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"Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Keep all discussion of tonight's reckoning on this thread until the West Coast sees the final words.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Reward Challenge Snidget 11-19-09 1
   RE: Reward Challenge Snidget 11-19-09 2
       RE: Reward Challenge SquidProQuo 11-19-09 3
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... vince3 11-19-09 4
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... jbug 11-20-09 44
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... vince3 11-19-09 5
   OMG, He did it again! SquidProQuo 11-19-09 8
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... vince3 11-19-09 9
       RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... michel 11-19-09 25
 Guess what Snidget 11-19-09 6
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... KuwabaraTheMan 11-19-09 7
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 10
       RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 11
 Immunity Challenge Snidget 11-19-09 12
   RE: Immunity Challenge Snidget 11-19-09 13
       RE: Immunity Challenge Loree 11-19-09 36
   RE: Immunity Challenge Snidget 11-19-09 14
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... vince3 11-19-09 15
 Day of Reckoning quote Snidget 11-19-09 16
   RE: Day of Reckoning quote SquidProQuo 11-19-09 17
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... vince3 11-19-09 18
 See John Snidget 11-19-09 19
 The (edited) tie rules: vince3 11-19-09 20
 Da Votes vince3 11-19-09 21
   RE: Da Votes gabygirl1 11-20-09 47
 Dave is Dumbfounded Snidget 11-19-09 22
   RE: Dave is Dumbfounded jbug 11-20-09 48
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... KuwabaraTheMan 11-19-09 23
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 27
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... vince3 11-19-09 24
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 26
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... CTgirl 11-19-09 28
       RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... PepeLePew13 11-19-09 29
       RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... michel 11-19-09 30
           RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... CTgirl 11-19-09 32
               RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 34
                   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... jbug 11-20-09 49
           RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 33
           RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-20-09 43
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... PepeLePew13 11-19-09 31
       RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 35
           RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... PepeLePew13 11-19-09 38
               RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... michel 11-20-09 39
                   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-20-09 41
                       RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... CTgirl 11-20-09 46
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 37
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... Slider 11-20-09 40
 RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... SquidProQuo 11-20-09 42
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... emydi 11-20-09 45
   RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East ... jbug 11-20-09 50

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1. "Reward Challenge "
One person in a cradle that collects flags and puts them in order.

Plane ride to a waterfall and a picnic. Take with a Palm Pre Product Placement Item.

Two teams of Five each.

John and Natalie are the cradle people, the other four per team on a rope so they can reach the flags.

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2. "RE: Reward Challenge "
Purple team wins reward
Dave Ball
Natalie
Laura
Russhell
Brett
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3. "RE: Reward Challenge "
Interesting, Dave Ball is the only one we see who goes up to FF after the last TC and tells them great move. At least he's playing the social game.

Shambo tells John she's flipped and asks him if he wants to be #6. He says he can't give her an answer right now. Will this be a dumb move or a smart move on her part?

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4. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Well, that means that the crossbow vidcaps belong wit the tile smashing vidcaps..... for Immunity

Probably crossbow to determine shots, and then most of their own broken wins..... or something like that.....

This is Natalie and RussHell's first food Rewards

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44. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Wasn't natalie's comment strange?
"Thank you for allowing me & Russell to come on the reward" ???
really?
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5. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Jaison/Mick is trying to swing Monica.....

The Palm had the HII had both a video and text clue:

It's under a moss-covered rock....... and RussHell tells Mick/Jaison.

THE SEARCH IS ON!

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8. "OMG, He did it again!"
Unbelievable, 3 HIIs and the game still isn't over.
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9. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
RussHell had Dave on his trail, and shook him. He then doubled back to where he suspected the HII hiding rock was, and what do you know, he found another one!

I think the image of Russ with something similarly wrapped, hiding it in a tree might be him stashing the thing for later use......

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25. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Doubling back to get rid of Dave: THAT was smart!
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6. "Guess what"
Someone found the idol, but they needed a clue this time.

And it is RussHell.

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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7. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Russell did it again. Wow.
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10. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Interesting:

While the others were on reward, Jaison and Mick work on Monica to flip. They let her know that she'd be #6 -- she seems suprised, but then she says she wants John out, and Jaison says that could be arranged.

