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"Player of the Season?"
SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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05-14-10, 09:36 PM (EST)
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"Player of the Season?" |
On Sandra's Facebook page tonight, she says that Russell is leading the vote so far. (Not sure how she'd know that.) So she's encouraging her fans to vote for her.Just curious who everyone out there thinks deserves it this season? Based on his blog, it sounds like Jeff thinks Parv deserves it. (And actually Dalton Ross says pretty much the same thing in his most recent column.) I thought they used to call it "Fan Favorite" in the past? But this time it's called "Player of the Season." To me that's 2 different things but maybe not to others. Personally, I can't see how Rupert could win it if it's the latter. Any thoughts on who deserves to win vs. who will win?
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Round Robin 2914 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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05-15-10, 02:04 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
I cannot agree that it should be RussHell. There's no way on God's green earth that anyone who has amply demonstrated in consecutive Survivor seasons that he cannot successfully execute the most basic part of Survivor strategy, the social game, well enough to win before the jury should be player of the season. I can buy giving it to Parvati or Sandra, but RussHell? Give me a break!
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Round Robin 2914 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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05-16-10, 02:23 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
RussHell did not win on his season, he lost 5-2. Nor can I remember any other player anywhere near that lacking in social skills winning.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-15-10, 02:50 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
I would never vote for Parvati. a) whatever they call it, the popularity vote is a chance to give someone some money who didn't succeed, and I would never give it to a winner. Especially on All Stars.Parvati already won a million and one hundred thousand plus whatever F6 gets for Cook Islands. The girl took her shot for this million and didn't get it. Sandra has won two million off this game. Enough already. Russell has won 300,000. Rupert has won a million plus a good two hundred thousand for three seasons. If Colby had shown a pulse I would vote for the last Hero standing but ... well, check out TDT's tribute to the highlights of the Donaldson this season. http://www.truedorktimes.com/s20/spoilers/e14/colby.htm I'll probably vote for Jerri, based on the way she managed to stay out of the drama all this time -- and as we know Jerri is capable of getting sucked in. She really did play it Zen. To me she is the Natalie of this season, and she did play. Hers was the pivotal vote for Boston Rob and changed the course of the game and she was smart enough to never put her loyalty into question. And ... she has never placed high enough to make a killing on this game. Plus I think she has a great redemption arc.
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NedraSue 109 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-16-10, 09:59 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
Yes, I would have definatly voted for Rob...he had the most control of this game, at one point and if it would have worked out, he probably would have won just about every one of these challenges. But he didn't. I agree with every noted in this discussion and have already voted for Jerri. The funny thing about this season, is that I was a fan of a couple of people pretty good, and others not so much. It almost seems like this season had changed that all around. I'm not so much on the Rupert/Colby bandwagon (the 1st time Colby was on, I printed off pictures and hung them on the desk wall at work, it looked like he was one of my family and friends..ha!) But now, I am really on Sandra and Jerri's fan following. They are really great ladies and would love to hang out with either one. Notice, I don't mention anything about Russell...I haven't been a fan of him from day 1...and if any of these people were smart they would have voted him off at the Randy vote! Too much unknown about him.
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PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-16-10, 04:05 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
Agree. As much as I dislike Parvati, she's played a better strategic game than anyone else ... and she's won a bunch of challenges as well! It's hard to top someone who has pulled off challenge wins along with master manipulations with the idols and reading through other people's B.S. (hello Amanda) to keep herself in the game even though everyone was gunning for her.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-16-10, 12:25 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
I'd give it to Colby. If he wasn't a total slug this season, he'd have long ago been voted out. Brilliant strategy.
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-16-10, 04:09 PM (EST)
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13. "It's not a question of skill..." |
...it's who has the most computers chugging away on auto-vote.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-16-10, 07:35 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: It's not a question of skill..." |
used to be, but now it's 10 votes per person.Can't give credit to Parv for the early move that kept her in the game. She was told who Russell is and how he plays, and no other player knew that. She knew how Natalie got to the end ... no one is even bothering to deny this, and people are saying that CBS has forbidden them to talk about it. Why support someone who used casting connections to gain an advantage over the others? Not to mention that there many people feel that Danielle was cast to be Parvati's ally as opposed to other candidates who were not. And Ozzy was set to fly out when he got cut from the cast. Someone who might be looking to get revenge on Parvarti, off the show in spite of his fan following. How did Ozzy not deserve to be on the Heroes? Manipulation is right.
