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"SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!""
LAST EDITED ON 11-30-05 AT 01:26 AM (EST)

I guess Dave is still recovering from Thanksgiving. And thanks, Brownroach, for starting last week's vote thread.

The Rules

1. Please put the name of your choice for this week's bootees IN THE SUBJECT HEADING! This is really easy. Just erase the bit where it says "Re: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!" and replace with your vote, i.e., Cindy. This makes it easier to tally votes quickly and accurately. Oh, and btw... nicknames are tougher to tally unless they're REALLY obvious without actually reading your vote.

2. Reply ONLY to this post! Curves on women are good. Curves on vote threads are bad. The first part bears repeating: I like curves on women (which would explain why I haven't seen any episodes this season). Y'know, I'm not sure if I've been clear enough about this. Curves on women are really great things. Y'know what else is good? A nice MLT. Mutton, lettuce, and tomato with just a little bit of mayonnaise. Mmmmm.

EXCEPTION TO RULE 2! VOTE CHANGES!

If it just so happens that you wanna change your vote for whatever reason, REPLY TO YOUR ORIGINAL POST! Your new post heading should read "VOTE CHANGE: Danni (or Whoever)". That said, there is not an exception to the fact that curves on women are good.

3. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD! DO NOT TREAT IT AS SUCH! There are plenty of places on the Spoilers Forum to debate the merits of people's arguments. Let's keep it out of here, please.

4. No sig pics! It was suggested that because this can be such a long thread, sig pics make it really hard to load for folks with dial-up connections. So show some respect to your slower brethren (and sistren). And really, if I can refrain from flashing the greens at 100 posters, surely you can refrain just this once from extolling IceCat's animated glory, no?

5. Have fun. That's an order.

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  Table of Contents

  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 JUDD Outfrontgirl 11-30-05 1
 Judd applejack93 11-30-05 2
 Judd Flowerpower 11-30-05 3
   Vote Change: Lydia Flowerpower 12-01-05 59
 Judd Estee 11-30-05 4
 Judd esquire 11-30-05 5
 Judd architecturegirl 11-30-05 6
 Judd blacknwhitedog 11-30-05 7
 Judd Max Headroom 11-30-05 8
 Judd Q 11-30-05 9
 Judd Scarlett O Hara 11-30-05 10
 Judd Bebo 11-30-05 11
 Judd flippys 11-30-05 12
 Judd Owlster 11-30-05 13
 Judd MDSkinner 11-30-05 14
   VOTE CHANGE - LYDIA MDSkinner 12-01-05 60
 Judd RudyRules 11-30-05 15
 Judd Myrla21 11-30-05 16
 Judd redbeard103152 11-30-05 17
 Juddhead PepeLePew13 11-30-05 18
 Judd PenMike 11-30-05 19
 Judd emydi 11-30-05 20
   VOTE CHANGE: LYDIA emydi 12-01-05 53
 Judd kingfish 11-30-05 21
 Judd LibraRising 11-30-05 22
 Juddhead bondt007 11-30-05 23
 Judd strid333 11-30-05 24
 Judd Brownroach 11-30-05 25
   Vote change: Lydia Brownroach 12-01-05 54
 RE: JUDD!!!b> montanagirl 11-30-05 26
 Emmet otters JUDD band Christmas survivorscott 11-30-05 27
 Judd Surviette 11-30-05 28
 Judd michel 11-30-05 29
   Vote change: Lydia michel 12-01-05 61
 Man, it's Judd, man. Loquatrix 11-30-05 30
 Judd sylvester 11-30-05 31
 Steph SherpaDave 11-30-05 32
   HEY JUDD... Round Robin 12-01-05 37
 Lydia Quiddity99 11-30-05 33
   Judd littletown 11-30-05 34
 Judd MJewel 11-30-05 35
 Judd vince3 11-30-05 36
 Judd man I mean man Judd man dabo 12-01-05 38
 A poem about JUDD!!!!!!!! cycles2k 12-01-05 39
 Steph mavs_fan 12-01-05 40
 Judd greg2557 12-01-05 41
 JUDD Chapdog 12-01-05 42
   Vote Change: LYDIA Chapdog 12-01-05 55
 Judd mookiemeister 12-01-05 43
 Lydia forehead 12-01-05 44
 Lydia ivoryElephant 12-01-05 45
 Judd kary1371 12-01-05 46
 Lydia flipxcyd 12-01-05 47
 Steph willinCal 12-01-05 48
 Judd Bravehart 12-01-05 49
 Lydia Corvis 12-01-05 50
 Lydia Whole Lotta Rosie 12-01-05 51
 Lydia JuniorTheorist 12-01-05 52
 VOTE TALLY-LET'S TURN THE TIDE BLOW... emydi 12-01-05 56
 Judd JazzyJax 12-01-05 57
 Lydia King Will 12-01-05 58
 Lydia?? whoami 12-01-05 62
 Lydia bobstew617 12-01-05 63
 Should be: Rafe Georgianna 12-01-05 64
 Judd flygirl 12-01-05 65
 Judd kircon 12-01-05 66

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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings
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11-30-05, 02:36 AM (EST)
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1. "JUDD"
Gets all splintered ... ouch!

