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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-18-09, 09:46 PM (EST) "RTVW (and other) interviews" Sometimes there is some spoiler info in these so lets see if we can figure anything out from what they say (or don't say)   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    Marisa RTVW interview Snidget 09-18-09 1    RE: Marisa RTVW interview PepeLePew13 09-18-09 2    RE: Marisa RTVW interview Outfrontgirl 09-18-09 3  Betsy Snidget 09-25-09 4    Joint Interview with Betsy and Mike SquidProQuo 09-25-09 5  Mike Snidget 09-26-09 6    Ben SquidProQuo 10-02-09 7  Ben. Estee 10-02-09 8    RE: Ben. SquidProQuo 10-02-09 9        RE: Ben. CTgirl 10-02-09 10            Ben says he made a fake immunity id... SquidProQuo 10-03-09 11                RE: Ben says he made a fake immunit... Outfrontgirl 10-03-09 12                    RE: Ben says he made a fake immunit... emydi 10-03-09 13                        RE: Ben says he made a fake immunit... Outfrontgirl 10-03-09 14                            RE: Ben says he made a fake immunit... Flowerpower 10-04-09 15                                RE: Ben says he made a fake immunit... michel 10-04-09 16                                    RE: Ben says he made a fake immunit... Outfrontgirl 10-05-09 32                                RE: Ben says he made a fake immunit... SquidProQuo 10-05-09 17                                    RE: Ben says he made a fake immunit... Brownroach 10-05-09 18                Transcript dabo 10-05-09 19                    RE: Transcript SquidProQuo 10-05-09 20                        RE: Transcript dabo 10-05-09 21                            RE: Transcript emydi 10-05-09 22                                RE: Transcript SquidProQuo 10-05-09 23                                    RE: Transcript emydi 10-05-09 24                                        RE: Transcript SquidProQuo 10-05-09 25                                            RE: Transcript emydi 10-05-09 26                                                RE: Transcript SquidProQuo 10-05-09 27                                                    RE: Transcript SquidProQuo 10-05-09 28                                                        RE: Transcript emydi 10-05-09 29                                                    RE: Transcript Outfrontgirl 10-05-09 31                                                        RE: Transcript SquidProQuo 10-05-09 33                                        RE: Transcript michel 10-05-09 30                                            RE: Transcript SquidProQuo 10-05-09 34  Yasmin RNO interview SquidProQuo 10-09-09 35    RE: Yasmin RNO interview jbug 10-09-09 36    RE: Yasmin RNO interview vince3 10-09-09 37    RE: Yasmin RNO interview Outfrontgirl 10-09-09 38        RE: Yasmin RNO interview Brownroach 10-09-09 39        RE: Yasmin RNO interview SquidProQuo 10-09-09 40            Yasmin TV Guide interview SquidProQuo 10-09-09 41    RE: Yasmin RNO interview Outfrontgirl 10-13-09 46        RE: Yasmin RNO interview michel 10-13-09 47            RE: Yasmin RNO interview Outfrontgirl 10-14-09 48                RE: Yasmin RNO interview frisky 10-14-09 49  Yasmin interview -- Survivor Fans P... SquidProQuo 10-09-09 42    Yasmin interview -- Reality TV Wor... SquidProQuo 10-09-09 43    RE: Yasmin interview -- Survivor Fa... michel 10-12-09 44        RE: Yasmin interview -- Survivor Fa... SquidProQuo 10-12-09 45  RussSwell RNO interview SquidProQuo 10-23-09 50  Russell S. RTVW Interview Snidget 10-23-09 51    RE: Russell S. RTVW Interview Georjanna 10-23-09 52        RE: Russell S. RTVW Interview SquidProQuo 10-24-09 54    RE: Russell S. RTVW Interview SquidProQuo 10-23-09 53        RE: Russell S. RTVW Interview michel 10-25-09 55  Liz post-game interview with ZapIt SquidProQuo 10-30-09 56  Liz RTVW interview Snidget 10-30-09 57    RE: Liz RTVW interview PepeLePew13 10-30-09 58        RE: Liz RTVW interview Georjanna 10-30-09 59            RE: Liz RTVW interview SquidProQuo 10-30-09 60                RE: Liz RTVW interview flystorms 10-31-09 61                    RE: Liz RTVW interview SquidProQuo 11-01-09 62                        RE: Liz RTVW interview michel 11-01-09 63                        RE: Liz RTVW interview Outfrontgirl 11-01-09 64  Erik RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-06-09 65    RE: Erik RNO interview Brownroach 11-06-09 66        RE: Erik RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-06-09 67            RE: Erik RNO interview Brownroach 11-06-09 70                RE: Erik RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-08-09 71  Erik RTVW Snidget 11-06-09 68    Finally we find out for sure Brownroach 11-06-09 69  Here are 3 Kelly post-game intervie... SquidProQuo 11-13-09 72    RE: Here are 3 Kelly post-game inte... CTgirl 11-14-09 76        RE: Here are 3 Kelly post-game inte... Outfrontgirl 11-14-09 77            RE: Here are 3 Kelly post-game inte... Karchita 11-14-09 78                RE: Here are 3 Kelly post-game inte... SquidProQuo 11-14-09 80  Kelly RTVW interview Snidget 11-13-09 73    RE: Kelly RTVW interview SquidProQuo 11-13-09 74        RE: Kelly RTVW interview Outfrontgirl 11-13-09 75        RE: Kelly RTVW interview Karchita 11-14-09 79            Kelly interview with People magazin... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 81                RE: Kelly interview with People mag... emydi 11-19-09 82                    RE: Kelly interview with People mag... SquidProQuo 11-19-09 83                        RE: Kelly interview with People mag... SquidProQuo 11-20-09 84  Laura RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-20-09 85    RE: Laura RNO interview blueahh 11-20-09 86        RE: Laura RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-20-09 87    RE: Laura RNO interview Brownroach 11-20-09 88        RE: Laura RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-20-09 89            RE: Laura RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-20-09 90            RE: Laura RNO interview vince3 11-20-09 91                RE: Laura RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-20-09 92                    RE: Laura RNO interview Outfrontgirl 11-21-09 93                        RE: Laura RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-21-09 94                            RE: Laura RNO interview SquidProQuo 11-21-09 96                    RTVW Interview CTgirl 11-21-09 95  John's post-game interviews JC222 12-04-09 97    RE: John's post-game interviews JC222 12-05-09 98        RE: John's post-game interviews JC222 12-05-09 99            RE: John's post-game interviews emydi 12-05-09 101        RE: John's post-game interviews emydi 12-05-09 100            RE: John's post-game interviews JC222 12-05-09 102                RE: John's post-game interviews emydi 12-05-09 103                    RE: John's post-game interviews JC222 12-05-09 104                RE: John's post-game interviews CTgirl 12-05-09 105                    RE: John's post-game interviews JC222 12-05-09 106                        RE: John's post-game interviews Flowerpower 12-05-09 107                    RE: John's post-game interviews Outfrontgirl 12-05-09 108                        RE: John's post-game interviews dabo 12-06-09 109                            RE: John's post-game interviews Outfrontgirl 12-06-09 110    RE: John's post-game interviews Outfrontgirl 12-11-09 113  Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews SquidProQuo 12-11-09 111    RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews SquidProQuo 12-11-09 112        RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews SquidProQuo 12-11-09 114            RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews blueahh 12-13-09 115        RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews emydi 12-14-09 116            RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews SquidProQuo 12-14-09 117  Monica's Zap It Interview SquidProQuo 12-14-09 118    Monica's RTVW (Blows) Interview dabo 12-14-09 119        RE: Monica's RTVW (Blows) Interview SquidProQuo 12-15-09 120  Sham. Estee 12-18-09 121  RussHell Interviews Snidget 12-21-09 122    RE: RussHell Interviews Estee 12-21-09 123    RE: RussHell Interviews Q 12-21-09 124    RE: RussHell Interviews Brownroach 12-21-09 125    RE: RussHell Interviews blueahh 12-21-09 129    RE: RussHell Interviews RTVW Snidget 12-21-09 130        RE: RussHell Interviews RTVW Estee 12-21-09 131  Jaison Interview Snidget 12-21-09 126  Mick Interview Snidget 12-21-09 127  Natalie Interview Snidget 12-21-09 128  Some Guy Named Brett Snidget 12-22-09 132

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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-18-09, 09:47 PM (EST) 1. "Marisa RTVW interview" http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-marisa-calihan-talks-about-her-survivor-samoa-ouster-9570.php   Top

PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-18-09, 10:28 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Marisa RTVW interview" Here's my take of these two comments from Marisa about Ben... Marisa: No. It happened before that. You really don't see a lot of Ben in this episode because they really wanted to introduce Russell but Ben is horrible. He's bossy. He bosses everyone around. He is a total misogynist. I think he's afraid of women because he treats women horribly. I'm just not the kind of woman who's going to let some pipsqueak boss me around. Period. I don't think that he deals with that very well. I don't think he deals with strong women at all. ... Marisa: As far as around camp, it was less of a leadership role and more of a dictator role because Ben was telling everybody what to do and how to do it at all times. I took to calling him "The Machete Man" because anytime anybody needed the machete to work on building a shelter or whatever, we'd be like "Where's the machete? Oh, Ben's got it and he's off in the woods somewhere with the machete." I'll be interested to see how his character plays out because he really was not a good guy. My interpretation is that Ben didn't go to Loser Lodge at all while Marisa was still there. She says she's interested in seeing how his character plays out, and she repeats the "think" word several times in speculating about Ben's character. I believe that there will be a couple more 'strong' women (at least) going to Loser Lodge pre-merge as they will have had a chance to compare Ben horror stories without him around. If Ben is booted in the next few episodes, she will have seen him in action in Loser Lodge and wouldn't be speculating as much about his character.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-18-09, 11:53 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Marisa RTVW interview" LAST EDITED ON 09-19-09 AT 00:06 AM (EST) Another excellent interview, SB! Psst, if you check this topic, Marisa is saying "wary" - not weary. She says wary in the episode; I replayed it to watch the post IC alliance shuffle. I took note of the alliance talk, explains why Mick and Betsy went with Ashley. ____________________ Marisa: Yes. I was in an actual alliance with Mick Trimming and I was in an actual alliance with Betsy Bolan. Marisa: I knew that Ashley was connected in some way with Ben and Russell. I knew that. That was part of the reason why Ashley was a target (for Betsy, Mick and myself), because we were trying to weaken that alliance. _____________ That alliance seen here in the "cheer" cap. Marisa: Mick I think was still on the fence about Russell. But Betsy was onto him. Betsy was like me. She saw through him and she didn't trust him. ____________________ Having rewatched the scheming section, I noted the following clumps. Returning from challenge, Ashley, worried, joins Russell, Liz, Natalie, and Russell says they have to make a decision. Liz is standing closer to Russ than I would care to. This group seems tight. Mike, as we saw, approaches Mick, who is down with voting Ashley, probably already on it. Betsy and Jaison join. Jaison appears to me to be floating around listening to what is said. He is not trying to direct. No objection to Ashley. Russ approaches Marisa, with Mike and Mick not far away. Mick is watching closely. Marisa says no and questions Russ. Russ goes to Betsy and says Marisa, and she makes a face showing this is not what she wants to hear. (now we know why.) Russ with Jaison, who is listening again, and they shake. Jaison looks around as if he doesn't want to be seen shaking hands with R. Russ tells Ben they are going to vote Marisa., and Ben says, great, I can't stand that b***ch. (nice) Russ, Ben, Ashley are happy. Russ scoops up Mike and tells him the drill. Mike says really? OK. (as long as it's not me guy). Betsy tries to talk to Natalie and Natalie isn't receptive. Betsy pulls back and keeps her reasons to herself. It looks to me like Russ, Ben, Ashley are indeed a core alliance, but Liz and Natalie think they are part of it. Jaison appears to be floating, and Mike is just trying to dodge bullets. Mick and Betsy are shown as isolated, although Mike did go to Mick and Jaison gave him an ear. Betsy gave Russ a little resistance, and she tried to talk to one of his DA girls. I wonder if Natalie tattles and that's what sets Russ off in Ep 2. I definitely think Betsy is his next target, and Mick is on the radar but he is needed in challenges. Marisa indicates that Mitch is on the fence about Russ, and Betsey is the one who has figured him out. Betsey is not so good at hiding her reactions. Lastly, I have no evidence that it occurred, but I wouldn't be surprised if Liz and Jaison connect as they have the educational background and a certain dignified demeanor. I cannot imagine Liz likes Russell, but for some reason she doesn't seem to be behind Mick. I hope it's not her being miffed at him for choosing her as the smart one. Maybe she's gravitating around the power player to stay safe.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-25-09, 07:34 PM (EST) 4. "Betsy" http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-betsy-bolan-talks-about-her-survivor-samoa-experience-9612.php   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 09-25-09, 08:45 PM (EST) 5. "Joint Interview with Betsy and Mike" http://fc-blogs.cim.comcast.net/blogs/tv-news/survivor-castaway-interview-mike-borassi-and-betsy-bolan/ Interesting that they both seem to like Ben...could that possibly mean they get to know Ben better at Losers Lodge??? Also, Mike says that he was fine within an hour of being at the clinic, but they wouldn't let him go back in the game.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-26-09, 03:34 PM (EST) 6. "Mike" http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-mike-borassi-talks-about-his-survivor-samoa-journey-9613.php   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-02-09, 03:09 PM (EST) 7. "Ben" He's still not apologizing: http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10656.art&page=1   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-02-09, 05:18 PM (EST) 8. "Ben." LAST EDITED ON 10-02-09 AT 05:21 PM (EST) 1. You're going to need an industrial-strength crap sorter. 2. I am not putting myself through that again. http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-ben-browning-talks-about-survivor-samoa-experience-9655.php The volunteer line to make his father's prediction comes true is at six miles and counting.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-02-09, 05:42 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Ben." Hard to tell what you can believe, but Ben says he knew that RussHell had the HII because RussHell showed it to him. This is also interesting -- sounds like Yasmin and Ben make up at LL: Reality TV World: Do you think you'll ever bury the hatchet with Yasmin or Jaison? Ben: Yasmin and I have already buried the hatchet. We're completely cool. I've talked to her. We joked around, we've hung out. It's totally cool.   Top

