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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 05:51 PM (EST) "Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" CBS Press Release 12.18.2009 THE FINAL FIVE CASTAWAYS BATTLE FOR A CHANCE TO PLEAD THEIR CASE IN FRONT OF THE JURY FOR THE MILLION DOLLAR PRIZE AND TITLE OF SOLE SURVIVOR, ON A SPECIAL TWO-HOUR SEASON FINALE, FOLLOWED BY A ONE-HOUR LIVE REUNION SHOW OF "SURVIVOR: SAMOA," SUNDAY, DEC. 20, 2009 "This Game Ain't Over" - A shocking new deal is struck even as the remaining castaways face the last two immunity challenges in the game, on a special two-hour season finale, followed by a one-hour live reunion show of SURVIVOR: SAMOA, Sunday, Dec. 20, 2009 (8:00-11:00 PM ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. F5 IC starting vidcap (thank you, TDT!): Obstacle course with puzzle bag waiting after net and balance beam? As was predictable, there is something "shocking" to speculate over. I would have been shocked if the CBS writers had come up with a new adjective.   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... Outfrontgirl 12-18-09 1    RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... byoffer 12-18-09 3    RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... michel 12-18-09 5        RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... Outfrontgirl 12-18-09 8            RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... michel 12-18-09 10    RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... Corvis 12-18-09 6        RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... Outfrontgirl 12-18-09 7            RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... michel 12-18-09 9                RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... byoffer 12-18-09 11                    RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... michel 12-19-09 12                        RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... Outfrontgirl 12-19-09 13  RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... Brownroach 12-18-09 2    RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain... Estee 12-18-09 4    Synonyms for shocking Outfrontgirl 12-19-09 14        RE: Synonyms for shocking michel 12-19-09 15

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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 06:21 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" I figure the "shocking" new deal can't substantially involve Brett. It's way too obvious he can't stay in the game if he loses IC. To state the obvious - 3 people have to align for F5 vote, including at least two Foa Foa, to take out the first Foa Foa, As of last episode, Mick was on the block to go first. While that was somewhat a trust issue, Russell has concerns that Mick is well liked by the jury. (Odd that he doesn't worry about his blonde cohorts chances.) The only person who seems to make moves in this group is Russell, so I would guess he makes a deal with Mick. Also, as Natalie will not shock us by opposing Russell's vote here, Russell has to be on board with a Jaison boot or it won't happen. Mick- I think Mick understands the alliance as himself-Russell-Jaison. Neither of the two guys know about the "secret alliance" with Natalie, although they have had an idea that Russell wants to use her as a goat. Mick might well expect Natalie to be the unfortunate casualty when a Foa Foa has to go, not knowing that Russell/Jaison/Natalie made a F3 agreement last time. Of course Natalie is not going anywhere, because neither Brett nor Russell will vote her out, and Mick and Jaison cannot get it done even if they do work together. Why not boot Russell at F5? The amazing thing is that Brett/Mick/Jaison don't take out Russell when they have a wide open chance. They seem to believe he will get jury votes. Why don't they do it? Perhaps Jaison is just that loyal to his promise. Why does Russell kick his main man to the curb? What's in it for Russell? We know he's afraid Brett will win the final immunity. It's possible Russell believes that Mick, with his agility, has a better shot at beating Brett than Jaison. So far Jaison has not performed that well. Bowling is not representative of much else, and he had an advantage in the plank holding. I don't know what other deal could be cut other than one with Mick. The clue says as they face the final TWO challenges, which implies at F5. Anyway, there is not much to haggle over at F4. Either they get Brett out or they're in deep trouble, but not much point in cutting a deal on a F4 vote until they know about Brett's fate. If he's in, they're all runners up at best.   Top

byoffer 15947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 07:03 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" I think you are right, OFG. The only reason to keep Mick over Jaison is if Russell thinks that Mick has a better chance at beating Brett in an IC. Obviously Brett is the biggest threat for the jury, and has to be eliminated at all costs. My only problem is that by this logic Natalie should be eliminated, as keeping Jaison and Mick doubles the chances of beating Brett (Natalie can't be seen as a challenge threat for Brett). So maybe Russell is balancing between his alliance to Natalie (and his feelings she is not a challenge to win) and getting rid of Brett.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 07:08 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" LAST EDITED ON 12-18-09 AT 07:09 PM (EST) If Brett loses immunity, there are no deals, he's gone. So, the "shocking" deal could be Russell going to Brett after the "baby-faced assassin" (who comes up with this crap!) wins the immunity. Russell promises him F3 if he votes for the player Russell wants out. Of course, that deal would be as worthless as the ones offered Luara, John, Dave, Monica, Shambo, Marisa, Ashley, etc... Russell thinks he has the game won if he makes F3 so he may think Jaison and Mick feel the same way and would want him out.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 07:57 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" Interesting idea, michel, and you may well be on to something. That would be shocking, although hard to imagine it without a RussHell confessional saying it's all BS. Does he need Brett's vote? I can see Russ telling Mick that it's either Mick or Jaison because Natalie is voting with Russ, so Mick would be wise to vote Jaison. That would be the point where Mick should take a leap and recruit Jaison and Brett to vote Russ out, but he's not decisive enough.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 10:02 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" "I can see Russ telling Mick that it's either Mick or Jaison because Natalie is voting with Russ..." Yes, but that leaves Russell one vote short and at Mick's mercy. I think he'd want to secure 3 votes before choosing which to eliminate between Mick and Jaison. That's his usual MO.   Top