Loses the trust of his alliance, I think. Not a good thing in a strong player seen as an immunity threat (god knows why as he hasn't won any, has he?).

Other possible reasons:
Rafe may be working on getting more deserving players to the end. Unlike Gary, he defines deserving people as good players who are also nice people.

Steph--plant a little paranoia about Judd and she'll take the bait. Sure he's a good F2 foil but if you can't trust him how can you count on getting to F2 with him? Actually Judd is not such a good F2 foil, because Margaret isn't on the jury. So far, three men are on the jury, men who might well identify with Judd as a strong guy who played hard rather than Steph the returnee.

Lydia is annoying the Queen but she can be swatted down at any time before F3. Take away anyone who could revolt with her and she is no threat.

I'll miss the howler monkey symbolism.

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11-30-05, 06:19 AM (EST)
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2. "Judd"
his ego will hopefully find its way off my screen this week.
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11-30-05, 06:37 AM (EST)
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3. "Judd"
Finally, the big bully will be toast and we get to see the long awaited dramatic exit.....I hope the 5 remaining all scream at him on the way out....

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12-01-05, 05:04 PM (EST)
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59. "Vote Change: Lydia"
Okay emy, I'm on it! The bandwagon that is! I was really fooled by Lydia's set up last ep, clearly the target had been painted. Almost seems too easy! I'll save the Judd pic for next week! Way to Go forehead and corvis! Our independent thinkers!


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11-30-05, 07:51 AM (EST)
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4. "Judd"
And by the way, that picture above? Gary Dell'Abate and Judd: seperated at birth.
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11-30-05, 09:14 AM (EST)
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5. "Judd"
His time has come and I bet his reaction will be memorable
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11-30-05, 09:56 AM (EST)
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6. "Judd"
Cant wait to see what he does when he gets voted out!!
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11-30-05, 10:03 AM (EST)
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7. "Judd"
Liar!

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8. "Judd"
Look at me, I'm a lemming too!
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9. "Judd"
I can't wait to see him go before Cyndy.
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11-30-05, 11:11 AM (EST)
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10. "Judd"
Prepare for the Drama!!!!
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11-30-05, 11:30 AM (EST)
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11. "Judd"
Yawn.


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11-30-05, 11:46 AM (EST)
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12. "Judd"
Go Back to your Door you big WHINER!
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11-30-05, 11:48 AM (EST)
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13. "Judd"
Open the door and usher yourself out, doorman. And, for your tip... you shouldn't have lied about the individual immunity idol.
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11-30-05, 11:59 AM (EST)
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14. "Judd"
I would probably choose Danni if not for the immunity necklace picture/spoiler that she would win it in the acution. So, this is the choice.
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60. "VOTE CHANGE - LYDIA"
Bandwagon, here I come.
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15. "Judd"
Time to be shown the door, man.
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16. "Judd"
Finally
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17. "Judd"
When the cat is away the mice will play. Smile Judd you just got Gregged.
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18. "Juddhead"
Judd, Judd
Judd of the Jungle,
Stupid as he can be.
(Ahhhhhhhh)
Watch out for that tree!

*THUMP*

Somebody forgot to tell him to watch out for his former alliance mates at TC.

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19. "Judd"
The Queen B(itch) doesn't need you anymore! Show yourself out the door (Man)
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20. "Judd"
RC: Judd wins with Steph's and Cindy's money and takes them along; Lydia is furious and eats fish gruel again--Danni and Rafe have a talk; Danni wins envelope with IC clue

IC: loved ones help with Puzzle IC, Rafe "chokes" and Danni and her dog Bobo solve the puzzle before any of the other yahoos do..

Boot: Judd 5-1 with Lydia getting Judd's vote

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53. "VOTE CHANGE: LYDIA"
Well, all these smart people can't be wrong!! Come on join me on my bandwagon!! The Rafe thread and the Rafe acumen theory is too strong...forehead, corvis, Rosie, iE...

