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"Jump the Shark: spoiling tool ep5"
forehead 932 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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03-14-05, 12:58 PM (EST)
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"Jump the Shark: spoiling tool ep5" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-05 AT 01:01 PM (EST)As requested by kary1371 and BR, here is the list of questions for ep 5. The original thread started by KB is here: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5703&forum=DCForumID2&omm=0 Points in () 1. (5) How many full days will this episode cover? One, Two, Three, None of the above or inconclusive 2. (5) According to CBS, "one castaway neglects fire duty and dozes off, and a tribemate becomes bitter having to lose valuable sleep to pick up the slack." Which tribe are they talking about? 3. (5) Which castaway will doze off during fire duty? Angie, Bobby Jon, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ian, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jenn, Katie, Stephenie, Tom, Willard, None of the above or inconclusive 4. (5) Who will become bitter at having to lose sleep? Angie, Bobby Jon, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ian, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jenn, Katie, Stephenie, Tom, Willard, None of the above or inconclusive 5. (15) What best describes the challenge(s) in this episode? Both Reward and Immunity Challenges on separate days, Reward and Immunity Challenges on the same day but completely separate, One 'Super Challenge' in different stages involving both Reward and Immunity, Only a Reward Challenge, None of the above is correct 6. (15) What type of Immunity will be offered in this episode? Tribal Immunity, Individual Immunity for a single person, Individual Immunities for more than one person, No type of Immunity is offered, None of the above is correct or inconclusive 7. (5) What is the complete list of Koror members who will compete in the Reward Challenge? Caryn Coby Ian Tom, Coby Gregg Janu Tom, Coby Ian Jenn Tom, Ian Katie Tom Willard, Coby Jenn Katie Tom, Some other quartet, All Koror members will compete, None of the above answers is correct 8. (15) Which tribe will win thre reward challenge? Koror, Ulong, none of the above 9. (10) According to CBS, one tribe is taunted and tormented as they have to sit and watch the other tribe enjoy a great reward right in front of them. What is the specific reward they are referring to? Food, They get to loot the other tribe's camp, They get to take someone from the other tribe, Something involving voting for the other tribe at TC, None of the above or inconclusive 10. (10) What best describes what will take place at Tribal Council(s) at the TC location we have already seen in past episodes? Both tribes are present at the same TC - Only members from one tribe vote, Both tribes are present at the same TC - Members from both tribes vote, Two separate TC's take place; separated by tribe, One tribal TC takes place, One TC takes place involving everyone; tribes no longer exist, One or more person will be eliminated but it will not happen at TC, None of the above answers is correct or inconclusive 11. (5) Which player from Koror will end up switching to Ulong in this episode? Caryn only, Coby only, Gregg only, Ian only, Janu only, Jenn only, Katie only, Tom only, Willard only, More than one person will switch, None of the above answers is correct 12. (5) Which player from Ulong will end up switching to Koror in this episode? Angie only, Bobby only, Ibrehem only, James only, More than one person will switch, None of the above answers (or g.) is correct, Stephanie (oops. choice initially missing. added later) 13. (5) Who will Angie vote against at Tribal Council? (first vote if more than one) Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, Tom, Willard, None of the above 14. (5) Who will Stephanie vote against at Tribal Council (first vote if more than one) Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, Tom, Willard, None of the above 15. (5) Who will Janu vote against at Tribal Council (first vote if more than one) Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, Tom, Willard, None of the above 16. (5) Who will Ian vote against at Tribal Council? (first vote if more than one) Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, Tom, Willard, None of the above 17. (15) Who from Koror will be eliminated? Caryn only, Coby, Gregg, Ian, Janu, Jenn, Katie, Tom, Willard, None of the above or more than one 18. (15) Who from Ulong will be eliminated? Angie, Bobby, Ibrehem, James, Stephanie, None of the above or more than one Close but no car...
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kary1371 631 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-14-05, 01:15 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Jump the Shark: spoiling tool ep5" |
Thanks! This is great!
