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SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA EPISODE 1
STATE OF THE SPOILING


So… here we are again, hey? The beginning of a new series. I think I can hear the rustlings of the winds of time… Ten series and still you are coming back for more?

Well lets start with one big announcement:

SNEWSER HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!!

In fact, not a single ‘boot list’ spoiler has darkened our doorway thus far, meaning that the real spoiling is about to begin.

We began with a rumour that Bobby Jon and Stephenie were returning, this rumour surfaced on Survivor Pheonix. This rumour was reported by games-man Incognito9 in JUNE. Here is the original thread. Although BJ and Steph's status in the game is unknown, the general consensus is that they are returning as players. Spoiler boards have been abundant with discussion – and here Pepe posts an article in which Probst virtually gives away that they WILL be playing, and I quote:

“I supported the idea because I think socially it is a really great question. People see it very differently and I think people are going to react very differently. So people will say…’No. No. No. You had your chance. Go away.’ In my thinking that is shortsightedness. That is putting some silly ego or pride ahead of the goal and the goal is…How do I get further in the game?,”

After the discovery that BJ and steph were allegedly returning to the game, spoilers focused their attention on the other 16 castaways to join them. Slowly, news began to trickle – a male model here, a magicians apprentice there – but by the time of the cast reveal only 8 contestants had been unearthed, including:

- Gary Hogeboom, apparently a great football star in the US at one point, but someone that we from other countries would not know from a bar of soap.
- Rafe Judkins, a flamboyant Ivy Leaguer.
- Morgan McDevitt - a sorority girl and magicians apprentice (?????? – who does that?)
- a male model (joy, I bet he has the personality to boot – oh such a pun)
- Danni. Random. Random random beauty queen.
- Margaret, someone who spoilers seem to have a lot of faith in.
- Judd. Your token average looker.
- Brooke. I got nothin...
- Blake. Another male model.

Then finally – a cast reveal!!! For those of you who have been living under a Mayan temple for the past month, here are the names and faces you will get to know over the next few weeks (well, really, you’ll probably only know 10 seeing as though pre-merge boots are so passé nowadays). Also, with info from vidcaps spoilers were able to sort the castaways into tribes. Without further ado, here they are:

The Yaxha Tribe wearing blue consists of:









And the Nakum tribe wearing Yellow consists of:









If you want more information then go to the CBS Website – HERE.

One interesting point picked up by dphagan is that three of the castaways have twins. Will CBS pull a big-brother on us and induct twins into the game? Probably not, but it takes keen eyes like those of dphagan to make a good spoiler.

So with the tribes and names established, attention turned to episode names, vidcap, editing, Probst Quote, rumours and, surprisingly, ASTROLOGY to try to nut out the revelations.

The episode name thread, here talks about what the title might mean:

”Big Trek, Big Trouble, Big Surprise”

Without going into syntax analysis of this incredibly inventive title from CBS, we can presume that the survivors are in for a big walk, a bit of conflict and some sort of….surprise (what survivor premiere would be complete without one?). Of course, this surprise is BJ and Steph (or is it? I don’t know).

In terms of vidcap, the IC/RC winner (always only 1 challenge in Ep. 1) was originally speculated to be Yaxha, as this picture shows the blue team (Yaxha) appears to be clearly in front of the Yellow team (Nakum):

Corvis confirmed this idea when he started this thread involving this photo:

In which we can see Amy (a member of Yaxha) sitting, quite literally, next to the immunity idol. Duh, CBS, Duh…

Also, Flower Power pointed us to a fever spotting of stephenie. In this photo:

you can just make out the top of steph’s hair, more clearly shown in THIS photo:

These developments seem to prove that Stephenie is on Yaxha Tribe (based on her presence with Rafe), which allows us to presume that BJ is on Nakum.

In Veruca Salt’s ever-amazing editing thread you will see in-depth analysis of Probst’s pre-show cast assessment, as well as some already interesting insights from VS and friends. In fact Probst pointed out Jim as vomiting on day 2 – a sign of weakness? an excuse for a boot? Sounds possible. Keep an eye on this thread to really heat-up once we get under way.

Georgianna’s Signs of Survival thread has introduced us to a whole new (and eccentric) facet of spoiling – astrology. Check it out for a really good read.

Several interesting rumours have appeared, including one that BJ returned tanned and thin, and a list of several registered domain names has been collected by TDT – I don’t know what exactly it means but it’s interesting.

