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"Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Camile has getting a lot of flak lately simply because she has not yet been eliminated. Well, I think that a lot of people like her and think that she has talent. In case others think that she should go, I think that Jon Stevens should go before her. He messed up the lyrics of his song last week, then he was completely terrible this week.
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 RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... Mistral 03-31-04 1
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... lyrker 03-31-04 6
 RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... DmajA 03-31-04 2
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... shedevil 03-31-04 3
       RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... DmajA 03-31-04 7
       RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... frisky 04-01-04 11
           RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... ginger 04-01-04 17
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... popcorn_with_sam 03-31-04 5
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... CantStandToLook 04-01-04 15
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... HawaiiRaine 04-02-04 20
 RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... IslandFever 03-31-04 4
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... DmajA 03-31-04 8
       RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... ManilaESQ 03-31-04 9
           RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... shedevil 03-31-04 10
           RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... DmajA 04-02-04 23
 voting Angelfood 04-01-04 12
 RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... mochacchino23 04-01-04 13
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... leogirl_21 04-01-04 14
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... ManilaESQ 04-01-04 18
       RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... pinay 04-01-04 19
 RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... EnglProf 04-01-04 16
 RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... ElroyJetson 04-02-04 21
 RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... BriarRosie 04-02-04 22
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... Karennz 04-03-04 24
       RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... escapedude 04-03-04 25
           RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... shedevil 04-04-04 26
               RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... kelli_blue 04-04-04 27
 RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... callalilly3000 04-04-04 28
   RE: Jon Stevens must go first befor... momzilla 04-04-04 29

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Mistral 205 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I agree, John was lousy this week, but Camille has been lousy every week.

And I'm still convinced people are only voting for her because she is a cute girl and not because she can sing. And unfortunately, those are the people who seem to vote the most.

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6. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I agree, John was lousy this week, but Camille has been lousy every week.

I think they've both been pretty evenly underpar since the auditions. Maybe the live audience is too much for them both.

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2. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I said this before, and I'll say it again...

I think that Camile DOES have talent. We just can't see it because she lets her nerves get the best of her. If she would learn to relax and just have fun, then she would be awesome, but until then, there are alot of other people doing a MUCH better job than her.

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3. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Jon is boring but has only sounded truly bad once. Camille has a nice "tone" but can't control it, plus she looks constipated when she sings, what I mean by that is, she looks like she is in pain. I am not going to vote for someone who doesn't look like they belong on stage. For instance, like JPL or not, he always looks comfortable and confident on stage.

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7. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
That is exactly what I am talking about.
I love JPL because of his personality. He is so outgoing and has awesome stage presence.
I think Camile sounds the way she does ("constepated"-as you say) because she is so nervous. If she could let that go, i think she could be pretty good.

That isn't enough to make me vote for her though. There are better people that are already confident and comfortable...i dont have the patience to wait for her to come around.

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11. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Constipation!! That's it!

I've been trying to place that facial expression. You nailed it for me, She. Thanks!

I think she screws up her face like Rene Zellweger when she sings. She looks like a constipated Rene Zellweger.


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17. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
LAST EDITED ON 04-01-04 AT 03:57 PM (EST)

I though the sequel to Brigid Jones' Diary wasn't due in theaters for several months now.


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5. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
It pains me to watch her sing. I really feel sorry for her. She does look completely terrified.

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15. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
If Camille can't get over her nerves here...she'll never be able to get over them in an actual concert setting. She needs a few more years and maybe some singing lessons and then come back...but you know they never get to come back (see Lisa whateverhernamewas) so she's pretty much blowin her shot here.

As the numbers drop down, the truly awful will be snuffed.



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20. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I agree....It looks like she's more relaxed and having more fun performing in those Ford videos. If that persona was more evident in her actual performance she COULD do better.
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4. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Camille cannot sing. If you like her because she is cute, put her in a beauty contest. The same for Leah. Neither has a decent voice. John was bad this week but very good last week. He has potential. And a lot of teeny boppers and tweens who loooove him.
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8. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I honestly don't even think that Camile is that cute.

You say that John has potential...well, alot of them have potential, but in this stage of the show it isnt about potential anymore to a certain extent. They need to be proving that they are already awesome, not that they can get there eventually. He might have potential, but for as far as he has to go...i dont think he can get there in time to earn my vote.

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9. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Still, don't gang up on Camile. Jon Stevens must go before her.
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10. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
You say that like what you say goes.. um.. no we will gang up on Camille all we want.

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23. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I don't even care what order they go in. As long as they both go in the next two weeks, thats all i care about.
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12. "voting"
one group wants John gone first.
One group wants Camille gone first.
So they vote for that goal.

