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"The Jury. Thoughts?"
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11-10-06, 08:14 AM (EST)
 
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2. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
Cathy, I'm glad that you started this thread! I can see two possible options...1. F3 with 9 member jury( that way the often popular F3 Survivor could have a chance to win it)...I'm sure they could have some kind of tie breaker figured out, or perhaps they will go one step further and have a F4 with an 8 member jury???...(I kind of doubt that though) 2. Standard F2 with 7 member jury BUT, the message in the bottle informs them that they will vote out 2 members of their tribe at the TC, and neither will get to sit in on the jury
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Georgianna 514 desperate attention whore postings
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11-10-06, 08:33 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
No other theories. And I love the idea too. But ...Throughout the season, the announcements by Probst regarding the contestants' odds of 'winning a million dollars' has remained consistent: 'One in ...'. So, in the event of the tie that might well occur if nine vote for one of a field of three, I don't think it will be broken by either splitting or duplicating the million. And I, for one, am prepared to feel monumentally cheated if I have to watch one more 'build a fire to burn through a string' at the Finale. And I sincerely hope that taking the Game away from its participants by permitting the audience (either at home, or in the studio, or both) to decide the matter is not in the offing. However, I can't think of any tiebreaker that I would find acceptable. So, I'm sure open to suggestions ... G
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11-10-06, 11:34 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
"The other way it could work is the winner whether it goes to F3 or F2 gets to decide which juror's vote doesn't count."This makes the most sense to me, a chance to nullify one vote given to either the final challenge winner or the F3 person (usually the best man/woman) who doesn't get taken to F2. The alternating jurors would be a BAD idea. I do, however, still like the idea of a F3 with 9-member jury. Sure there is a slight possibility of a tie, but with 3 people to vote for will that really happen? If there is a tie, between 2 or (doubtful) a 3-way tie, I can see another chance for whomever were the tied vote getters to have another chance to plead their case and then a revote (LIVE and after the jury has WATCHED the show). If there still is a tie (extremely doubtful), then either a fire-making or some other challenge live or an "America votes" or some other weird thing. I highly doubt there would be a tie with 3 people to vote on, but stranger things have happened, and I love the idea of a final 3 and a vote that can be nullified. But this twist has to be revealed towards the very end and not next week. 
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11-10-06, 11:25 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
"I think Brad being a jury seems more unfair as he and Sundra have never been in the same tribe iving together. Especially IF Sundra goes to F2(or3)."Some reasons I don't think it's so unfair: 1. In a regular jury trial, no jury member is acquainted with any of the parties & have to base their decision on what evidence is presented in the courtroom, how the parties present themselves & can be swayed by argument. So, even if Brad never got that much time with Sundra, she could win him over by her answers to questions at final TC & her opening & closing remarks. 2. In a way it could be an advantage for someone like Sundra. If she is in the final 2 against Nate, for example, who lied & betrayed Brad & Brad holds a grudge, there's an automatic vote for Sundra. 3. First boot after merge doesn't necessarily give the initial bootee enough time to get to know all of the people from the other tribe anyway & some are closed-minded & stick with their original bonds anyway. So I don't really see it as that big of a factor for Brad to be on a jury where he didn't get a chance to really get to know Sundra. Just my thoughts.
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11-10-06, 10:46 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
I agree with the idea that one of next episodes double bootee will not be in the jury.At least this make more sense than having Final 3. Final 3 with 9jury or 7 can cause 3-way tie or 2.
9 : 3-3-3 or 4-4-1
7 : 3-3-1 And giving the winner o F3 challenger +1/-1 vote seems really unlikely. This is unfairer than giving him/her chance to choose winnable character to F2. I'll stick to this unless there is better theory coming from some real smart pple.
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11-10-06, 11:11 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-10-06 AT 11:13 AM (EST)They will not let a tie happen imho and I do not think it will be a F3...the final tc would be torture, right BR!?! I put in the East Coast update thread that possibly, it would be alternating jurors until F6 F12, 10 8 6 5 4 3 are jurors
F11 9 7 are not Or some other way to determine who is juror and who is not I'm not sure if they would do this but I don't think EPMB etc think it would be "rewarding mediocrity"; rather they need a new way to change up the game-- To do it this way they needed 20 DAWS because enough (8) have already been voted out before a juror was selected. If you know if a person will be juror or not, that will shake the votes up a lot and then if someone is saved for a week bc of it, by that time could they worm their way into another deal ala Jonathan?
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11-10-06, 11:27 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
Because of the care taken to show Nate's effort to give Brad a false sense of security, I believe that Nate's conduct will have to come back to haunt him, either in in the finale or perhaps the jury will vote to one or mor members to give an odd number of jurors deciding the final winner. In some way, Nate's conduct is going to be significant in the game.
