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"Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews."
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"Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Discussion of what they said, just how badly it came out, how they tried to spin it afterwards, and what we can learn from it goes here. For starters, we have Michelle -- http://tinyurl.com/48ausp -- and we've already learned several things. 1. She's stupid.
2. She's delusional.
3. If it was at all possible, her tribe would have voted her out earlier than first.
4. (Censored) recruits...
5. Editor's notes can be hilarious. 
Who wants to vote her out of the thread?
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2. "Pousterviews?" |
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09-29-08, 08:54 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
LAST EDITED ON 09-29-08 AT 08:55 AM (EST){straight face}Gee, I can't imagine why they would pick her last or vote her out the very first chance the got.{/straight face} It is almost refreshing to find someone that cares so little about how she comes across to others. Almost. Can I vote her off the planet? ETF: Fake HTML tags.
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09-29-08, 01:43 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Here's a clip of Michelle's parting words, Bebo, proving your theory correct.A couple of highlights: It really doesn't make sense to me that they decided to keep Gillian, who's, like, 105, and me, who's 24 and completely fit. They're all idiots. They're all voting off, like, one of their strongest members, so, um, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. Very interesting. She also had a couple of other tidbits: I don't really understand the young men's decision on the tribe. Does she think the young men should've kept her because she's "hot"? I don't think that my attire is appropriate for this environment, and that might have hurt me a little bit apparently. And there's really nothing I could have done about that; I didn't get to choose what I wore. So ... whatever. What does this mean? Who told her how to dress? And did that same person force Dan to wear a tie to TC? And in other news, Gillian hopes the "magic of Africa" will provide a "brilliant Survivor twist" to bring her back in the game. 
Part of the Manga tribe
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09-29-08, 06:50 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Chris's theory was that the producers just wanted all the players to freeze out there.Or wilt ... Remember how much fun Jeff made of the heavy jeans that Lydia 'chose' to bring to a steamy Guatemala? And of Lydia? Kind of makes you wonder just who was making Hatch's daily wardrobe decisions, doesn't it? G
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13. "RE: Gillian" |
Gillian recognized an Olympian gold medal winner, from 2004 I think, a member of the womens 440 relay team. That is fairly astounding, if true, even for a dedicated Olympic fan.I have to have some skeptism because I doubt that I would resognize any of the Olympians outside of the Olympic context. Maybe if I saw Phelps on the street I might recognize him. But if a member of one of his relay teams walked by I very much doubt that I would, especially 4 years later. I can't help but think that something else happend to tip Gillian off to Crystal. Sure, she looks and is atheletic, but to recognize her as an Olympic runner is a bit of a stretch. Just from her build I'd be more likely to guess basketball player. Gillian had more introspection than Michelle (no big feat there). But she sure seemed to have a higher opinion of her atheletic ability than I have if she thought she wasn't the weakest link in physical competitions. It's obvious that the producers cast her to fill the token 'old eccentric lady' role, and that her goal was to not get voted off first.
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10-01-08, 10:54 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Gillian" |
Or maybe the two women spend time together as pre-merge boots and she finds out at that time? I highly doubt Gillian knew beforehand that Crystal was gold-medalist. I'll bet she's blending some memories together.
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10-01-08, 05:33 PM (EST)
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18. "Gillian blows" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-01-08 AT 05:34 PM (EST)"I had learned that Africa reveres their elders so I knew I was going to be one of the pickers when I saw that Robert Crowley was also in the cast. So I knew the two of us were going to pick, so I had given it a lot of thought. I knew that Crystal was an Olympic runner because I'm a huge Olympics fan and I just knew that when I went in because of that whole thing, so... our first challenge I just knew I needed a counterpart to my weakness..." That is the worst type of post show interview possible. All those "I knew" indicate one thing: Gillian is spinning the story to make herself look good. What's worse is that she may have spoiled the season when she wrote: "So it was really between either her or Marcus Lehman". Since that looks to be part of her spin, what better way to look good than to say that you had immediately pegged Marcus as the best player out there. BTW, Gillian is also the worse type of DAW. I read that she posted at Sucks before the season started, asking for votes as the player of the season!!!!
