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"See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
After winning an arduous Reward Challenge, one tribe member ruins it for the rest by becoming intoxicated and obnoxious.

A grueling physical challenge pushes two castaways to the breaking point, leading to a screaming match that comes close to exploding.

In a Tribal Council first, one castaway bullies and insults a fellow tribe member despite attempts to keep the peace.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... tribephyl 10-14-05 1
   RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... Chapdog 10-14-05 5
       RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... Snidget 10-14-05 10
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... KObrien_fan 10-14-05 2
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... samboohoo 10-14-05 3
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... PhillyBrat 10-14-05 4
   RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... KimberA00 10-14-05 8
   RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... Brownroach 10-14-05 12
 The colorful exit! Brownroach 10-14-05 6
   RE: The colorful exit! Bebo 10-14-05 7
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... Booted 10-14-05 9
   RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... dabo 10-18-05 24
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... LibraRising 10-14-05 11
   RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... kingfish 10-14-05 13
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... emydi 10-17-05 14
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... jenjk 10-17-05 15
   RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... emydi 10-17-05 16
       RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... Brownroach 10-17-05 17
           RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... emydi 10-18-05 18
               RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... Chapdog 10-18-05 19
 eyemail forehead 10-18-05 20
   cbs press release forehead 10-18-05 21
   RE: eyemail Brownroach 10-18-05 22
       RE: eyemail Capn2patch 10-18-05 23
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... Karchita 10-18-05 25
   bully littletown 10-18-05 26
       RE: bully Brownroach 10-18-05 28
 RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode... Flowerpower 10-18-05 27

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1. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"

This week is the double boot so most likely we have both bootees contained within these blurbs.


After winning an arduous Reward Challenge, one tribe member ruins it for the rest by becoming intoxicated and obnoxious.
WooHoo!!! Alcohol. Always a bad idea to over-imbibe. And truthfully, Obnoxiousness could come from anyone. (Even S10's winner.)
Yet, under these circumstances I'm willing to say that "obnoxious person" will probably be a target. Maybe even the boot, this time.


A grueling physical challenge pushes two castaways to the breaking point, leading to a screaming match that comes close to exploding.
Although it would seem to be BJ and Jamie. I'm daring to guess that it will be BJ and a fellow tribemate or Jamie and a fellow tribemate. I also am putting Jamie and BJ in my "possible boot" column because of that.


In a Tribal Council first, one castaway bullies and insults a fellow tribe member despite attempts to keep the peace.
Bullying can only come from Judd. He's the only one left who's crass enough to pull this kind of tactic during TribalCouncil.


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5. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
How do we know it’s a double boot?
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10. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
TV Guide with info on this episode says it is a double boot.


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2. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
After winning an arduous Reward Challenge, one tribe member ruins it for the rest by becoming intoxicated and obnoxious.

From the vidcaps and previews it looks like the big ball pushing is the RC and Nakum wins. (See vidcap thread) So who on Nakum could get drunk and obnoxious? Either Jamie or Judd (Steph is obnoxious even when not drunk, I don't think this will be her though) fits this bill. I agree with Tribe, whoever it is will be a TC target.

A grueling physical challenge pushes two castaways to the breaking point, leading to a screaming match that comes close to exploding.

I think this is referring to Judd and Margaret even though they are trying to lead you to believe it is Jamie and BJ.

In a Tribal Council first, one castaway bullies and insults a fellow tribe member despite attempts to keep the peace.

Judd the bully, Judd the target?


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3. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
In a Tribal Council first, one castaway bullies and insults a fellow tribe member despite attempts to keep the peace.

I'll agree on Judd here. And perhaps this was all set up in Episode 5 with Judd telling Cindy to step up, and with Steph's whining and whining and whining.


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4. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
After winning an arduous Reward Challenge, one tribe member ruins it for the rest by becoming intoxicated and obnoxious.

This just screams to me that Judd would be the one to me he is already obnoxious so drinky drinky only makes it much much worse. Also we have already sceen Yaxha get some drinks so it seems like Nakum will get this.

A grueling physical challenge pushes two castaways to the breaking point, leading to a screaming match that comes close to exploding.

We saw it BJ vrs Jamie, I hope Jamie wins.

In a Tribal Council first, one castaway bullies and insults a fellow tribe member despite attempts to keep the peace.

I feel this just sounds like Judd bulling Cindy/Margret however Since Brandon was outta the loop on that last vote he could have "lost it" and got mean.. but thats really stretching it.


On a final note here, DOES the first and second statments refer to the same challenge? The arduous Reward Challenge and A grueling physical challenge??

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8. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
LAST EDITED ON 10-14-05 AT 10:50 AM (EST)

>On a final note here, DOES
>the first and second statments
>refer to the same challenge?
>The arduous Reward Challenge and
>A grueling physical challenge??


