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"Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps"
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
bondt007 |
01-10-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
dabo |
01-10-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
Brownroach |
01-10-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
Flowerpower |
01-11-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
Brownroach |
01-11-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
michel |
01-11-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
Brownroach |
01-11-06 |
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Additional challenge caps |
Flowerpower |
01-11-06 |
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RE: Additional challenge caps |
ditsyquoin |
01-11-06 |
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RE: Additional challenge caps |
tribephyl |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Additional challenge caps |
Flowerpower |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Additional challenge caps |
michel |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Additional challenge caps |
Flowerpower |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Additional challenge caps |
michel |
01-12-06 |
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Raft Challenge |
Flowerpower |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Raft Challenge |
PhillyBrat |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Raft Challenge |
Flowerpower |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Raft Challenge |
Brownroach |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Raft Challenge |
Flowerpower |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Raft Challenge |
PhillyBrat |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Raft Challenge |
Brownroach |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Raft Challenge |
B i a n c a |
01-12-06 |
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RE: Raft Challenge |
Flowerpower |
01-13-06 |
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New Challenge Vidcaps |
Flowerpower |
01-14-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
VolcanicGlass |
01-15-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
Flowerpower |
01-15-06 |
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A woman is the first boot |
Flowerpower |
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RE: A woman is the first boot |
B i a n c a |
01-16-06 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
Flowerpower |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
michel |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
Brownroach |
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knuckles487 |
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RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps |
Brownroach |
01-27-06 |
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First Challenge |
VolcanicGlass |
02-02-06 |
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RE: First Challenge |
Flowerpower |
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-10-06, 02:28 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps" |
The first five caps seem to me to be pre-challenge.
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-11-06, 04:36 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps" |
An excerpt from the Zap2it Article: In the premiere, scheduled for Thursday, Feb. 2 (the first night of February sweeps), the four tribes will start off with a reward challenge, with the losing team having to decide which of its members is banished. That person will then have to compete solo in the first immunity battle. The four tribes will become two in the show's second episode.
Brownroach notes in another thread that this article states the the show will "start" off with the RC. Wickchix has stated that the show will start off with another grueling hike. So the question that BR notes is, will the hike be the first RC? If it possibly is than the challenge shots within this thread just could be the IC, where the tribes compete in tribes with the exception of the individual who was exiled to exile island, who competes as an individual. So, I thought I'd apply this scenario to the vidcaps we have here. I count 4 of the younger men in that tribe, 4 of the younger women in their tribe, and 4 of the older men in the mature man's tribe. Note that there are no vidcaps of the older women's tribe in those caps at all... Could it be possible that the older women's tribe is not shown as 3 of them are competing together while one of them is competing as an individual? Hopefully we'll be getting more shots of this challenge as the weeks go by...
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michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-11-06, 05:24 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps" |
Do you imagine how cruel it would be if it goes as you speculate? After the initial trek, one of the older woman is exiled until the IC in which she competes alone, would most certainly loose and then have to leave. That doesn't sound right to me, especially since those vidcaps show a challenge in which teamwork certainly helps if only to paddle faster. A challenge in which an individual competes against a team would more likely be some sort of puzzle. Also we have vidcaps of all four mature women resting in their shelter so the exile cannot be right at the start.
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-11-06, 05:42 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-12-06 AT 12:53 PM (EST)I know -- I looked through the TES shots and as far as I can tell everyone is shown at camp at some point. I think there might be something amiss with Zap2It's article saying that the exilee will have to compete solo in the IC. It just doesn't make any sense. The earlier article said the exilee would have to fend for him/herself *until* the IC. JazzyJax thinks the Zap2It article may have confused the fact that there is an individual II on Exile Island with the notion that the exilee will compete individually in the IC. I think that could be the case, since no other article has mentioned the solo IC. I guess we'll just have to wait for more promos/previews/press releases. ETA: Now that we have the caps of the second challenge it appears that some of the previous caps show the contestants in preparation for the challenge and not at camp. TDT points out that while all of the older men and older woman can be placed in some camp shots, neither Misty nor Austin is actually seen at camp (although Austin's shirt is there). One of these two may be Exilee #1.