CTgirl 8013 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-02-09, 06:02 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Ben." It also sounds like he didn't spend any time with Jaison. Ben didn't mention having a chance to bury the hatchet with Jaison but later in the interview he said he had no hard feelings, it was just a game. Geez, another person discovered on the boardwalk in Venice, CA.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-03-09, 06:16 PM (EST) 11. "Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" Wow, I was just listening to the Survivor Fans podcast. Usually they don't any "news" beyond what's in the other interviews, but this week they have what could be a big bombshell: Ben says he knew Russell found the hidden immunity idol, and that he made a fake one and hid it. He said the tree was in a very obvious spot, so it was easy to find. He says Shambo did indeed find the fake HII, but here's the interesting part: Ashley told Shambo it was a fake! (Girl power foreshadowing???) Part of me takes anything Ben says with a grain of salt....and part of me says why wouldn't they have shown this if it really happened....BUT, if it is true, then perhaps they are waiting for this week for the "payoff." Maybe Shambo tries to make her tribe think she found the real idol to save herself...or maybe she uses the fake in some way to her advantage? If Shambo does tell the truth to her tribe, then everyone at Galu knows that Russell has the real thing. Dumb move on Ashley's part. (Of course, sounds like RussHell is dumb too because he's apparently told everyone on FaoFao he has it.) Here's the link -- definitely worth a listen: http://cdn1.libsyn.com/joannandstacy/SFP20091002_BenBrowning.mp3?nvb=20091003214614&nva=20091004215614&t=0560d3ae18d174b346908   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-03-09, 07:04 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" hey Squid, thanks a bunch for that. I would never have run across it on my own. Very good interview. Ben says Ashley told Shambo that it was Ben's fake, and it sounds to me like Ben saw enough to tell that the fake idol thing was blown, that Shambo went away knowing it was no good. Yes, REALLY dumb of Ashley. She's the one who supposedly knows all about Survivor, and Ben barely has seen the show, but he makes a fake idol to trick the other tribe, and she ruins the move. A few other things: The blondes don't care for Liz. That's good to know because we heard the girls were tight from Betsy. Personally I've been thinking Betsy meant the blondes, as Liz is not a girl. So there's a crack in the potential woman's alliance. I would think Liz might stay with the men if the tribe has to go back to TC, as she is not safe hanging with the blondes. Jaison is a whiner by rep, and we'll see more of that this coming episode per the preview. Jaison's edit is going south after his grand moment. Could he quit if conditions get tough, or ask to be voted out?   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-03-09, 07:10 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" I agree OFG....Liz is with RussHell...actually I think that it's the "alliance not shown" that succeeds in the end We've seen RussHell align with everyone else and I think Liz makes it very far (actually I have her winning n my PTTE) Also I agree about Jaison, Ben said he was a whiner in his interviews and we see it blatantly in the previews. You can't whine in Survivor but I know I'd have a tough time not doing so! I do not think he quits though. I agree that FoaF may not go back to IC until merge. When Galoot falls, they fall hard starting in Ep. 4. Jaison will have a big target on his back then. I think he makes it to early mid jury as Ben said nothing about Ben when he was asked by Webby if he had made up with Yasmin and Jaison...only Yasmin did he mention.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-03-09, 09:06 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" emy, I am behind Liz as well. That may sound strange because I did vote (last minute) for Liz this last week after being on board with the Ben boot all week. I was concerned that I was ignoring Liz' vulnerability because of my gut feeling that this dark horse goes far, as some others, a lot of others, think she doesn't last that long. Liz said she wouldn't want to do Survivor again (probably not), and in the past that's been said more by people who went the distance. Most early boots say they'd love another chance. Also she said people would have an idea how she did - maybe she was skinny and bugbitten. Wish there was a post game photo of her. Here's another thing from this Ben interview. He said it didn't matter whether Yasmin had shared the clue, because Russell had ALREADY found the idol. Now is Ben's memory affected by the editing, or is that how it happened in game? He also says Yasmin hung with Jaison, and could have shared the clue with him. He also thought the clue had an obvious answer - only this one big tree with a huge hole, right in camp. I think Russell probably did start looking after Yasmin arrived with a clue. That would tell him that there was an idol in play, very likely in their camp. I don't think Jaison would have shared the clue with him - why would he? Maybe Jaison was noncommital about searching because he had his own plans to look, but Russ pre-empted him.   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-04-09, 10:20 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" Great info in this thread! michel speculated, and I tend to agree, that Yasmin most likely shared her clue with Jaison, and Jaison shared it with RussHell, who then found it, ASAP. RussHell most likely told Ben that he found it prior to the clue, but why would Jaison assume that it could be his to use as well, if he hadn't had a stake in finding it...? I also agree that Yasmin most likely is an early boot and will get to make amends with Ben, while Jaison, most likely will go mid game. He's definately a whiner, and agreed, whining is a big NO NO in Survivor...Yasmin's a serious whiner. Regarding Liz, great info to know that she's not so tight with the blondes. I noted her as a significant one in the first show, but discounted it later when I thought she may be booted. Perhaps, too quickly. I'll just note that from the first show she indeed has the potential to be a serious player. What makes me curious is that we know that Yasmin shared the fact that there was a clue to a HII, she lied however and noted that it was in the sand, Shambo will come back and clear that up this week, and thus, members of the Galu tribe will be off and running to find it...namely Eric, and if RussHell could find it, why couldn't Eric? The only revelation that Shambo could share is that RussHell already has it, and that Yasmin was a liar...   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-04-09, 01:41 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" After doing the editing thread, I'm always behind in the interviews but I wanted to make a few comments: - About Ashley being dumb to tell Shambo about the fake idol, we'll have to see how it turns out but if she made an inter-tribe alliance, it wasn't dumb to tell Shambo. - Betsy had specifically mentioned not being able to crack the Liz-Natalie-Ashley trio. I'm not sure it still holds but Betsy was clear all 3 were close at the time. And about: "michel speculated, and I tend to agree, that Yasmin most likely shared her clue with Jaison, and Jaison shared it with RussHell, who then found it..." It's nice to know that I'm not alone. We'll probably never know for sure as contestants aren't allowed to talk about production decisions. That tree looked like an invitation in itself but we had the war paint shot of Ben and Jaison's limp. Maybe all it took was Russell seeing Yasmin looking at trees but it certainly didn't all happen before they received tree mail as was shown.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 05:38 PM (EST) 32. "RE: Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" LAST EDITED ON 10-05-09 AT 05:39 PM (EST) Just as an alternate POV - I read Betsy's comment differently: Betsy: I knew the girls were sticking together because I was definitely the outcast -- Elizabeth, Ashley and Natalie. I couldn't weasel my way into that. (laughing) I see it as - Betsy was older and she was isolated from the other women after Marisa went. She was on the boot list due to age and fitness. They young fit girls weren't going to join up with her, so she was the outcast. It really says nothing about how loyal Liz, Ashley, Natalie are to each other when push comes to shove. In fact, Betsy had little basis for figuring that out, as she didn't even get close. The three weren't going to protect her. They had her marked for sacrifice. But when the three are all potentially on the block, then how does it crack. As Ben said, the blondes don't trust Liz. Natalie and Ashley have some alliance in that Natalie refused to write Ashley's name down and defied RussHell on that. Liz is smart. I see her standing around with Mick, RussHell, She's social with the girls but she is working other angles. Ashley must really be lazy. Betsy, Ben say so. Mick was wanting to boot her first. I could see Natalie lasting until later. She will not be a big target if she makes the merge, as we know. She may never do much but still last a long time. Ashley has a lot of story already, so if she's not in the finals, then I think she is in trouble before the merge.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-05-09, 09:23 AM (EST) 17. "RE: Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" Regarding whether Eric can easily find the HII: Are the clues the same for each tribe? My guess would be that they are different....so maybe the clues that Shambu brings back don't work on the other beach? Which would explain why they haven't found it yet, assuming they haven't. Also, now that this week won't be a combined RC/IC, it will be interesting to see when the visitor goes over to the other tribe -- i.e. will it be after Reward? Or after IC? There's less time after IC, but I would assume that's the better time since you get to listen in on Tribal Council. If RussHell is indeed the visitor this week, it would be unbelievable if he finds the HII on the Galu beach too.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 12:05 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Ben says he made a fake immunity idol & Shambo found it!" The idols are not in identical places at the camps, and there are two separate sets of clues, according to JP. A tribe glows in Brooklyn   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 01:08 PM (EST) 19. "Transcript" Cleaned up, no um's or uhs. Q: How were you chosen to be on Survivor? Ben: I was walking down the boardwalk in Venice, CA and I was approached. Q: Were you a fan of the show? Ben: I had seen it a few times but I don't really watch TV, I'm a pretty active guy from outdoors most of the time. I didn't really watch it most of the time but when I had the opportunity to do it I jumped at the chance. Q: So, what did you do to get yourself ready, and how much time did you have? Ben: It was about six weeks. I basically ate a lot because I thought I would be out there for a long time. I tried to fatten up as much as possible. Q: Did you do anything to get yourself ready physically, r did you just come out there with your mad fire-starting skills? Ben: I grew up in the country, my whole life I've been hunting, fishing, camping, all that. That just comes as second nature to me. I really had no no problem building the shelter. I did most of the stuff around camp, building the shelter, getting the water, getting most of the food, a lot of the stuff you didn't see. I caught a wild chicken. I provided a lot of the stuff for the camp. It just wasn't enough, I guess my strategy was all wrong, I should have played the social game more than the survival game. Q: You mentioned you didn't sleep for 5 r 6 days, how did that affect you in the game? Ben: I don't think anybody really sleeps that well out there. I was up every night tending the fire. The one night that they showed I was chopping wood and everybody was like "What you doing?" I was picking up their slack, nobody had gathered firewood. In the jungle everything is pretty wet so when you get some dry wood, it's usually something that has washed up on the ocean, you've got to drag it a long ways and then cut it up. You can't stick a big tree in the fire, it just doesn't work. Q: Did you have any idea how much you were upsetting them by doing that? Ben: No. That's the thing, everybody's so passive-aggressive on the show, I was really the only one who was direct with people. I guess that was my downfall. The game should be called Backstabber not Survivor. Laughter. Q: So, we want you to give your assessment of each of your tribemates and how you think they are playing the game. Ashley? Ben: I don't think she's playing at all, she's just sitting around waiting to be eliminated. She does not do anything around camp. The one challenge she did do well in was the water challenge, I thought she did well at that. But she's n idiot, all she did was talk about her parents. Every other sentence out of her mouth was about her parents, this girl is twelve-years old. Q: How about Liz? Ben: Liz is smart but the other girls didn't like her for some reason. I don't know if she came off as smart-alecky toward them or whatever, but there was a lot of talk amongst the girls they didn't like her. I like Liz fine enough, I thought she was alright. Q: Natalie? Ben: Natalie is a sweetheart, she is probably one of the sweetest people you would ever meet. She's a good down-home Arkansas southern belle. She's a sweetheart, I don't have anything bad to say about her. Q: Was she helping in camp at all? Ben: Natalie was very appreciative, anything I'd do she was "Thank you so much." I'd get those girls food every day, I would get their water, I gave them my jeans so they could sleep in when they'd get cold. I did a lot for the girls that they don't show. That's alright. (Laughs.) Q: Mick? Ben: Mick wasn't a very good leader, he just didn't know what he was doing, he wasn't assertive, he didn't take any kind of leadership role. The closest thing to being a leader Mick did was pick people for challenges, other than that he really didn't serve much of a purpose. Q: Your buddy Russell? Ben: Russell is the man, I hope Russell takes it all the way. Russell and I hung out more than anybody there, we were buddies. They're not showing a lot of that on the show, but Russell and I were really close. We laughed and made fun of everybody all the time. They were whining and crying, he and I were doing work, gathering food and firewood. As much as he's saying "I'm not here to work" he was working pretty hard. Q: Jaison? Ben: Jaison is a thinker but he