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gatormeatisyummy 9 desperate attention whore postings
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08-10-00, 11:12 PM (EST)
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"Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
Burnett said of the final four picture something to the effect of "its half true"...taking this, that would mean that rudy and sean make it to the final 4....also, kelly has been reported to being in all 13 episodes, so she stays...the most logical scenario is this: rich/rudy alliance and susan/kelly alliance allow sean to be swing vote...sean probably sides with girls, thinking he has a better chance to win the immunity challenge, votes: sean for rich, sue for rich kelly for rich....bye rich....and, while we're at it, is there ANY doubt that rudy does not win???....he's been low key in the press...would be shocking to the general public, and hasn't ruffled feathers with anyone...also, no spoiler evidence suggests that he doesn't win, while there IS spoiler evidence against everyone else...thoughts?
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) Dreamingofcolleen 08-10-00 1
   RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) gatormeatisyummy 08-11-00 4
   RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) gatormeatisyummy 08-11-00 5
 Glad to see you on this board GATOR... BadAs 08-10-00 2
   RE: Glad to see you on this board G... theevilsonnyburns 08-11-00 7
       RE: Glad to see you on this board G... gatormeatisyummy 08-11-00 9
 RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) tanscissors 08-11-00 3
   RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) Magus 08-11-00 6
       RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) Guacamole 08-14-00 31
   RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) sly61 08-11-00 15
 RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) TheThinker 08-11-00 8
   RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) gatormeatisyummy 08-11-00 10
       RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) TheThinker 08-11-00 16
           RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) gatormeatisyummy 08-11-00 21
           a short reason for america's favour... biancasequineescort2 08-13-00 29
 RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) nyugrrl 08-11-00 11
   RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) AyatollahKhomeini 08-11-00 14
 RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) Superman 08-11-00 12
 Rich goes, but no Rudy victory danc... AyatollahKhomeini 08-11-00 13
   RE: Rich goes, but no Rudy victory ... tanscissors 08-11-00 18
       RE: Rich goes, but no Rudy victory ... Rudyrox 08-14-00 33
   RE: Rich goes, but no Rudy victory ... tanscissors 08-11-00 19
 RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) Devin 08-11-00 17
   RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) AyatollahKhomeini 08-11-00 20
       RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) Naked 08-11-00 22
           RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) AyatollahKhomeini 08-11-00 23
               RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) Naked 08-11-00 24
                   Kelly's arrest record AyatollahKhomeini 08-11-00 25
 RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler) meg2000 08-12-00 26
   Kelly AyatollahKhomeini 08-12-00 27
       RE: Kelly JustMe 08-13-00 28
           RE: Kelly Devin 08-13-00 30
               RE: Kelly AyatollahKhomeini 08-14-00 32

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Dreamingofcolleen 73 desperate attention whore postings
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08-10-00, 11:21 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
Burnett said of the final four picture something to the effect of "its half true"

<Burnett talks a lot, I wouldn't trust him that much>

and, while we're at it, is there ANY doubt that rudy does not win???....he's been low key in the press

<Greg hasn't been in the press either, but we know he didn't win. Plus, Rudy had no desire to even associate with the others post survivor, so it logical that he doesn't want any press. I agree, and hope, that Rudy wins, but dont think this statement means much.>