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10-04-08, 01:19 AM (EST)
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21. "Does Paloma give us a clue? " |
From the interview:Paloma: From watching the show it felt like Corrine didn't like me as well But watching the tribal vote she said "I really, really, really like you and I don't want this to happen" so I was actually surprised that she actually liked me! - - - Does this imply she didn't talk to Corrine after being booted? Like maybe Corrine went as far as the jury, and was not an early exit (I don't know about any "boot lists" or even if one exists). It could be nothing, but I wanted to point it out. 
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10-04-08, 11:41 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Does Paloma give us a clue? " |
I think Paloma also highlighted who might be the most likely next boots from her tribe: Kelly and Bob. They might get new life after a tribal shake up but I feel those already in the main alliance would work behind the scenes to boot Kelly or Bob in the next few episodes.
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10-06-08, 06:39 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Does Paloma give us a clue? " |
this sounds like a big clue! proof that corrine makes the jury, i would say...
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10-14-08, 11:57 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Jacque interviews with BuddyTV, TVguide, RNO" |
from jacque's interview with Buddy TV: http://www.buddytv.com/articles/survivor/exclusive-interview-jacquie-of-23519.aspxBTV: Who were you aligning yourself with in this game?
J: Originally, Charlie, Corinne, and Marcus but I also had an alliance with Sugar and Ace. Sugar actually told me that she had the immunity idol so I knew that if she had joined our team, we would have come out on top. BTV: Do you think it’s smart for tribes to vote out strong physical players before the merge?
J: Oh no, it was horrible – horrible of Fang. Every single decision that they made sucked. I honestly could not believe… I mean, it was smart of them ‘cause I was gonna go with other people but they’re just digging their grave. They weren’t thinking strategically. They have one opinion there, which was Crystal, and she was influencing all their votes. As you can tell, she’s surrounding herself with weak people. from TVguide: http://www.kren.com/Global/story.asp?S=9169062
TVGuide.com: When you ended up on the Fang tribe what did you do to fend off being kicked out?
Jacquie: A million things. I tried to strategize with Ace. We knew if we ever lost the challenge that Sugar was going to come. We even contemplated throwing the challenge just to get Sugar because we had an alliance. Matty was on our side as well because he didn’t have a real tight alliance with Crystal, Kenny or G.C. Also, I went to Kelly as another option and tried to convince her to stick with me and Ace and probably Matty and vote out Kenny, because he was the weakest link. All strategizing talk went right over Kelly’s head. She had it in her head that she was going to get me and Ace out and that was it. TVGuide.com: So what is it with Fang? Why can’t this tribe get its act together?
Jacquie: Going over was complete culture shock. It was like the whole aura over there it was deceitful; nobody trusted anybody. As soon as we went over there everyone was talking behind each other’s back. No one liked each other and there was complaining the whole time. from RNO: http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=4&article=article8421.art&page=1
RNO: What was the most eye-opening thing you saw on TV that you didn’t know about while you were there?
Jacquie: I guess honestly, how smart Kenny was. For him picking Kelly because she was the lowest person on the totem pole – I thought he picked her because she was hot. Also, they were pretty smart in knowing I wasn’t genuine. I was shocked at how strategic particularly Kenny was. RNO: What was the problem in the immunity challenge – it was difficult to tell if your tribemates couldn’t figure it out or just weren’t trying?
Jacquie: They were just horrible athletes. Kenny and Crystal couldn’t move. They actually moved out of the goal area, which left it wide open. GC was no help. Kelly was absolutely no help. It was only me, Matty, and Ace doing anything. I thought Crystal was actually crying in her boat, like really scared being out in the open water. We actually placed Crystal in the goal and told her all you need to do is stay here, and she couldn’t even do that. RNO: We saw that you tried hard, but in hindsight, do you think you could have done anything differently to change the outcome of the vote?
Jacquie: Yeah. They all promised me they were going to vote out Kelly, so I seriously felt really safe – I said I was nervous but I felt safe. Kenny and Matty promised almost their life they weren’t going to vote me out. In hindsight, I could have tried to vote out Ace or tried to get Kelly on my side. I did try, but what didn’t work for me is she didn’t play very strategically. Her, me, Ace, and Matty tried to bond and it didn’t work, it went right over her head. She had it in her head that she was going to get me and Ace out, even though I thought that was poor strategy on her part.