over-thinks everything, and he's very very overly sensitive. He threw a lot of temper tantrums while we were out there. Q: More than we got to see? Ben: Way more. He would pout and whine and cry about just about everything. How miserable he was, he didn't want to be there, he couldn't take it that we were losing challenges, he was a really sore loser. Q: Who did you have an alliance with other than Russell? Ben: I had an alliance with Ashley and Natalie and Russell. Ashley kind of stabbed me in the back. It was kind of funny how they editted it, they made it look like Ashley made it up and Russell had nothing to do with it, that just wasn't the case. Q: Did Russell tell you that he had found the immunity idol? Ben: He did, he showed it to me right off. I actually made a fake immunity idol and we put it where the old one was, and Shambo found it. Q: Excellent. Wow. Good job. Ben: Ashley ran her mouth, "That's the one Ben made." You're an idiot, we've got someone from the other tribe, let them think that they have it. She spoiled the whole thing. They didn't show it. Q: Bummer. Did Yasmin tell anyone the clue that she got? Ben: If I would have had Yasmin's clue, it was so stupid, it was so indicative of where it was. If you had been in our camp there was one huge tree in the middle with a big huge hole in the bottom, she should have easily figured out that somebody already had it. Q: But as far as you know she didn't share with anyone else in your tribe? Ben: I think she was sharing with Jaison, they ran off together quite a little bit. Q: Were you surprised when you saw how Russell sabotaged the tribe in episode #1? Ben: It actually made me laugh, it was just so funny. I really wasn't surprised, he's a sinister guy, more power to him. He was playing everybody and everybody was dancing to the beat of his drum. Q: Did you see anything else that might have surprised you? Ben: I really wasn't surprised. You really don't know what's going on behind but you got to think the worst about everybody. Q: So, what was it like eating those lizards? They looked kind of gross. Ben: They weren't bad, they taste a lot like fish. White fish. They're pretty tasty. There's not much meat on them but you have to eat what you can out there. Q: So nobody was able to catch fish or anything? Ben: We didn't have fishing gear. I caught a chicken, I caught crabs every day, we ate pretty well. Bananas, bundles of plantains, papalla, I found a whole bushel of lime, I brought all of that stuff back every day. I kept everybody pretty well fed. Q: They show an extra video of you catching the chicken. Ben: They did show a video of it? Q: It's one of the excerpts. Ben: It was funny, I was like "God, please give me the opportunity to get some animal, a bird, anything." I had gotten so close a couple of times throwing rocks at birds. Throughout my life I've been really good at catching and hunting and stuff. I was walking to get water one day and I saw this little chicken, head in a coconut, and I just pounced on it. Q: So, let's switch gears, how did you feel about being the first person in Survivor history to get kicked out of a challenge? Ben: As you guys saw there was a lot of cheap shots going on in that game. What I did wasn't near as bad as hat a lof of people were doing. There was body slams, there was all kinds of stuff. All I did was kick somebody's feet out from underneith him. Beforehand, I had met with Probst and everybody, I have a history of getting in a few fistsights, so they kind of singled me out. "Ben, you can't hit anybody, you can't hit anybody." I'm 29 years old, the last thing I'm going to do is punch somebody in the face. But I got singled out for it, it is what it is. You can call me the bad boy, whatever, if it had been a real fight I'd have fought a lot dirtier than that. Q: Did you have any idea going into Tribal Counsel that you might be voted off? Ben: Yeah, I had a pretty good idea. I had a talk with Mick and Russell, Russell seemed pretty put out. Just from the conversation we had I was pretty sure I was on my way. Q: Natalie, she mentioned she was scared that you two were about to come to blows. Did you think it was coming that close? Ben: No. I think Jaison is full of a lot of hot air. That was the funny thing, he would never single me out and say anything until we were all there in front of Probst, in Tribal Counsel.. He was very intimidated by me in camp, which was just funny. It was funny to see how weak-minded a lot of the people were, they would just stand there like little dogs with tails between their legs. You know, it was funny. Was I worried about Jaison? Absolutely not. What they didn't show in the shmorgenball(?), he gets taken down by John from Galu and John keeps him down on the ground pretty much the whole time. He just cried afterwards, he blew up, "I'm coming to get you, John, I coming to get you, John." We were all laughing because he was throwing a big temper tantrum. He's a sore loser. Q: Let's go to a little tougher subject. Looking back, would you change any of the things that you said to Yasmin? Ben: I wouldn't change anything. I guess I should say I would change some stuff because it didn't work out so well for me. In the game it didn't help me progress. But I think a lot of the stuff was misinterpretted. Yasmin was saying: "I'm from the hood, this ain't the hood this is the woods, this ain't the ghetto." She kept saying all of that stuff. But when I say she's "ghetto trash" because she was acting trashy, all of a sudden the race card gets pulled. She and I actually had a converation, she said "I'm racist as all get-out, black people is most racist!" You can't just say black people as a whole are racist, but she says, "They are, they are, they're the most racist." I was just laughing about it because it is just such a reversal of racism. It's funny. If she says she's from the hood, she's from the ghetto, and then I say it, all of a sudden I'm a racist. That's not the case. Anybody that knows me, they all laughed about it. Of course I was trying to push her buttons. But if she had been white from the ghetto and I had called her ghetto trash, she was talking like that, would I still be a racist? Q: Right. Was there anything else you wish had been shown about you? Ben: You know what, it's funny the way they edit it for TV, I think I filled the role of the bad boy. Basically, they didn't show all of the stuff that I did, I don't know. Q: You're okay for the most part with the edit? Ben: Yeah, it is what it is. It's done, it's shown, I really do not care what people think about me. It's actually quite liberating to live that way. Most people are way too concerned and try to play like a politician's view, how people look at it. I just hate that. Nobody's perfect, everybody's got skeletons in their closet, somebody 's bound to judge you about something, I just don't care. I don't judge people, I certainly don't care what people think about me, my friends and family know who I am and that's all that matters to me. Q: Did you make any friendships that you want to continue outside the game? Ben: Yeah, Russell and I, we're buddies. Q: What are you doing now? Ben: I'm in Los Angeles, I just got hired to redo a bar in Santa Monica. Hopefully next year I'll be opening up my own place.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-05-09, 01:46 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Transcript" The transcript is really helpful Dabo -- thanks so much for taking the time to do this! One thing I noticed from the transcript that hasn't already been commented on: Ben says that Ashley is "just sitting around waiting to be eliminated." I know he hates her, but I can't imagine he'd say this if he knew she made the jury and/or wasn't going to be booted soon. This comment leads me to believe that Ashley is the next to go on FF, the next time they go to TC. Plus we already know that RussHell wants Ashley out too. (Of course this is assuming there is no swap soon.)   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 03:00 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Transcript" Ashley may not be contributing in camp but that doesn't mean she didn't build some alliances, isn't playing the game. And: I don't know why Russ fixated on Ashley as vote magnet, but so far she has managed to dodge the bullet. Still, I agree, she is wearing a bull's-eye, somehow, so it is just a matter of time. Ben didn't give much away, really, but I'm getting a jist that Liz and Natalie are working together.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 03:08 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Transcript" I think based on everthing we know and the new spoiler about the canceled RC in Ep 6 on Oct 22, that FoaF may not return to TC as a tribe (unless there's a double boot with each tribe going to TC). If they do go to TC I think Natalie is more in trouble based on editing and her lack of confessionals and no other shown game play besides her being equivocal when RussHell asked her about the Betsy TC   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-05-09, 03:20 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Transcript" I personally like Ashley better and wish she'd stick around, but I do think Natalie has better chances right now, based on the following: -- She seems to be in RussHell's good graces (vs. Ashley) -- Jeff seems to be going out of his way in his blog to show how she's really playing the game -- Looks like she might be key to FF's IC win in this episode -- I read somewhere that she was an alternate for S20...not sure if it's true or not, but can't imagine how the heck she'd get to be an alternate unless she went pretty far in 19   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 03:36 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Transcript" did you read the alt S20 over in sucks? If it's the case, why are they hiding her? michel, has anyone been so hidden in a tribe that went to TC early so often that did well...what about Susie in Gabon?   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-05-09, 03:41 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Transcript" I can't remember where I read it -- I will try to dig it up when I get home tonight. As someone posted earlier, I get the feeling that both Liz and Natalie are being "hidden" for a reason, kinda like Tina -- i.e. not wanting to totally expose all the alliances so early.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 03:47 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Transcript" You may be right....I think Natalie is more hidden than Liz...she at least has had some conf...where is Corvis when we need him!! Also, Natalie and RussHell's alliance was shown...I think Liz and RussHell may have one too which is the one that will succeed...but Natalie can be a part of it.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-05-09, 04:05 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Transcript" OK, found it. I was skimming the S20 Sucks thread late one night this weekend, because my son and I have been watching Survivor together since he was a baby and now it's the 10th anniv. (and he's turning 11) and I'm hoping to take him to the Finale show. Someone over there called Missyae posted this....she evidently has a ton of spoilers....not sure if they are all true, but it appears that TDT believes her because he quotes her on his S20 Spoilameter: From Missyae at Sucks; I can also tell you the info about Jenna Morasca being in Samoa on set doing pre show interviews is wrong. Jenna did the pre show interviews at CBS studios in California before all the players left for Samoa and she did not go. Also Natalie was an alternate and she knew this the entire process. The producers were afraid Courtney Yates was too unhealthy to play again give how tiny she was. However she did play and Natalie fully understood she was an alternate. P.S. Looks like Missyae is now giving out spoilers for S19 too. Running to a meeting so don't have time to read them until late tonight, but you might want to check it out.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-05-09, 04:10 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Transcript" Forgot to say, I suppose there could be another Natalie from an earlier season that I've forgotten about....but I assumed it was Natalie from S19.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 04:13 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Transcript" LAST EDITED ON 10-05-09 AT 04:16 PM (EST) squid from what I remember that's Natalie that awful black widow from Fans and Faves The only other S19 that was rumored to be asked was Shambo   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 05:17 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Transcript" I'm confident that it's Natalie Bolton from Micronesia. She's been on the S20 list since Coby first started spoiling it. She filled a "female villain" slot with added bonus of lesbian/bisexual slot. She and Courtney Yates would both fill the bitchy female slot. If that's all there is, then no, Natalie from S19   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-05-09, 11:08 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Transcript" Oh my gosh (hits head), how could I have forgotten that Natalie? (Especially after her creepy questioning of Parv in the final TC.) Sorry, that's what happens when I skim quickly late at night and don't read carefully! But I still think that Ashley is more likely to go next vs. Natalie...unless Natalie makes a major screw-up. Also, I do plan to read all Missyae's spoilers over the next day or two to see if there's anything there worth bringing over here....have any of you checked them out yet?   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-05-09, 04:51 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Transcript" >michel, has anyone been so hidden >in a tribe that went >to TC early so often >that did well...what about Susie >in Gabon? Susie didn't get a confessional in the first 3 episodes. She was heard arguing with Michelle in the first TC, we saw Gillian telling her she would be next during episode #2 and she wasn't a factor in episode #3 but Fang didn't go to TC in that episode. I know this is spoilers so anything goes but can I make a request? If someone wants to post a season outcome spoiler for S19 and S20, could it have its own thread?   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-05-09, 11:10 PM (EST) 34. "RE: Transcript" Good idea. I haven't read the Missyae spoilers closely yet, so not sure if they are worth bringing over here or not.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-09-09, 02:01 PM (EST) 35. "Yasmin RNO interview" LAST EDITED ON 10-09-09 AT 02:12 PM (EST) http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10686.art&page=1 Oh no, she says this is not the last time we're going to see her face on TV!   Top