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08-11-00, 00:24 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
True, everyone knows not to trust Burnett. BUT, hear me out. Its been shown that Burnett loves these "cat and mouse" games that are going on (specifically referring to SS.com and the final four picture). Burnett loves "the game" as much as the show. For him, he already knows the winner, so much of his excitement is being derived from the game he plays with ardent followers of the show, us. As much as he wants to keep the secret, and throw us off, when the show is over, he wants to think to people "see, I gave you the clues, but I still won." This is just my gut feeling on Burnett...some things I do belive...this "half-true" final four picture is one of them...
Also, can someone put together a boot sheet listing all info (speculation and spoiler, as well as stuff in between) of why Rudy wins, and other's don't. The more and more I think, the more my head and gut tells me that Rudy is indeed the winner...
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08-11-00, 00:24 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
True, everyone knows not to trust Burnett. BUT, hear me out. Its been shown that Burnett loves these "cat and mouse" games that are going on (specifically referring to SS.com and the final four picture). Burnett loves "the game" as much as the show. For him, he already knows the winner, so much of his excitement is being derived from the game he plays with ardent followers of the show, us. As much as he wants to keep the secret, and throw us off, when the show is over, he wants to think to people "see, I gave you the clues, but I still won." This is just my gut feeling on Burnett...some things I do belive...this "half-true" final four picture is one of them...
Also, can someone put together a boot sheet listing all info (speculation and spoiler, as well as stuff in between) of why Rudy wins, and other's don't. The more and more I think, the more my head and gut tell me that Rudy is indeed the winner...
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08-10-00, 11:25 PM (EST)
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2. "Glad to see you on this board GATOR.."
At least this board will get some credibility by having some of the TRUE SS Board Posters opening a discussion forum here. I am glad that I now have an opportunity to discuss topics with SS Experts. I look forward to your posts in the future on this board and hopefully you can lead some others here so that the Millions of us that were not able to play on SS can contribute intelligently here.

BadAs
AKA Typoman from FeretK email posts on SS .

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08-11-00, 04:01 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Glad to see you on this board GATOR.."
Is that REALLY you, Gator, or is there an imposter lurking?
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08-11-00, 08:45 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Glad to see you on this board GATOR.."
yep...its me!
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08-11-00, 00:07 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
On Entertainment Tonight, Mark Burnett put a lot of stress on "A Broken Promise" which "comes home and becomes a very big deal."


I'm reading that to mean that Sean advances, Kelly gets the boot in Ep12, and that Kelly is the deciding vote against Sean in either the Final Four or Final Two Vote.

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08-11-00, 01:23 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
Of course the "broken promise" may also have something to do with Rich's comment about sticking with Rudy...nah. Kelly goes this week, unless she has immunity, in which case we might see the surprise exit of Sue. Don't let Sean's idiot personallity fool you, he's got something going with Rich and Rudy.

If Kelly goes go in Ep12, Sue will go first in the Final Four, unless immune, in which case Sean gets his. Whoever's left get's taken down by Rich and Rudy, and Rudy wins the jury vote easily.

As was mentioned earlier, I'm glad to have the opportunity to post with people from SS.com (gatormeatisyummy for one), I've been reading the message boards for some time now without being able to post.

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08-14-00, 00:20 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
My guess is that Kelly wins Immunity this week and she, Sauksn, and Sean vote Rich off, Rich and Rudy will vote Sean or someone. I'm guessing Rich goes, becasue of the female/male pattern that has going on (Gretchen, Greg, Jenna, Gervase, Colleen, 3men and 3 women in the pre-merger)

Then in E13 I think Sean will win immunity, and Rudy and Sean will agree to vote together in this TC. The TC time arrives with Souszan backstabbing Kelly, Kelly voting for Rudy, Rudy for Kelly, and Sean for Kelly or another scenario, Sean for Sauthsan, Rudy too, and Kelly for Rudy or maybe for Shushan if the fight they seem to have in the previews was really bad. And Sooooozann backstabbing Kelly like in the first scenario. Kelly or Susx-than goes (following the pattern), hopefully Sauzhn.

If Zasun goes, then there's Kelly, Rudy, and Sean. Sean will vote for Kelly if she doesn't win immunity, because he said he wouldn't vote for Rudy. If she does, he doesn't have other choice than to vote for Rudy. Rudy for Sean, and Kelly will decide who she wants to be on the final two. But I'm guessing Rudy or Sean wins immunity, and they don't like Kelly, so Kelly goes. If Kelly goes in the previous TC. The same will happen with Rudy and Sean, and will vote Srucszhan off. (the pattern breaks)

Then the last TC with Rudy and Sean, the Kelly, Rich, and Sutzan will obviously vote Rudy. I think the pagongs will vote Sean, so Sean wins and it is over!!!