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10-14-08, 01:00 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Jacque interviews with BuddyTV, TVguide, RNO" |
putting this together with the info from jacque's ouster interviews....matty is as likely to align with sugar and ace as he is to align with ken and crystal...ken is being shown as more strategic, and crystal is the opinion maker...maybe sugar, ace, ken and matty align to oust crystal...since the CBS clues say nothing about the HII other than it is found, it is likely not in play this week...or maybe not, working against this theory is OFG theory...
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10-17-08, 10:41 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: GC" |
I dunno, Estee. I think this is a bit telling:Reality TV World: Could you speak a little bit about your relationship with Crystal? At some times it seemed like you two got along alright but at other times you two were at each other's throats. G.C.: Yeah it was one of those relationships. (laughs) I think Crystal is... she's the type of person who I would probably talk to or hang out with in real life or whatever. But out there on the show it was just difficult to deal with her sometimes. I have a strong personality she has a strong personality and, you know, we just kind of butted heads sometimes.Sounds to me like he didn't have any other interaction with Crystal other than at camp. He would "probably talk to or hang out with her in real life" but out there they butted heads. Tells me he didn't get the chance to find out whether or not they would get along outside of the game. For the most part, he's talking about her in the past tense. Reality TV World: Ace Gordon seems to be a "love him or hate him" kind of guy. What did you think of him? G.C.: I think Ace was pretty cool actually. I know that a lot of people don't like him, but I respect him. I like him because he is different and he's pretty unique. He might not be like me and we may not agree on everything but he's still a good guy. Now there is a LOT more familiarity here, and he's talking about him in the present tense i.e. not about being "out there." I'd say there's more chance that he got to know Ace at Loser Lodge than Crystal, but I hope I'm wrong because DH has Ace in his office pool. Reality TV World: Is there anyone that you'd like to see win? G.C.: Yeah man. Somebody from the Fang tribe, hopefully. At least hints that Fang doesn't get annihilated before the merge. Also, I don't think he would say this if Ken and Crystal made it to LL. He's already admitted to Webby that he didn't like Dan and Randy, and he doesn't mention Susie except perhaps that's the "old lady" reference, so the people he would really root for from original Thong would be Ken and Crystal.
 
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11-01-08, 02:39 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Ace." |
In his blog, JP emphatically states that Ace was blind-sided.Let's be extremely clear. Ace was blindsided. Major blindside. He doesn't want to admit it but it's true. Ace doesn't agree ... Absolutely not because there's an interview -- if he really wants to argue about it -- right before me going to Tribal Council with me saying I'm about to be assassinated. He can... I don't know the most polite way to put that. Does JP just make up his own truths, and expect that we will always blindly believe him? I liked Ace well enough, not my favorite, and not a gotta watch character like JFP, but okay. I didn't see him still playing in the end game. And he was no were as deluded as Kelly.
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11-03-08, 01:17 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Dan" |
After reading these two interviews, I'm not sure if there are any Goods left for a Good v. Evil. It seems that Marcus and Corrine who have been up to last ep. seen as more "good" were hidden bc Uthong was always at TC. They are actually the evil ones with Randy imho
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11-04-08, 02:30 AM (EST)
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47. "ace and dan" |
they share an interview on the CBS website where the insider clips are found...
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11-14-08, 09:49 PM (EST)
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50. "Charlie" |
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-charlie-herschel-talks-about-his-time-on-survivor-gabon-8010.phpOne of the more interesting things here: Kenny's maybe not the mastermind he thinks he is. Reality TV World: When I talked with Ace Gordon a couple of weeks ago, he'd disagreed with the idea that Kenny had become a strong strategic player. Do you agree or disagree with that and how apparent was Kenny's sudden rise to power among the other castaways? Charlie: I agree with Ace. I think that last night was a complete display of that. He had a personal grudge against me and decided to lie to his alliance and put his credibility on the line because of a personal vendetta against me. I'm not sure if that's a strategic move. I don't see that as a "mastermind" move. Had it been for a strategic reason, then I would applaud that. When he convinced Sugar to vote out Ace? I commend him for that. But otherwise I think he's made a lot of errors in this game. He's been on the lucky side of many twists, whenever he's been down in numbers in his tribe there's been some sort of twist to put him into a power position. He's made some good moves, and he's made some bad moves. I would never call him a mastermind.
