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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 02:36 PM (EST) "Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" courtesy of Harold... Survivor: Palau Episode 8 "Neanderthal Man" Thursday, April 7 CBS ------------------ Bobby Jon? Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... Debberz13 03-23-05 1    RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... Brownroach 03-23-05 2        RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... LibraRising 03-23-05 5            RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... syren 03-24-05 27                RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... bobscure 03-25-05 38        BR, please explain bebekid 03-23-05 8            RE: BR, please explain Brownroach 03-23-05 12  OH NO!! emydi 03-23-05 3    RE: OH NO!! Dakota 03-24-05 33  RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... Flowerpower 03-23-05 4    hmmmm.... emydi 03-23-05 6        RE: hmmmm.... Brownroach 03-23-05 7            RE: hmmmm.... emydi 03-23-05 10                RE: hmmmm.... Flowerpower 03-23-05 13                    RE: hmmmm.... Dakota 03-25-05 40  RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... Kiddiepool 03-23-05 9  RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... Corvis 03-23-05 11    RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal M... Flowerpower 03-23-05 15  Dissenting View Devious Weasel 03-23-05 14    Agree bebekid 03-23-05 16        RE: Agree JuniorTheorist 03-23-05 17        RE: Agree Surviette 03-23-05 18        RE: Agree VolcanicGlass 03-26-05 42    RE: Dissenting View Krautboy 03-23-05 19        Agree AyaK 03-23-05 20            Oh, the Irony! LookeeLoo 03-23-05 21                will they even bother with a vote? JuniorTheorist 03-24-05 22                    My two cents survivor_21 03-24-05 24                        A TC Challenge? FunTimeLost One 03-24-05 28                            RE: A TC Challenge? JuniorTheorist 03-26-05 41                    RE: will they even bother with a vo... Brownroach 03-24-05 26                        RE: will they even bother with a vo... samboohoo 03-24-05 29                        Some Scenarios Devious Weasel 03-24-05 30                        RE: will they even bother with a vo... PepeLePew13 03-24-05 31                            RE: will they even bother with a vo... Brownroach 03-24-05 32                                RE: will they even bother with a vo... emydi 03-24-05 34                        RE: will they even bother with a vo... Bebo 03-24-05 35                            RE: will they even bother with a vo... gwrbassin 03-25-05 36                            RE: will they even bother with a vo... Brownroach 03-28-05 44            Joining the company Bebo 03-25-05 37    RE: Dissenting View Debberz13 03-24-05 25        RE: Dissenting View Surviette 03-25-05 39            RE: Dissenting View Brownroach 03-28-05 43  I guess that makes James Estee 03-24-05 23    RE: I guess that makes James Arya Underfoot 03-29-05 45

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Debberz13 132 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-23-05, 02:50 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" That would be my guess too BR. Either Mer is wrong in her guess that her spoiler's clues lead to a showdown between Ibrehem and Steph. or the title is refering to Gregg. I just don't see Ib or anyone else being a "neaderthal man" . Personally I have always thought it was Bobby and Stephanie who would stick together until they can't anymore. They seem to have a great respect for each other's abilities.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 02:58 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" LAST EDITED ON 03-23-05 AT 03:40 PM (EST) Edited to remove previous message -- I was thinking this episode is next week but it's two weeks away. So what debberz is saying makes sense: Ibe goes next after James, then BJ. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

LibraRising 2847 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 03-23-05, 03:11 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" LAST EDITED ON 03-23-05 AT 03:13 PM (EST) Another thought -- maybe one of the women (I'm thinking Caryn) calls someone this? When I think of a Neanderthal, I don't think of someone rugged and strong, but rather someone outdated and behind-the-times. Perhaps someone does something perceived as sexist, or Caryn gets fed up with Tom's leadership again? ETA: The producers would not refer to Ibe as that, IMO. The word can carry racist overtones.   Top

syren 5418 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 11:12 AM (EST) 27. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" I was thinking Coby. When I think of Neanderthal, I think of someone really hairy. Spring? Here? Tell the weather. Coherent perceptions or reckless rambling   Top

bobscure 217 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-25-05, 10:40 AM (EST) 38. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" If there is a kidnapping I can absolutely see Katie or Coby calling BJ a Neanderthal man. That said, he's all over the vidcaps for ep. 7 and those caps juxtapose somebody who's fighting with somebody who's given up.   Top

bebekid 1621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 03-23-05, 03:43 PM (EST) 8. "BR, please explain" LAST EDITED ON 03-23-05 AT 04:13 PM (EST) Thanks, BR! I need to type faster! I have to say I agree with Corvis below. The likelihood that this title refers to BJ is low. This title alone is not enough to convince me that Mersaydeez is wrong about the last 2 Ulong men.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 03:59 PM (EST) 12. "RE: BR, please explain" I already corrected my post, see explanation above. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 03:01 PM (EST) 3. "OH NO!!" they're bringing back Rupert... He and Tom should get along...   Top