jbug 17146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-09-09, 02:26 PM (EST) 36. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" These are priceless! I was one of those girls in high school where I wasn’t a follower, I was a leader, and more than anything, I was a loner. Funny, I don't remember many leaders in my high school who were also loners. They didn’t show me and Brett going off to chop down trees for 30 minutes. I chopped down two trees. I went off with Kelly for at least 40 minutes looking for crabs. There! she worked for 70 minutes! How many days was she out there? I checked out of Survivor way before my torch was put out. When I left, you saw a smile.   Top

vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-09-09, 04:14 PM (EST) 37. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" Maybe, maybe not, but it's probably the last time on Survivor, though....... TAR is usually good for occasionally bringing in peeps from BB and Survivor....... so seeing there either there or into the Hamster Cage wouldn't surprise me......   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-09-09, 04:40 PM (EST) 38. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" Something about Galu dynamics: You have no idea what type of tribe I was in because I’m the first one from Galu you’ve talked to. The whole thing about my tribe was that they were all over the place. They went from John going home because he didn’t do right in that swim challenge, oh my God shambo is going home because she lost the fishing gear, … Dave … Monica … Yasmin – c’mon honey, give me a break. I was in that tribe, I like consistency. These people just sat around and anything you didn’t do that they didn’t like, oh my God, you’re going home. So Shambo didn't get a pass on the fishing gear. I wonder what Dave did. No talk about anti-chief rumblings. Lots of talk about Galu as a clique.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-09-09, 04:54 PM (EST) 39. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" After the fishing gear incident they showed Laura in confessional saying something to the effect that Shambo could get herself voted out. A tribe glows in Brooklyn   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-09-09, 05:12 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" LAST EDITED ON 10-09-09 AT 05:58 PM (EST) OFG, I was thinking the same thing when I read that about Dave possibly being on the chopping block. (Not at all surprised about the others.) Dave does mention something in some of the Insider clips about being happy that he won the RC for his tribe and trying to keep his composure in front of the tribe, so perhaps he has some self awareness that his name was being bandied about. Here's 1 of his quotes: "I can see people like, hmm, narrowing their eyes in my direction, but I don't know how much of that is real and how much is paranoia." I guess it could have been just a fleeting mention....seems like his position has risen in the tribe this past episode. And it seems like the editors like him and are using him as a narrator.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-09-09, 05:48 PM (EST) 41. " Yasmin TV Guide interview" http://www.tvguide.com/News/Survivors-Yasmin-Giles-1010688.aspx She calls the people on Galu babies and says the girls were cliquish...and Laura was "another whole story." (Wish the interview had followed up to ask her to explain about Laura!) This is also interesting, in part because she doesn't mention RussSwell: TVGuide.com: Who would you like to see make it to the end or who are you sure will make it to the end this season? Yasmin: I would like to see my good girl Shambo there. She actually was my only ally and they didn't show enough of us spending time together. Shambo was really outspoken and said weird things, so me and her were very much alike. They just let me go first even though Shambo lost the chicken.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-13-09, 11:15 PM (EST) 46. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" I saw this on Sucks and found the interview from Reality Wanted http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/2502-survivor-samoa-exclusive-interview-with-yasmin-giles Q. Gina, RealityWanted: If you could pull players from either tribe, who would you have wanted to work with? A. Yasmin: Russell S., Shambo, Marisa, Ashley, Jaison, Betsy… Nick was cool… and somebody else from my tribe would be… nobody. Yasmin doesn't seem like a well-coached interviewee to me, so I think this could be a good non-jury list. She never met Marisa in the game. Granted, she would like Jaison anyway. He stood up for her. What I find interesting is that of the young women she hung out with at Foa Foa on her visit, she picks Ashley and omits both Natalie and Liz.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-13-09, 11:36 PM (EST) 47. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" Possible but also possible is that she liked watching Ashley's story on TV while Natalie and Liz had none.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-14-09, 00:18 AM (EST) 48. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" I really don't think this is from watching the show. Yasmin is all about herself, and who likes Yasmin. She braided all the girls' hair, she says, and there was no sign in camp of any one favorite. I think she is picking her friends, people she got to know well. She had one day with Foa Foa in camp. She'll have 2 or more weeks with the pre-jury folks. It sounds very "Diane's friends" to me.   Top

frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-14-09, 05:07 AM (EST) 49. "RE: Yasmin RNO interview" ...and "Debb's friends." This season is bringing back memories. Perpetual *headbutt* compliments of Rolly.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-09-09, 06:40 PM (EST) 42. "Yasmin interview -- Survivor Fans Podcast" http://joannandstacyshow.libsyn.com/ Another pretty good interview from Survivor Fans podcast this week. Yasmin says that she and Jaison went on a quest for about an hour trying to find the HII but they never found it. She was hoping it might help Jaison. She also says that she shared the true clues with Shambo, but that she misled the rest. Yasmin's take on her tribemates: -- Dave is "very cunning - he's a snake" -- Kelly flirts a lot, esp. with Brett -- Monica is a follower and doesn't say much -- John took a lot of naps and didn't help much around camp. He also talks a lot. Everyone thought John was a model vs. a rocket scientist the first several days. He "fell in with the *in* crowd, so he's in good shape." -- RussSwell is a good man and she understands why he had to switch and vote for her. (Does that mean they talk at LL???) -- Erik is playing the game hard and he tried to make a secret alliance with her....and he's doing a very good job of taking the heat off himself....but she hopes he "gets conned." -- Laura is a "fake prophet" who likes to pray with people before the challenges. -- Brett acts dumbfounded out there...like a kid. -- Shambo didn't fit in with the girls and was Yasmin's main alliance.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-09-09, 09:23 PM (EST) 43. " Yasmin interview -- Reality TV World" LAST EDITED ON 10-09-09 AT 10:11 PM (EST) http://www.realitytvworld.com/realitytvdb/yasmin-giles/news Some really good stuff here...great job webby! Yasmin on RussSwell and Laura: He is . But again, he's the tribe leader -- but he's not really leading the tribe. I think as time goes on, we'll see some other people probably step up who have been running things when Russell actually thought he was. Reality TV World: Are you specifically referring to anyone? Who's running things at Galu at this point? Yasmin: Definitely Laura. She's pushing the buttons. Reality TV World: Interesting. We haven't seen much of Galu, so it's hard to see that. Yasmin: It's because most of those people are boring. Reality TV World: Okay, but you think Laura's running the show? Yasmin: Definitely.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-12-09, 07:53 PM (EST) 44. "RE: Yasmin interview -- Survivor Fans Podcast" LAST EDITED ON 10-12-09 AT 08:17 PM (EST) "Yasmin says that she and Jaison went on a quest for about an hour trying to find the HII but they never found it" I knew she had asked for Jaison's help! I'm almost sure Jaison then shared his info with RussHell and that's why RussHell showed him the idol. Did RussHell find the HII before getting Jaison's help? That's still unknown. "Reality TV World: Are you specifically referring to anyone? Who's running things at Galu at this point? Yasmin: Definitely Laura" It did seem that way to me also. A Sarah Palin-wannabee couldn't simply follow.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-12-09, 11:42 PM (EST) 45. "RE: Yasmin interview -- Survivor Fans Podcast" Way to go Michel -- you called both of these in advance!   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-23-09, 04:16 PM (EST) 50. "RussSwell RNO interview" http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10744.art&page=1 Seems like a great guy. Says it was probably a combination of severe dehydration + malnutrition and lack of sleep: RNO: So would you say that watching yourself was the most eye-opening thing you saw on TV that you didn’t know about while you were there? Russell S.: Yes – how bad I was doing, how dangerous I came to really checking out. I had heard the promos and Jeff saying things and I’m thinking, “it can’t be that big a deal.” I was really shocked to see just how out of it I was. The stumbling around, the calling my name – I don’t remember any of that, I was completely checked out. The only other time I’ve ever seen that is in boxing when they’re punch-drunk. I have zero memory of that. It’s just amazing to me. That whole challenge was beyond eye-opening and shows just how much a role dehydration can play in your life and how life-threatening it can be.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-23-09, 05:28 PM (EST) 51. "Russell S. RTVW Interview" http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-russell-swan-talks-about-survivor-samoa-evacuation-9810.php   Top

Georjanna 1316 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 10-23-09, 05:56 PM (EST) 52. "RE: Russell S. RTVW Interview" Odd that in the three interviews of Russell I've read thus far, it would appear that he wasn't directly asked about his decision to - in effect - exile Shambo twice. Or about his plan to do it for the third time. And I wonder if that has been a courtesy or a condition.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-24-09, 03:33 PM (EST) 54. "RE: Russell S. RTVW Interview" Georjanna, I just listened to the Survivor Fans Podcast, and they asked him about the Shambo exile issue. He basically says that it was "the path of least resistance" to send Shambo, and he felt like she had set herself up as an outsider. He said he probably would have kept sending her because he needed to keep the critical mass on his side. Here's the link: http://cdn3.libsyn.com/joannandstacy/SFP20091023_RussellSwan.mp3?nvb=20091024185658&nva=20091025190658&t=01f5ffec79f00e5229af2 Given that he applied 8 times to the show and is a huge fan/student of the game, I also thought it was interesting to hear what RussSwell had to say about his tribemates: Brett: Playing a very good game, staying low-key Dave: Playing a good game, but his Achilles' heel is his mouth John: Underwear model, who cares?! (Then he laughs) Then he says that John "showed his hand early" with all his overengineering of the shelter and seemed to indicate people have made their impressions of him Erik: he's a beast, he was my right hand mind...hope he can control his aggressiveness Laura: "Whoah (whistles), she is a serious gamer" Kelly: She's a sweetheart, but watch out for her and Brett Monica: Sweetheart, but physically the weakest, which will bite her in the butt Shambo: Shambo is Shambo....she's my JT, she's my pick to win.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-23-09, 06:01 PM (EST) 53. "RE: Russell S. RTVW Interview" LAST EDITED ON 10-23-09 AT 06:07 PM (EST) That was a good interview. I love the fact that RussSwell was NOT recruited and applied 8 times before he finally got on the show -- too bad it had to end the way it did, because it would have been nice to see a true fan win. Looks like he confirms that Laura was the leader for the younger kids on Galu (also appreciate his honesty about being out of the loop on the social game): Reality TV World: When we talked with Yasmin she said that although you were the tribe's official leader, Laura Morett was "definitely" the one who was actually running things at Galu. Do you agree with that? Russell: I'm not surprised by that assessment and I don't think that's inaccurate. If I know for myself I can't say, because I really don't. But that sounds pretty accurate. Laura was the older woman that wasn't Shambo. It could have been Shambo, but Shambo's just too Shambo to do it. So the other go-to person for the young people -- especially the young women -- was Laura. So that probably is accurate. But again, Chief was just so far out of the loop because he's got his head up his butt.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-25-09, 02:02 PM (EST) 55. "RE: Russell S. RTVW Interview" I'll say that I love the interviews where the player is honest and doesn't try to spin the story in his favor. I especially liked the "watch for Kelly and Brett" quote!   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-30-09, 06:40 PM (EST) 56. "Liz post-game interview with ZapIt" LAST EDITED ON 10-30-09 AT 06:41 PM (EST) http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/10/survivor-samoas-elizabeth-kim-tried-to-make-a-yuppie-alliance.html Liz says that Russhell/Natalie were a unit and Jaison/Mick were a unit and she was the odd person out: "Russell had Natalie wrapped around his pinky finger and Mick and Jaison were together. I tried to work on them for a Yuppie Alliance but what I hadn't realized was that Russell had already gotten to them when he showed them the Idol." It's interesting that in her final comments (Insider Clips), she said she's rooting for RussHell to win and didn't seem bitter. But here's what she has to say now...some strong words about RussHell: "He's a chauvinist pig with a fragile ego and when confronted by a strong woman, he got them booted. It happened with Marisa and Betsy. If we had just won one more challenge I would've stayed and it would've been a different game. Although she doesn't have great things to say about her other FaoFao tribemates either: Who are you rooting for? I'm rooting for Mick or Jaison. Maybe even Natalie. You know, Jaison as whiny as he was and Natalie as whiny as she was and Mick as robotic as he was, I still like to think that one of my tribemates made it to the finals. I always like rooting for the underdog and we're certainly the underdogs, losing challenge after challenge. Perhaps even Russell because to his credit, he played the game. I'll give him that much. If you had to pick somebody from Galu? I like Eric and I like David. They are both smart and savvy strategic players. I don't' think the women are gonna make it and as much as I like Shambo personally, you can read her like an open book. She's not gonna make it far at all. David has a good head on his shoulders and Eric has the Idol.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-30-09, 07:18 PM (EST) 57. "Liz RTVW interview" http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-elizabeth-kim-talks-about-her-survivor-samoa-experience-9845.php   Top

PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-30-09, 08:13 PM (EST) 58. "RE: Liz RTVW interview" You know, for someone who raised such a big stink with her pre-show interview and in this one about the racist comments made by Ben, it's disappointing to me to see that she uses other insensitive comments ("you have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know if you're going home").   Top

Georjanna 1316 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 10-30-09, 10:03 PM (EST) 59. "RE: Liz RTVW interview" LAST EDITED ON 10-30-09 AT 10:51 PM (EST) It is especially disappointing given that, by her assessment, she is a resident of the only 'progressive' enclave in the United States. Note: It is also disappointing that Yasmin - and Jaison - seem to be unaware that there is, historically, a racial component inherent in the derogatory application of the adjective 'ignorant' to a southern, white male. The fact that the word may be, in all of its other connotations, a perfect fit notwithstanding ... G   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 10-30-09, 10:37 PM (EST) 60. "RE: Liz RTVW interview" Looks like RussHell was right in voting her out, because she admits in several interviews that she would have flipped at the merge.   Top

flystorms 212 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-31-09, 12:36 PM (EST) 61. "RE: Liz RTVW interview" I thought this was the most interesting comment in her interview. I'm surprised the handler didn't tell the interviewer to not put this in there. Hmmm..what do you think? Reality TV World: You've talked a lot about Russell. Have you been surprised that he has been such a big focus of the season so far -- had you gotten that feeling when you were out there? Liz: I didn't know on the island, but certainly in the airings it is surprising -- but that just leads me to believe that he's going to fall, and he's going to fall hard. I don't think he's going to make it to the end at all. Somebody's going to get onto him and he's going to lose big time.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-01-09, 11:49 AM (EST) 62. "RE: Liz RTVW interview" I guess the handler didn't stop Liz because she's just stating her opinion vs. what actually happened. Plus, since Liz didn't make the jury, she doesn't have much info on what happened the rest of the game. That said, though, I do think it's possible that Liz is correct that RussHell loses in the very end.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-01-09, 01:30 PM (EST) 63. "RE: Liz RTVW interview" So Liz would have been one of the greatest players ever according to Liz!! Please. Liz was just as much a follower of Russell as the others. And, about not being able to relate to Ben, she conveniently forgets that she was adament in keeping him. She said she went to Mick about blindsiding Russell but didn't talk to Jaison because he was on the block with her and "it would have been ackward"!!!! That would have been the perfect occasion to get Jaison to flip on his alliance. Funny comparing herself to Erinn and thinking she would have certainly infiltrated Galu. Jalapao desperately needed Erinn. I'm thinking Liz would have received the same answer Sally received from Danielle and Courtney: Thank you for your offer but we don't need you, we have the numbers. BTW, her focus on the idol is strange. It wasn't really the idol that empowered Russell, it was his plan all along.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-01-09, 08:05 PM (EST) 64. "RE: Liz RTVW interview" I would bet the non-jurors find out real quick when they get home, who is jury and who is in the finals. I think Liz is simply indulging in speculating that what she wishes happened will happen. Russell will not fall hard, IMHO. He will make the finals. and won't get voted out, so even though he probably won't win, Liz's prophecy won't be fulfilled. I agree that Liz may give him too little credit, but she may be right that the idol kept the three guys tight. That is one hope for Foa Foa to turn the game around, going in low in numbers, the opportunity to idol an opponent. Without an idol they really have to rely on Galu pulling a Timbira - which they don't have a reason to expect until they get a chance to meet the Galu. If Foa Foa were going in with numbers, they would have been smart to blindside Russell before the merge, but in their situation, Mick, Jaison, Natalie - all need him.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-06-09, 02:20 PM (EST) 65. "Erik RNO interview" http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10792.art&page=1 Erik says the only people on Galu he could trust were RussSwell and Shambo. "But Brett and Dave? Not. Solid. At all." He admits the guys alliance was a big mistake, and they should have stuck with the Laura/Erik plan to flush out RussHell's idol while really voting out Jaison. He says John was the one who threw things off: "John wanted Laura out so bad because he was terrified of the Laura/Monica alliance." Funny Erik should say that John was "terrified" of Laura/Monica, because in the Insider clips John has a really weird conversation where he warns Brett about Laura and how you have to watch out for women like her who are over 40 but act like a teenager. It's pretty hilarious but creepy at the same time.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-06-09, 03:56 PM (EST) 66. "RE: Erik RNO interview" Erik is giving Natalie credit for engineering his ouster in his interviews and says she is playing the best game. That will make Russell mad. A tribe glows in Brooklyn   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-06-09, 04:34 PM (EST) 67. "RE: Erik RNO interview" Yes, it must kill RussHell to see his "dumba** blond" outwit him. It's funny how even last night he tried to tell her that she was wrong about the way the vote was going down. P.S. Here are a couple more links: http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/2595-survivor-samoa-exclusive-interview-with-erik-cardona Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Who should take the credit for orchestrating your exit from the game? A. Erik: I think Natalie, to be honest. It’s crazy because she’s the innocent one, who is lowest on everybody’s radar. I think this was the biggest game changing move so far. Laura got cocky and got greedy. I can’t believe that Laura listened to her. Stop talking to a Foa Foa member! I respect Natalie because she got the ball rolling. I give her credit! It hurt that none of my guys and the rest of Galu didn’t stand up for me. http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/11/survivor-samoas-erik-cardona-best-game-natalie-100.html At this point in the game, who do you think is playing the best game? Jesus... gosh, that's so tough. John? Maybe? I gotta go with John. I think everyone is kinda playing a little bit different game. See, Laura was playing a good game but she was wrong. She made a mistake and got a little greedy and got a little pompous. I can't really say Russell, because he's aggressive but he looks like a total idiot when he comes to our tribe. He came over to us and he shows 8 different people the idol and makes promises to everybody and I thought his game play sucked. At this point in the game I didn't really respect anybody's game play. Shambo, God bless her heart, she was very loyal but she wasn't a gamer. She wasn't a strategist, she was loyal and that's what she brought to the table. Monica was thinking she signed up for the wrong show. She thought she was going to be on "Survivor: Cabo San Lucas Princess Edition." I guess maybe Brett because he works really hard, he's very intelligent. I'm gonna go with Brett and America doesn't know that because he doesn't get so much facetime. Oh, wait no! Natalie. She's protecting herself as a lone wolf, only woman on Foa Foa. She's really tight with a guy who's mowing people down and at this point in the game she concocted the idea to get me out and I think she's responsible for making the biggest move in the game. I stand corrected, it's Natalie 100%.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-06-09, 06:57 PM (EST) 70. "RE: Erik RNO interview" Although Erik only became aware of Natalie's role in his boot when he saw last night's ep (see RTVW link below). Erik is a very enjoyable interviewee, one of the more articulate contestants they've had.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-08-09, 02:39 PM (EST) 71. "RE: Erik RNO interview" LAST EDITED ON 11-08-09 AT 02:40 PM (EST) I agree -- I really like Erik and I wish he could have gone farther. He definitely wins my vote for the player this season that I'd want to have a beer with. And yeah, I know he says he found out what happened while watching it, but I do think he must have gotten bits and pieces as the other Galus came off the jury. (He just couldn't be sure who was telling the truth and what exactly happened until he saw it on TV). And you would have to think that Natalie would have talked about it in her final jury speech, assuming she makes it that far. It's always hard to separate out their impressions while still in the game vs. after watching it all play out on TV. But last season it was a big red flag to me when so many of the Ponderosa people were saying that they were surprised by what a big role Stephen played in the strategy -- that said to me that there was no way Stephen could win the jury vote, because JT was getting all the credit. Likewise, this season it will be telling if the jurors even mention Mick's or Natalie's game play in their post-game interviews, or if they give all the credit to RussHell.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-06-09, 06:27 PM (EST) 68. "Erik RTVW" LAST EDITED ON 11-06-09 AT 06:42 PM (EST) http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-erik-cardona-discusses-his-survivor-samoa-blindside-9892.php But if you're built for something, you're built for something and it becomes apparent even if they look at a million people -- and I think that was my situation. I still say that everything that I've done in life and everything that I do, if you put it in a computer and in spit out exactly what I was supposed to do in life it would be a contestant on this damn game. o_O   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-06-09, 06:49 PM (EST) 69. "Finally we find out for sure" Reality TV World: Did any of the other Galu members know you had the Hidden Immunity Idol? Erik: Nope. I wanted to keep it invisible so I could play it later down the road. I figured as much.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-13-09, 04:29 PM (EST) 72. "Here are 3 Kelly post-game interviews " http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10819.art&page=1 http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/2618-survivor-samoa-exclusive-interview-with-kelly-sharbaugh http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem/2618-survivor-samoa-exclusive-interview-with-kelly-sharbaugh I thought this was interesting, esp. in light of TDT's latest update to his Survivometer (I'm not giving details here on TDT's tip, since some people might not want to know): At this point in the game, who were you rooting for? "I mean, at this point I genuinely thought Brett was playing the most strategic game, the best game. He set himself up to be aligned with all the right people, he's friendly with everyone, he's got Shambo on his side and I feel like physically he's one of the best players out there. No one really sees him coming, I'm pulling for him to win." (Kelly's mention of Shambo makes me think of that merge photo where she's hugging Brett...other than that, though, we haven't really seen much revealed about Brett being tight with Shambo.) A couple other nuggets: "I don't know how many people even realized that Shambo flipped, because she acted just as surprised as everyone else" (i.e., at TC last night). "To me, it seems like it’s a tie game at this point. Shambo has obviously flipped. It just depends on who wins immunity." Regarding the Galu girls alliance: "From day one, we looked at each other and said, “Girls to the end.” As the game progressed, Monica and Laura became more of a target because Shambo felt more on the outs. The guys were terrified of us!"   Top

CTgirl 8013 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-14-09, 00:21 AM (EST) 76. "RE: Here are 3 Kelly post-game interviews " Here's a short one from TV Guide on-line: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Survivors-Kelly-Discusses-1012115.aspx Did you know that Shambo had become so close with Russell and Foa Foa? Kelly: Shambo never slept in the shelter with us from the beginning, so she started off separating herself like that. After the merge, when Foa Foa came over, Russell started bunking up in her little tree, so it was obvious that they were in alliances and obvious that Shambo was going to flip. That makes me laugh on so many levels! Any predictions? Who do you want to see make it to the end? Kelly: Russell definitely has a really big target on his back. He's going to have to keep finding these immunity idols if he wants to stay in the game... (Laura] and Shambo haven't been getting along, so I think Laura or Russell will be the next to go. I'm rooting for Brett. I want to see him get the farthest. He's playing a great game right now. He's set up really well with everyone and he's a really strong competitor. I think people underestimate him, which is definitely working to his advantage. We know they're supposed to lie and evade but that was an interesting comment non-the-less. "A Day of Reckoning" is coming and the story line certainly leads us to believe that one of those two will leave next week.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-14-09, 01:33 AM (EST) 77. "RE: Here are 3 Kelly post-game interviews " That is very interesting about Russell bunking in Shambo's tree ... it sounds ... suggestive ... and so wrong the way Kelly put it. That Russell, he does like to poke around in those hollow trees. The story line is definite; the question is, will a variable interfere with the outcome? Immunity, idol, purple rock. Three things that could change the outcome of the duel.   Top