Now, rumours are incredibly difficult to source nowadays, so I’ll simply direct you to where I read them first:

- True Dork Times
- CORVIS’ SURVIVOR THOUGHTS FROM IOWA

Really, these two sites are invaluable for information on weight loss, internet postings – anything that suggests that survivors may or may not be out of the game.

Now, one FINAL development that must be noted – TDT has somehow (don’t ask me it all went over my head when I read it) managed to date some of the vidcaps. Anyway, what he found (after some dissection on sucks) was a photo of Gary, Rafe, and Lydia on day 4 (episode 2). Here is the discussion on sucks. This photo shows us, at least, that these three survive ep. 1 – which further aids the case for Yaxha winning immunity.

Now, as for the boot, we at least know it is someone from Nakum. The general consensus, according to Sherpa’s Voting thread is Jim. Interesting arguments for all of Nakum’s members can be put forward, as thus far Bobby Jon’s “Tanned and Thin” rumour is the only hard evidence of some sort of survival. However, most posters agree that Jim just seems the obvious boot, especially with Jiffy explaining his bodily excretions on day 2.

So, the outcome of EPISODE 1 is likely to be:

IC/RC: Yaxha (99% sure)
Boot: Jim – maybe.

I hope we all have fun without a Snewser or Mersaydeez holding our little spoiled hands this season. It looks like Snewser is gone for good (bored, probably), and to tell you the truth I don’t miss him. It’s more fun this way…

P.S. – a vague long-term spoiler I only just stumbled across – in this post fester points us to a rumour that steph may do better than Palau.


ETA: stay tuned for our official SOTS icon. Oh, and AyaK - I am more than happy to do another SOTS a bit further on. I noticed you haven't got many recruits yet.

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 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... greg2557 09-14-05 1
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... PepeLePew13 09-14-05 2
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... Snidget 09-14-05 3
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... Corvis 09-14-05 4
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... Brownroach 09-14-05 5
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... Flowerpower 09-14-05 6
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... KObrien_fan 09-14-05 7
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... bdemoney 09-14-05 8
   RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... Spanky68 09-14-05 9
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... Scarlett O Hara 09-14-05 10
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... redbeard103152 09-14-05 11
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... LibraRising 09-14-05 12
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... strid333 09-14-05 13
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... LookeeLoo 09-14-05 14
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... KimberA00 09-14-05 15
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... Krautboy 09-14-05 16
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... kary1371 09-14-05 17
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... SurvivorBlows 09-14-05 18
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... rnrphoto 09-15-05 19
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... kingfish 09-15-05 20
 Cindy is not the first boot...maybe Brownroach 09-15-05 21
   RE: Cindy is not the first boot...m... VerucaSalt 09-15-05 22
   RE: Cindy is not the first boot...m... Flowerpower 09-15-05 24
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... frisky 09-15-05 23
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... Max Headroom 09-15-05 25
   RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... weecama 09-15-05 26
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... bobstew617 09-15-05 27
 RE: SURVIVOR: GUATAMALA, SOTS EPISO... buckeyegirl 09-15-05 28

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Thanks Apple, made it easy to catch up on everything
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Great job on such a short notice, applejack! You really did well to provide clear, concise information, especially considering there wasn't as much to work with compared to what we've been accustomed to getting the last few seasons.

Thanks again!



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Good Job!!

Clear and concise and all the good stuff included.

I'm kinda looking forward to a season that is not completely spoiled. It seems like a nice change of pace from last season.


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Terrific SOTS, mate!


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Just an overall outstanding job on very short notice, applej! I'm really impressed and it was a great, enlightening and amusing read! Way to keep the SOTS spirit ALIVE!!!!

Thanks,

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Nicely done Applejack, way to tie it all together.


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Thanks for a great SOTS Applejack. I haven't been able to visit the boards much lately, since having a new baby (two kids can mean double the work!) so I appreciated a clear and concise way to catch up on my survivor spoiling. Thanks!

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since having a new
>baby (two kids can mean
>double the work!)

Really? You must've gotten one of those "good babies" (read: low maintainence kids). I love both of my tricycle motors more than I love my next breath. But the Lovely Bride and I have found that the 2nd kid means more like 4X the work as just having one. I shouldn't be saying that, because I don't want to scare anyone into not having a 2nd.

Oh, and nice SOTS, Applejack!

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Applejack-- A SPLENDID Beginning SOTS! You left no stone unturned. Absolutely outstanding!

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Great job Applejax. You have helped make this thread what it has always been for me, a one stop shop for all the answers to what might happen during the next episode.RedBeard
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Fierce!

