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"Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Discuss the show here until it has aired on the West Coast.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Damaga control Snidget 12-10-09 1
   RE: Damaga control michel 12-10-09 20
 No Reward Challenge Snidget 12-10-09 2
   RE: No Reward Challenge Snidget 12-10-09 3
 Busted vince3 12-10-09 4
 Discussing the vote back at camp. Snidget 12-10-09 5
 Tribal-Da Votes Snidget 12-10-09 6
   *pagong* vince3 12-10-09 7
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Co... KuwabaraTheMan 12-10-09 8
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Co... Prof_ Wagstaff 12-10-09 9
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Co... michel 12-10-09 21
 Immunity Challenge two Snidget 12-10-09 10
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Co... Prof_ Wagstaff 12-10-09 11
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Co... Snidget 12-10-09 12
       RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Co... kingfish 12-10-09 18
           RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Co... vince3 12-10-09 19
 Back at the Beach Snidget 12-10-09 13
 Strong-arm tactics vince3 12-10-09 14
 Tribal Two Snidget 12-10-09 15
   Da Votes Snidget 12-10-09 16
   RE: Tribal Two Prof_ Wagstaff 12-10-09 17
   RE: Tribal Two michel 12-10-09 22
       RE: Tribal Two SquidProQuo 12-11-09 23
       RE: Tribal Two kingfish 12-11-09 24
           RE: Tribal Two Brownroach 12-12-09 29
 Question dabo 12-11-09 25
   RE: Question michel 12-11-09 26
       RE: Question SquidProQuo 12-11-09 27
           RE: Question dabo 12-11-09 28

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1. "Damaga control"
RussHell lies (shocking I know) to Shambo about the vote so she doesn't feel blindsided by it.

If she didn't know she wouldn't have to break her word or sum such

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20. "RE: Damaga control"
She actually thanked him! Talk about gullible.
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2. "No Reward Challenge"
After a discussion of how the jury might go we have an Immunity Challenge.

Immunity up for grabs. Survivor bowling.

Matched with someone else. Roll the ball, 2 shots winner moves onto the next round.

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3. "RE: No Reward Challenge"
Natalie vs Shambo
Shambo wins

Brett vs RussHell
Brett out RussHell wins

Jaison vs Monica
Monica out Jaison moves on

Mick vs Dave
Dave gets the first strike
Mick out Dave moves on.

Round Two

Shambo vs RussHell
RussHell out, Shambo moves on

Jaison vs Dave
Dave out, Jaison moves on.

Shambo vs Jaison
Jaison gets one pin he has immunity
Shambo had two gutter balls
Hangs on to get a couple of pins

Jaison has immunity.

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4. "Busted"
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-09 AT 08:42 PM (EST)

Before the Immunity Challenge, however, Jaison revealed that RussHell told Mick about his salary last year....... and he told it to Brett/Monica........... which can easily poison the jury if they head there very soon.......

ETC to correct male Galoot.

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5. "Discussing the vote back at camp."
Dave thinks it is Dave.
Foa Foa gets together says Dave.
Shambo wants Dave and they don't want to get her upset.

Monica tries to make Shambo look like more of a jury threat than Dave.

RussHell does say that he knows he can beat Dave at the end so that could be a reason to keep him. RussHell goes to Dave and asks why he didn't come to him.

Dave says the Lord fricking provides so anything can happen.

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6. "Tribal-Da Votes"
Shambo
Dave
Dave
Dave
Danger Dave
Dave
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7. "*pagong*"
7-1 officially Dave to Shambo. Everyone but Dave voted to eliminate him, more than one calling him 'Danger' Dave.......
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8. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Jaison wins Immunity for the second time in a row and seems to be playing even harder than Russell now. Him telling Brett and Monica that he's been masterminding the decisions behind the scene was a great idea.
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9. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
"Sham with the plan."
Is that what she said?
What a freakin' nutjob!
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21. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
She meant "The plan's a sham"
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10. "Immunity Challenge two"
Race out, get one of three bags. Launch bag into basket. First to get all three wins immunity.

Brett 1 bag
Mick 1 bag
RussHell 1 bag
Shambo 1 bag

Brett 2 bags
Mick 2 bags
Jaison 1 bag
RussHell 2 bags
Natalie 1 bag
Monica still at zero bags

Brett vs Mick for the win

Brett wins individual immunity.

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11. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
That seems to have been a challange weighted (no pun intended) to the guys.
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12. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Yep, it did seem the gals had problems.
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18. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I thought the same thing. But Jaison had as much trouble as Monica and more so than Nat. So I guess there was some fulcrum strategy that should have been used.
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19. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode 12 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I think those that were successful used their arms to raise themselves up a little higher on that tower before dropping onto the seesaw......
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13. "Back at the Beach"
Monica thinks she is going home.

