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39. "RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab..."
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1. How the statue was broken and how the Black Rock ended up in the middle of the Island
2. Where and when Richard came from
3. The root of the conflict between Jacob and MIB. White and dark. Good and evil. And the balance. MIB is all things evil, a darkness, a hell, and it wants to escape containment and spread over the world....wants to send them "all" to Hell. The island contains the evil. The evil feels that all men can be corrupted. Jacob believes that good will ultimately prevail.

I come to think of the Island as a portal, a door that MIB wants to break out of . A portal that Jacob was guardian to, and now one of the candidates will be.

4. The only way MIB can escape the confines of the Island is to kill Jacob.
5. Jacob replied that when he is gone, there will be another protector after him, to which MIB replies that he will then kill them.
6. MIB is capable of deception and temptation....
7. Richard was given a job by Jacob as the intermediary for the people that Jacob brings to the Island....the others.
8. MIB told Richard that his offer to reunite Richard with Isabella still stood, and he gave him her pendant. Richard buried it, perhaps because he didn't want to be reminded of the "temptation".
9. When Richard agrees to the job and is granted eternal life, Jacob is able to "one up" MIB, thus gives him the white stone.
10. Again, at the end, Isabella tells Richard via Hurley, that if Richard does'nt stop the MIB from leaving the Island, "we will all go to Hell".

Questions:

Which "one" of the candidates will prove that they are not corrupt?

Hasn't Sawyer already proven it. Especially when they were fleeing the Island in the heavily loaded helicopter, and he unselfishly gave up on his dream of leaving the Island, so that his friends could survive. Also, note that this is the temptation that MIB is using to recruit Sawyer as well...to get off the Island. I like to think that indeed Sawyer would sacrifice himself to spare his friends....again. Just as James sacrificed his quest to pursue "Sawyer" in the sideways world to regain his friendship and trust in Miles, his friend.

Hurley: Has Hurley ever been shown to be corrupt? Everybody loves Hugo. Hurley and his ability to talk to dead people seems to be a candidate to take Richard's place on the Island to me, perhaps...What could he be tempted with? Libby? Apollo bars?

Jack: What will Jack be tempted with? Will he fall for it....he wants to fix things, wants to fix the past, can't let go of the past to move on. He's "fixated".

Sayid: Tempted with Nadia, and has taken the temptation hook, line, and sinker. But, will he help MIB with his attempt to free the Island. He did kill Dogan, but now he seems spent. I think Sayid is "lost", but he has been corrupted. As has Claire, imo. (Therefore the "sickness" means that they are corrupted?)

Sun/Jin: It looks like next week Sun will be tempted by MIB/XLocke with being reunited with Jin. But, this to me seems inevitable as they are both on the Island in the same time frame, and Ilana needs to find Jin.

Locke: What is going to happen with Locke, I am beginning to think that perhaps Locke will rise again if and when the MIB is killed....I don't know if the real John Locke story is really over or not.

Kate: I can't help but to consider Kate. Clearly, she's been tempted with Aaron and Claire, and XLocke is playing with her emotions and the thought of the crazy mother. But Kate is strong, imo, and is driven by worthy motives.

Ben: I also want to think about him. Might he be a candidate? He's come full circle and has redeemed himself, at least to Ilana. He has been tempted by MIB with the offer to rule the Island, once XLocke is gone. He's been tempted and he perservered, he was not corrupted by the evil darkness that is XLocke.

Regarding all of the apparitions that appear on the Island. Most importantly Mr. Eko's brother, Christian, and now Isabella. With Isabella, we saw that smokey was on the screen at the same time that Isabella was....they were two different entities, no? Also, wasn't smokey and Mr. Eko's brother also on the screen together? MIB is able to make these apparitions appear, but he is not them?? Still don't know exactly how this happens. But, it seems to me that these apparitions are made by MIB as ways to manipulate and tempt the candidates or potential candidates?

Important to note that Isabella appeared first to Richard as an apparition on the slave ship, before she left when Smokey had arrived. Then, later with Hurley, she never appeared to Richard....she appeared as a dead person only to Hurley, who we know can see dead people. So, she appeared one time as an apparition.

More questions:

How will Richard be able to stop the MIB from leaving the Island? Will he seek to restore protection of the Island by making the choice between the candidates. How will they narrow the "one" down? What tests must they pass? How will it become apparent....?

Is Widmore there with his own agenda and how will that affect the conflict that is occuring between white and black on the Island? Remember, Widmore did know about the "war" that was coming to the island. As much as I am convinced that Widmore is evil, he was the one that recruited John Locke to return with the Island and to recruit all of the other Oceanic Six to return with him. It seems as if he knew "the candidates" all had to go back to succeed Jacob. But, nevertheless, to me, it seems as if Widmore has another selfish motive, perhaps to exploit the special properties of the island.

And, what is in the locked quarters? Desmond perhaps? What else, who else could it be?

Interesting points in the episode:

1. Magnus Hanso was the owner of the Black Rock
2. MIB said the "nice to see you out of those chains, Richard"....again.
3. MIB said the exact same thing that Dogan said to Sayid when he gave the same dagger to Sayid...."you have one chance to kill him, plunge the knife into his chest, don't hesitate or let him speak before you do it, as he's very persuasive"....etc.
...and I am sure there is more that I am missing here.

Great show with alot of confirmations. Looks like next week will be about Sun.




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 Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab Aet...   mrc     03-22-10       
   RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   zombiebaby     03-23-10     1  
     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Breezy     03-23-10     2  
     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   frodis     03-23-10     3  
   RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   moonbaby     03-23-10     4  
   RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Tummy     03-23-10     5  
     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   zombiebaby     03-24-10     6  
         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     8  
             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Breezy     03-24-10     9  
                 RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Tummy     03-24-10     10  
                     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Breezy     03-24-10     14  
                         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   frodis     03-24-10     20  
                             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   blacknwhitedog     03-24-10     28  
                                 RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   frodis     03-24-10     29  
                                     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     46  
                                         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   frodis     03-24-10     47  
                                             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     50  
                                             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   frodis     03-24-10     56  
                                             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     57  
                                         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   zombiebaby     03-24-10     61  
                                             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     63  
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                                 RE: Plus   michel     03-24-10     62  
                 RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     45  
             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   frodis     03-24-10     18  
                 RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     51  
                     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Tummy     03-24-10     55  
     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Breezy     03-24-10     7  
         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Tummy     03-24-10     12  
             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Carezy     03-24-10     13  
                 RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   weltek     03-24-10     48  
                     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     52  
                         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   zombiebaby     03-24-10     59  
                             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     64  
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                 RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     53  
                     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   zombiebaby     03-24-10     60  
                         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     66  
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                                 RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-25-10     78  
                                     really?   zombiebaby     03-25-10     82  
                                         RE: really?   michel     03-25-10     85  
                                             RE: really?   Outfrontgirl     03-25-10     86  
                                             RE: really?   michel     03-25-10     88  
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         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   zombiebaby     03-24-10     42  
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     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-24-10     54  
         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Tummy     03-24-10     67  
             RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-25-10     72  
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                     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-25-10     79  
                         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Tummy     03-25-10     84  
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                                     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   michel     03-26-10     90  
                                         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Tummy     03-26-10     91  
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     RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   frodis     03-24-10     26  
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         RE: Discussion Thread Ep. 6.09: "Ab...   Max Headroom     03-24-10     35  
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