RC: Judd wins with Steph's and Cindy's money and takes them along; Lydia is furious and eats fish gruel again--Danni and Rafe have a talk about F5 MOVE; Danni wins envelope with IC clue
IC: loved ones help with Puzzle IC, Rafe "chokes" and Danni and her dog Bobo solve the puzzle before any of the other yahoos do..

Boot: Lydia 5-1 with Steph getting Lydia's vote but not at F2!!

I changed my red ink ABC pick a while ago! Sorry nemo and kircon!

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21. "Judd"
This ain't your jungle, Judd.
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22. "Judd"
Really, I was going to say that anyway. I promise. Don't let the door hit you as you stand guard by it on the way out.
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23. "Juddhead"
...for the second time -
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24. "Judd"
It should be obvious.
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11-30-05, 03:34 PM (EST)
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25. "Judd"
If there is going to be another colorful boot, it must be Judd, and the conditions are ideal this week -- Danni has immunity, and Judd will be shocked to be the one kicked out as an alternative.

Besides, I think Gary slipped up and then tried for a save on Survivor Live here:

Gary: At that point I think they had decided that Gary's gone, he's too much of a threat. Get rid of him and then we'll deal with Judd or whoever else, whatever the mix was after that, whether it be Danni or Lydia.

Judd wasn't in trouble before TC last week so why would they have been thinking they would "deal with Judd" once they got rid of Gary? Danni and Lydia would have been the next two most obvious targets at the time (which Gary seems to have realized -- oops!).

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54. "Vote change: Lydia"
Just trying to help turn the tide here

I'll bite on ivoryElephant's information. Maybe Gary didn't fumble on SurvivorLive. And Corvis's rationale for a Lydia boot is pretty unassailable. And Lydia got the uh-oh spike in face time last week.

Besides, I want to see the Final 4 spoliers (waves to forehead) get blown out of the water.

Whatever happens, tonight will be fun!

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26. "RE: JUDD!!!b>"
Man.

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27. "Emmet otters JUDD band Christmas"
and he was getting my so many points on the fantasy game

Come in a stranger,leave a little stranger

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28. "Judd"
Judd will be voted out of his own jungle...man!
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29. "Judd"
The last of the big boys
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61. "Vote change: Lydia"
Not that it matters but it does seem more logical
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30. "Man, it's Judd, man."
Too bad Rafe won't let a Steph boot happen. That's the boot I really want to see.
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31. "Judd"
This one is so obvious that even I can see it coming.
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32. "Steph"
Because I take pride in always being wrong on these and I'd really like to see Judd go. Also, because I want to thank Dabo and Brownroach for picking up my slack when I just completely spaced posting these this week and last. Thanks, guys!
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37. "HEY JUDD..."
...it's time for you to go!
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33. "Lydia"
Logically booting Judd now doesn't make much sense, he's being picked so much due to the spoilers.

Danni's obviously immune from pictures so she's not gone, so Lydia is the one to go.

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34. "Judd"
finally
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35. "Judd"
I am picking Judd this week.
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36. "Judd"
My computer's clock is at 11:00, approximately, so T-minus 22 hours and counting til the "liftoff!"
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38. "Judd man I mean man Judd man"
Though it really ought to be Steph.
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39. "A poem about JUDD!!!!!!!!"
Juddy told a little lie
He said the Idol was not high.
But Gary found it in the tree
and told all at his last TC.

Back at Camp they start to whine
Turns out that Judd is really slime.
Steph who feels herself Sublime
Announces that its now Judds time.

Danni says, long as not me
and Lydia is filled with glee.
Rafe goes along with Stephanie
And brings along his friend Cindy.

At Tribal Council Judd is ashamed
Because his lie was really lame.
They vote against him all the same
and then he takes the walk of shame.

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12-01-05, 02:11 AM (EST)
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40. "Steph"
Most Survivor watchers would guess Danni or Lydia go home this week.

But everyone here seems to be convnced the alliance fractures and Danni and Lydia are safe. If the alliance fractures, I think Rafe will be leading the charge to vote out the "Mean" players and keep the "Nice" players. Judds a clod, but I think Steph has been shown the one to be "Mean". I just don't see why, if Rafe is going to turn on his alliance with Steph and Judd - he would vote out Judd first. Voting out Steph makes a lot more sense to me.

It seems most folks think the final 2 are Steph and Danni. But maybe the spoilers goofed and the final 2 are Cindy and Danni.

Judd going before Steph just doesn't make sense. Who would want to put up with Steph for 3 days after betraying "HER ALLIANCE".

