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"Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2"
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1. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
Thanks for bringing these over Vols, and SO glad to see you!
I'll take a crack at these! Obviously there are caps of the 2 challenges. I can't see clearly enough to locate the idol so I don't know which one is which. I'll start with the obstacle course. This challenge is an obstacle course as there are multiple tasks that they do, and it looks as though they are paired off to do it. First we see I think Jamie and ?BJ? at the start as they sprint a distance....judging from how high Jamie's knees are, I'm wondering if they have to jump some kind of hurdles through this sprint area? It also appears to me that BJ could be tripping over his hurdle?
Next there is a rope dome over water, where they have to climb and retrieve their bag that is hooked in the dome somewhere....I think the bag may contain puzzle pieces that they will have to complete as a team at the end of the course. If they fall in they must be penalized somehow(go back to start of dome, or perhaps restart the course?) Here's Brandon retrieving his bag:
...and here's Gary falling in...
Here's another part of the course where they scale a rope, but could this be a zip line? Note it's over water too...
Then there is a go under the logs part too....here's Rafe:
Now I think that this is Ami and her bathing suit sitting out this challenge....you can see her here:
Now for the mud challenge. This is obviously a tug of war challenge with bungee cords. Survivors maybe have to reach various markers on the perimeter, perhaps when they reach one they can free themselves from the group and go and get someone out on the other team? We see them starting out together, then we have Brian going after Danni:
Then we have Gary going after Judd, but most of the field seems to be cleared, so perhaps the others have gotten out...Note that Judd looks to be assuming a wrestling stance...
Then we have this picture: 
...now, who do you think wins this challenge? Just wanted to add that I think this is Brianna sitting out the mud challenge, seated close to Jiffy...
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3. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
Definately is a possibility, Vols. I think you may be right! We need Sylvester the cat to come and blow these up, or anyone else if they can do it! One things for sure, there is definately something sitting on top of that pot!
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5. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-17-05 AT 09:14 AM (EST)Thanks Pepe! Awesome job. I know it's not quite definitive but it's the right size, the right color....can't say that it isn't indeed the II! In fact if I were a betting woman, my money would be on Nakum winning the II in the mud challenge! Leaving poor Blake to suffer another three days! Now, who could be in trouble over on the Yaxha tribe? Ami....Lydia....Gary.....Brian(sure would love to see some drama at TC next week if Brian were to be blindsided! Ha!
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7. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-17-05 AT 10:45 AM (EST)Pics of Idol for comparison: 
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8. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-17-05 AT 02:18 PM (EST)Some more thoughts on the pics and challenges If you look in the lower left corner you can see that the ropes area is starting there. I am wondering if they are jumping down from the logs to go under the ropes - or just trying to stay out of the muck as much as possible. I dont see any "ripples" in the water behind them to indicate that had been running thru the water. In this shot there is no one sitting on the bench - however This this shot there is - also in this shot you can see that the yellow tribe is attached to a pole in the middle - not to the other team. Also in one pre-show quote JP says something about going out digging down in the mud. I think they have to go out dig down in the mud a get a key that will release them or another team mate from bunjies. Then they are allowed to try to pull someone from the other side in an effort to keep them from getting their key or something (not sure yet).
I just think they are digging down for the "key". Gary is clearly unlocked from his side and on the other side - but I think Jude is still digging for his "key" here. I just cant figure out if he is still attached since his bungie is loose and "appears" to be in the opposite direction of the middle. Someone else said: "This is a shot of Brandon and Judd back at camp, post challenge. You can see palm fronds on their shelter along with their banner back at camp! - I disagree the banner in the background is blue so it is at the challenge. I think they are looking down because someone might be hurt. 
Also there is no Gary and one other player missing in this shot. I think the rest of them have been "taken out" of the challenge. JP suggest that in one challenge (that we were suppose to see first night per JP but he could have been wrong on the day) he stops the challenge to double check to see if someone is ok or not. The blue tribe is worried but in my opinion not upset at loosing and not upset enough that it is one of their own players. They are just "waiting" for something to happen. I think they restart it somehow - it would explain why Jude seems to still be tied but at the wrong end and Gary is untied. I do think that it is a Jude/Gary battle to see which tribe wins - and Jude is victorious.