Guacamole

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08-11-00, 11:08 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
Couldn't this be about the broken promise of sean to kelly and the breakfast partner? Maybe she will be the tie breaker for the boot.
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08-11-00, 08:37 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
Two things bother me about this post. One is the quote about Kelly being in all thirteen episodes. In my opinion, this means nothing. Clearly, everyone in the final nine has will be in all the episodes as part of the jury. Secondly about this, who knows what type coverage they will give the jury during the final episode. My guess is that it is a lot more than they give it now.

I do not believe Rudy will win. So far it seems like one thing has been consistent about this show. Whatever castaway most of the public thinks will win, will be kicked off the island very shortly. This held true for Gretchen and Gervase. Now that everyone has jumped on the Rudy bandwagon, I honestly can't believe that he will win.

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08-11-00, 08:50 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
That's true about Gretchen and Gervase, but remember to distinguish between the general public and the hardcore fans. To the general public, Rudy winning would be a shock, as most would expect rich or sue, but to us hardcore fans, we can understand why rudy would win. Right now, if you look at polls, its only the hardcore fans that think rudy will win.
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08-11-00, 11:10 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
You do have a point that a lot of people still think that Richard and Susan will win. These are the general public people. I have AOL and occasionally go into its survivor's chat rooms. In there, it seems like half the people "know" Rudy will win. That seems to be the general consensus of fans that aren't really hardcore, but above the general public. These same fans called that both Gretchen and Gervase would win it. I think it would make sense if Rudy won (although if I was there, I wouldn't vote for him). I only think he won't win because it just seems too publicized a fact now.
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08-11-00, 12:13 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
good point...but remember, the show is over, and the winner has already been decided...the winner may have an affect on the amount of publicity, but the publicity does not have an affect on the winner...its important to make this causal distinction...the reason for so much stock on gervase was two-fold: final four pic and x-theory (both red herrings by mb), of course people are going to jump on the gervase bandwagon with these red herrings out there...but there is an importnat difference in the case of Rudy, all the evidence pointing to him is not a result of red herrings (protonesis, all the quotes "the winner is shocking (rudy would have been shocking when the quote was said)", "big clue in first episode", "transformation" (old among young))...plus is there any evidence that rudy does not win???...there is substantial evidence against rich, and also evidence against the rest...
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08-13-00, 05:46 PM (EST)
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29. "a short reason for america's favourite curmudgeon"
Although,its hard to take what
M.burnett says too seriously,
He did state that the winner
was both a surprise;yet also
"obvious" by episode 8 or so.
I think the surprise element
is in regards to Rudy almost
being voted off in Episode 1>
Who would have thunk it that
he would still be around Now.
--He's surely a final 4 contestant no matter what
happens this week--He seems
very likely to win a final
showdown vote with any of
the remaining Survivors.By
episode 8,it certainly wouldn't have been obvious
that Rich or Sean would be
the winner.Arrogant Rich and
Neurtoic Sean have each pissed
off Pagong members.Sue seems
to have pissed of Sean,and
--from his early show interview--Gervase as well.
I have an inkling the pagong
members may vote as a bloc
in the final showdown.this
leaves Rudy and Kelly.I can't
quite figure out Pagong's
attitude towards Kelly.Regardless,unless she
goes on a Im Challenge
winning blitzkrieg,-something
i'm hoping for,just so it
will frustrate El Dicque-she
will be gone soon.
The one flaw in this plan
is the Rich/sue realise that
rudy will win the final
showdown vote,and oust him.
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08-11-00, 09:12 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
Gator -
I agree that what you are saying about the fake final four photo being half true is pretty likely. I also think that the three core members of the alliance realize that they can guarantee being in the final 4 if they vote in a block one last time - if they split now, they are all vulnerable. I am with you that Sean and Rudy are in the final 4 - the other two are up in the air depending on immunity. The idea of Kelly going seems obvious, but really does have a lot of creedance. I do agree, that if they don't unite to target Kelly (at which point Sean's and Kelly's votes are insignificant), there could be some sort of break-up giving Rich the boot (which would make me happy).
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14. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
>I
>also think that the three
>core members of the alliance
>realize that they can guarantee
>being in the final 4
>if they vote in a
>block one last time -
>if they split now, they
>are all vulnerable.