Corvis 3130 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 12-18-09, 07:30 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" "(Odd that he doesn't worry about his blonde cohorts chances.)" Russell could never imagine Natalie beating him. He sees himself as having carried her all the way (and it does appear that's what he did) so I don't think he can imagine anyone voting for her over him. It'll be a million dollar mistake for him, I think. I also think Russell doesn't think that much of women in general so it's easy for him to underestimate them.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 07:53 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" I agree with you 100% Corvis. I think all the men on the jury other than Brett don't think that much of women as players. I tend to believe John when he says he trumped up the big Monica/Laura angst so as to divert attention from the strong males at merge, and was not that threatened. These guys have giant male egos. If any of them, other than Brett, vote for Natalie, I think it will be to punish Russell and Mick for failing in some aspect rather than out of the feeling Natalie is the best all around player. She played a very successful game using her assets. I just find it hard to feel someone is the best who never made or initiated an independent strategic move in the whole game. Lucky for her, Mick didn't either, and as a strong and smart male the others hold him to the standard where he ought to have done something more.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 09:56 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" Often the best way to play this game is not to play it. I believe that, if Natalie wins, she will have completely outwitted Russell. For her, it would have been really easy to win this game but only because she was able to recognize the biggest chump on day 1.   Top

byoffer 15947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 11:59 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" Often the best way to play this game is not to play it. So michel, er, WOPR, you are comparing Survivor to nuclear war?? I hope michel has seen WarGames and remembers this quote in reference to nuclear war - "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-19-09, 00:46 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" Sorry, I haven't seen "War Games". A difference would be that there is a winner in Survivor while a nuclear war could only have losers. Playing the game, at least in the sense of playing it too hard too soon, has cost many players to get voted out. So, letting the game come to her, like Natalie did, is smart game play.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-19-09, 01:34 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" If you have never seen War Games with Matthew Broderick, you should see it, even though it's (happily) a bit dated now.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 06:24 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" I'm sort of hoping that for S20 they switch to "horrifying" for the adjective-du-promo. Meanwhile, the post-show preview didn't show much, but I saw the same damn commercial for the finale about 20 times during CSI and The Mentalist. A tribe glows in Brooklyn   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 07:07 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Episode 14 Title: This Game Ain't Over" I'm sort of hoping that for S20 they switch to "horrifying" for the adjective-du-promo. Win.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-19-09, 01:44 AM (EST) 14. "Synonyms for shocking" abominable, appalling, atrocious, detestable, disgraceful, disgusting, disquieting, distressing, dreadful, foul, frightful, ghastly, hellacious, hideous, horrible, horrifying, loathsome, monstrous, nauseating, obscene, odious, offensive, outrageous, repulsive, revolting, scandalous, sickening, stupefying, unspeakable, X-rated CHECK Antonyms admirable, decent, delightful, excellent, first-rate, gratifying, honourable, laudable, marvellous, praiseworthy, satisfying _______________ Shockingly, "surprising" isn't on the synonym list, although I think that's the meaning they're going for. Horrifying is ... Wouldn't it be refreshing if they made a show where that antonym list would be more relevant than those synonyms?   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-19-09, 11:59 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Synonyms for shocking" LAST EDITED ON 12-19-09 AT 12:03 PM (EST) For an episode that devoted not 1 but THREE scenes to Shambutch's mullet, I see many of those synonyms that apply: abominable, appalling, atrocious, disgraceful, disgusting, dreadful, foul, ghastly, hellacious, hideous, horrible, nauseating, odious, repulsive, sickening. Thankfully, it didn't get all the way to X-rated! (And Mick is the one to get the blurs!) PS: I think they forgot about those antonyms somewhere after season 2. Now, they sometimes get lucky, turn to a page at random and fall on one of those words (episode #4 of China)   Top

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