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13. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-18-05 AT 11:00 AM (EST)Vols, You are right. I think that the Survivors run the obstacle course in pairs. Each Survivor has to race to get their colored bag from the rope dome, then do the rest of the obstacle course and return to the start area where the next Survivor on their tribe can go, once the Survivor has returned with the bag. I think there may be puzzle pieces in the bags, so when they have all completed the course they can then dump the pieces out, and the first tribe to complete the puzzle wins. I think they start out having to run a distance to the first obstacle, where we see Jamie and ?BJ/Blake dashing through to get the the rope dome that is over water. Then climb the rope dome, detach the colored bag and then get off the rope dome to another area to do the next obstacle. Note we see Rafe here and the rope dome is behind him...
Once they have completed all of the obstacles, as Vols noted, they have to return to the start so the next survivor can go. Here's Lydia returning to the start after completing the course: 
Note that in this pic Lydia is ahead for her team as Jiffy is looking behind her at someone else who may be on the rope dome....she's either ahead in this shot or very far behind....I think she may be ahead...
*ETA: Perhaps the rope dome is in the center with all of the other obstacles coming off it, and everytime the survivor completes one section of the course, they have to scale the rope dome again to get to the next section....this could explain why we see Rafe starting to go under the logs with the dome behind him and we see Lydia with a different section beside her while the rope dome is behind her as well. Immunity Challenge: Now as for the IC, the mud challenge. I think at the beginning we have the tribes tied to each other with bungee cord. They must go to the markers and retrieve something, maybe dig something up at the markers. Which ever team has the most markers in a given time may win. But, I don't know what they are retrieving? And I think that the survivors can also do things to thwart the other team by going after them, as we see Brian going after Danny. If they are succussful in "getting them", then the survivor is out? At any rate when we see Gary and Judd, this could be a tie breaking round. Each team picks their strongest member to compete. I can see in this pic that they are both tethered to a line.....look closely to Judd and his leg extension in this shot and you'll see he does have a muddy line attached to him:
I think at the beginning of the tie breaking round they are both tethered to a line at the middle of the mud ring, and they have to race to their designated areas to search for something buried in the mud. Gary runs to his end and Judd to his. However, perhaps Judd finds what he's looking for first and Gary notes this, while he has still not found what he needs so in an effort to thwart Judd from winning he goes and tackles him to stop him from reaching what ever it is he needs to reach? Well....just some theories! I still think Judd and the Nakums will indeed win the IC and send Yaxha to TC
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09-17-05, 03:56 PM (EST)
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10. "Opening Sequence Analysis" |
I didn't want to start a new thread for this but the opening sequence may give us some hints as to who is safe this coming episode. We now know that there are mud type challenges in the upcoming episode and in the opening sequence we are shown a few of the peeps in a water challenge: (thanks to Fever for the pics)
There are also some from what I think will be this coming episode: 
Then we have a couple from the first episode: 
There are a few that I am not sure on: 
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09-18-05, 09:19 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-18-05 AT 09:21 AM (EST)Looking at the pics of Judd, I don't think we can conclude that he beat Gary in the mudpit as was speculated a little farther up the thread. The shirt he is wearing in pic #6
is the same as the shirt he has on in pics 59 and 60.
He has the same shirt on in the pic of him and Brandon together either at the challenge or back at camp, probably still at the challenge.
But in the pic of him with his arms raised as if in victory, that sure looks like a different shirt to me. Different color, and not as dirty as before.
I could be way off but to me it sure looks like that raised arm pic is from something else. Although Judd might beat Gary in the mud, I don't know that we can conclude that from those pics can we?
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09-18-05, 11:07 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
It seems to me like it's the same shirt but on the last one his face is dirty and we don't see his tribe band which is close to his face in the other one, so it could be at different time...