Karchita 4483 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 11-14-09, 01:45 AM (EST) 78. "RE: Here are 3 Kelly post-game interviews " Russell likes poking, for sure, and that Shambo is wanting a good, romping bunking. That's for sure, too.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-14-09, 12:28 PM (EST) 80. "RE: Here are 3 Kelly post-game interviews " LOL, Russell and Shambo sitting (sleeping) in a tree! Wasn't there a rumor about Russell romancing someone? CTGirl, I also found this line from the TV Guide interview very interesting -- could be a line to throw us off but you never know: Kelly: Russell definitely has a really big target on his back. He's going to have to keep finding these immunity idols if he wants to stay in the game...   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-13-09, 06:35 PM (EST) 73. "Kelly RTVW interview" http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-kelly-sharbaugh-talks-about-survivor-samoa-9933.php   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-13-09, 07:04 PM (EST) 74. "RE: Kelly RTVW interview" Thanks Snidget, this is an excellent great interview. A couple things that really caught my eye: * "I think Russell is the most strategic player in the game, if not in all of Survivor history. I think if he continues to find these idols then he will make it far. He definitely has a target on his back. I think the one thing that Russell is forgetting is that he's treating all of us like game pieces on a board. Not once has he connected with anyone on an emotional level. So I think that could catch up to him and bite him in the ##### in the long run." * She also says that they all figured out after they voted Erik out that it was really John who was gunning for Monica: "We were like, "Aw #####. It should have been John." But like, "Okay, stay cool. Don't let John know we know because we need to keep him on our side to get rid of a few Foa Foa." This was also an astute observation about how John vs. Dave plays the game -- will these tendencies come into play in the next episode?: Why do you think Dave was so quick to dismiss the idea that Russell might have had an idol -- especially since he found the first one without a clue? Kelly: I don't know. I think that John is a type of person that analyzes everything over and over and over and runs through things -- like all the different possibilities. I think Dave is much more of a quick decision maker -- him and I were kind of two of the people that came to decision so quickly to send Erik home last minute. He's just a very spontaneous person so I feel maybe that's what it was.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-13-09, 11:51 PM (EST) 75. "RE: Kelly RTVW interview" Squid, I read the interview before I saw your post, and picked out the same two sections. 1) Seeing Russell's strategic moves only after voting for winner, bad for Russell. Same thing said of Stephen last season. 2) The debate on "clever" in the other topic -- from what she says, John is the one who's prone to overthinking. I'm guessing that clue is about John.   Top

Karchita 4483 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 11-14-09, 01:49 AM (EST) 79. "RE: Kelly RTVW interview" I think the one thing that Russell is forgetting is that he's treating all of us like game pieces on a board. Not once has he connected with anyone on an emotional level. Shades of Richard Hatch.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-19-09, 12:24 PM (EST) 81. "Kelly interview with People magazine" Just noticed this People interview -- bringing it over since it has a nugget about John that could possibly confirm that he's the one who flips tonight. Also, more telling comments re possible jury vote: http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/11/15/survivors-kelly-reacts-to-surprise-elimination-fire-ants/ Re John (she's responding to a question about whether the Erik vote was a mistake, and she blames it on John...but you could infer this also confirms that he's the one to flip): "John ruined everything in a way. He called the original plan to take out Foa Foa one-by-one “junior varsity Survivor,” and it ended up more junior varsity to send home one of our own. We shot ourselves in the foot and deserve the fallout. Now it’s a tie game and getting interesting watching the underdogs rise up. They have an advantage strategy-wise." And here are more comments about RussHell's terrible social game and how it could cost him jury votes: "In the game, I thought, “Who is this creepy little man stirring up trouble and making stupid moves?” I didn’t see the wisdom of his strategy. But he’s playing an amazing game, the best so far, and no one saw it coming. He’s running his tribe. I never understood why the others never tried to get rid of him. But we’re people, not just little chess pieces he moves around. We have the vote in the end and he’s not making the emotional connections that you need to win. He treats people terribly and he talks about them. I question his integrity as a human being. He said something about how God made him for the game. I’m not a religious person, but it’s still offensive that the most evil player ever thinks he’s doing God’s work." I sure hope this doesn't mean that we're going to have a holier than thou jury! I can totally see Laura, Kelly and Monica voting based on who they felt played the most moral or most deserving game.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-19-09, 12:35 PM (EST) 82. "RE: Kelly interview with People magazine" I agree that this is the approach MLK will take in voting...but the guys...I'm not so sure Remember who won it for Hatch it was Greg's opinion that Hatch played best game. He parted with his pals Colleen, etc. in that vote.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-19-09, 12:58 PM (EST) 83. "RE: Kelly interview with People magazine" Emy, I agree about the guys -- I'm really hoping that Erik, John and Dave will vote based on game play. Hard to say about Brett at this point. I believe a lot will hinge on how Shambo gets booted. If she feels that RussHell screws her over at the end, that could be the deciding factor. On the other hand, if she feels he was a friend to the end, that could be another locked vote for RussHell. There was a very interesting Insider Clip this week where Russell says he trusts Shambo 100%, as much as Natalie. But he knows that Shambo is playing the "moral game" and will be disappointed in him at some point, because he's playing the outwit/lying game. Could this be foreshadowing of what will happen between the two of them? I've been having trouble getting on to the Sucks board this week to bring over James Barber's transcripts, but I'll do it later this weekend when I have more time.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-20-09, 02:32 AM (EST) 84. "RE: Kelly interview with People magazine" Regarding how the jury might vote....Dalton Ross has an interesting quote in his EW blog for this week: "If Russell manages to make it to the finals and does not win the million dollars, it will only be because of a bitter jury refusing to acknowledge and appreciate brilliant game-play. It would also be the biggest travesty of a vote since the alleged "All-Stars" couldn’t get over their personal beefs of being bested, and handed the million to Amber instead of Boston Rob. (Hang your heads in shame, All-Star jury.)" It's funny because I've been getting a Boston Rob/Amber vibe this season too.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-20-09, 02:40 PM (EST) 85. "Laura RNO interview" LAST EDITED ON 11-20-09 AT 02:41 PM (EST) http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10845.art&page=1 Very interesting - She says that they never showed it, but she and Brett went to the same church so formed a tight alliance and Brett was telling her everything the 4 guys said. So she knew John was gunning for her all along. She also says that Brett was going to give her the immunity necklace if he won it. It's hard to tell from this who she'd vote for. On the one hand, she says she "totally bonded with Natalie" but RussHell is "creepy." But then she makes a comment that if she had been on RussHell's team, she wouldn't have ridden his coattails but instead would have been his wingman and he'd be the "perfect quarterback." She also says she's "not a 22 yr. old girl" and that's why RussHell couldn't boss her around.   Top

blueahh 54 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 11-20-09, 04:21 PM (EST) 86. "RE: Laura RNO interview" Sounds like she voted for Natalie as she thought Russell was creepy and said she would have rode someone's coattails if she had the opportunity. It is interesting how she talks about Shambo going after "me and my tribe." Wasn't Shambo on her tribe? Two paragraphs later, she says that she never excluded Shambo. Hmmm.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-20-09, 06:25 PM (EST) 87. "RE: Laura RNO interview" LAST EDITED ON 11-20-09 AT 08:39 PM (EST) Here's the Zapit interview: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/11/survivor-samoas-laura-morett-well-played-by-russell.html When asked if she's still mad at RussHell, she says: "I'm not a bitter person. I'm a competitor. I'm big enough to stick my hand out and say "well played" and it was well played by Russell." A couple other interesting parts: So you knew John was the person who flipped, even before last night? Yeah. I knew John was coming after me, even back when Russell Swan was in the game. What people don't know is that Brett and I have a really tight alliance. I knew his family from my church, so Brett and I are tight....Brett would tell me what was going on (with the guys alliance), so I knew that John was really threatened by me and Monica's alliance, he wanted me out. So did you know Brett before "Survivor?" Ed's note: Laura was not allowed to answer this question. Who do you think is playing the best game? I think Brett was playing a good game, I think that Russell was playing a strong game. He was playing a very, very aggressive game. I didn't necessarily like that, that's not how I played, but I knew he was playing an aggressive game. Brett is very likable, he's a great guy, so I knew that he had potential and I was rooting for Brett. I can't believe they didn't let her answer the question about whether she knew Brett before....by not answering she basically confirms she knew him. It was weird that they were both from Salem, OR.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-20-09, 07:26 PM (EST) 88. "RE: Laura RNO interview" RNO: What was the first thought that went through your mind last week when Russell stood up with the immunity idol for the second Tribal Council in a row? Laura: I wanted to know where he found it because I was at that bridge all day. I was looking under it, I was looking all over. I was looking for the idol that Erik left with because I didn’t know he had it and I was still assuming we had an idol on our beach. I was at that bridge – there are only a certain amount of landmarks at camp. I’d been searching all over, so I wonder when it got placed there – it was just kind of suspicious to me. Hmmm. A tribe glows in Brooklyn   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-20-09, 08:06 PM (EST) 89. "RE: Laura RNO interview" Wow, the conspiracy theory people are going to love this. I find it doubtful, though, that Laura was really at the bridge searching all day, don't you? Knowing the 90210 group, they were doing yoga or at the beach. Kelly even mentioned that the day she was voted out, the girls were at the beach the entire day instead of strategizing. Was Laura on reward the week that Erik went out? (That's when Galu got the clue, while on reward.) They probably hid it while they were on reward...and even if Laura didn't go, I still doubt that she was searching for it the entire time. This week's cat and mouse game with Dave and Laura chasing RussHell to find the HII proved just how inept they were at searching . And if Laura was as "clued in" about John as she said she was, you'd think she would have been trying a little harder to find the HII.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-20-09, 08:38 PM (EST) 90. "RE: Laura RNO interview" This is from Laura's "Reality Wanted" interview...looks like there's no chance Russell is getting her vote, based on the "good person" comment. Q. RealityWanted: When you’re voting for the person who will win a million dollars, do you look strictly at gameplay or do personal feelings get involved? A. Laura: No, a lot of things come into play. You can’t separate out your personal feelings. I want the person whose name I write down to be a good person. We’re handing them a check for a million dollars, that’s a pretty big gift. However, on the competitive side, I want to know that you beat me and you kicked my butt in challenges. I love competition and I love to go one on one. I want to know how the person beat me. I want them to tell me. I can handle it.   Top

vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-20-09, 09:21 PM (EST) 91. "RE: Laura RNO interview" The episode that Kelly got voted out, Laura was on the same losing team as RussHell. Therefore, she was at camp at the same time he was....... In fact, all of the FF4 was there with Laura and Brett. It might depend on when that HII was hidden, and it might depend on if Laura and Brett were distracted by Natalie, Mick, and Jaison........   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-20-09, 10:49 PM (EST) 92. "RE: Laura RNO interview" LAST EDITED ON 11-20-09 AT 10:51 PM (EST) This is a good bit from the RTVW interview -- Laura says that RussHell was indeed the one who 1st clued John in (not Brett) about Galu's plan to use John as a decoy. This was really stupid on Galu's part -- that was the final push John needed to flip. But smart on RussHell's part to run to John with the info. Laura says: "We wanted him to think, "Hey John, who should we vote out?" so that he thinks that he's in charge. But the reality is -- John, sorry -- but you're going to be the little worm that's the bait. We're going to use you. "But then we found out that Russell tells him, "Oh, by the way, they're thinking about writing your name down," that's when Dave goes to him -- it doesn't show Dave but it shows Dave and Brett and him talking and saying, "Here's what we're going to do." So the funny thing is, he's talking about how simple our strategy is, when in reality it's like in reality John, the joke's on you. That wasn't our strategy, we just wanted you to think that you were in charge of what's going on but we were going to use you as a decoy."   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-21-09, 02:22 AM (EST) 93. "RE: Laura RNO interview" No Laura, pretty sure the joke was on you. Besides which, it's a number's game, and if Shambo's vote is set in stone, why would Foa Foa go another direction? Because they believe Monica? I don't think so. Didn't Laura and Russell bond as Christians? When did she decide he was evil? It sounds like Laura wants to vote for someone who goes on an immunity run. Not sure that's likely ... Brett might, but he won't be in the finals. Laura was such a disappointment for me, as I thought I might like her; she's the first person on who (I think) has some Native Hawaiian blood). And then there was nothing Hawaiian about her personality or her speech, so she didn't represent at all. (I'm not Hawaiian but I enjoy the culture.)   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-21-09, 01:48 PM (EST) 94. "RE: Laura RNO interview" Laura voting for someone on an immunity run crossed my mind too. Mick seems the most likely candidate for that, although at the very end you never know, even Natalie or RussHell could win the last couple. I think Laura and Russell bonding as Christians only lasted that one episode and was down the drain the next episode when she had her "I'm bringing 90% you're bring 10%" tift with him. Sounds like it was more sincere with Natalie. Laura was a disappointment for me too. I always root for the strong women but she was just unlikeable...hard to say if it was the edit or the grating voice or all the religious stuff that got in the way. I do still think she was a great pick for the show....at least she had game!   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 11-21-09, 02:37 PM (EST) 96. "RE: Laura RNO interview" Here's an interesting bit from TV Guide that might give insight into whether or not Monica goes next. Also, note her comment about hoping Brett does well because "he's good" -- seems to be a theme with Laura. TVGuide.com: Who would you like to see make it to the end? Laura: Even though me and Monica were really right, so were Brett and I. I think that Monica has a huge target because she was my — in their eyes — other half. It's hard to say because she's not weak but she wasn't as much the physical threat that I was. They might think, "Oh, she's going to be good now. She's going to behave." I hope that Brett does really . He's good, he's smart, he's kind. I'm rooting for him.   Top

