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survivor_21 506 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 08-17-06, 04:07 PM (EST) "Tribal Divisions" Hi guys, I know that you probably have read this on other sites by now, and maybe it is somewhere here but I didn't see it. What am I taking about you ask? Well its the seemingly controversial speculated tribal divisions based on race, yes I know, race, caucasian vs african-american vs hispanic vs asian-american (If I have misrepresented any ethnic group Im sorry, not my intent) Here is a link to the post on TDT: http://truedorktimes.com/survivor_cook_islands/spoilers/index.htm I'm still not sure if I think this is going to far, meaning that I havn't made up my mind yet one way or the other. It does seem pretty low, but I guess for me it will depend on how they present/edit it. anyway, I figured that this would be worth discussing here, so lets see what people think. BTW I have no idea if this is true or not, I just read it on TDT and thought we could discuss it.   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Tribal Divisions tribephyl 08-17-06 1    RE: Tribal Divisions xwraith27 08-19-06 2        RE: Tribal Divisions survivor_21 08-19-06 3    RE: Tribal Divisions JazzyJax 08-21-06 4  More from TDT Brownroach 08-22-06 5  Supposedly... AyaK 08-22-06 6    RE: Supposedly... KimberA00 08-23-06 7        RE: Supposedly... Brownroach 08-23-06 10  RE: Tribal Divisions mikey 08-23-06 8  RE: Tribal Divisions geekboy 08-23-06 9    RE: Tribal Divisions engine13 08-26-06 22  RE: Tribal Divisions RudyRules 08-23-06 11  RE: Tribal Divisions Brownroach 08-23-06 12  RE: Tribal Divisions KeithFan 08-23-06 13  RE: Tribal Divisions jujucabana 08-24-06 14    RE: Tribal Divisions PepeLePew13 08-24-06 15        RE: Tribal Divisions geekboy 08-25-06 17    RE: Tribal Divisions geekboy 08-25-06 18        RE: Tribal Divisions Tennessee Tashina 08-26-06 21  Rush Limbaugh's Comments mikey 08-25-06 16    RE: Rush Limbaugh's Comments tribephyl 08-25-06 19  RE: Tribal Divisions cycles2k 08-25-06 20    RE: Tribal Divisions kary1371 09-01-06 23  TRIBE NAMES coolbluepig 09-03-06 24    TRIBE NAMES and cast thread IceCat 09-04-06 25

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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-17-06, 08:45 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Been following this news too. Seems that all the seasoned spoilers (Wezzie, Dan, TDT, etc.) have all heard the same rumors. I'm not so sure I belong to the group that sees this split as inflammatory. It truly is no more "offensive" then grouping the castawys by age or gender. (As can be evidenced by Cirie's distraughtness over being labeled as an older woman.) Personally, I'm excited to see so many "minorities" represented this season. Now as too the comments being made about advantages/disadvantages of splitting the tribes by race. If Exile Island is any indication (having 1 from each of the four initial tribes represented in the F4) I'd have to say it won't effect anything. People will target the strong ones/the outsiders/the weak ones/etc. regardless of race. Or at least that's my hope. Then again, the cast "revealed" so far indicates that at least 6 of the new castaways are white, so who knows if the race-divided tribes will actually pan out.   Top

xwraith27 1136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 08-19-06, 01:32 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Didn't TDT pull out from their site most of the 'spoiled' Caucasian contestants? I think they have only 6 contestants listed: three Asians, one Hispanic, and two Caucasians. But I agree with you in your assessment, Tribe. I hardly think that the show should be called rascist just because (if) they do split the contestants by race. In the end, they will proclaim only one winner: an individual, and not a race. If any 'rascist' elements come into play (voting off a person because he/she is not part of the White/Black/Yellow/Brown tribe, for example), I will probably blame it on alliances and not racism, unless it was directly shown that rascism was indeed the reason for voting this person out.   Top

survivor_21 506 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 08-19-06, 08:27 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Yeah I agree. Its no different than dividing the tribes up by gender or age or shoe size, and its probably only for the first episode, like last season, anyway.   Top