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11-11-06, 03:56 AM (EST)
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29. "Possible F3 scenario" |
Well, I thought the whole day on it(why did I bother to do that!!) and my younger brother(who just turned 13) made a good thought on it.We know Brad is the first jury and 11 left.
So it's 9 jury and F3 or 10 jury and F2 which can cause a tie. And there was tons of F3 contestants who deserved to win(out of those three) but was not taken to F2. So here is what I think. There will be 9 jury and when it comes to F3 the juries voteout 1 of them who they think does not deserve a chance to get million dollars. And then they will vote for the Sole Survivor out of the left 2 and one voted out of F3 does not get a chance to vote as a jury. It might sound a little complecated but I think it can really work!!!
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11-11-06, 10:40 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Possible F3 scenario" |
But the press release says two get voted out..I know that may not be controlling but I'm not sure about the $ to go scenario.If it is..who takes the bait? Rebecca the exhausted one? or Jenny--who has to know she ain't winning this thing...
Bc of the misdirection quote about someone being checked out which I think is Nate talking about Rebecca...remember she had the insider talk about not giving up etc.
I think if $$ is offered Jenny takes it. She has never said anything about not quitting (like Rebecca and Sundra ftm)
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11-12-06, 09:38 AM (EST)
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37. "$" |
I really don't see the "$ to go" thing happenning. What purpose would it serve? It seems like a lame idea, since we already think it's lame that Brad made the jury, having not even met all the players.I don't think the message in the bottle has anything to do with the jury. My first thought was, it reveals the identity of the person with the immunity idol to whoever wins the bottle. I still don't know what to think about the jury, though some good theories have been brought up here. I'm leaning towards the easiest solution is usually right - it's a ten member jury, and they've devised some lame tie breaker should it be necessary, which I really hope isn't a home viewer vote - as I've said elsewhere, if players thought they had to play up to the home audience for a vote, we'd never see a real confessional again.
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11-12-06, 10:30 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: $" |
>I really don't see the "$ to go" thing happenning.Agreed!! >it's lame that Brad made the jury, having not even met all the players. 100% agreed! >I really hope isn't a home viewer vote - as I've said elsewhere, if players thought they had to play up to the home audience for a vote, we'd never see a real confessional again. Again, 200% agreed! But as I've posted I really don't think there will be a tie. It will be 9jury and F2, though I'm not sure what way they'll dismiss one jury. 1. As i've posted, when it comes down to F3 the 9jury will first vote a person out and then vote for winner in F2. or 2. One of F2 will be given a power to dismiss one of jury's vote. Maybe there will be F2 challenge for the first time, or has it got to do something wit F3 challenge.
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11-12-06, 01:58 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
The Jury members will vote at F3 to pick the last person booted.
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11-13-06, 09:44 AM (EST)
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42. "It'll be a weighted vote scheme..." |
I think I've got the answer...Given that a ten person jury could result in a tie, MB must have something up his sleeve to avoid that, RIGHT? So I'm guessing that each jury member will get a number of votes in accordance with their voted-out-order. Meaning, Brad will get one vote, jury member #2 gets 2 votes, Jury # 3 get s 3 votes and so on until the F3 bootee will get 10 votes. If this works out, I like it because it means that the players that were a bigger part of the game get more say in the outcome, while relatively meaningless Brad gets little say. It will also require the winner to be very diplomatic with those last few boots. The numbers will work out because it will result in 55 total votes, so there must be a winner. A 7 or 8 member jury would not have worked using this method, because there would be an even number of total votes, though 9 would've been OK. One question that I am still mulling over is whether MB will allow split votes (F3 bootee can split their votes 5-5 if they want) or if they must give all teir votes to one F2 tribe member. So what do you think? 
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11-14-06, 02:06 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: I love that idea" |
You've got it Chez. Sorry, I had more details in post #8 but that got lost I guess. The F3 players could be told before the challenge starts and it could be kept secret from the other 9 jury members.
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11-14-06, 06:35 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: The Jury. Thoughts?" |
Thanks for the link, BR! Well, I don't know Prometheus and what kind of info he/she has, but it sure makes sense to me as I suggested up above in post #2. The F3 person historically has been a popular and deserving daw, this way, they all have a shot....don't know though. As for the other info Prometheus is spoiling...well, color that surprising, to say the least. His F5 is not who I would suspect...very suspect to me...
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Cathy the Canadian 599 desperate attention whore postings
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11-14-06, 08:36 PM (EST)
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56. "What about the tie?" |
This is what Flowerpower and I initially thought - but it could still end in a tie. So would they do a fire challenge tie breaker? Or *gasp* purple rocks? Or... maybe the 9 member jury begins by voting OUT one of the final three. They can't vote for whoever won immunity, so there would be no tie. The jury decides who the final immunity winner takes to the final 2. And that person doesn't get to sit on the jury (or, as has been put forth already, gets to replace someone else on the jury), so we again have 9 voting for 2, no chance of a tie. Whatcha think?
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