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ditsyquoin 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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01-11-06, 09:26 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Additional challenge caps" |
On the original caps #3 and #4, what is that Swiss Family Robinson type walkway in the trees? Could it be that the beach challenge continues into the woods?
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-12-06, 07:20 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Additional challenge caps" |
I'm am always so wrong on these but...Could the raft/boxes/aras with "key"map be from the first episodes physical/mental RC and... The Ruth/Terry/Danielle/Austin race, be for the individual immunity held in episode 2. Trying to figure out a way for the exiled player to come back and play individually, might lend itself to having the other teams choose their best tribemate to go against the exilee for the "tribal" immunity. One person plays for the team. Little do they know, it's for the first (or second) choice in a pick-em re-shuffling of the tribes. However, if this were true, than either Ruth or Terry or Danielle or Austin are the first exiled player. Not Bruce. At least not yet?
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-12-06, 07:44 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Additional challenge caps" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-12-06 AT 07:54 AM (EST) Okay, I've been thinking alot about these vidcaps now. I think I can definitively say that the challenge that starts in the woods along the waters edge is indeed the first challenge. This challenge starts after they have had all their cast intro pictures taken as they are all in the exact same attire. For example, here they are at the start of the woods challenge. Note what Aras, Bobby and Terry are wearing, and also Ruth Marie, who is closest to us:
Now note what they have on here:
See, Aras has on the gray tank and jeans, Ruth Marie has the pink tank and jean shorts with her hair in braids, Terry has on the yellow/blue striped shirt with his visor, Austin has the blue long sleeve shirt with red shorts, Bobby has on the same outfit, Danielle has on green shirt...., I think the four people at the starting line that Jiffy is starting are definitively: L to R: Ruth Marie, Terry Deitz, Danielle, and Austin....You can clearly see Ruth Marie and Terry, and you can see Danielle's green top and you can see her blue buff on her head like a head band, and Austin's blue shirt and red shorts. I think that this pic of the older guys doing rock/paper/scissors here may be them deciding who will start the race for them, perhaps. Note the back ground on the shore... Now here are the old girls during the photoshoot just before things get under way, note what they are wearing. Note particularly that Ruth Marie has on the pink tank, with bathing suit underneath and jean shorts and her purple buff on her upper right arm, compare that to the pink topped girl at the starting line....
You can clearly see that purple buff on Ruth Marie's upper right arm...
I think that these shots of the young girls are right before the "woods" challenge as we see them in their photo shoot clothing and I think they've already decided that Danielle will start them off as she's seen here twisting/stretching as if preparing to race.....
So, clearly to me the Survivors are gathered together at the challenge site and the first thing they have is their cast photo shoot, or the entire cast and then of their tribal split shots. Then perhaps they start the very first challenge, the "woods" challenge. Now, I can not say definatively if there is one or two challenges in the first ep. It is possible that the raft challenge is an extension of the "woods" challenge. We see that Ruth Marie and Danielle indeed are wearing their swimming suits under their clothing. BUT, Aras and Nick are in long jeans, and clearly on the beach/raft challenge area they are all in their swimming trunks. At this point I am leaning toward the "woods challenge" being the RC and the beach challenge being the IC.
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michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-12-06, 08:59 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Additional challenge caps" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-12-06 AT 08:59 AM (EST)FP: Your analysis is very good and I'm convinced that there are indeed 2 different challenges but there is nothing to tell us the timing of the events. The group pictures may not have been taken immediately on arrival (we don't see any back-packs but we know these survivors have extra clothes). How's this for sequence of events: They arrive at the beach, are seperated in 4 tribes, go build their shelter and later gather to compete in episode 1 RC, the beach challenge. After that, 1 member is exiled and only returns when everyone is assembled at the start of episode 2. They use that gathering to take the group pictures and different tribal pictures. After that, Jeff asks them to designate 1 person for a race in the woods, our second challenge in which Ruth goes against Terry, Danielle and Austin. That race only determines who gets to captain the pick'um team selections. The captains being the first man and the first woman to complete the race. I say this because the race doesn't seem to be a relay race because the older men are shown chosing who goes. They wouldn't do that if all 4 raced and only had to decide the order of the racers. No teamwork being involved, I don't see that as a team reward or Immunity challenge and if it was designed to have the exiled player compete against the best of the 4 tribes, there would be 5 racers not 4.
