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"How did Ruben win?"
pityme 46 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-29-04, 05:35 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
I didn't watch the show AI2. But the copmpetiton was very close, they were within 1 percent of each other. What was your basis for saying Clay is much more succesful than Ruben? Ruben won a Grammy nomination. His Cds are seeling just as well.
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thisit2004 37 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-07-04, 09:00 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
If you look at Billboards.com you will see that Ruben CD is doing just as good. He has set records just a well as Clay. Let's stop talking about last season and let's stick with this season!!!!!!!!!!!!
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qwertypie 9776 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-29-04, 06:15 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
Also, I remember some of it being due to Ryan Seacrest's innumeracy. I seem to recall that he claimed that there was only 14000 votes between the two, when the number was 10 times that. As well, there was contraversy whether Clay knew he was runner up ahead of time -- he may have peeked at Ryan Seacrest's card before the winner was announced. But, that being said, it can't hurt to vote. Some unscrupulous operators had bought the other 800 numbers (like 1 800 idols 01, 1 888 idols 01, 1 877 idols 01 ,etc. which would direct the callers to a 900 number to pay for their votes.
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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03-30-04, 01:00 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
Fox realized that they could keep the votes close by having less phone lines than the actual phone call. They basically wanted a crap shoot finals and got one. The smart strategy was probably to call the person's line you didn't want to win, and then stay on the line until you were disconnected. (Thus blocking other votes from going through)
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joannie 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-04-04, 04:12 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
I seem to remember a mini-scandal during AI2 when Ruben's friends and family were accused of "blocking" calls.
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thisit2004 37 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-07-04, 09:04 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
Where the hell did you get that from??? Face it Ruben had more fans. Did anyone recall that when they were performing to get to the top 10 america voted for Ruben and Kimberly Locke over Clay. So america choose Ruben then and they choose him to be the AI 2!!!
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-30-04, 09:38 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
First off, managerr, you are very sneaky and I want you on my side. Now What I was really going to post. If you ask me (and I know you didn't) I would want my favorite to come in 2nd place. Clay wins bigger by NOT being the American Idol, as well as Kimberly or any 2nd or 3rd placer. First place is locked into a $1million dollar contract. I will agree, not bad, but, doesn't that leave all of the runners up open to larger contracts? I would rather come in 2nd and gamble the fact that I might be able to score a bigger contract than "The American Idol"
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Cuauhtewatemoccajava 133 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-30-04, 09:54 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
EMT, one thing you should know about Ruben:If you had put him in the top 10 this year and put him in instead of Camile, he would have bombed. He had the most abysmal stage presence and was never ever called on it. I mean, really. He was a good voice (George Huff is better though), but no personality or stage presence. In my opinion, the judges pimped him to the finals. He really was so overpraised that season it isn't even funny.
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DmajA 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-30-04, 10:45 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
Wow...I couldn't have said that better myself. I am just not a big Rueben fan. I agree he has a good voice, but all he does is stand there. I think all he CAN do is stand there. It's terrible, but I absolutely agree that he got alot more praise than was deserved.
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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-30-04, 10:47 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
I totally agree with you about him being pimped to the top. He does nothing but stand in one spot, granted it's probably because he's too big to do much else, but that's just boring. I personally think he's over-rated and that Clay's voice and personality blow him away.
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callalilly3000 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-04-04, 01:54 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
I couldn't have said that better, if I said it myself!
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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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04-07-04, 01:03 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
You make sure to let me know when that happens. I'm sure if it does by the time it does Clay will be so rich that it won't matter and he can retire.
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Bosco 449 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-07-04, 08:12 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Voted for Rueben, bought Clay's album" |
I didn't watch lasy episode, but from what I've seen right now they both are equally successful, just different types of audience.
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thisit2004 37 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-07-04, 08:58 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: How did Ruben win?" |
Ruben won b/c he is a better singer!!!! Him and Clay are under different record labels. That's why you see more of Clay with Kelly. American idol is advertising Kelly and Clay b/c they are under the American Idol contract and Ruben isnt!!!
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