But being in the Final 4 wouldn't be enough for Sue. If Kelly goes now, what are her chances of finishing better than fourth?

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08-11-00, 09:31 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
>also, kelly has been reported to being in all 13 episodes, so she stays

actually everyone from Greg on will be in all 13 episodes - jury members

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13. "Rich goes, but no Rudy victory dance..."
LAST EDITED ON 08-11-00 AT 10:44 AM (EST)

First, my apologies for my comment on the ss.com board that I hate to post evidence agreeing with you! That was intended as a joke, because I have actually agreed with you a lot.

I agree that Rich goes this episode, because I think the "crack in the alliance" title of E10 was intended to refer to Susan's expressed willingness to vote Rich off. Since Kelly has voted against the alliance twice (Jenna and Colleen), the only way the alliance could truly meet its "death" is if Rich, Sue or Rudy go.

For Rich, we have evidence (of unknown origin, but I still give it credence) that he wins $45K. While it could be after-tax income, as has been much debated, I don't think most people say how much they earn on an after-tax basis. And, from the Adventure Magazine (Nat'l Geographic) quote, we know Rich doesn't win. Plus, we had a report earlier that Rich was shocked when he was voted off, and I don't think he'd be shocked to be voted off in E13.

For Susan, we know she bought a new house, indicating to me that she won enough to make a down payment. We also have the quote that she won as much as she makes in 3 years, and there were a lot of postings on ss.com indicating that short-haul truckers make $25-$40K annually. From Gervase, we know she didn't win. We also know Jenna voted for the winner, and she would never have voted for Susan. Thus, she probably took second or third.

For Sean, we have his phone call defending his strategy, which he would be unlikely to make if he won or if he didn't make the Final Four. We also have (thanks to you) a supposed quote from Sean's cousin that he was in the top three. Giving that quote some credibility, he probably finished third.

That leaves Rudy and Kelly. What do we know? Kelly's dad said she was in all 13 episodes (and that probably means she was not just on the jury in the last one). Jenna said she was rooting for Rudy. Jenna voted for the winner but her reaction to another question may mean that she was not too happy about it afterward. Markie B. proposed a Rudy action figure. Anything else?

From these facts, which admittedly aren't much, I'd infer that MB's comment was intended to be misleading, and Kelly wins. Thoughts?

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18. "RE: Rich goes, but no Rudy victory dance..."
>LAST EDITED ON 08-11-00
>AT 10:44 AM (EST)

>
>First, my apologies for my comment
>on the ss.com board that
>I hate to post evidence
>agreeing with you! That
>was intended as a joke,
>because I have actually agreed
>with you a lot.
>
>I agree that Rich goes this
>episode, because I think the
>"crack in the alliance" title
>of E10 was intended to
>refer to Susan's expressed willingness
>to vote Rich off.
>Since Kelly has voted against
>the alliance twice (Jenna and
>Colleen), the only way the
>alliance could truly meet its
>"death" is if Rich, Sue
>or Rudy go.
>
>For Rich, we have evidence (of
>unknown origin, but I still
>give it credence) that he
>wins $45K. While it
>could be after-tax income, as
>has been much debated, I
>don't think most people say
>how much they earn on
>an after-tax basis. And,
>from the Adventure Magazine (Nat'l
>Geographic) quote, we know Rich
>doesn't win. Plus, we
>had a report earlier that
>Rich was shocked when he
>was voted off, and I
>don't think he'd be shocked
>to be voted off in
>E13.
>
>For Susan, we know she bought
>a new house, indicating to
>me that she won enough
>to make a down payment.
> We also have the
>quote that she won as
>much as she makes in
>3 years, and there were
>a lot of postings on
>ss.com indicating that short-haul truckers
>make $25-$40K annually. From
>Gervase, we know she didn't
>win. We also know
>Jenna voted for the winner,
>and she would never have
>voted for Susan. Thus,
>she probably took second or
>third.
>
>For Sean, we have his phone
>call defending his strategy, which
>he would be unlikely to
>make if he won or
>if he didn't make the
>Final Four. We also
>have (thanks to you) a
>supposed quote from Sean's cousin
>that he was in the
>top three. Giving that
>quote some credibility, he probably
>finished third.
>
>That leaves Rudy and Kelly.
>What do we know?
>Kelly's dad said she was
>in all 13 episodes (and
>that probably means she was
>not just on the jury
>in the last one).
>Jenna said she was rooting
>for Rudy. Jenna voted
>for the winner but her
>reaction to another question may
>mean that she was not
>too happy about it afterward.
> Markie B. proposed a
>Rudy action figure. Anything
>else?
>
>From these facts, which admittedly aren't
>much, I'd infer that MB's
>comment was intended to be
>misleading, and Kelly wins.
>Thoughts?