Dakota 5819 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 03:27 PM (EST) 33. "RE: OH NO!!" I was thinking dinner with Rupert as the week's RC reward. Oops! This doesn't look like Bashers, Toto! Charter Member: Club Anti-DAW   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 03:08 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" Yes, Neanderthal man, Tarzan, BJ, whatever you want to call him...we all know this has got to be Bobby Jon...   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 03:18 PM (EST) 6. "hmmmm...." so WE all do, do we?? I think it's TOM   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 03:29 PM (EST) 7. "RE: hmmmm...." Two episodes in a row referring to Tom? (The Great White Shark Hunter) Seems unlikely. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 03:47 PM (EST) 10. "RE: hmmmm...." umm, BR, I'm rattling FP's cage.. she wants to marry Tom... her and pms!! It may not be BJ but most likely...more fodder for my SOTS next week   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 03:59 PM (EST) 13. "RE: hmmmm...." No, emy! I want DOLPHIN BOY to win it all! I just commented in another thread that I wouldn't be disappointed at all to see Tom-boy win it either, a deserving, leader-type, for a change......but I'm still rooting for DOLPHIN BOY!!!!!   Top

Dakota 5819 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-25-05, 12:43 PM (EST) 40. "RE: hmmmm...." >No, emy! I want DOLPHIN >BOY to win it all! > I just commented in >another thread that I wouldn't >be disappointed at all to >see Tom-boy win it either, >a deserving, leader-type, for a >change......but I'm still rooting for >DOLPHIN BOY!!!!! We'd have to celebrate big time if a strong player actually won, although Mariano came close. But he was is scum. I'm tired of seeing the best liars win instead of those who are strongest in challenges, work at camp, etc. I'd be happy with a Coby, BJ or Steph win also, although that doesn't seem to be in the cards. I was impressed with Tom this week, consoling Janu. And I liked Steph saying she didn't like lying to BJ instead of grinning at the camera for being shrewd, a ploy that makes me want to say, "YOU'RE FIRED". Charter Member: Club Anti-DAW   Top

Kiddiepool 25 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-23-05, 03:45 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" Although the title is singular, perhaps it could be Stephenie referring to both of the remaining men on Ulong? or a Koror woman referring to the men? Neanderthal (slang): Crude, boorish, or slow-witted (okay, it is probably Bobby Jon...)   Top

Corvis 3130 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-23-05, 03:51 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" A long time ago, around season 4, I did an analysis of the titles and how often the referred to the boot. Turned out more often they not, they did not refer to the boot at all. (I never looked at seasons 5-8 to see if the pattern continued.) But looking at this season's titles, you'll see that only one of them referred to the boot so far. Ep. 1: "This Has Never Happened Before" - refers to the two person elimination, but doesn't give us any idea who goes. Ep. 2: "Love Is In the Air..." - refers to Jeff and Kim, neither of which was eliminated. Ep 3: "Dangerous Creatures and Horrible Setbacks" - refers to shark hunting and Jeff's injury. Jeff is booted. Ep 4 "Sumo at Sea" - refers to the immunity challenge. Ep 5: "The Best and Worst Reward Ever" - indirectly refers to the boot (worst reward), but gives no clue as to who the boot is. Ep. 6: "Jellyfish 'N Chips" - refers to the reward. Ep 7: "The Great White Shark Hunter" - refers to Tom (probably) and who thinks he'll be booted? Right. Ep. 8: "Neanderthal Man" - if it refers to BJ, I don't think he'll be booted here.   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 04:03 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Episode 8 Title: "Neanderthal Man"" ep.8: "Neanderthal Man" - if it refers to BJ, I don't think he'll be booted here. Yes, that's what I was thinking!   Top

Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 04:01 PM (EST) 14. "Dissenting View" It's not a person. It's the fire-creating challenge. Neanderthal Man is thought to be the first era of humankind able to create fire from scratch.   Top

bebekid 1621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 03-23-05, 04:25 PM (EST) 16. "Agree" And the great irony here will be that a woman wins the "Neanderthal Man" fire-starting challenge. And we know MB lvoes him some irony. As I said above, this title alone is not enough compelling evidence, IMO, to discount Mer's predictions of Steph/Ibe as the final 2 Ulong.   Top

JuniorTheorist 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-23-05, 05:38 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Agree" hear, hear bebekid! I think you're dead on; after all, the talk is moving toward Bobby Jon being the Neanderthal Man. I don't think it's any man in particular, but very specific to the fire-building challenge. Besides, Bobby Jon may switch to Koror tonight after all, eh? And yes, irony abounds that only Stephenie is able to make fire. Kicking all the hunter-gatherer butt.   Top