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41. "Judd"
Should have been looking down instead of up
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42. "JUDD"
Danni is the obvious choice but with rumors flying that she gets immunity on a very important time for her thus propelling her to the final 4 the focus shifts to Lydia and Judd. My guess is that they Kibitz Judd over Lydia due to being ousted by Greg about his lying.
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12-01-05, 03:55 PM (EST)
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55. "Vote Change: LYDIA"
A little birdie told me!
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43. "Judd"
I was thinking of voting for Danni because she's the only remaining member from the other tribe, but so many of you are voting for Judd, you guys must noticed something about Judd. So I'm going to vote for him too.


"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Einstein

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44. "Lydia"
Well, this has been a fun week!

I never know when the foundation shifts to the crumble (if it does) - so let's put that aside and consider game logic.

What, game logic? forehead is always quick to point out that these castaways don't act rationally. Sure, but this season has Rafe. (Thanks again OFG, for your Rafe thread.) Rafe knows that F9, F7, and F5 are good times to shake things up. Not F6. To be successful in Survivor, you need patience. I think out of all castaways, at least Rafe should be able to get it. Stick with R/C/S/J for one more TC. Danni is safe, so that leaves Lydia.

Besides, when is the last time that "Will the F4 alliance shatter?" hype materialized?

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45. "Lydia"
the proof is in the shrimp, errr... I mean pudding
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46. "Judd"
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47. "Lydia"
LAST EDITED ON 12-01-05 AT 02:36 PM (EST)

At least she'll be able to eat again.

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48. "Steph"
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Just to be wildly different.

Edited to remove sig. SORRY

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49. "Judd"
Just to go along with the spoilers. But does Mrs. Morales really have enough powers of persuasion to cause Stephamie to become paranoid? We'll see...
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50. "Lydia"
My reasoning is here. I guess I am going against the tide this week...

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51. "Lydia"
So many conflicting spoilers so little time.

Normally boots are idicated by either the conclusion of story or the convergence of two themes. While Judd lying story, and its context in regards to Rafe, is important I don't know if we have seen its conclusion, and I don't see another emerging theme that directly effects Judd at this point.

In contrast Lydia's story has slowly built up over the last few episodes, in particular the deterioration of her relationship with Steph. At the same time we have seen the Steph/Danni relationship (the theme that should dominate the rest of the game) build. These converging themes are dangerous for Lydia.

Either way, Danni picks up two consectutive IIs, and Judd and Lydia should be the next two to go. I think Lydia goes first.

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52. "Lydia"
I would say Judd, but as I'm wondering if it's not a random double-boot, I put Steph as the backup.

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56. "VOTE TALLY-LET'S TURN THE TIDE BLOWS!!!"
56 posts including this tally

Judd 39

Lydia 10

Steph 3

Vote changes 3 COME ON PEOPLE, there's room on the bandwagon!!!

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57. "Judd"
Don't care what ToT says, but with Danni holding on immunity, they will take out the outsider. Judd is winning alot of rewards, and everybody can beat Lydia in challenges. Stephanie won't protect Judd if there is pressure from outside.
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58. "Lydia"
I don't buy the Judd Logic. This ep will be all about Lydia and Steph and we all know who's gonna win.

King W

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62. "Lydia??"
Will the alliance stick together? Or will Judd being left out of the loop by queen Steph last week be his downfall this week? Watch tonight and find out. I will .
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63. "Lydia"
As much as I dislike Judd, this sounds logical if Danni wins immunity.
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64. "Should be: Rafe"
None of the remaining Survivors (with the possible exception of Cindy) want him as an F2 partner. He has proven to be, both intellectually and athletically, superior to each of them. He is prone to unpredictable emotional highs and lows. He is socially eccentric.

Stephenie has already established a working relationship with an alternative "leader" and, currently, can still be confident of bringing with her a third, malleable, vote. And if the "pact" between Rafe and Cindy has become known (or apparent) to Stephenie and Danni, I would think that the threat of an opposing power base competing for that third vote (either Judd's or Lydia's) at F5 would be, mistakenly or no, more alarming to them than the possibility of an organized resistence at that juncture by Cindy, Judd and Lydia (tonight's 4th vote).

Of course, Stephenie (and Lydia) were there when Rafe's fidelity to another "quirky" young lady (Morgan) dissolved into a syrupy promise to "win it" for her as he cast his first vote against her. So, perhaps those two and others are confident that Rafe's history of faithfulness (within the Survivor environment) will repeat itself.

However, it would appear that Rafe does not have Immunity tonight: and that is a circumstance that none of the other five can be confident will repeat itself.

So, they'll probably boot Lydia or Judd ...

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65. "Judd"
Or Lydia - but I'll go with Judd.
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66. "Judd"
Havn't had time to read this week. So I will be a lamb.
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