I would agree with all you have to say, except the last part about Kelly winning.

I'm saying this because of the Protonesis stuff that came out in June. I just can't see a legitimate company making an early call on the winner (they picked Rudy) without having found someone to confirm with confidence that Rudy did indeed win.

The National Enquirer has known the identity of the winner for many weeks, but has yet to reveal it. So information is out there, for someone willing to pay for it.

And I'll bet ya the Protonesis people also paid to get it, in order to promote their "findings".

In the same vein, I couldn't see Access Hollywood having to dump the interviews of Sean, Sue and Kelly without using them, so those castaways (who had not yet been featured prior to EP 11) were safe last week.

Lets see which two are featured this week on Access Hollywood. One of the two will get the boot.

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33. "RE: Rich goes, but no Rudy victory dance..."
>>LAST EDITED ON 08-11-00
>>AT 10:44 AM (EST)

>>

>>>I'm saying this because of the
>Protonesis stuff that came out
>in June. I just can't
>see a legitimate company making
>an early call on the
>winner (they picked Rudy) without
>having found someone to confirm
>with confidence that Rudy did
>indeed win.
>
>The National Enquirer has known the
>identity of the winner for
>many weeks, but has yet
>to reveal it. So information
>is out there, for someone
>willing to pay for it.
>
>
>And I'll bet ya the Protonesis
>people also paid to get
>it, in order to promote
>their "findings".

I am starting to think this company is a "plant" by MB. I have nothing real to back that up or anything... it's just a hunch. I checked out their website and it just didn't seem *real*. The only press they have AT ALL has been the press release where they name Rudy the winner. When I saw an interview with a founder of the company it seemed bogus.. he didn't have any real insight into the company.. just that Dirk was thinking "Rudy wins". I hope I am wrong.. I REALLY want to see Rudy win but this company is a little too weird.

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19. "RE: Rich goes, but no Rudy victory dance..."
>LAST EDITED ON 08-11-00
>AT 10:44 AM (EST)

>
>First, my apologies for my comment
>on the ss.com board that
>I hate to post evidence
>agreeing with you! That
>was intended as a joke,
>because I have actually agreed
>with you a lot.
>
>I agree that Rich goes this
>episode, because I think the
>"crack in the alliance" title
>of E10 was intended to
>refer to Susan's expressed willingness
>to vote Rich off.
>Since Kelly has voted against
>the alliance twice (Jenna and
>Colleen), the only way the
>alliance could truly meet its
>"death" is if Rich, Sue
>or Rudy go.
>
>For Rich, we have evidence (of
>unknown origin, but I still
>give it credence) that he
>wins $45K. While it
>could be after-tax income, as
>has been much debated, I
>don't think most people say
>how much they earn on
>an after-tax basis. And,
>from the Adventure Magazine (Nat'l
>Geographic) quote, we know Rich
>doesn't win. Plus, we
>had a report earlier that
>Rich was shocked when he
>was voted off, and I
>don't think he'd be shocked
>to be voted off in
>E13.
>
>For Susan, we know she bought
>a new house, indicating to
>me that she won enough
>to make a down payment.
> We also have the
>quote that she won as
>much as she makes in
>3 years, and there were
>a lot of postings on
>ss.com indicating that short-haul truckers
>make $25-$40K annually. From
>Gervase, we know she didn't
>win. We also know
>Jenna voted for the winner,
>and she would never have
>voted for Susan. Thus,
>she probably took second or
>third.
>
>For Sean, we have his phone
>call defending his strategy, which
>he would be unlikely to
>make if he won or
>if he didn't make the
>Final Four. We also
>have (thanks to you) a
>supposed quote from Sean's cousin
>that he was in the
>top three. Giving that
>quote some credibility, he probably
>finished third.
>
>That leaves Rudy and Kelly.
>What do we know?
>Kelly's dad said she was
>in all 13 episodes (and
>that probably means she was
>not just on the jury
>in the last one).
>Jenna said she was rooting
>for Rudy. Jenna voted
>for the winner but her
>reaction to another question may
>mean that she was not
>too happy about it afterward.
> Markie B. proposed a
>Rudy action figure. Anything
>else?
>
>From these facts, which admittedly aren't
>much, I'd infer that MB's
>comment was intended to be
>misleading, and Kelly wins.
>Thoughts?