CTgirl 8013 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-21-09, 02:35 PM (EST) 95. "RTVW Interview" Here's the link. We do have the best interviewers around. Laura compared Dave Ball to Kramer on Seinfeld, LOL.   Top

JC222 27 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 12-04-09, 10:40 PM (EST) 97. "John's post-game interviews" John's RTVW interview is interesting for a couple things: 1) He says he told Monica, Dave and Brett that RussHell has the HII, so they are aware 2)He makes mention in this interview (and at least one other) that it's not 100% that Shambo has flipped. "A lot of people think Shambo has totally flipped . But that's not what it was. I had a really good relationship with Shambo." http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-ousted-castaway-john-fincher-talks-about-survivor-samoa--10046.php John's ZapIt interview is interesting because he says Russell is playing the best game right now and he sounds like a definite Russell jury vote: "If Russell and I were put on the same team initially, it would've been "Katie, bar the door!" It would've been even crazier. Russell is the greatest there ever was in this game." Is there anybody besides Russell or is he just the complete puppetmaster? There are some people who have potential to do some things, but are they going to do it? Dave Ball is a smart, smart person but does he have what it takes to execute a strategy? I think Brett is very likeable for a lot of people, but I think he's a bit young and a bit too naive to be a power player. Mick is obviously very smart and someone who can do a lot of good things. Monica is very weak. I think she made a bad decision to go with Brett and Dave over me. Jaison is a strong player, Dave has the potential to be a strong player, but he's drowning. He's just trying to stay afloat. But they are all overshadowed by Russell. Hmmm, no mention of Natalie in that answer -- interesting. Here's the link to the full interview: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/12/survivor-samoas-john-fincher-on-russell-doing-business-with-the-devil.html   Top

JC222 27 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 12-05-09, 01:59 AM (EST) 98. "RE: John's post-game interviews" LAST EDITED ON 12-05-09 AT 02:00 AM (EST) More from John on Shambo (from his TV Guide interview): "It’s being portrayed that Shambo has totally flipped but she has alliances with who she likes...." AND "Russell had the same problem with Shambo that I did, which is that her voting was based purely off emotion, not for strategic reasons, and it’s hard working with somebody like that." While it seems like a slam dunk for Dave and Monica to both go this week, these comments (along with the "Damage Control" title) make me wonder if it could be Dave and Shambo instead. Perhaps Russell is not able to fix things with Shambo? There was also the Insider Clip a couple weeks ago where he said he knows he'd disappoint her at some point. And if Russell is thinking about the jury, he must know that keeping Monica over Shambo would win him jury points. Of course he's counting on Shambo and Nat to help him boot Mick and Jaison at the end....the question is whether he can still trust her to do that? After the crazy Dave dream it's hard to say.   Top

JC222 27 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 12-05-09, 02:11 AM (EST) 99. "RE: John's post-game interviews" I think the ET and RealityWanted interviews seal it that John voted for Russell but most of the others did not (and instead voted for someone they liked). The line at the very end about how "you can’t just float by without making any moves and then convince me that you did stuff" is very telling: ET: Having seen the show now, would you change your vote? John Fincher: I would not change my vote. I think there are a lot of people who would change their vote. Out of respect for the game and everyone's effort, I really tried hard to make a decision on who would receive my vote. I think a lot of other people didn't do that. I think a lot of other people were disgruntled. Some people were so fed up that they don't even want to talk about the game. I can talk about the game forever. It is entertaining and fun. A lot of people don't have experience making decisions. A lot of people voted for the person they like the most. To answer your question, I would not change who I voted for. I made the correct decision. Q. Gina, RealityWanted: As a member of the jury, what kind of player do you have the most respect for? A. John: I have respect for players who executed well. I think out of the respect that I have for this game, when I cast my vote, it’s a tough decision. A lot of people are bitter and are picking the lesser of two evils. Out of respect for the game, I wanted to make the right decision. I wanted to grind it out one last time and figure out who the best person was. I’m different in my line of thinking than others. This is a game that you have to win. You can’t just float by without making any moves and then convince me that you did stuff.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-05-09, 12:23 PM (EST) 101. "RE: John's post-game interviews" I think maybe Erik might have voted for Russhell too After this past ep Shambo is not a Russhell vote anymore imho She may vote for McDreamy I still would love to see a finale tie I really want to see what they'd do in that sit at the finale...or would they make them revote on the island?   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-05-09, 12:17 PM (EST) 100. "RE: John's post-game interviews" Welcome JC! I just posted about this same post over in Damage control before reading your post here! I think Shambo goes at F8   Top

JC222 27 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 12-05-09, 12:24 PM (EST) 102. "RE: John's post-game interviews" Thanks emydi, but I'm not new -- I'm the old Squid. Having PC problems and can't log on under my old name so using JC for the time being. But yes, I'm getting the vibe that Shambo could go this week -- glad I'm not the only one feeling that way. Shambo has had a ton of face time the last couple episodes, whereas Monica has been in the background, so that might be another indicator. It would be very ironic if Brett and Monica, two of the most innocuous UTR players, are the last 2 Galu standing. Meanwhile Erik, Laura and John (arguably their 3 smartest players) are sitting on the jury. Go figure.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-05-09, 12:28 PM (EST) 103. "RE: John's post-game interviews" oh hi squid!! I had trouble for awhile and I just don't hit "keep me signed in" anymore (I just sign in everytime now)and it seemed to work. Did you clear your cookies too?   Top

JC222 27 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 12-05-09, 01:24 PM (EST) 104. "RE: John's post-game interviews" yes, the geek squad had to come in and wipe my computer clean and reload everything I'm checking in with the site administrator so hopefully I'll be back to squid in a day or two   Top

CTgirl 8013 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-05-09, 01:58 PM (EST) 105. "RE: John's post-game interviews" It would make sense editing wise that Brett and Monica are the last two standing. In the premiere, they both had two early confessionals that seemed kind of awkward. Brett had the first confessional of the game and then we didn't see him again for weeks. Monica's confessional on leadership was choppy and kind of stuck in there plus she hasn't been anywhere near the leaders of her tribe. The editors obviously wanted to introduce them in some way to the viewers so we'd remember them.   Top

JC222 27 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 12-05-09, 02:54 PM (EST) 106. "RE: John's post-game interviews" Great point CTgirl -- I had forgotten about those early confessionals. That coupled with the uptick in face time for Dave and Shambo the past 2 episodes seems to point to a Shambo/Dave boot. Part of me is surprised that Russell would ever allow Monica or Brett to stick around that long...but Shambo must do something to tick him off or worry him. I think she's the only one left who doesn't realize he has the idol so maybe it's tied to that.   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-05-09, 04:07 PM (EST) 107. "RE: John's post-game interviews" I agree with the thinking in this thread. Shambo is in serious trouble, and likely will not even realize it. She is such a loose cannon and the epitome of an emotional player, and finally, she can not be trusted to stick with a plan. She's toast....fwiw.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-05-09, 11:57 PM (EST) 108. "RE: John's post-game interviews" These are all good points about Shambo. Re the first confessionals, they went: Brett, Shambo, Marisa, RussHell, Betsy in the canoes. Brett was commenting on Shambo. Marisa and Betsy commented on Russ. Then a second group during the leader pick, Monica, Mick, Shambo, Ben, Russell S. Mick and Russell were elected leader, and both are/were major characters. Ben was a character who needed to be introduced as he was huge but not long for the game. Brett getting the first was major. Monica's was indeed unnecessary. But let's not forget that Shambo had TWO and was the only one to do so. She is a major major character. OTOH she has already fulfilled that role. I could see Russell promising Dave some life by agreeing to boot Shambo. But there is also going to be this F4 proposal coming from Dave and Monica to Jaison and Mick. That's a HUGE threat to Russell. I wouldn't be surprised if Natalie gets wind of it and tells him. In Russell's place, would you be more likely to react to the direct threat against himself or to concerns about Shambo's unreliability? Re John's comments on Shambo, I think he means she's playing an individual game and doesn't care about tribes. She liked Erik, John, and still likes Brett. She can't stand Dave and Monica. Will she let Russell know that she doesn't like being kept out of the loop? She did it to Dave, so likely she will. There should be a way for Russell to assuage her though. One is explaining that they needed to boot John but didn't want to ask her to have his blood on her hands. But perhaps it won't work. Shambo's still not as dangerous as the Dave-Monica duo. Dave is also close to Brett, He's working on Jaison and Mick. That's enough to get Russell out and he can only play the idol once. Also, Dave more or less beat Jaison in that last immunity. He's very tough. I would vote out Dave.   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-06-09, 01:24 AM (EST) 109. "RE: John's post-game interviews" Agree that Shambo isn't dangerous, at least in respect that she cannot turn the game in her favor. Her jury vote at Final Tribal, though, is another matter. Russell had two Galu manipulated to his side, he could have satisfied one but not the other, instead he opted to shaft them both. Did it really matter that John knew Russ had the HII? At a certain point having the HII is only important in keeping it from everyone else, or at least knowing where it is. But it mattered to Russ that John knew he had it, he's getting paranoid, not thinking straight.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-06-09, 02:15 AM (EST) 110. "RE: John's post-game interviews" In his interview, John says that it's editing made it seem like the idol was the big deal. John had already told Dave, Monica, Brett, so there was no secret. He says Russell voted him out because John is a cool, rational, strategic player, which Russell doesn't tolerate. John is full of himself, but I agree that's why he was a threat. John wasn't afraid to make moves. All the Foa Foa agreed John was a threat. John says he and Mick were friends, so it wasn't personal. I guess what I'm saying is that Russell is thinking reasonably clearly. Also, Brett and Dave have an alliance that's not being shown (per John), but which must be more visible around camp. We don't see Brett, but Russell sees Dave, Monica, and Brett, a strong threesome. Shambo is on her own. At worst she doesn't vote how you want.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-11-09, 07:26 PM (EST) 113. "RE: John's post-game interviews" I thought this was funny from RNO's interview with John: You get involved in a conversation with him (Russell) and it’s funny because he has all these tricks to catch you off guard and he was good at it. What you haven’t seen is that Natalie was his little agent and she was good at setting up meetings with him. She’d say, “Hey, John, do you want to go get some water?” and you’d turn the corner for going to the well and he’s waiting for you. He catches you off guard because he’s prepared himself and he knows what he’s going to talk about but you don’t. You just have to be flexible. Why don't they show us stuff like this that Natalie is doing? It looks like she's doing nothing but washing her panties and spearing things.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 12-11-09, 10:52 AM (EST) 111. "Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews" Here's Dave's interview with RNO. Very funny guy and pretty self-aware of his strengths and weaknesses: http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10901.art&page=1 He says he planned the Erik boot for 3 days but now realizes it was all John and a big mistake on his part. (And he takes a few potshots at John and John's post-game comments.) The following 2 soundbites were also interesting: "During the final episode, Russell was making noises that he could flip on Shambo. Yeah right, you’re not giving away your crazy ace in the hole. That would be stupid to leave me here – I’m the biggest threat in the game. I can’t believe Mick and Jaison didn’t flip, but oh well." RNO: Was there anything else you saw on TV that you didn’t know about until that point? Dave: I didn’t know Russell was the player he was. I didn’t know he was pouring out people’s canteens. It was pretty funny that he was wearing the hidden immunity idol next to me in the dark and trying to make me look stupid. That was when there was a new moon so there was literally no light. You’ll forgive me if my rods and cones didn’t pick up on that – it’s not like I’m an idiot, it’s pitch black.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 12-11-09, 06:01 PM (EST) 112. "RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews" Here's Dave's ZapIt interview. I originally thought he'd respect game play and might vote for Russell, but no way after reading this! He says that it's a toss-up between Jaison and Mick for the worst game, so looks like he's voting Natalie. (And interestingly, he doesn't mention her at all in the interview.) Funny how they all say Brett's playing the best game, but we haven't really been shown any of it, other than his challenge wins. Oh, and it looks like Dave spoils that Russell never wins a challenge (unless he meant up to that point in the game). Here are the highlights: Why do you think Russell did that? (i.e. he said he's voting Shambo but voted Dave.) It's just how Russell does things. He lies, cheats and steals and then he brags about it. Those words came out of his mouth in that order in front of us repeatedly. That's how he said he was going to play. What do you think of Russell? Is he playing a strong game? Depends on how you define the game. If you think it's a game of challenges, then no because he didn't win any. He went on one reward that he was on with me and Brett and Laura, but other than that I don't think he's won one. If you think it's a social game, he's alienating a lot of people. Jeff Probst has said before that it's a social game, and he's ticked off a lot of people. If it's a social game, he's not playing a very good game. So are there any definitions of the game where you would say he's playing a strong game? When it comes to finding the Hidden Immunity Idol and playing 'em, he's playing a pretty good game at that. Honestly, when it comes to playing 'em he's still only one for two. But he played one at the right time and shifted the balance of power, so... Who is playing the best game right now? Brett, by far. He's playing an amazing social game, he's playing an amazing game at the challenges. Everybody loves him and he's an extraordinarily strong competitor. He is far and away the strongest player out there. If he makes it the finals, he will win a million dollars. Who is playing the worst game? Gosh... that's a tough one. There are so many weak games. Shambo's not really playing the game, she's just got to hurt whoever she can. I guess it's a toss-up between Mick and Jaison. Mick works his butt off around camp and that's definitely a significant part of the social game, so I'd say Jaison is playing the worst game of who is left. But of course he may have done things that I did not see. But when I was there, he seemed to spent a lot of his time sleeping on the beach. Here's the link if you want to read the entire interview: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/12/survivor-samoas-danger-dave-ball-im-a-great-player.html   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 12-11-09, 07:41 PM (EST) 114. "RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews" The RTVW interview is good -- Dave talks about how he and Brett approached Jaison to flip. They figured he was low man on the FF totem pole since he bid on the immunity advantage at the auction. Dave still seems bitter that Jaison didn't flip...in both the RTVW interview and the TV Guide interview he takes potshots that Mick and Jaison weren't playing the game. Perhaps this is why Brett goes after Jaison at F5 when he wins immunity.   Top