JazzyJax 531 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 08-21-06, 03:22 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Nicely put Tribe. So far grouping them by whatever category has not proven to be either an asset or a division, it's all for numero uno once the merge happens regardless Can't wait for the new season!   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-22-06, 12:28 PM (EST) 5. "More from TDT" TDT got a tip that the Asian-Am tribe starts out well but gets picked off eventually: http://truedorktimes.com/survivor_cook_islands/spoilers/index.htm Also, poster Darnell at Sucks says the African-Am tribe loses the first challenge. Blowin' the blues away, courtesy of tribephyl   Top

AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-22-06, 07:23 PM (EST) 6. "Supposedly..." ...this will be confirmed on the 8/23 Early Show.   Top

KimberA00 38 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-23-06, 09:03 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Supposedly..." They did. We'll have 4 groups just as mentioned before. But do you believe what Probst said about the reason they did it was because they were being accused of not having enough diversity in races? I think it's just a new way to divide the tribes initially... should prove interesting. LET THE SPOILING BEGIN!!   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-23-06, 03:42 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Supposedly..." He gave the impression that they looked for diversity in the casting and then after they had assembled the cast they got the bright idea to divide the tribes by race. Which I'm not sure I entirely believe, since they cast the exact same number of each "ethnicity". Blowin' the blues away, courtesy of tribephyl   Top

mikey 1150 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 08-23-06, 02:38 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Tribal Divisions" I think it should be called "Survivor -- Separate but Equal" Not a good idea, as. let's say the Caucasions win a reward challenge -- they get to eat while the other races don't. Just will make a lot of viewers uncomfortable if that happens. But I agree that, like last season, it is probably a one episode or only a couple of episodes stunt before the real tribes are formed.   Top

geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 08-23-06, 02:49 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Hi everyone - I'm very excited for the new season of Survivor. So the new thing this season is tribal divisions by race. Its a curious way to divide up the tribes, that's for sure. I'm not offended by this at all, although i'm sure a lot of viewers, and possibly players, will be. Looking back, dividing by age made sense due to the differences in endurance, physical fitness, etc. Dividing by gender also makes sense along the same lines. But the one thing I'm curious about is why divide by race? I can't think of a reason that would relate to the game, other than the social aspect...but how would it help or hinder the players?? Possibly those who ARE offended would be exposed to those who are not? This is all i can come up with. This one has me puzzled, Mr. Burnett. geekboy   Top

engine13 24 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-26-06, 10:57 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Tribal Divisions" I read somewhere that "people"..(who ever they may be...) complained that the show was NOT ethnically diverse enough...well this is the producers answer. I am not offended but I can see where some might be. This show has always been a social experiment...this takes it to a new level. It also will not be long before 4 tribes go to 3 then 2 then 1. I am excited for the new season.   Top

RudyRules 8360 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-23-06, 05:01 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Can you say... "politically incorrect?" Interesting to say the least although I would have prefered something like a division of "wackos", "average Joes", "models", and "lawyers." The big question is whether the clown fits in the first category or the last. Charter member: ILSFC Rudy's Place   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-23-06, 05:39 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Tribal Divisions" TDT has a People Magazine article about the cast and the twist -- this caught my eye: Until the tribes merge later in the season, the four teams will battle each other and, perhaps, racial stereotypes. Not sure if this is just the writer speaking in a generalization or if it means they intend to keep everyone separated until the official merge. I could see them reducing the four tribes into two at some point by combining tribes but not having a complete reshuffling. Blowin' the blues away, courtesy of tribephyl   Top

KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-23-06, 06:09 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Tribal Divisions" I have no problem with it. I think after the tribes get mixed up I think MB's point is going to be how they can all work together. I think it also is a good Cook reference because in his journals he goes into great length about the differences between the different island's inhabitants; skin, hair type, etc.   Top

jujucabana 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-24-06, 10:28 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Tribal Divisions" For African Americans they have no professionals and no sports players. For asians they have all professionals excluding the entertainer, no sports players who can handle endurance. for both whites and latinos they have both professionals and sports players. This isn't an experiment, it’s a set-up. the show is biased and I do not plan on watching it. A.A.s jobs -retail sales -makeup artist -jazz musician -nursing student -actress Asian Jobs -nail salon manager -attorney -entertainer -real estate agent -management consultant Latino Jobs -Heavy metal guitarist -technology risk consultant -police officer -pro volleyball -waiter White Jobs -sales -premed student -pro roller derby -writer/producer -boxer   Top

PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-24-06, 10:57 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Tribal Divisions" LAST EDITED ON 08-24-06 AT 11:02 AM (EST) Remember what happened in Thailand and in Palau? In both cases the obviously younger and physically stronger team got obliterated by the older team who seemed to be less athletic. In Thailand -- a land broker, a firefighter, an executive recruiter, a dental student and a cop (several of these people were very buff and athletic) got blown away by a porn star, an idiot restauranteur, a crazy bat-befriending teacher, and an over-the-hill football player. Take any & all stereotypes and throw it out of the window. A Tribe siggie "Tsk, tsk. Pepe's messing with the newbies again." Spidey, 3/30/05   Top

geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 08-25-06, 03:07 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Oh, Jan, I miss you and your bizarre quirks. I have to say, as much as people bask Survivor Thailand, i simply loved that season. geekboy   Top

geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 08-25-06, 03:10 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Why did you use the label "White Jobs" but then use "A.A. Jobs" as opposed to "Black Jobs"?   Top

Tennessee Tashina 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-26-06, 01:24 AM (EST) 21. "RE: Tribal Divisions" well i"m surprised that in this day an age people are still walking on egg shells about race . this is t.v. people , for goodness sakes i could probally get along with my ex-mother in law on an island in paradise! besides i"m sure theres a tree or a bush i could allways go hide behind for a little peace .lol. we are all the same when we have sand in our butts .   Top

mikey 1150 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 08-25-06, 02:05 PM (EST) 16. "Rush Limbaugh's Comments" The type of stereotyping sure to follow is epitomized by Rush Limbaugh's comments (here from e-online -- it has been in a couple of other sources as well): "Right-wing mouthpiece Rush Limbaugh, always keen to bluntly pontificate on delicate subjects, took to handicapping the new season on his radio show Wednesday. Hispanics, he said, "have shown a remarkable ability to cross borders" and "will do things other people won't do." Asians, per Limbaugh, are "the best at espionage, keeping secrets." Blacks "lack buoyancy" and are "more likely to drown," while the white man's burden will weigh down the last team with "guilt over the fact that they run things.""   Top

tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-25-06, 07:59 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Rush Limbaugh's Comments" while the white man's burden will weigh down the last team with "guilt over the fact that they run things."" Cause everyone knows all white people are catholics.   Top

cycles2k 538 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 08-25-06, 09:02 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Knowing MB he has probably carefully picked specific personality types and mixed them across races so that there will be heroes and villians on each of the four tribes. While I am not sufficiently offended that I won't watch, the idea of racial division on a reality show does concern me. Another poster called it separate but equal which is exactly what it appears to be. I expect (and hope) that these tribes will merge quickly like they did with the four tribes last season. PS: Probst is a fool if he thinks anyone is going to buy that line about this being a way to include more minorities.   Top

kary1371 631 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 09-01-06, 05:54 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Tribal Divisions" Regardless of the intent behind the concept, it would have taken years of Survivor to get that many people from minorities to play, so I find it nice for those who got cast. I don't think they will keep them this way for long, just long enough for people to get to know each other a little for possible future alliances we might not see coming... it has yet to work, but who knows...   Top

coolbluepig 819 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 09-03-06, 10:55 PM (EST) 24. "TRIBE NAMES" From Wikipedia pointing out to TV GUIDE's SEPTEMEBER 4 issue. TRIBE NAMES ARE: Aitutaki (Hispanic-Americans) Rarotonga (Caucasians) Manihiki (African-Americans) Puka Puka (Asian-Americans) Co0L 3luE P1g: OINK OINK...   Top

IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-04-06, 02:28 AM (EST) 25. "TRIBE NAMES and cast thread" Is located here: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/6412.shtml#26 Head shots and tribe names posted by FlowerPower in post 26:   Top

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