This is an excellent point. According to dictionary.com --
ar·du·ous (ärj-s)adj.
Demanding great effort or labor; difficult: “the arduous work of preparing a Dictionary of the English Language” (Thomas Macaulay).
Testing severely the powers of endurance; strenuous: a long, arduous, and exhausting war.
Hard to traverse, climb, or surmount.

Based on that, it could very well be referring to the same challenge but in typical journalism fashion they had to use several different words to say the exact same thing!

I'm thinking it will be definitely be Judd who gets drunk and obnoxious and starts possibly making fun of the BJ/Jamie riff at the challenge.

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12. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
We can surmise they are the same challenge because the TV Article says the boulder-rolling challenge (which is where the BJ/Jamie screaming match occurs) is for reward (which is what the first item refers to).



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6. "The colorful exit!"
In a Tribal Council first, one castaway bullies and insults a fellow tribe member despite attempts to keep the peace.

This must be it, don't you think? And yes, it will probably be Judd doing the bullying, but he won't be the one leaving. Reviewing Probst's comment:

it was so personal and there's one in particular that is probably the most colorful exit that we've ever had. I say colorful in quotes because it's funny looking back on it but it wasn't funny to the person at the time.

It wasn't funny to the bootee because the bootee was being insulted and bullied. It's not the bootee that makes the scene, it's someone else! What do you think?



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7. "RE: The colorful exit!"
Last episode, we got a slight taste of Judd's bullying with his interaction with Margaret. Spoiler information points to her going next. It wouldn't be any surprise at all if during TC Judd goes too far, and it wouldn't any surprise at all if Margaret chose to get in a parting shot at him as her torch is being snuffed.

I can see her taking his insults within the game as she fights to stay in the game, but once she's voted out, I'd be really surprised if she didn't respond.


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9. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
After winning an arduous Reward Challenge, one tribe member ruins it for the rest by becoming intoxicated and obnoxious.

I think this will be Margaret

A grueling physical challenge pushes two castaways to the breaking point, leading to a screaming match that comes close to exploding.

I think this will be BJ and Jamie.

In a Tribal Council first, one castaway bullies and insults a fellow tribe member despite attempts to keep the peace.

Oddly enough, I think this be Margaret going after Judd knowing she is going home.

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24. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
I agree, Judd may be a lout but he's been asking for it; I hope Margaret does go off on him and make a colorful exit. I also hope she can look back on it and laugh.
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11. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
LAST EDITED ON 10-14-05 AT 11:49 AM (EST)

After winning an arduous Reward Challenge, one tribe member ruins it for the rest by becoming intoxicated and obnoxious.

Hmm, do we know for sure that Nakum wins? Amy's fall looks like misdirection to me. I think Yaxha will win and Brian will be the drunk, obnoxious one, leading to the question of whether it will be he or Amy who goes from Yaxha. The fact that Blake said he left right before things got ugly is part of this reasoning.

eta: Never mind. I just read the vidcap thread about Rafe/Judd in the background. I don't know if Judd would be the obnoxious one though -- big guys can usually hold liquor pretty well. Rafe is probably a lightweight, but he strikes me more of the "silly" drunk type, not obnoxious. Same with Lydia. (Hell, she's silly sober!) So I'm gonna go with Jamie or Cindy on that one.


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13. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
After winning an arduous Reward Challenge,
one tribe member ruins it
for the rest by becoming
intoxicated and obnoxious.

Judd does seem to be the type to enjoy his libations, and his intelligence challenged and brusque NY blue-collar personality would lend one to guess that he would be the most likely candidate for the role of the drunk and obnoxious one, but in my mind Lydia is also a good suspect. With her body weight and under their nutrition challenged conditions, alcohol could really affect her behavior, given her Latina heritage and her unaffected willingness to entertain, (demonstrated Thursday)....

It's probably Judd (even sober he is the most obnoxious IMO), but I wouldn't be too surprised if this actually turned out to be Lydia.


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14. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
LAST EDITED ON 10-17-05 AT 12:58 PM (EST)

Ok, from this and vidcaps, it appears that RC occurs, the feast nearby is eaten by NuNakum and Jamie/Judd get drunk and obnoxious.

Is another challenge held after they eat and get drunk or at the same time as RC (before they eat) for II also with the big ball bc we know that BJ and Jamie are the screamers and the ball is nearby.

I still think Cindy may win II from the previews, but Judd is definitely the bully and insulter, so this may mean, as BR pointed out, that he wins II and is bold enough to do this. However, I think Judd is stupid enough to do this even without II.

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15. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
>After winning an arduous Reward Challenge,
>one tribe member ruins it
>for the rest by becoming
>intoxicated and obnoxious.