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11-15-08, 08:17 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Charlie" |
I don't think they're going to edit based on Jeff Probst's favorites...
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11-15-08, 07:59 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Charlie" |
Even taking the grain of salt, Charlie pointed out something I noticed back when Ace was booted, Kenny isn't just manipulating but inventing or embellishing things in order to manipulate. That sort of tactic could come back to haunt him later in the game.
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11-21-08, 06:54 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Randy." |
He'll be so much fun at the finale. I was surprised he called Crystal to apologize for the posse/gang comment. I notice he didn't mention he called GC though.
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11-22-08, 10:19 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Randy." |
It sounds like Crystal spent some quality time with Randy at Loser Lodge developing a more respectful relationship with him.
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11-22-08, 11:41 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: Randy." |
Reality TV World: Do you think Matty really thought Bob was the bigger physical threat than you or do you think he had some other ulterior motive for wanting to keep you around? Randy: He probably had an ulterior motive, but another thing I noticed he said that was funny was -- and this might have been gameplay on his part, we'll have to ask him -- he said "Randy has no chance of winning any of the challenges coming up." This bugs Randy. He'll "have to ask him." Reality TV World: Okay, well I guess one thing was when you were talking about Crystal and How about those Tribal Council comments where you talked about Crystal and and you called them a "posse" and a "gang." Randy: I knew you were talking about that. I didn't... I said Crystal was with her "posse" was running the tribe like a "gang." And when I said it, you know, I meant it, and I didn't mean it in a racist way at all. What you didn't see... Well, no I'm not even gonna go there. I'm not gonna defend it. But yeah, when I watched show I admit I cringed. I could see where that came off the wrong way. I called Crystal, I apologized. I said I did not mean it like that. She accepted it and we both moved on. Is that what you wanted? This bugs Randy. He calls her and apologizes. So why contact one and not the other? Are there rules for no contact with the finalists? Just a hunch.
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11-23-08, 12:06 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: Randy." |
Another way to read those comments is that he called Crystal after seeing something embarrassing in an episode, a few weeks ago. Matty's comments, he saw the night before the interview, and hadn't talked to Matty in the short time since. It was a minor event, and would not have likely come up if they spent time together in the jury, but was something interesting he noted while watching the episode, so he was curious to ask Matty about it the next time they talked. I'm not convinced it gives anything away.
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12-06-08, 05:42 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: Corinne" |
And, truthfully, there's only one person that beats me. There are 18 people in this game, and there are 17 losers. So, I'm on the jury, there are four people on the jury already the first three are my best friends. I will decide who gets the million , so take that for what it's worth. What she meant: I'm not a big loser, only a little loser to one rocket scientist and I get to say who wins, me only me because those idiots on the jury will do what I tell them. What I hear: screeeeeeeeech, meowwwww, hisssssss ********** We needed little metal pieces (for the fake idol), which we got off of the Tribal Council torches. So it did look a lot like the idol that was thrown in the water. What's this we carp, I didn't see her making anything but enemies. *********** And this statement: I didn't even really know that Crystal was in an alliance with Kenny. Combine that with Crystal's confessional about how careful she & Kenny are around everyone. No wonder they're able to keep the target off them. I think Sugar is aware since she linked them as the brains & the bully. I think we have a new Queen of De Nile, wow Corinne by the way Sugar scored higher on the trivia test. Ouchie huh? Where did you go on that academic scholarship anyway, Dogpatch U.? 
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12-06-08, 06:22 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: Corinne" |
There was that thing that Bob said: "If I win Immunity, I'll give it to you."
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12-06-08, 08:02 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Corinne" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-08 AT 08:08 PM (EST)Thought this was potentially interesting - there's ways to look at it, but did Corinne unintentionally reveal that she doesn't get to meet up with Kenny at any time in Ponderosa? Corinne: Right. Well I think Kenny wanted to show his support so that if Matty went home I would believe he was with me, and I wouldn't think the same of Crystal. So if there was a Final 3 it would've been me, Bob and Kenny me, Bob and Crystal.I would assume that's why he did it, but I have no idea, I don't speak to him. I'd think that if she was curious about why Kenny did what he did, she'd have asked him while in Ponderosa, got her answer, then blew him off the rest of the time there. So it might be that she never got to see him in Ponderosa and get an answer, so since the game is now over and she's still stewing over not getting an opportunity to go to the F2/F3, she might have said "to hell with him" and left it at that upon getting home.