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11. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
So I wonder if this shopping around for a #6 is pre-arranged by RussHell...or is this freelancing on Shambo's part? And Mick/Jaison.
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12. "Immunity Challenge"
Break tiles to win spears.
Shoot spears at target for immunity.
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13. "RE: Immunity Challenge"
Jaison gets a spear
Dave Ball gets Monica a spear
Mick gets a spear
Brett breaks two of his tiles.
Laura only person left, and she misses.
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36. "RE: Immunity Challenge"

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>Laura only person left, and she
>misses.


This is when Shambo quits hiding her feelings from her former Galu tribe. Shamho breaks into the largest grin when she knows Laura can't win Immunity and can finally be voted out.

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14. "RE: Immunity Challenge"
Brett up first Aims spear with crossbow thing. ON the board.
Jaison misses target
Monica bounces off target
Mick inside of Brett, sets the mark
Brett gets the final shot Too low

Mick wins individual immunity.

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15. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
IC: One rock to throw at tiles. Each tile broken grants you a spear. Spears are needed for the 2nd half using the crossbow-ish launcher.

Laura, RussHell, Shambo, John, Natalie, and Dave got skunked.

Brett has two spears, Jaison, Mick, and Monica (via an errant shot by Dave) each have one.

Mick wins the immunity challenge.

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16. "Day of Reckoning quote"
Said by Shambo about Laura
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17. "RE: Day of Reckoning quote"
That was a great scene at IC when Laura was the last one to throw her rock...they realy edited it to play up the drama. She misses, Jeff says "That's it - no shot at immunity," then Shambo cracks up laughing and high fives someone (I think Russell).

I also liked the earlier shot where Shambo was saying how they have to slay the beast (Laura), then they cut to a close-up of someone chopping a coconut with a huge knife.

I think they pretty much just confirmed who flips, since the commercial asks us to vote for 1 of 3 players for the "Player of the Week" and the options are RussHell, Mick and John.

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18. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 11-19-09 AT 09:48 PM (EST)

Shambo is telling Brett, I believe, that she is locked on voting on Laura.....

John is getting frustrated by the rest of his tribe......... Telegraph move to vote out RussHell, tick off Shambo, vote off Erik: YOU'RE AN IDIOT!

Monica is trying to convince the Foa's to vote for John, hoping the vote goes 5 for Natalie (avoiding a possible RussHell HII again), 4 for John (by getting faked out....), 1 for Laura (obviously Shambo's)

John complains that the newest plan to save Laura is to send 4 votes his way? Uhh, no. Not for me. John is not gonna be Laura's shield....

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19. "See John "
See John be put up as the sacrificial lamb.
See Galu count four votes for John.
See John not want to be the one betting his life.

John thinks there should be two five five ties and hope he doesn't get the purple rock and it goes to a Foa Foa.

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20. "The (edited) tie rules:"
If the vote is tied, those not tied re-vote.

If tied again, those not tied (and not IC winner) pick a rock, and pray you have the same color as someone else......

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21. "Da Votes"
Anyone want to play an Idol? No.

Laura
Natalie
Laura
Natalie
Laura
Natalie (all Nat, so far)
Laura
Natalie
Laura (Shambo's writing)
Natalie

Jury is wanting popcorn.......

Round 2: Must vote for either Laura or Natalie.

Laura
Natalie
Laura
Natalie
Laura
Natalie
Laura
Laura! (Galus are shocked, Shambo and RussHell are loving it as is Erik in the Jury Box!)

Let's review: Old FF+Shambo is now up at least 5-4, maybe 6-3 and RussHell has a HII in his back pocket!

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47. "RE: Da Votes"
How intense was that elimination? Haha, and the looks on the Galu members’ faces were priceless.

Thought you guys would like to know that Laura will be online today and taking your questions. You can join the live chat at 3:30pm ET/12:30pm PT and get some serious inside scoop.http://bit.ly/p71C8

See you there!
-Gaby (for Fancast)

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22. "Dave is Dumbfounded"
Because someone on Galu wasn't going to risk the rock and votes with Foa Foa/Shambo to get Laura out.
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48. "RE: Dave is Dumbfounded"
Times like this, I wish after the evicted is sent home, I wish they'd have those left pull the rocks out just to see who the bad rock might have fallen to........
I like to see the "what ifs"
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23. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Big power play by John. Now to see if Russell will stay true to his word or not.