I would agree with all you have to say, except the last part about Kelly winning.

I'm saying this because of the Protonesis stuff that came out in June. I just can't see a legitimate company making an early call on the winner (they picked Rudy) without having found someone to confirm with confidence that Rudy did indeed win.

The National Enquirer has known the identity of the winner for many weeks, but has yet to reveal it. So information is out there, for someone willing to pay for it.

And I'll bet ya the Protonesis people also paid to get it, in order to promote their "findings".

In the same vein, I couldn't see Access Hollywood having to dump the interviews of Sean, Sue and Kelly without using them, so those castaways (who had not yet been featured prior to EP 11) were safe last week.

Lets see which two are featured this week on Access Hollywood. One of the two will get the boot.

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17. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
A lot of people have talked about what the remaining people's strategies are. A lot have also suggested that Sue or Rich would try to get rid of each other. But why? They are one another's only chance at winning the jury vote. Assuming Rich can hold onto his power, he would have to be foolish to get Rudy in the final two with him. Of course, immunities make speculation very tricky.
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20. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
>A lot
>have also suggested that Sue
>or Rich would try to
>get rid of each other.
> But why? They
>are one another's only chance
>at winning the jury vote.

I guess I don't believe that Richard was as unpopular with the others as he is with the public. Colleen, Gervase and Jenna voted to take Rich off because he was the alliance leader, not because they didn't like him. When they realized they were doomed, they voted for Sean.

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22. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
Kelley gets it next week (not a spoiler just speculation) but I do believe that even if I'm wrong about next week then she will not win the million. FACT - Kelly Wigglesworth is having legal trouble about stolen credit cards. This is not an action of a millionaire.
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>FACT -
>Kelly Wigglesworth is having legal
>trouble about stolen credit cards.
>This is not an action
>of a millionaire.

She was not a millionaire in 1995, when she signed her name on the charge slip and skipped her court hearing!

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24. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
Where did you get that bit of info? I have heard that she stole credit cards after the show.
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25. "Kelly's arrest record"
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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ao/20000721/cr/another_i_survivor_i_in_trouble_with_the_law_1.html

She also talked about it after she was arrested in 1997 for biting her husband's nose. See the police report:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/wigbust1.shtml

Looks like she had better save the cash for future legal bills!

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26. "RE: Next weeks victim...(spoiler)"
As far as Kelly being in all 13 episodes is concerned, so has Jenna, Gerv, Greg as will Colleen and the all the others. Just not in the beach part. I don't think we can rely on this to say that Kelly doesn't go this week. I guess we just have to wait and see at 8 on Wed.
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27. "Kelly"
That's true, of course, but would you really say you were in all 13 episodes if you were Greg? Also remember that Kelly returned home really sick, indicating that she did not have too much opportunity for R&R before leaving the island.

That doesn't mean that Kelly wins for sure, but I have thought for a while that her unavailability for comments (especially after the first articles appeared with comments like the "all 13 episodes" quote) has indicated that she was the likely winner. We know Richard did not win, we know Susan finished 2d or 3d, and we can conclude that Sean didn't win but did finish in the final 4. That only leaves Kelly and Rudy. But MB's comments point to Rudy. To me, that means Kelly wins.

