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"Nokomis didn't screw up"
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Opus36 13 desperate attention whore postings
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09-10-04, 03:53 PM (EST)
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"Nokomis didn't screw up"
Ok, I have been lurking long enough and I am tired of reading post where people are bashing her for not putting Diane up for eviction. It didn't matter. If Diane was up instead of cowboy then cowboy would have won POV and taken Drew off. Karen was leaving no matter what.

Personally I am looking forward to Nokomis leaving this week. I am hoping for a Dew Cowboy F2.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Nokomis didn't screw up mrc 09-10-04 1
   RE: Nokomis didn't screw up seahorse 09-10-04 3
 RE: Nokomis didn't screw up ginger 09-10-04 2
 Ummmm no Breezy 09-10-04 4
   RE: Ummmm no Opus36 09-10-04 5
       Seriously doubt it Breezy 09-10-04 6
           RE: Seriously doubt it sisterwoman 09-10-04 7
           RE: Seriously doubt it cookiehahnster1 09-10-04 8
               RE: Seriously doubt it motormouth 09-11-04 9
                   RE: Seriously doubt it HistoryDetective 09-11-04 10
                       RE: Seriously doubt it vixie 09-11-04 11

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mrc 10074 desperate attention whore postings
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09-10-04, 03:59 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Nokomis didn't screw up"
"If Diane was up instead of cowboy then cowboy would have won POV . . . "

That's a pretty big assumption, don't you think?


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09-10-04, 04:11 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Nokomis didn't screw up"
Not only that, if Nik would have put up Diane and Drew in the first place. She could have formed an alliance with her brother by guaranteeing his safety for a probable final three, especially since Drew had already put Cowboy on the block himself. In this way Karen had a chance no matter who won POV.


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09-10-04, 04:01 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Nokomis didn't screw up"
I think we meant (well, I know I meant) that she should have put up Diane and Drew initially. Then, when Diane got the POV, she would have taken herself off. And, if the other hamsters were thinking (by no means a given), Drew would have been voted off, and the power couple split up. By putting up Drew and Cowboy, she let herself be put in a position of having to put Karen up post-veto.

The only way I can see your desired Drew/CB final is if CB gets to make the final decision. He is stupid enough to stick with his horsebuddy and forgo the vote insurance picking Diane would provide. Drew, on the other hand, may well drop CB and go with Diane. In which case he'll win. Diane will likely pick Drew, too.


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09-10-04, 04:13 PM (EST)
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4. "Ummmm no"
How would CB had won the POV? Drew and Diane would have worked together as they did and Nak was extremely close to getting her key. So it would have been one of those three that won the POV.

Drew wins- takes himself off, Nak puts up CB
Diane wins- takes herself off, Nak puts up CB
Nak wins- and doesn't use it.


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09-10-04, 04:23 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Ummmm no"
LAST EDITED ON 09-10-04 AT 04:29 PM (EST)

Cowboy would have won the same way Diane did. Drew and Diane woudl have helped him win the POV to take one of them off. Probibly Drew.

Diane would have realized that Drew was the target. Karen would vote out Drew to try and break up the aliance with Diane. Diane would vote out Cowboy to save Drew. Nacomus would then break the tie by voiting out Drew, she isn't/wasn't ready to vote out her brother. So, Diane and Drew would throw the POV compititon, just like Cowboy and Drew did so Cowboy would win and take one of them off. It is that simple.

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09-10-04, 04:54 PM (EST)
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6. "Seriously doubt it"
LAST EDITED ON 09-10-04 AT 04:55 PM (EST)

CB hasn't won anything yet. Neither Diane or Drew would have taken the big chance now that he could actually win something.

Besides as stated by both CD and Diane, they didn't like each other in the beginning. So if both Diane and Nik were to make a pact with him, he would go with Nik.


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Edited to add that this is the Bashers forum, I'm sure there's a Nikomas rawks thread in the Fan forum.

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09-10-04, 07:08 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Seriously doubt it"
seahorse, I totally agree! She DID screw up. SHe got "back-doored" also, but it wasn;'t as damaging to her as it was to karen. But its coming. SHe was naive, which is something I never thought I'd say about her. Childish (pinky swear grudges) yes. Kinda strange and off the beaten path (or on the beaten path since she likes small doses of pain), although she is by far my favorite. I really like her and think she is an awesome example for young women because she is strong and outspoken without being a (insert way of life) thumper. Live and let live. But that move was STOOPID.
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09-10-04, 07:19 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Seriously doubt it"
Plus how do you know the POV comp would even be the kind they COULD help someone win. What if it was an endurance test? Sure, Drew and Diane could have quit early, but CB would still be on his own with Karen. Not all the comps are set up to be able to help each other. But really the bottom line is that CB has never won anything. I doubt if this past comp would have been his big debut.
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09-11-04, 01:34 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Seriously doubt it"
I have a question...did anyone notice on the live feeds how the players knew which cage to get into? I was wondering if BB picked the competition after knowing what the plan was between D,D, and CB. I know they orchestrate alot of what happens and wondered if that was their little 'push' to help the plan come to fruition. Like cookie said, "Not all the comps are set up to be able to help each other", so it made me question the 'lucky coincidence' that it worked out so perfectly for them.
Any thoughts?


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09-11-04, 09:02 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Seriously doubt it"
I agree with both cookiehahnster and motormouth! I also thought that it was a little too much of a "coincidence" that the veto challenge was something that so easily allowed the unholy trinity to work together. I don't think that CBS literally told any of them to work together, but I think that they strongly encouraged it by choosing that particular veto competition. Which gets at an issue that I have talked about in a couple of other threads: the way that CBS edits the footage that television viewers see into a very different narrative than those who watch the live feeds see. CBS regularly overlooks Drew's shortcomings (not very bright, emotionally abuses Diane, bullies other HGs, uses Diane for some handjob action) to paint him as the Adorable Nice Guy in the house, just making all of America want him to win. The latest veto competition was CBS's latest effort to help the cards fall in Drew's favor.
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09-11-04, 02:16 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Seriously doubt it"
Yep, yep, yep. My sentiments exactly. Verry interesting how they offer various competitions at just the right time. I'm anxious to see how the next one works out. (Yes, we are!)
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