And despite what I said earlier, the lack of Snewser and a Mersaydeez this season will let me peruse the spoilers at will. Although I never have much to contribute.


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Great job on summarizing a whole summer.


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Wonderful Season Premiere SOTS, AJ! Thanks!

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Thanks applejack! I look forward to SOTS every week because my sad ADD mind can't get wrapped around all the different threads to get it all figured out.

Excellent job!
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Thanks Applejack!

I've been away for a while and am currently traveling, so this is a perfect way to get caught up on all the great preseason spoiling...

Thanks for the fabulous SOTS!


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Great SOTS Applejack!
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Hi apple, thanks for handling the always difficult Episode 1!
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Is it me or is my Big brother head going crazy?? Could they throw the same twist that they had this year for Big Brother with partners in?
I was looking at the profiles on cbs.com and a couple of people looked like they could match up. A couple of IVY students, a couple in washington area, kannsas area and another in calif. I mean it might just be lucky that they all come from that area but most of the casts have been all spread out through the US.

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Oh man, really appreciate the summary, I've been unable to devote much time to Pre-survivor 11, and I needed that.

They already assigned the indians to tribes?? That's a already one twist (of the more minor variety).

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I'm putting this here because I believe we are supposed to add new developments to the SOTS thread once it's posted. It looks like Cindy is staying home tonight:

From the Cincinnati Enquirer, Thursday, September 15, 2005
'Survivor' contestant's twin will be watching
Walnut Hills woman a new fan of the show
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Mindy Hall has lived in the epicenter of "Survivor" nation oblivious to the popular reality series.
Until tonight.
"It hasn't settled in yet that when I tune in 'Survivor,' I'm going to see my sister," says Hall, 31, of Walnut Hills, the twin sister of contestant Cindy Hall.
Mindy will be in Naples, Fla., tonight watching the premiere of "Survivor: Guatemala" (8 p.m., Channels 12, 7) with Cindy and their mom. Her family moved there from Maysville after the sisters graduated from Mason County High School in 1992.
Cindy was an animal trainer at the Naples Zoo before taping "Survivor" earlier this year with 15 other castaways, including former NFL quarterback Gary Hogeboom. Mindy has lived for 10 years in Cincinnati - CBS' No. 1 "Survivor" market - without ever watching the show.
"I'm never free on Thursdays," says Mindy, a buyer for 16 Skeffington's Formalwear stores from Northern Kentucky to Dayton. "Thursday night is the one night I have to work, with everyone picking up tuxes for weddings."
What she knows about "Survivor" comes from Cindy, who applied five times for the show.
Cindy has been a fan since "Survivor: The Australian Outback" (2001), the second installment with Crittenden's Rodger "Kentucky Joe" Bingham, according to her CBS bio (www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/). Cindy loves camping and fishing.
"She's a complete nature girl," Mindy says. "It was never a question of if she was going to be picked for the show, but when."
Both Cindy and Mindy have signed confidentiality contracts with CBS. Mindy has been appointed her sister's spokeswoman, though she is not allowed to discuss the show.
"I told her it would be more fun if I didn't know anything as it unfolds on TV as I watched," she says.
"All I know is that she said it was the experience of a lifetime, and she wouldn't say or do anything differently."
She plans to sneak out of work early the next few weeks to race home and watch "Survivor." By the middle of October, she'll be able to watch at work - when she joins the staff at Skeffington's new high-end men's clothing store, Status, at Newport on the Levee.
"We'll have big flat-screen TVs all over the store," she says.



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aj, the first SOTS is always the most difficult in my opinion as the amount of initial information is overwhelming. You did a wonderful job and my I tip my proverbial hat to you

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Sounds like a find to me, BR! Thanks for the article! The only other one of the Nakum's that I'd consider for first boot contender would be Blake.


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Awesome job! Great news that the season is not pre-spoiled. Just like old times. I would have tuned in sooner had I known that, but thanks to you I'm all up to speed!

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An excellent summary indeed! But I have one quibble:

Gary Hogeboom was not a football star! He was a journeyman quarterback who played semi-effectively for several NFL teams. But it'll be interesting to see how that background affects his results in Survivor...


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Thank you applejack and all of those who put this together !!


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Thanks, Applejack, for getting us started this season!
(It was taking some excitement out of the spoiling just to wait to see what Snewser said, so this season will be more fun--I hope!)
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Great job, especially considering you learned that you had episode one late in the week. I haven't spoiled much this summer, and this helped me out a lot.


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