blueahh 54 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 12-13-09, 06:39 PM (EST) 115. "RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews" I think that is naive of Dave. Even if Jaison could go to the final three with Brett and Dave, there is more Galu on the jury so Jaison doesn't have a chance (and he knows it). If he starts to plea his case for game play (as he was trying to do when he was speaking to Monica on the beach), then he at least has a chance with an all FF final 3 against a Galu jury.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-14-09, 10:23 AM (EST) 116. "RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews" from this interview and webby's I think Dave votes for Natalie..or Mick. He says in his RTVW interview that he voted for the best player in all ways, strength, strategy, social....in the other interview above, he talks about how Russhell didn't play a good challenge game nor social game...So who played the best social game...Natalie...although Mick won a challenge and it is likely to win another late one   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 12-14-09, 10:44 AM (EST) 117. "RE: Dave Ball Post-Game Interviews" Emy, I think Dave votes Natalie, based on a Survivor Fans Podcast I just listened to. Here's what he had to say about each player: Brett: Best player...has it all - challenge winner, great social game, etc. Mick: "Betcha he's a good doctor." (That's all he would say...clearly his comments here and in other interviews show that he's still bitter that Jaison and Mick wouldn't flip.) Jaison: "He's very tall." (And that's it - basically implied he and Mick had no game.) Russell: He's quite the HII player. And he has Shambo buffalo'd. (In other parts of the interview he says Russell was a "loser" and a "showoff" and some other nasty names I won't repeat. He also says that during the Schmergenbrawl challenge, he knocked RussHell down so hard that Russell threw up, but they didn't show it. Natalie: She's playing an extraordinary social game, she's sweet as a peach, and ultimately Survivor is a social game. Dave says he's voting on overall game play, including all dimensions (challenges, social, strategy, etc.) So I'd say Dave is a Natalie vote and will not consider Mick. The only thing niggling me is that in his Final Comments and even the Ponderosa clips, Dave talks about how Russell was an awesome player, etc. and sure sounds like a solid Russell vote. So obviously post-game he's totally changed his tune. Did that all happen during Ponderosa while comparing notes with other players? Or did it happen after watching the season on TV? One interviewer basically asked that question, and Dave said he was just being gracious in his final comments -- hmmmm, not sure if I buy that. Dave is not the gracious type and he's not afraid at all now to totally take potshots at Russell.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 12-14-09, 10:06 PM (EST) 118. "Monica's Zap It Interview" No surprises here...looks like more confirmation that this jury won't vote for Russell: Speaking of Russell, do you think he's playing a good game? I definitely think Russell is playing a good game. He went in and he shifted the numbers in Foa Foa's favor. We never saw that coming. We definitely underestimated Russell's game. Has he played a good game to win a million dollars? No. He's furthered his position in the game but I don't think that he really invested in the social game, in making sure he can get those jury votes. If he makes the Final Two, Three, whatever it is, I think he's going to have to make some strong points to sway the jury in his favor. You don't think he'd get votes rewarding his good game play, for playing all the Galu people? No, I don't. He may get some votes, but I don't think he'll get a majority of the votes by just playing that card. Out of the people left, who is playing the best game? There are two different aspects to it. The best game for getting to the finals? Definitely Russell. The best game for jury votes? I'd say a toss-up between Natalie and Brett. Looking at them, they're the only ones who have made some strong moves to ensure their positions and they're so likable. A combination of strong strategic moves mixed with the likability that they have. Here's the link if you want to read the entire article: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/12/survivor-samoas-monica-padilla-russell-wont-win-the-million-dollars.html   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-14-09, 10:55 PM (EST) 119. "Monica's RTVW (Blows) Interview" At least she isn't as delusional as Danger Dave. http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-monica-padilla-talks-about-survivor-samoa-10094.php Whether or not I did it to make good TV like certain people or whether or not they showed it, I definitely had a lot of game play and a lot of strategy going into it that got me as far as I did. ... I hope that it will be in the fact that it might help Natalie and hurt Jaison. ... At least two of the people are strong members of my alliance. So, I knew that I definitely had an impact when it came to the jury. ... I was telling a version of the truth. When you're sitting there and you're about to vote to give someone $1 million, I think financial need is a consideration. Personally, for me it is. For some people it wouldn't be, they'd be basing it completely on game play. But for me, I would consider financial need. Do I think it would be my sole consideration? Absolutely not. I think there's a lot of varieties that go into who you vote for when you're on the jury. It goes into financial need, it goes into game play, it goes into how you treated other people, what kind of game you played -- a lot of aspects go into deciding who wins that $1 million. ... At that point, the producers want to make good TV. Can you blame them? It's a TV show. So I think it's harder to show Brett, who sits back a little bit and waits to make his moves. I think he definitely analyzes his enemies and where his place is in the game, which I think is really strong strategic game play.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 12-15-09, 09:35 AM (EST) 120. "RE: Monica's RTVW (Blows) Interview" Thanks Dabo. I thought the RTVW interview was a good one too. And I agree, Monica is a lot more rational vs. Dave. Dave tries too hard to be funny and say outrageous things.... and he clearly has a few axes to grind (John, Shambo, Russell, Jaison, Mick...the list goes on!).   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-18-09, 08:13 PM (EST) 121. "Sham." http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-shannon-shambo-waters-talks-about-survivor-samoa-10122.php Warning: reading of interview may cause temporary lowering of IQ, frequent beating of head against wall, vows never to watch this bloody series again, and obsessive sharpening of blades while muttering syllables which do not in any way sound like the names of casting directors, hosts, and executive producers. Oh, and you won't be able to eat for six hours.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-21-09, 11:24 AM (EST) 122. "RussHell Interviews" http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10935.art&page=1 Russell: Because nobody had ever seen anybody play as hard as me. I embarrassed them so much they had to put Natalie’s name down. People say I didn’t play a social game. I had a huge social game – I had Natalie on my coattails. I had Mick, Jaison, and Shambo following me. That’s why nobody put my name down. I’m like Jesse James – you don’t want to draw your guns on him. They were scared to death of me. The difference between me and Jesse is I’m never going to take my guns off. It’s crazy. But really, in real life, he's a great guy, nicest most loyal guy you'd ever meet. Everyone loves him. I just hope they let him win every board game on family game night. Because if how you handle adversity shows your true self...   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-21-09, 11:29 AM (EST) 123. "RE: RussHell Interviews" ...then his true self is going to have a four-month second showing, because this interview shows he's not capable of learning. Do you think he'd ever walk into our saloon and try to pull his verbal guns on us? Or would he rather just spend his time listening to the voice in his head?   Top

Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 12-21-09, 12:04 PM (EST) 124. "RE: RussHell Interviews" I just don't think Russ gets it. He can't see past his own awsomeness. People don't like being told how to vote, who should win, how great you are. If you think that makes you a good social player, then you are truly blind to your own actions. I for one would have voted for Natalie over Russ if I was on the jury. She also had a hand in voting everyone off, but was still able to make people like her and want to vote for her. The fact that Shambo (truly a clueless person, if ever there was one), voted for him and she was never on the same page voting wise for the whole game, shows that he was never going to win jury votes. BOO HOO Russ. You lost, and you deserved to lose for the simple fact that you never connected with anyone (Shambo excluded) who you needed to vote you the million dollars. He never grasped the fact when Jeff says, the power slowly shifts to the jury now, He just kept pissing them off Tribal after Tribal. He sealed his own fate. And, IMO, if this season has aired prior to S20 filming, he would have been the first to go. It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-21-09, 12:27 PM (EST) 125. "RE: RussHell Interviews" My my my isn't Russell the angry little person. What a moron. He didn't win because people didn't think he deserved to win. He doesn't get it. A tribe glows in Brooklyn   Top

blueahh 54 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 12-21-09, 06:06 PM (EST) 129. "RE: RussHell Interviews" Funny that he applied for Pirate Master first.   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-21-09, 07:05 PM (EST) 130. "RE: RussHell Interviews RTVW" http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-russell-hantz-talks-about-his-survivor-samoa-upset-10131.php   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-21-09, 07:08 PM (EST) 131. "RE: RussHell Interviews RTVW" So here's just one more question for him: Why should I ever believe anything you say?   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-21-09, 04:54 PM (EST) 126. "Jaison Interview" RTVW http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-jaison-robinson-discusses-his-survivor-samoa-experience-10127.php   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-21-09, 05:02 PM (EST) 127. "Mick Interview" RTVW http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-mick-trimming-talks-about-his-survivor-samoa-journey-10129.php   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-21-09, 05:23 PM (EST) 128. "Natalie Interview" RTVW http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-natalie-white-discusses-her-survivor-samoa-victory-10130.php   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-22-09, 07:54 PM (EST) 132. "Some Guy Named Brett" Claims he was on this season of survivor http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-brett-clouser-discusses-his-survivor-samoa-experience-10136.php   Top

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