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ihatehantz 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-17-10, 11:42 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
>Thanks for sharing the poll, Pepe. >The main thing that stood >out to me is that >unlike the American public, spoilers >and more "in the know" >Survivor fans do not like >Rupert! (Not a surprise, really > > >I'm guessing that between Rupert, Parv, >Sandra and Boston Rob, the >"non-Russell" vote was fragmented. Too >bad there wasn't a concerted >campaign to beat Russell and >get everyone else to vote >for 1 person. Unfortunately the >2 Fan Fave wins only >contribute to his delusions. Delusion is the perfect word, RussHell has no clue, and will never get one. Jeff was way too easy on him last night, but the jury wasn't, Congrats Danielle for giving it to him, but I am afraid he didn't even hear it.
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Round Robin 2914 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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05-17-10, 03:14 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
Unless there is a lawsuit over it, I doubt you'll hear any more of it than rumors for at least the next several years.
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NedraSue 109 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-17-10, 01:57 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-17-10 AT 01:59 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 05-17-10 AT 01:59 PM (EST) A couple of quick notes on last nights show...Jeff did really try to keep RussellRants limited...Russell truly doesn't have a clue as to how the show is actually played. Congrats big time to Tom doing such a great job at pharaphrasing. I am a huge JT fan, and I think his move wasn't as dumb as if it would have worked, but Jeff never once talked about 'cross tribal alliances' like he did in past seasons, so we should have known right away, that wasn't going to work. BUT, if JT's love letter would have ended up in the fire and actually burned, I would have loved to see him punch JT and have JT file charges right there on live tv! That would have been a hoot. JT could have taken it...I would have laughed my butt off!!! Also, I loved that at the end Jeff said...new season with all new survivors! Thank goodness! Congrats to Sandra. Also, Rob shouldn't let little trolls get under his skin...Rob did good to let it all work itself out. Rob has 1000 times more class that that 2 time loser!
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-17-10, 05:36 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
Hey, CTGirl! When I first found RTVW it was via Survivor Blows...and I was a big Survivor fan until around 2005...and then skipped a lot of seasons until I heard about Russell last season. He did draw me back in to watching Survivor last season. I decided to not read any spoilers this time around...although I could tell Jerri wasn't going to win just from the way her intro pics were edited--the ball just out of her grasp, every week! I didn't know everyone in this season but the ones I didn't know got booted fairly quickly anyway, and it was fun that the ones I knew were the ones who were at the end: Colby, Rupert, Jerri, Parv, Sandra, and then Russell from last season. Too bad Boston Rob couldn't have played longer. I could tell that Russell was making the same mistakes early on this season ... what's the timetable between his season and this one? Really just two weeks? So how did he know he didn't win his season? Also, when I read that Russell got into some sort of assault scuffle recently I surmised that was his frustation over lack of control of the game playing out! What a character. Narcissistic much, Russell? H v V would have been pretty much cast 2 weeks before filming. Wonder when they approached him to play in H v V. Before his season was over or just after? Last night he irritated me the way he kept saying he played "one game" but with only 2 weeks in between I can see how he did not decompress from the first game and he delusionally thought the "All Stars" would play "better" than his season, i.e., respect his game play. He reminds me of people who think that nothing is ever their fault.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-17-10, 09:15 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-17-10 AT 09:37 PM (EST)zazzy, from what I gathered ... this MAY be some of what happened; it's what people are talking about. UNDISPUTED Erika Shay has worked in casting for a number of seasons, since her stint on TAR 5 when her team was the first eliminated. She and Parvati have been BFF onMySpace for quite awhile. Lots of photos of them together. Parv's Myspace url is Hot Casting Chick. http://www.myspace.com/hotcastingchick Lynne Spillman is the casting director. She too is a friend of Parvati's. Russell was recruited by Boo of Fiji. (Supposedly Boo and Russell are co-owners of a bar.) Hantz was originally interviewed for Pirate Master 2, but the show bombed. Boo is an old friend of Krista, she of Big Brother knife in the kitchen fame. Boo brought James to casting as well. Erika Shay was a senior casting associate for Pirate Master and Big Brother as well. Her credits are on imdb. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1671771/ WHAT'S BEEN ON THE GRAPEVINE Back in August, there was a huge Survivor Reunion in Florida, just before the finalists were to fly out. Billy Garcia posted that Jeff Probst and Lynne Spillman were having a big fight because Spillman wanted her protogees on H vs V. Parvati being Lynne's main gal. Many people questioned why Parvati ever got a slot on Micronesia. She was like the Danielle or Candice cast member that season, never accomplished anything of note in her season. Her casting connections are why. Spillman has been big on recruits on the show. Jeff has wanted more "real" people and applicants. There were supposedly a number of people who were told they were on or almost certainly on S20, who didn't get go. Ozzy is one of them. Gossip is that he was cut with his bags packed because he was thought to have it in for Parvati. He never made up with her after Micronesia, but James did. Danielle and Parvati are IRL friends, but in a UTR way such that no one discussed them as a dangerous pair. Many people think Candice was put on Heroes -- mutineer Hero, right, she did her best to destroy Aitu by jumping -- to avoid the appearance that there was a big Parvati alliance on the initial tribe. Amanda, Cirie, Candice, James -- all allies if Parv just made it to merge. Did any other castaway have casting on their side trying to give him/her a smooth ride with pre-prepared alliances and no major enemies? No. It gets worse. Parvati flew out to Samoa while S19 was filming. She vacationed there with Erika Shay. There she was supposedly clued in to Russell's mode of play, which would include that he likes to find a female ally and take her to the end, acting as the perfect goat all the way. All Parvati had to do was become Natalie v. 2. As for Russell, the only season he supposedly saw before filming was Micronesia. Coincidence or did someone in casting tell him which one to watch. He knew he wanted to ally with Parvati on S20. Also, he and casting knew before S19 was halfway filmed that he would be on S20. Only problem for Parvati is that Russell got a tad psycho after all those days in the game, and she miscalculated and lost his trust, so that it wasn't a smooth sail. There is other gossip that's been around a long time, and I repeat it only because people who hang out around the LA group repeat it pretty frequently. Take it for no more than gossip. That parv is Bi, like Natalie Bolton (who they tried to cast, who was an alternate for Courtney). And that so is Lynne or Erika, and there has been some casting couch behavior on Parvati's part from way back when, just not the traditional kind. This is one reason people call her skanky, not for being bi, but for allegedly sleeping with someone who works in casting, and getting Micronesia ... just allegations and not something I can say is true or false. What is true is there have been allegations along those lines since Micronesia. Lastly, Amanda is giving interviews that a mysterious something about this season changed the way she felt about the game and she will never play it again. Candice and Danielle were asked by RTVW what was up, and they said that they weren't going to be the ones to comment. So it is not all internet gossamer. It's serious enough to where CBS ordered radio silence on it. And like I said, all the players at the Cocoa Beach party last season were talking about the Parv favoritism and the Probst-Spillman rift before anyone flew out to Samoa. It took someone like Billy who will never get asked to play again to spill it on the net. The others are afraid of getting cut from the guest lists. Lastly, this season they had the cast staying in Samoa and interacting for days before filming started. They didn't separate them into Heroes and Villains, but they were free to start solidifying pre-game alliances. Like Stephanie said pointedly at the reunion, there were "like three of us who don't hang out with these people." Steph, Tom, Colby were the three I imagine, the ones who don't go to all the Survivor parties. It's a big social club now. Even if Russell had learned how to play nice, I don't think he could have won this season, because he wasn't in the club. Parv was supposed to win.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-17-10, 10:43 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
OFG, I don't know if you saw in Bashers or not, but Boo is accused of hitting a woman in his bar in N'Awlins (that he shares with RussHell, who also has a similar charge of his own to deal with.........) and the victim in Boo's case is BB's Krista......... look for Trifecta for CBS in Bashers.......