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15. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-05 AT 08:50 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 09-18-05 AT 12:17 PM (EST) I think you are wrong (knucks). How many shirts could they have? Only what they wore, if smart they had a L sleeve shirt over a S sleeve/tee, (despite the heat) but none of them carried personal baggage, so, like most Survivor episodes they no changes. When survivors are voted off they sometimes leave stuff, and there are rewards that involve material, maybe clothing. But for a while, Judd will either have a skin shirt or that Blue/blue tee. EDIT: OK, in the early picts they each clearly have a little personal pouch with (presumably) minimum clothing changes. Judd could have another Tee. If smart, they also had swim suit under shorts/ or light long pants. And with practical U-wear. Some of those picts had color manips, note the blue mud.
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09-18-05, 01:11 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Web Promo Vid Caps Epsisode 2" |
Here's a shot of Judd after the premature evacuation:
and for comparison:
IMHO, these are from 2 different times....
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09-18-05, 07:28 PM (EST)
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19. "Gary vs. Judd gif" |
Thanks to quartzeye at sucks for this gif:
You can see that this is when Gary and Judd are left to battle it out. I think that they are both started in the middle and race to find something and get back to their end. They both set out and go to their sides, and Judd finds what he needs quicker, so Gary is forced to change his strategy and try to prevent Judd from reaching the end. He tackles him and is unsuccessful from preventing Judd from reaching his goal. Here we see Gary laying on top of Judd, while Judd uses his legs to propel himself forward, eventually reaching his goal....
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09-19-05, 07:53 AM (EST)
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20. "Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
Garbotalk over at Sucks has totally cracked the Mud Challenge case! Check it out here!It's the ole childhood game we all played, Capture the flag! Brian may be the first to lose his flag for Yaxha from Danni! Go Football Chic! It all comes down to Gary vs. Judd and we know that Judd is reaching the end! Nakum VICTORY! Excellent job, Garbo! Thanks There is no way Gary will get the boot this week as he Yaxha's strongest member....think weak and maybe a little obnoxious....
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09-19-05, 10:24 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
FP - I disagree totally with Garbos thought that the 2 tribes are pulling eachother at the beginning - you can clearly see that they are tied to poles - not each other.
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09-19-05, 11:23 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-19-05 AT 11:29 AM (EST)I also think that I am going out on a limb and now changing my mind that Gary wins this not Judd. 1. Judd is still attached to his bungie on the yellow side - but Gary has already found whatever it is he needs to undo himself and cross sides. The theory that Gary crosses sides to keep Judd from finding whatever it is makes no sense. If Gary had not already found his - he would still be attached and could not cross sides. 2. In the gif above - it is pretty clear that Gary has his hands around Judd at the beginning and is attempting to "lift" him. I think Judd is trying to stay low to prevent it. Edited to add - if you look close at the very end. It looks like Judd's head is turning back toward the middle in an attempt to go the other way. My theory is that the bungies are attached to their own end of the court (Judds bungie is not muddy - and is definately attached at his end). You must get the person from the other side back across their line. Gary gets untied first and gets Judd across - winning it for his tribe.
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09-19-05, 01:10 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
Oh Pms, this is a tough one! I just don't know. Perhaps the two at the end, Gary and Judd have to try and reach their flags first, Judd, somehow is winning and Gary takes a defensive strategy to prevent it. I do see Judd succeeding, but I am still certainly open to suggestion!SamBuru over at Sucks added this pic which shows that the two are actually connected to each other... 
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09-19-05, 02:08 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-19-05 AT 02:09 PM (EST)We are all speculating that the mud challenge is for immunity as the idol is seen on the cauldron behind Jiffy. This is for tribal immunity as the entire tribes are seen in the beginning of the challenge. Perhaps Gary and Judd are the last ones remaining for their tribes, or perhaps there was a tie and the tribes selected their strongest players to battle it out in the tie breaking round.