I went to the CBS website and looked at the "Favorites" on each Survivors profile. Here is what they listed for their favorite alcoholic beverage:

Brandon, Bobby Jon, and Judd = Beer (of one brand or another)
Margaret and Cindy = red wine
Jamie = Vodka and Diet Coke
Lydia = Pina Colada
Amy = Beer, Martini and grape crush
Stephenie = Cosmopolitan, Corona
Brian = replied "N/A"
Danni, Gary, and Rafe = all replied "No Favorite"

I don't know if there are any valid analysis points in any of this other than the fact that Brian answered "N/A" so he probably doesn't drink.

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16. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
WELCOME Jen!! Keep posting

Do we know what they win to drink?...it appears NuNakum wins the RC...

I'm not sure if Judd would get that drunk bc of his weight off of the amount of alcohol that they may give him. Would he drink other's shares? I'm thinking it may be Jamie or Lydia....


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17. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
I'm thinking Jamie is a good possibility. After the screaming match with BJ he may be feeling his oats well into the reward celebration.

And who the heck drinks vodka and diet coke? Blecch.


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18. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
I saw that too BR!!! I drink JD and diet coke but VODKA....um no

I still am wondering what the II challenge will be and when it will be...

Does it go RC, eat drink and be obnoxious, then II the next day, or is it RC, then II is immediately decided then NuNakum gets fed and Jamie gets drunk? Does anyone know if Ep 6 covers 1, 2 or 3 days in Guat?

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19. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
Actually Absolute make a vanilla vodka and advertises drinking it with coke. It is advertised in such magazines as maxum and FHM.

It is actually ok if you looking for a little caffeine to jump start your night and don’t like redbull.

Just figured I would let you know.

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20. "eyemail"
From Trixiego at MESS:

I don't think Brian or Amy are referred to in the text. So why feature them? Bootee and individual immunity holder???

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21. "cbs press release"
Just to contrast the text -

From Phoenix:

BOTH TRIBES GO TO TRIBAL COUNCIL, ON "SURVIVOR: GUATEMALA -- THE MAYA EMPIRE," THURSDAY, OCT. 20

"Big Ball, Big Mouth, Big Trouble" -- The castaways are informed that both tribes will vote a member out, on SURVIVOR: GUATEMALA -- THE MAYA EMPIRE, Thursday, Oct. 20 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Although the tribes compete for a food reward, both are informed they will be attending Tribal Council and voting a member out. After winning an arduous Reward Challenge, one tribe member ruins it for the rest by becoming intoxicated and obnoxious. A grueling physical challenge leads to a screaming match between two castaways. In a Tribal Council first, one castaway bullies and insults a fellow tribe member despite the attempts of others to keep the peace.

And, two castaways are voted out of their respective tribes.

---

Note: Others are attempting to keep the peace.

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22. "RE: eyemail"
Just to recap the previous EyeMail stars:

Ep 1 -- was there one? (Jim booted)

Ep 2 -- Blake, group shot of Yaxha (Morgan booted)

Ep 3 -- Amy, Gary (Brianna booted)

Ep 4 -- Blake, Stephenie (Brooke booted)

Ep 5 -- Judd, group shot of NuYaxha (Blake booted)

Ep 6 -- Brian, Amy (???? and ???? booted)

So far, none of the bootees have been spotlighted the week of their boot. Only Morgan and Blake were shown in their boot week, but in group shots of their whole tribe.

Blake got two solo shots prior to his boot episode. Amy has her second solo shot this week.


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23. "RE: eyemail"
A logical conclusion to that would be that Brian and Amy are safe this week.

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25. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
LAST EDITED ON 10-18-05 AT 05:17 PM (EST)

>After winning an arduous Reward Challenge,
>one tribe member ruins it
>for the rest by becoming
>intoxicated and obnoxious.

I say Jaime for this one. Blake said on Survivor Live that Jaime was offensive to some of the women and he has said some nasty things about people, for example about Brooke when he voted for her at TC. Plus, he is one of the few who prefers hard liquor, a sign of a more serious drinker.

>A grueling physical challenge pushes two
>castaways to the breaking point,
>leading to a screaming match
>that comes close to exploding.

BJ and Jaime, as we can see on the previews.

>In a Tribal Council first, one
>castaway bullies and insults a
>fellow tribe member despite attempts
>to keep the peace.

Who's a bully? The only one is Judd.

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26. "bully"
i see Brian as the possibility of being the bully. If he knows it is him I think he will throw a hissy fit.
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28. "RE: bully"
Nah.

Brian did seem to be coming unglued as the votes were being read last week. And I could see some potential for a Shii Ann-like vent if he thinks he is leaving.

But he is not a bully. Even if he did have a minor hissy fit, he wouldn't single one person out. He'd probably complain about the unfairness of being in the minority after the switch.


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27. "RE: See-BS Misdirection for Episode 6"
After winning an arduous Reward Challenge, one tribe member ruins it for the rest by becoming intoxicated and obnoxious.

I'm beginning to think that this could indeed belong to the "lippy" Jamie. If he's lippy sober, he'll most likely be extremely so with a few cocktails. It could indeed be either Judd or Jamie, imo...

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