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72. "RE: Corinne" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-08 AT 09:42 PM (EST)Corinne may not have been allowed to talk it all out with Kenny at Loser Lodge. At one time there was a rule that jurors weren't allowed to discuss what happened in the game while at Ponderosa. That is, after you leave the game you are supposed to get your info on what happens after from Tribal Council. Kelly explained this back in S3, that if they started to do it they were given a caution.
That was a long time ago though and they may have relaxed. On Big Brother, the jurors can talk all they want but they also get to confab with each other after the Final Q&A, and then are brought to the set to vote. Obviously on Survivor they are forced to vote without talking to each other after they find out who the finalists are. Perhaps the rule was to minimize the amount of sheer lying that a juror could do to earlier boots that aren't in a position to discover it's a lie, say if a juror wants a friend to win, it would be easy enough to make up some story and possibly change the whole outcome. 
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12-06-08, 11:21 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: Corinne" |
My take on it is that Kenny has an edit and comments from Jeff suggesting he gets his comeuppance, and I don't think that's from the jury, but that he falls short of the finals.He made a great big mistake. If he was going to throw Matty a vote, he should have made very sure that Matty was going home. He had the power to do that but telling Crystal to vote Matty, but he was just a bit too clever trying to set himself up so he'd get Corinne's jury vote over Crystal. He relied on there being a real idol, that would be played, and that was foolish after Randy had just played a homemade fake idol. Now he's lost Corinne who would have voted with him, he has Matty and everyone tight with Matty gunning for him, and he's gone from king of the hill to target. He's going to fall soon ... (my spec)
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12-07-08, 01:03 AM (EST)
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78. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Georgianna, thanks for that! Very good interview.
Yes, she says it's a 7 person jury, so do the math ...
Kota 4 votes as a bloc, the way Rotu 4 was expected to, if Zoe weren't on her own planet.Corinne seems happy about that power, like she got something out of it, probably keeping Sugar from winning, possibly Susie. I have a feeling it's going to be Matty/Susie/Sugar. BUT I wonder about Bob ... of course she can't say if he is jury, and he also seems like a guy to vote his own mind, but he could well vote the same as they do anyhow. I just get the feeling that voting for Bob won't be an option, because if it were they would have none of that "voting for lesser evil" vibe. Right now I'm thinking Matty will win and that's why Probst thinks we'll be happy.
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12-07-08, 04:26 AM (EST)
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79. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Well ...I've already said (somewhere) that I don't think that any one of the three women left in the Game will draw the first Kota vote unless they are the Final Three. And, in that instance, I think that Susie wins: Neither Randy nor Marcus will be a party to a bloc vote for Crystal (who did everything but spit in Randy's face and who betrayed what Marcus considered a 'family' bond). Corinne and Randy won't cast a vote for Sugar. And handing a million to Susie would so frost the other two ladies: a fact that I'm certain Corinne appreciates all the way down to her cloven hooves. The argument against that conclusion: The Survivor Phoenix site seems to predict a Crystal win. Of the men still in the Game: If Bob is in the Final Three mix, he wins. He's played a very good Game (skillfully shifting between the two Tribes and several alliances without really angering any of their members). And, in addition to the excellent press he's received from JP, in this post Veruca indicates that she certainly hasn't written him off. The argument against that conclusion: I can't think of one. If the contest becomes one between Matty and Kenny, I do think that Matty wins. He's received an edit worthy of a minor saint and, as Veruca notes in the same post, he's winked. The argument against that conclusion: Kenny (smartly) orchestrated the beginning of Kota's demise, but Matty sealed their fate by (stupidly) refusing to join them. And we all know where Kota stands in the eternal struggle between stupid and smart. Other thoughts: For the record, I think that Susie is this Season's Sole Survivor. I think that if any Kota Juror breaks rank, it is more likely to be Charlie than Bob. I found myself agreeing with Randy a lot this Season. But never more than when he said (about Corinne): "She is mean, she's selfish, she's sarcastic, and I miss the hell out of her and I can't wait to see her again." And, I know that JP has said that 'there will be likeable people at the end' and that he thinks that the audience 'will be happy with the Finalists'. But, has he really said that we'll be happy with the winner? G
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12-07-08, 09:32 AM (EST)
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81. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Hey Georjanna,"If Bob is in the Final Three mix, he wins. He's played a very good Game (skillfully shifting between the two Tribes and several alliances without really angering any of their members). And, in addition to the excellent press he's received from JP, in this post Veruca indicates that she certainly hasn't written him off. The argument against that conclusion: I can't think of one." I feel exactly the same way about this. He has been the real underdog this Season. Nevertheless, he has managed to win challenges, be the most useful member of his tribe, adapting multiple times to different tribemates, maintain relationships and credibility. An amazing feat! If he makes it to F3, I don't see how he could lose. Would anyone on the jury vote against him?