THAT"S why tonight happened, people!


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13. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I think they were both terrible and hopefully both will be gone in the next two weeks. John wouldn't have been voted off just because he forgot his words because he covered it very well. If you watched the show last season you'll remember that Clay forgot his words and couldn't even finish the song, but he wasn't punished for it.
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14. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Both must go...doesn't matter who goes first and who goes second to me but both need to go...
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18. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
When Clay forgot the lyrics of the song (Vincent), it was just one of three songs he sang that night. He was very good in the 2 other songs that it completely made up for his booboo.

Jon Stevens only sang one song, and it was a complete mess bec he forgot the words. La La La... Then, he followed it up with the most terrible performance ever!

I still say, he must go before everybody else!

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19. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I agree that Jon Stevens should be the next to go. He should've been gone since Day 1 of the finals. But I trust A31 voters to finally see behind those red hair. ):
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16. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
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I would buy a John Stevens CD before I'd buy a cd from any of the others. Hands down. John isn't polished, but I like his voice. I even think he could sing something besides Sinatra-type stuff successfully, but so far he's refused to branch out. There are pop singers with high quality, unique voices. Unfortunately American Idol and record producers seems to want young stars who can hit the notes but without anything unique.
Excellent example: Jasmine. So she can USUALLY hit the notes and she belts it out, but would you recognize her voice if you heard it on the radio? I don't think so, and the same goes for: Diana, Amy, Jennifer, Kimberly Locke (judging by the song she same the other night. It sounded good but completely plain. Nothing special about her voice.)

Camille is weak and frightened, so she should not last long, but I think she at least has a unique quality to her voice-- meaning I can pick it out from a crowd. The problem with her voice, though, is that it sounds like she's singing through a can with a stuffed up nose. She's lost the ability to turn what is unique about her voice into a positive. She lost that edgy-Lauryn Hill thing long before she went on live tv.


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21. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
At least John Stevens has a voice and isn't afraid of being on stage. Camille is nearly talent-less. John Stevens will have a career in music while Camille will be cleaning surfboards or waitressing at "Kamehameha's Kokonut Kafe."

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22. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Anyone who butchers one of my favorite songs, "Desperado", has got to go. Immediately. I don't understand why she's still there.

I think a few contestants are tone deaf or something, because every time I heard a pitchy performance, Randy or Paula confirm that my ears weren't wrong.

I love the redheaded kid, John Stevens, but he needs more seasoning. He's paprika and needs to be cayenne. Vocal coaching may or may not help the poor lad.

And I don't get the "JPL" phenomenon. He's cute, but he
reminds me of Frodo Baggins.

I root for Jennifer because she's a hometown girl, but I think LaToya (and poor Amy!) were my faves.

I hope Camille is booted out next week.

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24. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Lori said: "I love the redheaded kid, John Stevens, but he needs more seasoning. He's paprika and needs to be cayenne."

That's a very interesting analogy, and I do agree. But I think John Stevens will be just fine with a little time and a lot more life experience under his belt. The genre of music he likes to sing (Sinatra, Dean Martin, etc.) really doesn't work well coming out of a sixteen-year-old kid's mouth. lol

But John has a great natural voice for starters. And that's more than some of those AI finalists have. Plus, I'm glad that John is exposing AI viewers to a genre of music that they normally wouldn't listen to!

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25. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
>>I am not going to vote for someone who doesn't look like they belong on stage. For instance, like JPL or not, he always looks comfortable and confident on stage.>>

He looks like a dork especially when he dances.!

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26. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I believe you were quoting something I said.I don't think he looks like a dork when he dances, but I said "comfortable and confident", which he is, by the way Mick Jagger is the ultimate dork when it come to dancing and he's RICH RICH RICH.

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27. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I think both Camile AND John should have been in the B2 last week, and was VERY suprised they weren't. Neither has had a really, really good performance in the T12 competition...maybe they're too young, or just can't take the pressure, but both should go soon!
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28. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
Camile is terrible. It just isn't her nerves. She doesn't have a great voice. Does it really matter who gets voted out first? Neither one of them (John or Camile), are going to make it to the top five anyway.
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29. "RE: Jon Stevens must go first before Camile"
I agree with callilily (sp) I don't understand any votes for Jon Stevens...he is not a soloist....a choir boy yes...average voice yes.....probably a nice guy but.....it hurts to watch and listen to him sing.........he's young......he'll get over it. I think Camille is a better singer.....but not an entertainer! But as long as entire high schools vote for their students....American Idol is in trouble!
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