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LAST EDITED ON 12-18-10 AT 10:58 PM (EST)I loved Jane's edit, and loved the way she went out. It's not every vote in survivor that someone earns enough respect that their alliance lets them know that they are voting them out. It was an epic scene when the 4 of them were squared off and the camera was catching the look in Jane's eyes when she was asking them all the right questions and getting the early verdict. Too bad there wasn't much she could do to change the outcome though. And now seeing Jane go out at 6, it's interesting to note all the time they put into her edit. It did give the editors lots to work with in terms of a survivor story (survivor macgyver's journey). But it could've been edited differently, in fact more negatively, or simply less focus. I think it was interesting that Jane's edit lead to making all three of the those in her final alliance look so negatively. Nice storytelling, but could it benefit a winner's edit? So the three stories I feel were front and center this season where "Survivor MacGyver" "To Quit or Not to Quit" and "Playing it cool" So the one story is finished with Jane's ouster, and we have the 2 others still playing out. Interesting, Dan could be attached to the other 2 themes, for wanting to quit once and withstanding, and for flying under the radar (a form of playing it cool). But I just simply cannot see Dan winning. His edit was far too weak. Especially when we saw a nugget like when he had the fortitude to question Sash in the last episode. They have been hiding this side of Dan all this time, which would've made his edit meatier and made him more worthy of winning. It seems the other two themes had lead players, Holly and Fabio, respectively. Dan has played second to Holly's lead in the "quitter no more" theme. She was shown coaching him at one point, and not as much has been made of his withstanding (although it most likely will come up when he bows out) I still think Holly has had the most peculiar edit out of anyone all season. To me she has been the player that was most manipulated to make very strong assertive statements. Some fitting right into the storyline, and others that seemed to be placed to steadily prove she was a worthy player. Reminding me of Stephen in Tocintins,which from an editing point of view has continually let us be aware that this player had a pulse on the game all along, whereas their fellow castaways may not have noitced or believed so. That's just the vibe I get on Holly. I think she's played the game well and will make it to the end. I just don't think the jury will honor it. Who the jury will most likely honor is Fabio. The leader in "playing it cool." With many emotional players (even Alina who was more calculated cried on the jury), they will be more likely to honor his ability to get along nicely with others (ala Natalie in Samoa) In terms of editing, I felt going into this episode he needed a key confessional after last weeks tribal counceil noting he had some awareness of what was going on, and the predicament he's in. And we got just that. Even better, we got it right after we saw Sash try to do some damage control with him. Also from last episode, we saw the toss up going on between ousting Benry or Fabio - the two players who had a key scene together about laying low in Brenda's boot episode. Benry didn't lay low and was sent packing. Fabio held it together. This episode painted Fabio in a better light than anyone else, by far. Yes, the emotions were coming up, but he still managed to play it cool. And the way his emotions were framed, seemed to endear him to the audience. To me he looks to be in the best standing and is getting the most consistent and positive edit. So the question lingering for me is: Will the other getting a negative edit this close to the finals, mean that they cannot win? Not necessarily. As with Chase's sudden negative turn, this could be viewed as the clueless niceguy is finally getting some game. So there is a possibility that Chase could make it to the end. But I don't think so. Even if next episode, he can pick up from the damage done to his edit this episode, I don't think he can win. This episode showed the jury's reaction to him was far from that of wanting to reward him, and we don't have any doubt about how Jane feels toward him (and the deliberate edit of this). And what about Sash, could he be the villain that takes it all. Villains or disliked players have taken it all before, but Sash doesn't seem to have enough depth to him like his predecessors (like Brian, Chris or Hatch) His edit appeared to be lacking so much in the beginning, that I would've thought him gone sooner. But his edit since merge has been pretty solid. Now, I'm thinking he'll last another tribal or two, which will make him a final 3 player. For some reason I am just getting a sense that Sash will have a chance to plead his case to the jury (although they won't buy it) I don't know if it's because he's been edited for us to have heard on a number of occasions that he has control of the game, and therefore will get his comeupance. Could be an example of how the best strategist left does not always win. Another thought on Sash, is that all season I have been waiting for what Jeff menitoned in his early cast assessment: that Sash would always talk about the diversity he faces in Harlem and his political rhetoric, and we have yet to really see this. Perhaps he pulls this out in final TC to try to tug at people's heartstrings. But can it work at this stage for him, I don't think so. Still if I were to pick a third to sit alongside Holly and Fabio at this point, it would be Sash. But he can't win it. My bets on Fabio (or Jud, depending on whether or not our sweet blonde-haired boy pulls his mask off ;)
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No Misunderstanding. |
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Yes, there is |
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Oh no you didn't! |
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Thanks |
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11-15-10 |
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Bullying? |
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I'll Do It Again! |
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Seriously? |
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Seriously? You have it Wrong |
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11-15-10 |
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11-15-10 |
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11-15-10 |
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11-22-10 |
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The Recap |
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double quit episode |
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This makes me think -- NO SPOILERS |
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