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-12-06, 09:39 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Additional challenge caps" |
michel, as always, you make some good points! You are right in that the race in the woods challenge could indeed just be for who gets to choose the 2 tribes and could occur later in the ep post rc. The rationale I used to speculate was I remembered in A$$ that they had all of their cast photos when they first gathered at the challenge site. Also, looking at the S12 cast photos they all look very clean and fresh, at least their clothing, I suppose the guys could build their shelters shirtless but I think the girls clothing would appear a little more worn....Also we see Dan chopping wood in preparation of building a shelter, or whatever, and he's in his gold shirt, and then look how bright and clean his gold shirt looks in the cast photo. Because there are 4 racers at the start of the "woods challenge" I was inclined to think that was the RC, but I suppose it could be to determine captains for the pick'em. I also find it strange that from all of the "beach/raft" challenge pictures there are no pictures of the older women's tribe during the challenge.....
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michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-12-06, 10:06 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Additional challenge caps" |
I went back to look at all vidcaps and you're right about the clothes being too clean. Terry is shown in one using his stripped shirt as a towel to wipe the sweat off his forehead The CBS picture does show bags for Nick, Austin and some of the girls that are out of frame in these vidcaps. So the picture is indeed at the start. You make a valid argument that the race follows immediately after. I guess it's difficult for us to wait until the premiere!!
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-12-06, 09:20 AM (EST)
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13. "Raft Challenge" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-12-06 AT 09:23 AM (EST)Okay, now for some assessment of the "raft challenge"... At this point in the challenge we see the young girls and the young guys, but at this point the young girls look to be climbing toward the structure, while the young guys seem poised on their raft to head back to shore, thus the young guys, I think, are a bit ahead of the young girls at this point in the challenge.
Then as the camera pans to the left we see the older guys come into the frame with the younger girls still in site. Again the older guys seem to be poised more toward the shore, while the younger girls are still heading toward the structure, leading me to believe at this point the older guys may have an edge over the younger girls.
Then in this shot you can also see that there is someone also present on the older ladies tribe on the far right shot of this frame... Now with these shots of the older guys paddling back to shore I can conclude that it is indeed a very close race at least with the older guys, younger girls, and younger guys. AS the younger guys and the older guys were in similiar stances compared against the younger girls in the above vidcaps, here we can clearly see the wake of the younger girls raft along side of the older guys paddling back to shore and we see that the younger guys are indeed heading back to shore as well as they are no longer on the floating platform structure....
Looking at these last few vidcaps I think that the younger girls raft is just out of this frame and that the younger girls are indeed slightly behind the older guys at this point.(from the camera angle). So, if I could conclude anything from this it would be that I think it's a pretty close race....Rationally, I would "guess" that the older women will place last in this event...I may also guess that the younger guys or older guys may win it... All very early speculation...
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PhillyBrat 172 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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01-12-06, 11:19 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Raft Challenge" |
Just as a little "It could happen" kind of senario.. However I think I can see what the "point" is for this challenge. Flower I think I can figure out what goes on BEFORE getting to the end (where you have nicely broken out how everything "goes down") We start here:
Here you see the starting line and the finishing line for the challenge. Players run from the start to the T intersction with the rope. What does the rope have? The Oars for the boat. (If you look at the orange "Pile" of rope you can make out an ore with rope going though it.
Here is a picture that you can see right though the Oar (where the rope would go. In this image we see the young guys working together to get their ores. (Note the dry hair.) What the paper is that they have I have no clue.. maybe a hint on knots (Something they get from winning the "reward" challenge.) OK so after getting the oars the tribes swim out to their floating thing. If you notice in this picture the backround all tribes have a wooden object that has an area that is painted in their colors. I beleive this area is where their raft is. Using the floating Box there they need to untie and get their raft free and using the oars row to shore. I keep looking everywhere for the II however I don't see any so this could be the RC for all I know. However this just looks like what has to happen.
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PhillyBrat 172 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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01-12-06, 02:06 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Raft Challenge" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-12-06 AT 02:10 PM (EST)The fact that it appears that they are walking and all have a smile on their faces tells me that they can't be "pushing themselves" to win immunity and are just going over the course But doesn't Jeff instruct them how to go though the challenge, wouldn't be be "with" them incase they have any questions. Also I think the Document that Aras is holding COULD be attached to the rope as well somehow.. OH forgot to add.