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-18-10, 05:53 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-18-10 AT 05:55 PM (EST)There is other gossip that's been around a long time...That parv is Bi They did make a point of showing Parvati tell Danielle she looked "hot" when she first showed up on the jury. ETA: Does Sandra go to all the parties? She doesn't seem like the type that would.
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-18-10, 07:46 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
Thank you, OFGirl, wow, a lot of revelations!First, Parv flying to Samoa while they were filming s19? That can not be coincidence. Next, who is Billy that spilled stuff on the net? And wow, having them mingle in Samoa before filming? Isn't that quite unusual? And with only 10 days between s19 and s20, did Russell get to mingle with them too? That would be even less days that he decompressed between seasons...did he even return to the US between seasons filming or did he just hang in Samoa? As for Russell only seeing S Micronesia before playing, I thought he said in either S19 or an interview around the time of s19 that he was a long time Survivor fan and had watched all the seasons, etc. Anyone else recall that? However, his lack of appreciation for winning over the jury is better explained by his not watching previous seasons. I wondered what Amanda's comment meant at the reunion. This summary from you really sheds light on the behind the scenes. So Survivor has sorta sold out for ratings, hmmm? It was back in the top 10, though. It makes Sandra's win more delicious that the plan for Parv did not work out they way they intended. Any thoughts on Colby? I thought he was throwing the comps for awhile but his play seemed so lackluster the whole season. Was it because he knew there was a fix underway?
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-18-10, 07:56 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
P.S. when Sandra played her hidden II at the TC, she and Jeff exchanged quite a smile...you can see the delight in Jeff's eyes. Is there more to that (like the back story you have provided, and that Sandra was hanging on in the game) or was it just Jeff's enjoying the well played moment?
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-18-10, 09:34 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
Thanks, I remember him now!
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-19-10, 06:57 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Player of the Season?" |
thanks guys, not only was Danielle "hot" but who can forget Natalie Bolton's bizarre jury question to Parvati?I went back and found Billy Garcia's posts from last July. Billy spills on Spillman-Probst drama Here are some pertinent parts snipped from the larger reporting on the event: Well, Here's what's got many Survivors that got on OLD SCHOOL FASION(by audtioning) so pissed off. Lynn Spellmen is showing her recruits favoritism. Basiclly, if she recruited you the first time then your in S20. If you audiotioned or where some one else's recriut...you're out or not even asked! S20 seems to be a power play behind the scenes. The scuttlebutt is that Jeff probst wants more stroke to call shots or he may just walk. It's not about money! Lynn Spellmen is hooking up too many of her friends at the expense of the show and Jeff is NOT cool with it. (IMO, it now explains the recent rash of quitters being cast and Fairplay being looked at again despite asking to be voted out first which is a quit!) More Scuttlebutt: Shane is an alternate and he's pissed! Survivor will continue after 20 with a reduced budgit so get used to back to back season being filmed at or near the same locations from now on. Spellmen's being accused by some of the old schoolers here of stacking the deck in recent seasons to help her recruits get farther so that she looks good to CBS. The old schoolers(myself included) are worried that S20 is gonna be the worst case of that yet cause they are all gonna be her recruit and she can just surround her favorites with the right people! Lets Hope Jeff Probts Can work CBS for the stroke he needs to snuff Spellmen's torch out! She's the reason the Outcast season has been shot down everytime it's been brought up by Probst and a couple of others. The recent outcasts tend to be made up of non-Spellmen recruits or Applicants like me(cause she hooks up her recruits by stacking the deck in their favor, they survive longer IMO). So an Outcast season would most likely have No Spellmen recruits in it so she shoots down the idea everytime! " So what he's saying is that a casting person stands and falls on how their recruits do in the game, so it's to Lynne's professional interest as well as personal for her favorite to get to the end/win. There was definitely some tension between Jeff and Parvati throughout S20. He callled her out on Day One, he called her out for being used to getting attention. He seemed to respect her more near the end. Jeff respects people who pull it all out in challenges, for one thing, and she did stand up to Russell verbally.
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