Dave, Monica and Brett's reactions were priceless. And Erik is giving the best jury reactions since Sarge and Chad celebrating Lee-Ann's ouster in Vanuatu.

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27. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Yes, I love Erik's quotes and reactions. This is the most "speaking" time I've ever seen given to a juror...and they even put his finals words -- "there goes the lead" -- up on screen.

There was definitely a bit of redemption for Erik tonight....first with John saying that voting Erik out in a last minute decision was stupid, then Shambo saying to Jeff at TC that as far as she was concerned, the Galu tribe was dead when they voted Erik out. (And of course Laura disagreed.)

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24. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
RussHell becomes Captain Chaos! He will set that last chicken free, and Shambo leads the troops to get rid of someone that is described as a "cancer" (RussHell, or someone else?)
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26. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Very, very interesting that for the first time ever, as far as we were shown, Russell didn't tell anyone that he found the HII. And he didn't give it to Natalie as far as we know.

Russell played it smart when Monica came to him with the "backup" plan to vote out John -- he went and told John.

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28. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
I would not be surprised to see another idol bounce next week!

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29. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 11-19-09 AT 10:44 PM (EST)

I would - Foa Foa has the numbers in their favour now, 5-4. As long as Shambo stays with them, it doesn't matter what the four Galus do as the FFs have a clear road to the final episode.

There's no reason for RussHell's idol to have an impact on the remaining episodes, except maybe for F5 to protect himself from a 3-2 vote if Shambo acts as a swing vote.

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30. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Even with Foa Foa now up 6-3? (It feels strange writting this)
Unless you mean Shambo is targeting Russell as the cancer?
I think that she means Monica, especially if John tells them it was Monica's plan to fool Foa Foa and isolate Shambo.

Squid: Wasn't it John who went to Russell to see what was up?

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32. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
You are right. I assumed they were targeting Russell without thinking much about everything. So perhaps we can assume that the "average" viewer thinks that he will be targeted instead of Monica.
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34. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Yes, I think they definitely want the viewer to think that it's Russell being targeted...especially when Shambo goes to Mick and Jaison to get their blessing on the plan.

Mick and Jaison are finally getting a little more editing time and we even had a couple strategy confessionals from Mick...but it's still the RussHell and Nat show. Russhell was the narrator for a lot of the show tonight, but Natalie had some good narrator time on the reward. I think the challenge was also a "starring" role for Natalie.

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49. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
"starring role" ? LOL
If Kingfish had written that I'd think that referred to her trying to keep the girls tucked in while she was hanging off that swing
Didn't I even hear someone yell out "watch the girls" ???
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33. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Michel, regarding whether John went up to Russell or vice versa:

I had to leave the room a couple times, so I think I missed part of it. But I know for sure that earlier when Mick/Jaison were telling Russell about the new development with Monica and the possibility of voting out John instead, Russell was the one to say that he's planning to go to John and let him know what's up. Then I don't recall if it was immediately afterwards, or if there was another scene inserted in between, but the next thing was that John and Russell were talking about it.

Brett was the one to clue John in on the Monica plan....so yes, John already knew by the time he talked to Russell....but it still was a "courtesy" (and a trust-building thing, if you can ever call it that with Russell--ha!) on R's part to let J know.

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43. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Michel, I just rewatched that part of the episode -- here's the clip: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=UIXqI7ndvZ1Wrc8rIUX1yLBaJJJ3soXD&vs=Default&play=true

As I recall you're in Canada and can't see the clips...so here's how it plays out -- whether it was time manipulation, it's hard to tell:
- Russell tells Jaison that "the only way for this to work, we need to let John know (about Monica's plan)."
- Then there's a cut to Brett and John talking, and Brett fills John in on Monica's plan. (John is not happy.)
-- Then Dave comes by and D and B try to convince John that he should be willing to go along with the plan.
-- Then there's a John confessional saying it's a stupid plan and he's not going to go down for Laura's sake.
-- Then there's a cut to John and Russell...can't really tell for sure who's approached who, but the implication is that Russell has sought out John. John askes, "So what have you heard?" and Russell tells him "I want to let you know...." and then he says "I believe we're about to be swindled." Then he explains to John that he thinks there will be a tie, etc. and that's when John asks "what about next vote" and R makes a deal to vote out an FF next time (but John says he knows it's BS).