If you look ahead of where Bruce and Terry are it appears that there is an Orange mat of some sorts.. It COULD be another stage in the challenge.
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B i a n c a 12 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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01-12-06, 04:14 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Raft Challenge" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-12-06 AT 04:47 PM (EST)Looking at these last few vidcaps I think that the younger girls raft is just out of this frame and that the younger girls are indeed slightly behind the older guys at this point.(from the camera angle I agree with you FP. Just looking at this cap you can see a dark area of water in the girls' lane, and my guess would be thats the trail of their paddeling, so given that the camera's on an angle the girls should be either equal or behind the older guys. It's also possible the older guys are more crooked than the younger girls, thus giving an appearnece of a larger angle.
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-13-06, 11:36 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Raft Challenge" |
Bianca, you bring up a very valid point....at this point in the race on the raft back to shore, I think judging from the camera angle and the young girls wake in relation to the older guys placement, I do think at this time the older guys are ahead. But the angle the older guys raft is taking gives me pause. Terry is probably the dominant rower here and thus is causing the raft to veer off to the left. If this continues, then they could be in serious trouble, and may indeed finish last???Food for thought...
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VolcanicGlass 428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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01-15-06, 06:28 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps" |
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-15-06, 07:11 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps" |
Thanks VG, for bringing these over!I think this shot is Nick perhaps at the finish line! That's the structure back on shore(if you look just below the horizontal bar you can see the green band around it), here's a pic for comparison...that's a nasty little cut on his face...could it need stitches?
As for the young girls, they are in trouble, imo. They've gotten caught up along the rope and that always spells trouble! Still no sighting of the old girls??? WHY?
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-16-06, 08:23 PM (EST)
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27. "A woman is the first boot" |
Wickchix has reported that her source told her that the first boot is a woman. At this point, I am in agreement. Based on what we have so far, I think the young men are going to come in first, followed by the older men. I really think in the above shot that the younger girls are trailing the older men, and then with the most recent vidcaps we see the younger women have run into the lane line, which imo is always a very bad thing. But in the above vidcap what is in the water just behind Bruce's right elbow. IMO, the only thing it could be is the older women's raft, or more specifically one of their oars, and as the vidcap tells us, then they are also trailing the older men's raft. But WHERE is the lane line between the older men and the older women? Did it become detached at all, or are the men possibly riding over it?
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-27-06, 12:29 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Ep 1, Challenge Vidcaps" |
Just thought I'd add a few more vidcaps that aka Ives pulled up over at Sucks:
Well that first vidcap of Cirie jumping tells us that the old gals are right there in it! You can see one of the older guys climbing up the ladder just next to her(I think that may be Terry), and then you can see one of the younger gals climbing up the ladder on the other side of him. So at this point it looks to be a pretty close race....
I think the second cap may be a pic of Aras, as I can see parts of his flame on the side of his drawers. At this point I can honestly say that I still don't have a real clue as to which team loses the IC....We know that when they return to shore with their rafts, they then have to dig in the sand for things...that could prove to be a real obstacle for one tribe.....sometimes digging in the sand for things requires luck as well. Can anyone venture as to the chronology of the IC at all? So far I'm thinking race to the water, swim out to the ladder thing, jump over into the water, climb on the raft and retrieve something out of the crates(perhaps the directions to help in the mental challenge), then row back the rafts to shore, then dig for something in the sand(perhaps the rings to be used in the toss?) then complete the ring toss, then use the rings somehow to complete the mental challenge, perhaps how to get the tubes off of the vertical post with a horizontal post on top of it. (Note that when Aras is seen with the directions in his hands, you can see one of the younger guys working on the mental puzzle with really sandy drawers...as if he had already been digging in the sand...). Would love to hear some feedback! .I'm beginning to wonder about the older guys having crossed over into the older gals lane....could they be disqualified for that?
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-02-06, 12:45 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: First Challenge" |
Thanks for the new shots, VG! Much appreciated! Well BR, you called it! Looks like they are indeed having the first RC on EI itself! WooooHoooo! Interesting shot there of the ?finish area? Looks like there could be more to this challenge than just a run around by one member....just don't know?
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