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12-07-08, 11:41 AM (EST)
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83. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Perhaps,whoever sits between Susie and Sugar in the Finals, will win. But, I don't think necessarily on their game play, but, by virtue of the vindictive jury. No way will the Kota 4 vote for a Susie win, when it was Susie that engineered the boot of Marcus which lead in turn to the demise of the onions, one by one. No way will Randy, Corrine, or Charlie vote for Sugar, imo either. By this logic Bob, Kenny, or Matty will win, whoever sits between Sugar and Susie.
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12-07-08, 01:59 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
I agree with you 100% FloPo. Jeff loves Matty, Kenny and Bob and they are the only three I can seeing winning from the editing at this point too.
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12-07-08, 12:27 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Hasn't the word underdog been on Jeff's lips for awhile in regards to this season? He would also fulfill the other statements about fans liking the winner. The upcoming title "The Good Guys should win in the End" would also satisfy Bob winning this season as well. Who would be the evil counterpart at the end though? Not Matty or Susie. Will the edit of evil shift the title off onto Kenny, Crystal or Sugar?The exchange between Sugar and Bob after TC with Bob calling her out for her behavior at Randy's boot could be significant in the development of the final face off, especially if there is further evidence of this. Her confessional following that scene shows her not to be at all repentant for her actions but to say Randy deserved what he got. Hardly "good" behavior IMO. Kenny as evil, maybe but he seems to be guilty of lying and lying is what this game does to people and everyone is evil if that's the criteria even Bob. Susie as evil, no unless evil means she's working hard to win and despite that goal she's been off the radar all along and not seen as a threat that we've been shown. Matty um, no, Jeff luffs him and if Matty just now is realizing that he's seen as a threat to others he isn't evil, just clueless. Crystal as evil, no, searching through Sugar's bag is a minor offense other then being a challenge threat equal to Susie doesn't make her evil just svcky. Besides she's been softened like butter lately. Sugar would be my choice for the roll of evil princess. I admit that I haven't been a Sugar fan all season and that's hardly evidence. To her pick as the counterpoint to a good guy winner is as much as who it couldn't be as what I'd enjoy laughing at for the finale.
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12-07-08, 01:10 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
You know, after watching that You Tube interview, I think Corrine unwittingly tells us that tehre are only 4 of the Kota on the jury. When she says somethign along the lines of "there are the four of us and we're voting in a bloc, it has to suck for the 5th, 6th and 7th people whose votes don't count." That right there, considering Bob was a part of their alliance, doesn't end up on the jury, but 3 of the other alliance do, don't you think? Hmmm...
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12-07-08, 02:00 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
Corinne has said that it's a Final 3 with a jury of 7. It doesn't matter who Bob votes for; Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne can control who wins if they vote as a block (and I'm sure they will).
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12-07-08, 08:04 PM (EST)
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89. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Post-ouster interviews." |
LAST EDITED ON 12-07-08 AT 08:07 PM (EST)I don't think we should get hung up the F3 exemplifying good vs evil. The "evil" theme was WEAK, and stupid, considering Sugar was always portrayed as good even though she wasn't. Also remember it was about who CLAIMS to be good, not who IS good. Corinne and Randy were the only two who owned up to being EVIL.
Kenny is a distant third because he owns being a puppetmaster and doesn't claim any moral superiority, only strategic superiority. Also he likes to lie.