Surviette 124 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-23-05, 05:39 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Agree" Probably refers to Neanderthal Man, in general. But, maybe a departed BJ(boo hoo) has taken the Hawaiin Sling (Angie took the sewing kit) leaving Ibe to club some Nemos for Steph!   Top

VolcanicGlass 428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 03-26-05, 01:58 PM (EST) 42. "RE: Agree" I think that Mersaydeez only was certain about Stephenie in the fire-starting challenge. She thought the other person involved was either BobbyJon or Ibrehem. She leaned to Ibrehem, but was not given that specific information.   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 03-23-05, 06:10 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Dissenting View" Dweasel: I'm with you...remember the movie "Quest for Fire", set in prehistoric time around the time of Neanderthal Man... The movie was all about the power that came with being able to make and keep fire. EP8: Neanderthal Man = Fire Building Challenge for "survival" Krautboy   Top

AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-23-05, 06:28 PM (EST) 20. "Agree" ...which simply means that I'll be with good company (Krautboy and DW) if I'm wrong....   Top

LookeeLoo 1169 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 03-23-05, 06:46 PM (EST) 21. "Oh, the Irony!" I'll join that good company! And given that the female booties on Not-long-Ulong have all stated that there was a "I'm male, therefore listen to me because I'm the strongest and better than you" mentality, I will enjoy Steph yet again proving her strength. LookeeLoo Another Dicey Original 2004   Top

JuniorTheorist 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-24-05, 09:33 AM (EST) 22. "will they even bother with a vote?" If Steph wins immunity in the fire-building challenge as we expect, that leaves some questions unanswered. Will the fire-building challenge be the only thing going on at IC? Will there be a tribe face-off, and Ulong will lose again, forcing them into a special IC? And when Steph wins, do they even have to row over to TC and go through that formality, or will Jeff just come down to their beach and escort Ibrehem away?   Top

survivor_21 506 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 03-24-05, 10:23 AM (EST) 24. "My two cents" I would think that there is a traditional IC ( Koror vs. Ulong) that Unlong loses, again (cause they got rid of BJ and Ibe sucks). I would think that Jeff tells Ibe and Steph about what will happen at TC as soon as the lose the IC (to build up commerical time suspense). Then they (Ibe and Steph) go to TC where the "fire building" face-off takes place. Steph wins it and Ibe is finnaly gone! Just my two cents; no spoilers or inside information from me!   Top

FunTimeLost One 85 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-24-05, 11:53 AM (EST) 28. "A TC Challenge?" I like this idea of there being an individual IC at tribal council. Maybe both torches are snuffed and the first of Ibe or Steph to get theirs relit gets to stay. Creates high drama, would be even better if it is pouring rain. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Dr. Hunter S. Thompson And please, call me Funt   Top

JuniorTheorist 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-26-05, 11:10 AM (EST) 41. "RE: A TC Challenge?" Weird point to stick on, but I don't think they'd extinguish and then re-light the torches. With the exception of torches blown out by the wind or rain, a torch has never been re-lit (except, technically, when Lil and Burton rejoined the game). Survivor is almost mechanical now; there are things you do and don't do.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 10:44 AM (EST) 26. "RE: will they even bother with a vote?" The big question at the moment is: How does Steph not get voted out next week? Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

samboohoo 17173 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 02:29 PM (EST) 29. "RE: will they even bother with a vote?" I wonder that myself, BR. Crowned by Pooh. Decorated by Syren   Top

Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 02:52 PM (EST) 30. "Some Scenarios" 1. An Ulongite gets kidnapped. 2. The CBS Misdirection is about Ulong, and the person who steps in to take over is Steph and the person who fails is the person who goes home.   Top

PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 02:56 PM (EST) 31. "RE: will they even bother with a vote?" Cause Bobby Jon is dumber than a bag of hammers and Steph can probably talk him into selling his first born's soul -- she'd point out something like "u know what? we've got to stick together or we'll be made into mincemeat by Koror if one of us goes with Ibe." Bobby Jon ends up buying a bridge from Steph. Scratch and sniff   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 03:24 PM (EST) 32. "RE: will they even bother with a vote?" Well, a) I don't think BJ is dumber than a bag of hammers, and b) two weeks ago Stephenie wanted BJ out as a post-merge threat (which was really dumb on her part, but I digress). But BJ did say he thinks he has a better chance going with Stephenie than with Ibee, so maybe he decides that is still in his best interest after all. Assuming BJ doesn't get voted out next. I don't like the focus on him in the previews. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 03:48 PM (EST) 34. "RE: will they even bother with a vote?" LAST EDITED ON 03-24-05 AT 04:45 PM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 03-24-05 AT 04:43 PM (EST) BR, you and KB are the Mersaydeez and CMC experts, what exactly was said about the "kidnapping" of a male? Bc it might not happen and in Ep. 7 BJ is ousted bc Steph is afraid BJ will make her pay for her mistake of voting for Ibe instead of James and she convinces Ibe to vote BJ in Ep. 7--we know she can and will lie. Then Ep. 8 "Neand Man" is just her and Ibe in the fire challenge...and Ibe loses and joins BJ in LL Then Steph spends a nite alone and Ep. 9 she is blended into Koror. Bc if the kidnapping of BJ occurs in Ep. 7 then does he return to Ulong in Ep. 8 against Steph in Neand. Man and loses the fire building challenge to her... Then Steph would have had to spend more than one nite alone depening on when BJ is returned to Ulong. ETA: But that would mean there would have to be another challenge at TC in Ep. 7--Steph vs. Ibe and Steph wins that one too...when is the "merge" listed on the storyboard? ETA: I checked and it says Ep. 10 but that can't be bc of Koror's dominance so it can be any time from Ep. 7 to Ep. 9 Like pms said in the misdirection thread, could it be that the fire challenge is in Ep. 7 and BJ is kidnapped and off to koror for good... After Steph beats IBe at Ep. 7 TC she spends the nite alone and then is "merged" into Koror which already has BJ in Ep. 8? Then Ep. 8 "Neand Man" could just be about BJ in his new surroundings.. and how he is ousted when he doesn't win Ind. Immunity   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 10:55 PM (EST) 35. "RE: will they even bother with a vote?" >How does Steph not get voted out next week? By playing the distrust card if BJ gets kidnapped. She could plant a seed of doubt in Ibe's mind that BJ will abandon Ibe for his new "friends". The only hope Ibe and Steph have of staying in the game is to hook up with the Koror minority alliance post-merge and topple the leaders. We know this doesn't succeed, but it's their last possible hope. "If there was ever a time you wanted permission to run over a clown . . . ."   Top

gwrbassin 25 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-25-05, 10:10 AM (EST) 36. "RE: will they even bother with a vote?" First time i have posted I have been on this board for the last year or two and feel it is the best on the web. I was thinking what if BJ was booted next and the next day they get to kidnap IBE. Then at the next IC everyone has to set out but 1 against Steph. They choose IBE to go against her and IBE loses leaving Steph the only on left and she is merged in with the others. Just a guess but that is what I was thinking.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-28-05, 11:36 AM (EST) 44. "RE: will they even bother with a vote?" By playing the distrust card if BJ gets kidnapped That's what I was getting at -- it seems that *something* weird has to happen for Stephenie to stay around beyond Ep 7. BJ and Ibe have always voted for the same person except on two occasions -- in Ep 2 when Ibe didn't vote for Ashlee because she picked him for the tribe (though he probably knew she was leaving); and at the first vote in Ep 5 after Ibe got immunity, when the votes couldn't be coordinated. BJ and Ibe have never voted against each other when the other one has gotten votes. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-25-05, 10:18 AM (EST) 37. "Joining the company" Corvis pointed out that only one episode title has referred to the bootee so far. Well, this could bring the total up to 2, as the man (in this case, Ibe) loses the neanderthal challenge. "If there was ever a time you wanted permission to run over a clown . . . ."   Top

Debberz13 132 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-24-05, 10:24 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Dissenting View" Very good Weasel. I didn't even think to go in the direction of a challenge for the name. (I still think it may come down to BJ and Steph.)   Top

Surviette 124 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-25-05, 11:25 AM (EST) 39. "RE: Dissenting View" Neanderthal Man might refer to one man, one woman,(what will be left of Ulong) as in the beginning of Man. BUT no arguing that the title suits both BJ and the Fire-Challenge!   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-28-05, 11:28 AM (EST) 43. "RE: Dissenting View" I agree the title could refer both to a person and a situation. It seems to me that whenever the Ep title is an appellation for a human being, it refers in some way to a specific person. It could refer to someone because of their actions, or something said about a person by someone else, or something the person in question says him/herself. As a situational title, I would also consider that this could refer to the aftermath of what happens in Ep 7. E.g., if the fire-building challenge occurs at the end of Ep 7 because a Ulong has been kidnapped over to Koror, that would put Stephenie all alone at the start of Ep 8 -- the last of an extinct breed. It could fit. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-24-05, 10:17 AM (EST) 23. "I guess that makes James" Particle Man.   Top

Arya Underfoot 14 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-29-05, 05:08 AM (EST) 45. "RE: I guess that makes James" That just made me spit soda across the room. God bless you Estee ^_^   Top

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