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09-19-05, 02:27 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
Exactly, it comes down to Gary vs. Judd but it indeed is for tribal immunity. Vols, I really think that is the idol on the cauldron!I question whether or not that bright yellow rope is even connected to Judd at all.... Note these caps: Clearly you can see the blue buff (flag) on Gary's waist band as Jiffy calls out in the promo, "Gary's going for Judd!" 
Then here are the shots of Gary reaching Judd, I don't think it's attached to him at all.... 
I think he's just holding the end of it....don't see it attached to his waist or anywhere else? What else could be Gary's intention in tackling Judd, it just seems as though he is trying to prevent him from reaching a destination......or is he going after his(Judd's) flag/buff to win it? I really am reaching!
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37. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
I have to agree with FP here. I don't think Gary would be "tackling" Judd if he didn't want to "stop" him from doing something, and stop him from doing it pretty quickly. Otherwise, he may just pick up his rope and start pulling on it. I think Gary is trying to prevent Judd from "winning." FWIW.
 
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57. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
sorry flower i`m new at this lol. but read my posts about judd in defense mode there .
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09-19-05, 02:35 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
BR, thank you, it does indeed make sense! Now, in this scenario with Gary perhaps playing defensively and Judd playing offensively, who is your money on?
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42. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
Well, I'll have to admit this is a tough one and I agree, these vidcaps are inconclusive. The pic of Judd with his arms up from the introductory clips could be with the completion of round one in this challenge. I can really see it both ways....Gary switching from an offense to a defense to prevent Judd from getting where he has to go(as we see in the gif that Judd is moving forward with Gary all over him trying to detain him). I also see that if they both had to get to their end and then they could detach themselves and then they could go attack the other and get their flag/buff or whatever.....in the latter scenario it sure would look as if Gary would win it....so...This leads me back to the misdirection as BR notes, but I really can't help but think all of the Blake's down and out is the misdirection and that it will indeed be Yaxha heading to their first TC. Us being shown the very sick Blake has all of us thinking it will be him on a silver platter, but I think that's the big misdirection. Blake will be left to suffer longer, as we know if the Nakum's went to TC, that surely he would get the mercy boot....FWIW! Of course they could always call the quit helicopter to come and get him as he's now on death's door....maybe EPMB will put in another cameo! PS. Pms, I do see the Yaxha's yelling behind Gary as he starts to run toward Judd, but for the life of me, I see none of the Nakum's anywhere on the sidelines? Where are you seeing them?
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54. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
i think it is judd defending the clean rope from gary by falling on it .gary needs to attach himself to the rope .an grab the flag. just my opinion. gary wins.
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55. "RE: Capture the Flag!!!!!......d'oh" |
i think its pretty clear judd is laying on the clean rope so gary can`t get it on him.gary needs to attach himself to it an possibly win it . gary does look like hes trying to lift judd up off the rope no? what do you think ?
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50. "RE: More Vid Caps" |
The only thing I can tell from these vidcaps is that Gary is still tethered to the rope. Now, I don't know if the end of the rope is still attached to something at the other end but the "dirty" rope is clearly still around his mid-section.
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48. "RE: CBS EyeMail..." |
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-05 AT 03:20 PM (EST)Thanks for the Caps and the Eyemail (saves us lazy jerks the effort). The last CBS statement, "And, the second member is voted out of the tribe." That statement indicates that Nakum goes to TC. If not, then this is not just misdirection, it's outright CBS lying. Wouldn't be the first time, and doesn't mean it's not this time, just that that what it is, and could weigh against spec. that Yaxha goes to TC. Of course, it could just be poor english. What's the eyemail theory? the featured person goes Next Week? ETA; Also, in the Gary vs Bubba Judd deal, Judd isn't using the rope to pull himself, at least not the clean rope. I does however appear that whatever is happening, Judd wins this confrontation. But I think it would be a mistake to assume that this is the culmination of the challenge, it could just be one of several matches, similar to the series of one-on-one matches on the platform in the water at Palau.
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