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31. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
>Very, very interesting that for the
>first time ever, as far
>as we were shown, Russell
>didn't tell anyone that he
>found the HII. And he
>didn't give it to Natalie
>as far as we know.

I think he did tell the others. They must have known he had the idol so the Galus directed their votes to Natalie instead. I think the editors wanted to build a little suspense, making the average viewer think that Galu would go for RussHell if they didn't show him telling others on TV, and ta da, surprise, they're voting for Natalie.

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35. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 11-19-09 AT 11:18 PM (EST)

Yes, in hindsight you're probably right Pepe. They just wanted to leave some doubt for the viewers. Although you never know with Russell!

Also, did I miss it, or did they not show the infamous hammock scene where Russell says he KNOWS he didn't need immunity tonight??? I recall a couple hammock shots/confessionals, but not the quote that was in the promo...although I did have to leave the room a couple times. I'm going to have to rewatch it tomorrow.

For me, this was a good episode but not great. I think the prior 2 TCs were a lot better. I was really hoping to see the 2 min. pow-wow in between votes...did they not do it? Or did they just edit it out? Maybe it was boring, but I was hoping for some negotiating and deals.

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38. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
I don't recall seeing the hammock scene, either.
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39. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
I think two arrogant Russell quotes were left out. Besides the hammock one, I don't recall the: "I'm 10 times smarter than her". I'll have to rewatch but this was a great "Russell for the win" episode.

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41. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Michel, are you keeping track of how many $1 million quotes RussHell has? He definitely had one tonight...and it seems to me that he's been having one just about every episode.
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46. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
To me, those million dollar quotes all relate back to the premiere when Russell boasted that he was going to show how "easy" it is to win Survivor and the million dollars. Doesn't mean he actually does it!

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37. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
The scene where Shambo told Brett she was voting Laura was very interesting. There was special music and it was a bit poignant...I guess they do have a close relationship.

I thought Shambo's quote to Brett in that scene was interesting too: "There is no more Galu." For some reason there's this childlike, naive quality to Brett....it was kinda like she was telling him there was no Santa Claus!

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40. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
Maybe it's just me, but I think the "Next Time, On Survivor" was edited. I slowed it on DVR several times, and when the camera is on Shambo, it looks like you see a bit of Jaison's arm (Not Dave). Also, you never see her and the men in the same frame.

Also, I thought next week was a recap?

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42. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 11-20-09 AT 02:35 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 11-20-09 AT 02:04 AM (EST)

I was just reading Trixiego's play by play over at Sucks since I missed part of tonight's episode, and I thought this was interesting -- it was John who 1st mentioned Natalie (vs. RussHell) as the boot target (see below). It appears he was not aware that RussHell has the HII, and this is way before Monica comes up with the "vote John" plan.

P.S. Dave jumps on board in a second...I guess that's his way to make rash decisions:

John: What's up
Dave: We were talking
L: Get rid of FF, keep it simple, we vote Russ, if he has idol, flushes it out
John: Answer is Natalie, vote is Natalie

ETA: John said they should vote for Natalie because she's the least likely to have the HII because she didn't even bother to look for it.
D: Okay I like that, I'll burn her right now
John conf: Bordering on annoying how pathetic the analytical skills of Galu are, let's telegraph a move to Russ, ##### off shambo, vote off Erik in 30 second decision, you are idiot

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45. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
I was thinking the same thing...Dave is a twit and John is the only one with a brain on Galu...actually Monica tries but she can't pull things off she's not persuasive or trustworthy enough (esp about Laura)

I really liked John in last night's show. I hope he stays around for a few more eps. Oh no I just jinxed him.

imho I don't think Russhell told anyone about the HII...John said to vote Nat (like Monica said last week). A week late and $1 Million dollars short.

But wow finding a third one...it was smart to double back on Dave. But if Russhell uses it and they put it back in circulation...ugh enough is enough, right BR?!?

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50. "RE: Survivor #19 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread "
D: Okay I like that, I'll burn her right now Bro
You forgot that part LOL
The tone of his voice was hilarious!
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