You're right, we'll know in 2 weeks. As I've said elsewhere, my picks (based solely on my interpretation of the evidence outside the game) are Richard 5th, Rudy 4th, Sean 3rd, Susan 2nd, and Kelly to win.

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28. "RE: Kelly"
>>As I've said elsewhere, my picks (based solely on my interpretation of the evidence outside the game) are Richard 5th, Rudy 4th, Sean 3rd, Susan 2nd, and Kelly to win. <<

I agree with you 100%! (I admit that I thought on thursday that Susan would be next to get the boot but now that I've given it more thought....) Here's why:

Episode 12 - Richard goes because we the viewers don't expect it. What supports this though is that we know he is not going to win the big $$, his legal fees eat up his winnings (which would put him in 5th place), he is surprised when he is voted off (the "Broken Promise" perhaps made to him by Susan, Sean, and Rudy?), he somehow redeems himself, and the name of episode 12. Also, MB said the fake Final Four photo was half right which means Sean and Rudy make it to the Final Four. Kelly is too obvious (and there is that comment from her family that she is in all the episodes) and Susan needs more money to buy the new home and have 3 year's income. I also think this will be the tie-vote episode.

Episode 13 - first vote - Rudy because he's caught stealing food. This is supported by MB's and Stacey's comments. Also, Richard is no longer there to protect him.

Episode 13 - second vote - Sean. The message on the rec.tv newgroup that Sean makes it to the Final Three seems authentic. Kelly wins immunity and reasons Susan will be easier to beat than Sean.

Final vote between Susan and Kelly -- Kelly wins. The transformation comment also supports this as she has gone from the loser thief to the winning survivor.

Of course I could be wrong.... and I'll probably change my mind by tomorrow.

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30. "RE: Kelly"
About the legal fees, wasn't all that was said that he spent 45K of it on legal fees. I don't think it necessarily means all of it. And if he goes next, the money after taxes would be less than 45K. He can't spend 45K of his winnings if they're less than that. My guess is that Sean goes votes with the men. I think anyone could be the food thief. I don't think Sue's family relies on her income, they own a business I believe. In other words, my belief is the opposite of yours, and no more or less likely.

P.S. I remember someone posting on SS that MB said either that a tie did or did not come into play. If anyone remembers this it might be helpful.

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32. "RE: Kelly"
>About the legal fees, wasn't all
>that was said that he
>spent 45K of it on
>legal fees. I don't
>think it necessarily means all
>of it. And if
>he goes next, the money
>after taxes would be less
>than 45K. He can't
>spend 45K of his winnings
>if they're less than that.

In another thread, I raised the issue that I don't think Sean's legal fees could have been more that $5K or at the very most $10K. And, I guess I don't believe that people talk about their winnings on an after-tax basis. As a contributor to this after-tax discussion on ss.com when it started (through an e-mail sent to someone else), I can say that my motivation at the time was to find a way that Richard could finish higher than 5th, because I couldn't see him losing at that level. Now I can.

> I don't think Sue's
>family relies on her income,
>they own a business I
>believe.

I thought they did rely on her income. I know they did own a fishing camp in Canada for three years, but the economics of those camps are generally pretty bad. Do you have a source for this?

>P.S. I remember someone posting on
>SS that MB said either
>that a tie did or
>did not come into play.
> If anyone remembers this
>it might be helpful.

See the on-line interview with MB in USAToday online in July, when MB says that there was a tie on the show. By the way, I think Sean's comment to Colleen simply indicated that he expects to be voted off next.

We need to remember that the man in the street, who wouldn't have done all the analysis we've done, would probably expect the final five to come out like this: 5th and 4th-Sean and Kelly (in either order, perhaps depending on immunity), 3rd-Susan, with a final between Richard and Rudy. I would expect that the people on the island are thinking the same thing. That's why I think Susan does something NOW to change the outcome. Be serious: in a tie vote between Richard and Rudy on one side and Susan and Kelly on the other in the final four, which side do you think is most likely to break?


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