     61  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   LFJ     11-09-10     64  
                     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     66  
                     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   AaronLittleton     11-09-10     67  
                         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     70  
                             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   AaronLittleton     11-10-10     87  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Brownroach     11-09-10     58  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-09-10     63  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   michel     11-09-10     69  
         IMPOSSIBLE   Round Robin     11-10-10     71  
             I Agree   michel     11-10-10     72  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Flowerpower     11-10-10     75  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-10-10     84  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   michel     11-10-10     88  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-10-10     91  
     Vidcap Analysis...Common Ground   Krautboy     11-10-10     86  
         RE: Vidcap Analysis...Common Ground   dabo     11-10-10     93  
         RE: Vidcap Analysis...Common Ground   mimo     11-11-10     96  
         RE: Vidcap Analysis...Common Ground   Outfrontgirl     11-11-10     97  
             RE: Vidcap Analysis...Common Ground   michel     11-11-10     98  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Georjanna     11-12-10     99  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-13-10     100  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   michel     11-13-10     104  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Georjanna     11-16-10     118  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-16-10     125  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Krautboy     11-13-10     105  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-13-10     106  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   SpotTheDifference     11-14-10     107  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-14-10     108  
                     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   SpotTheDifference     11-14-10     109  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   kiki_k     11-14-10     110  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   SquidProQuo     11-14-10     111  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   michel     11-14-10     112  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   SquidProQuo     11-14-10     113  
   Musical Interlude   dabo     11-15-10     114  
     RE: Musical Interlude   AaronLittleton     11-15-10     115  
     RE: Musical Interlude   Outfrontgirl     11-15-10     116  
     RE: Musical Interlude   michel     11-15-10     117  
         RE: Musical Interlude   Brownroach     11-16-10     122  
             RE: Musical Interlude   michel     11-16-10     127  
                 RE: Musical Interlude   Brownroach     11-18-10     135  
     RE: Musical Interlude   Outfrontgirl     11-16-10     119  
   Next Step   dabo     11-16-10     120  
     RE: Next Step   rachelOH63     11-16-10     124  
         RE: Next Step   Round Robin     11-17-10     129  
     RE: Next Step   Outfrontgirl     11-16-10     126  
     RE: Next Step   Outfrontgirl     11-17-10     128  
         Agree   dabo     11-17-10     130  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Scarlett O Hara     11-17-10     132  
     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   dabo     11-18-10     137  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Round Robin     11-18-10     138  
         RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-18-10     139  
             RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   dabo     11-18-10     140  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-18-10     141  
                     RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Outfrontgirl     11-18-10     143  
                 RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Brownroach     11-18-10     145  
   RE: The Thread to Restore Sanity   Tummy     11-22-10     151  

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