Crystal owns being cutthroat but still claims to be good.
Susie, Bob, Matty, all think of themselves as good, no question. Anyhow I think it's perfectly possibly we could see a F4 of Bob, Susie, Sugar, Matty who are all "good" per Jeff's definition, whatever we may think of them. The evil is already vanquished. Two evil and two painted as arrogant.
Now if Crystal and Kenny go, the real game players will all be out by F5, and "good" triumphs. (Pardon me while I puke.  ) ed because I didn't have Sugar in the F4 list. My brain choked on the thought.
There ... reassembling our afflicted powers, consult how we may henceforth most offend our enemy, our own loss how repair, how overcome this dire calamity~ John Milton, Paradise Lost, Book 1
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12-12-08, 07:35 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: Crystal." |
Crystal is not one of my favorite survivors but she did take her boot from the game in stride. She showed some class after being booted, especially in comparison to Corinne.
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12-13-08, 00:06 AM (EST)
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93. "RE: Crystal." |
Crystal says: (About Fang members)There wasn't any secrets there about each other.
So she told them she was an Olympic gold medalist?Crystal says: Because I ended up looking at the torches and the Immunity Idol that he had around his neck and some of the jewels were missing, and I was like "What in the world!" That's what made me change my mind. Oh really, so she counted the jewels and memorized the torches, everyone's torch. Sounds like ten pounds of shoes in a five pound bag to me. Crystal says: Um, did I? Yes I did, yes I did. Because he was like "Either way, you vote for Corrine," and he was going to write down Matty's name in order to garner up votes in the jury for himself. So she's telling RTVW that it was perfectly fine for Kenny to garner jury votes for himself? And she was OK with this? Really??? Oh that's right, the mental game kicked her a$$, well that's ok then, carry on. Oh for the love of Bob, I can't even finish reading the article right now. What.a.bonehead. Yes, a thousand times yes that I don't have to listen to her argue for votes. gah 
 
Here comes suzzee snowflake thanks Tribey 
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12-13-08, 05:13 AM (EST)
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94. "RE: Crystal." |
Why are you picking on Crystal? If she does not want to tell others she was an Olympic gold medallist, so be it. I can’t see why that will bother you.
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12-13-08, 09:40 AM (EST)
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95. "RE: Crystal." |
Pre-season Crystal described herself as brains, beauty & blazing speed. I'll give her beauty because she I think she looked pretty good before, during and after her stint on the show. Brains, she said she let Kenny do all the thinking and as for blazing speed, I do not think blazing speed is being pushed up a hill on day one. She said in the article:Crystal says: (About Fang members)There wasn't any secrets there about each other. She did not tell her tribemates her track & field Olympic status, too embarrassing maybe or she thought she'd improve but it was a secret so saying they're weren't any secrets among Fang members wasn't true.
Agman camouflaged me for S17
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12-16-08, 05:40 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: Thanks Estee!" |
Thank the interviewer. All I do is link 'em.
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01-11-09, 02:41 PM (EST)
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113. "RE: Survivor: Gabon: Ken on Smashbords" |
I found this interview with Ken while wandering around at Survivor Shrine:So when you found out you were a contestant on the show, where were you when you found out and what was the first thing you did? I found out when I was actually at my house. They called me and told me and I couldn’t believe it, I was on the show. I was like ‘There’s no way, there’s no way’. Then next thing I know I’m in Africa playing the game. Alright, which player do you think had the best game, played the best and why? I thought Ace played differently, a really good game, and you know, his allies betrayed him, and he got far. I thought Randy played a pretty good game and Sugar played a pretty good game but I don’t even know if she was playing a game, because she wasn’t playing from the start. Bob started playing the game later, but I don’t think he was playing a good game throughout the entire game, he played a good game later, and I thought Crystal and I played a good game, but I wouldn’t say we played the best game. What was the most surprising thing you learned from being on a reality show? I learned from being on a reality TV show that they can edit the way they want you to be portrayed, they can do whatever they want. They can give you the best edit or the worst edit in the world and people have gotten really good edits and it wasn’t really like that from what I saw on the island. The rest is at http://www.survivorskills.com/ It was actually taken from, but the smashboards thread is in red and white on black and I just don't like that combination. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=210846
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