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"Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
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"Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
I was kind of surprised to here Tom talk about Stephanie as if she was part of his core alliance. He spent about 1 day with Stephanie. He has spent the last 21 days with the rest of Korer and has helped lead Korer to the best record ever for a tribe. he is now going to betray his tribemates of the last 21 days to bring Stephanie in.

On the other hand, we have not heard anything from Stephanie indicating that she remembers any deals she made with Tom or other Koror members before the tribes were selected.

If Stephanie doesn't think of herself as being part of an alliance, her support could sway either way when sshe appears at Koror. Especially if the tribe starts to break out into different factions. I expect to see Stephanie's appearance to be the think that really divides Koror

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Alchemist 04-08-05 1
 RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Brownroach 04-08-05 2
   RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Loree 04-08-05 3
       RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... oncebitten 04-08-05 4
           RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... PepeLePew13 04-08-05 5
               RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Brownroach 04-08-05 7
 RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... cadfile 04-08-05 6
   RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... michel 04-08-05 8
 RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Karchita 04-08-05 9
   RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Pookie13 04-08-05 10
       RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... oncebitten 04-08-05 11
           RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Alchemist 04-08-05 12
           RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Pookie13 04-08-05 13
               RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... LibraRising 04-08-05 19
           RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... lipglosslover 04-08-05 14
               RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Pookie13 04-08-05 15
   RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... volleyballmom 04-08-05 16
       RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Pookie13 04-08-05 17
           RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... volleyballmom 04-08-05 18
               RE: Does Stephanie even know she is... Brownroach 04-08-05 20

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Alchemist 110 desperate attention whore postings
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04-08-05, 11:46 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Maybe her comments about being scared weren't only because of spending the night(s) alone on the island. They could have easily been refering to her joining Koror and not knowing if her alliance had held throughout the time apart.

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2. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
I'd guess that after all this time, Steph assumes the alliance is dead, or moot, if she thinks about it at all at this point. Koror's been such a unified rock of a tribe, if I were in her position I'd be assuming I'll have to fight tooth and nail to get myself into a secure spot.

I think she'll be pleasantly shocked when Tom approaches her.


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3. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
We saw Ulong often talk of a switch or merge. Hoping to be saved. We never heard Koror wondering if they would stick together till it was time for the jury. I'm sure they considered this, we just never saw it. Tom and Ian may have been expecting at any time they might be joined back up with Steph in a reshifting of tribes. Steph and Tom made that pact at the beginning. Tom and Ian obviously still believe it and feel if Steph survives she will be so grateful to have an alliance with them that she will vote whatever way they want. But Steph has to really doubt that Tom and Ian are still waiting for her.
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04-08-05, 12:35 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Does anyone know at what order Steph got picked to be on Ulong? I was wondering because if they were in an alliance then why didn't Tom choice Steph over Janu, or was Steph already picked?
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5. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Folks, correct me if I'm wrong... but I believe that Steph was the first woman picked for Ulong after Jolanda picked Bobby Jon.

Ian picked Katie as the first woman for Koror.



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7. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Yes, Tom couldn't pick Steph for Koror because Bobby Jon had just snapped her up for Ulong.


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04-08-05, 12:45 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
I think she just has forgotten about it since it was so long ago.

She will be a bit shocked and pleased if Tom reminds her about it.

Tom and Ian need her more as a counter to Gregg and Jenn yet it could be the old "alliances revealed don't last" thing.

It will depend on who Steph latches onto first if and when she comes over to Koror. Although she values loyality she has flirted with shifting her votes.


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8. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
In her position she doesn't have a choice. She knows Tom is the leader of the tribe so she has to approach him saying that she'll vote whichever way he wants her to. She couldn't afford going behind his back and falling on someone who has an alliance with Tom.
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9. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
I don't think Steph would have forgotten something like a alliance with Tom, Ian and Katie. She is too sharp of a cookie to forget something that important. I doubt, however, that she would be counting on it still being in place because too much time and too many events have gone past. I agree she will be pleasantly surprised to learn it still exists, and it could very well be her ticket to much deeper into the game.
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04-08-05, 02:04 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
At the TC where Koror awarded IC to Ib, Steph sort of smiled when she got 2 votes - could that have been someone from Koror sending her a message?
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11. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Do you remember who voted for her?
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04-08-05, 02:36 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
I believe it was Ian and Coby.

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04-08-05, 02:42 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-08-05 AT 03:01 PM (EST)

Sorry I don't remember - I don't think they really showed us all the voting. I can't find it on the CBS website in print and can't view the Insider vids. The RealityNewsOnline article says they couldn't tell the votes either because no one but Caryn (who voted for BobbyJon) said anything and they showed the rest of the votes so quickly. Here's the link: http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article0419.art&page=3

I just remember Steph's smile and thinking at the time it was kind of sweet, like she felt complimented. Now after reading this thread and VS' thread about the editing and the revealed alliance, I was thinking again about that smile.

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04-08-05, 03:18 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Coby said something, too: "I hope you get it, girl" (about Steph). At first I thought it might have meant something, but he probably just respected her.

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14. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
>Do you remember who voted for her?

Koror immunity vote:

Janu (Votes Ibrahim)

Coby (Votes Stephenie)

Caryn (Votes Bobby Jon)

Ian (Votes Stephanie)

Katie (Votes Ibrahim)

Tom (Votes Bobby Jon)

Jenn (Votes Ibrehem)

Gregg (Votes Angie)


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04-08-05, 03:03 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Well now I wonder why Tom voted for BJ then, but in last night's ep said he was happy to see Steph make it through. Why wouldn't he have voted with Ian for Steph? Things that you make you stop and go hmmmmmm ...
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16. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
I just watched Survivor Live with Bobby Jon and he said she mentioned this alliance to him. It was after they'd lost a couple of challenges and she mentioned that she had an alliance with Tom.
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17. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Did they elaborate on this or just move on to the next point?
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18. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Let's see, a caller asked about the scene with Tom and Ian. Bobby John was asked if this was ever mentioned. He said that on Day 2 Steph told him about it. Then he said after we lost and lost again she mentioned that she had an alliance with Tom. Jenna said something like, of course, you'd start to talk about what would happen when you merge and Bobby Jon agreed and then they pretty much moved on to the next caller.
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20. "RE: Does Stephanie even know she is part of an alliance?"
Here's a Houston Chronicle article.

On the CBS reality show, Koror tribe power player Tom Westman revealed a secret alliance between three Koror members and LaGrossa, established on the first day of the game before any survivors were split into tribes.

"She told me about that," Drinkard revealed. "I was actually approached to be a part of their alliance. I declined because it was only the first day, and we didn't know each other yet."


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