Plants seeds about who RussHell is taking to the final three. Mick thinks about getting rid of RussHell.
Brett helping Monica discuss going for RussHell.

Mick and Jaison discuss who RussHell will take.

Monica planting seeds with RussHell about Jaison. Monica says she can make or break you on the jury. She is voting on need and says she's been told RussHell made a lot of money. RussHell blames Natalie. Also said Jaison was getting rid of RussHell and Jaison sees RussHell is mad at him.

Why would Monica say that? She wants to stay in the game, duh?

Now RussHell says she needs to be sent home. RussHell may play the idol as he's worried about Jaison.

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14. "Strong-arm tactics"
Monica says that she could make or break RussHell on the Jury if she gets sent there, especially next....... and mentions the salary secret that he told at least Mick.......
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15. "Tribal Two"
RussHell takes the idol out. Figures he will wear it.

Shambo says everything he does is a surprise. Other people, not so much.

Monica all happy about RussHell's tantrum and still stirring it up.

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16. "Da Votes"
RussHell doesn't play the idol around his neck.

Monica
Russell
Monica
Russhell
Monica
Monica

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17. "RE: Tribal Two"
I don't know if Monica screwed RusHell or RusHell screwed himself, but I think tonight is where he lost the game.

Too bad so sad.

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22. "RE: Tribal Two"
"RussHell takes the idol out. Figures he will wear it."

Great call there by Brownroach.

Still, IF and that's a big if, Jaison and Mick were about to vote out Russell and chickened out, they could have stayed with it because they knew Russell was voting Monica. Going with Brett is stupid so maybe Russell saved them from their own stupidity.

The correct move for Mick and Jaison was to vote out Shambo. Do like Cirie did in Panama and Rafe in Guatemala: Go goat hunting, eliminate Russell's options.

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12-11-09, 03:21 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Tribal Two"
Yes, great call Brownroach! I haven't been keeping up with all the threads this week so just went back and found your original post and you totally nailed it:

Suppose Russell whips out the hidden II before they all vote and announces that oh yes, make no mistake, he plans to play it after the vote, so vote for Russell at your own peril.

Then, to complete the bold move -- HE DOESN'T PLAY IT. And, lo and behold, he has gotten no votes.

It could be something like that, the "shocking performance by someone who fears he's on the chopping block." And the promo calls Russell the "master manipulator."

I do think all the Russell stuff comes after the first boot, and the big move is designed to work as a deterrent to Mick and Jaison, who Russell believes are gunning for him. What else would he need to make a big move for?

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24. "RE: Tribal Two"
That was a good call, BR. When I read it I thought how smart would it be for Russ come up with that ploy and actually do it. But I put it into the catagory of things that the viewing audience can come up with in the comfort of their Recliners, but that is difficult to see for someone living in their circumstances on the Island.

We've seen so many potential brilliant ploys that they never think of. This is another reason why Russ really stands out.

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29. "RE: Tribal Two"
Still, it wasn't as huge a deal as the promos made it out to be. Are people really going to remember that as "the boldest move ever made at a TC?" I don't think so.

The plot against Russell still seemed somewhat indefinite heading into TC, and I suspect that Jaison and Mick had already decided not to vote for Russell. Otherwise I think they would have edited it to be more dramatic.

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25. "Question"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-09 AT 11:06 AM (EST)

What was the actual time-frame of this episode? Here's what I saw on the screen.

Night 30
Return From TC
Logo
Commercial Break
Day 32
1st IC
Commercial Break
Day 31
Dave Voted Out
Commercial Break
Day 32
2nd IC
Commercial Break
Day 33
Monica Voted Out

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26. "RE: Question"
I think it's because they're competing with Lost and Flashforward.

Seriously, yes, I noted that also. The first Day 32 was probably a typo and that was day 31, Dave voted out the same day as the IC. Day 33 had a scene of them returning from IC if I remember so it must have been partly filmed on Day 32 and the vote was on day 33.

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27. "RE: Question"
In the Ponderosa clips, Dave says it's Day 31 when he's voted out and Monica says it's Day 33. (Of course they could be mixed up, but sounds about right with the condensed schedule).

So I guess that would mean Days 34/35/36 are this Thursday's episode and 37/38/39 the Finale.

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28. "RE: Question"
So there will be five left at the start of the finale assuming the next episode is a traditional three-day cycle. Day 34-36, traditional RC and IC and boot. Day 37, IC and boot. Day 38, Fallen Comrades, IC and boot. Day 39, Final Breakfast, Burning of Camp, Final Tribal.
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