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-14-05, 04:23 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Jump the Shark: spoiling tool ep5" |
9. (10) According to CBS, one tribe is taunted and tormented as they have to sit and watch the other tribe enjoy a great reward right in front of them. What is the specific reward they are referring to?Food, They get to loot the other tribe's camp, They get to take someone from the other tribe, Something involving voting for the other tribe at TC, None of the above or inconclusive
OK, here's my red flag question...someone help me puzzle this out.
According to TDT, two of these things take place - taking someone from the other tribe, and voting for the other tribe at TC. But Snewser gives us mutually exclusive options. TDT's wording is quite specific on the timing of the acquisition: We were told circa Ep1 that, at some later point in the game, one tribe would win the chance to spy on the other at tribal council. After listening to the other tribe's proceedings, the winning tribe then gets to steal one person from the other tribe, effectively granting (temporary) individual immunity. So, does this mean that the specific reward involving the taunting is Koror winning the right to vote someone out for Ulong? Is the individual immunity a twist thrown at them at the TC itself, that none of them were expecting? Beblo and Kimdra
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drich61 558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-14-05, 05:03 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Jump the Shark: spoiling tool ep5" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-05 AT 05:05 PM (EST)TDT's wording is quite specific on the timing of the acquisition: We were told circa Ep1 that, at some later point in the game, one tribe would win the chance to spy on the other at tribal council. After listening to the other tribe's proceedings, the winning tribe then gets to steal one person from the other tribe, effectively granting (temporary) individual immunity. According to TDT, two of these things take place - taking someone from the other tribe, and voting for the other tribe at TC. But Snewser gives us mutually exclusive options. I may be missing something, but where in that first piece of info does it talk about voting for the other tribe. As I read it, it says one tribe goes to the others TC, and before the vote is taken one member is stolen. Which is how that person would be effectively granted (temporary) individual immunity.
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-14-05, 06:04 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Jump the Shark: spoiling tool ep5" |
That's the point -- who knows what it was referring to? For this week, this might be equally vague: One tribe is taunted and tormented as they have to sit and watch the other tribe enjoy a great reward right in front of them. Or, at least vague enough that the answer to Snewser's question would have to be "inconclusive". Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.
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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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03-14-05, 05:36 PM (EST)
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5. "( First vote if more than one )" |
In questions 13-16, Snewser asks who certain individuals will vote for. The spoiling clue seems to be that he qualifies his questions by adding "(first vote if more than one)". This is not something Snewser normally adds to his vote questions.We might conclude that someone will vote more than once and while it's possible that this could happen in a tie-breaker, it's more likely that one tribe votes twice, while the other must sit and watch... Krautboy
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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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03-14-05, 05:46 PM (EST)
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7. "Question #12" |
12. (5) Which player from Ulong will end up switching to Koror in this episode? Angie only, Bobby only, Ibrehem only, James only, More than one person will switch, None of the above answers (or g.) is correct, Stephanie (oops. choice initially missing. added later)The spoiling clue in this question can be found in Snewser inadvertant omission of Stephenie name from his original list. This would suggest that either there is no player switch (so it disn't matter whose names were on the list of choices) or, the player switched was already on the list and he overlooked one of the many not switched. We can probably conclude that if there is a switch, Stephenie is not involved... Krautboy
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-14-05, 06:12 PM (EST)
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10. "A couple of ?'s" |
Firstly let's start with Question #7: What is the complete list of Koror members who will compete in the Reward Challenge? Caryn Coby Ian Tom, Coby Gregg Janu Tom, Coby Ian Jenn Tom, Ian Katie Tom Willard, Coby Jenn Katie Tom, Some other quartet, All Koror members will compete, None of the above answers is correctUlong has 5 people on their tribe. So why wouldn't 5 people be competing from Koror? Does the "switch" "tribemate stealing" happen before the challenge? Or is it just as simple as "None of the above" or "All Koror compete"? #9: According to CBS, one tribe is taunted and tormented as they have to sit and watch the other tribe enjoy a great reward right in front of them. What is the specific reward they are referring to?
Taunting, teasing and enjoying all seem to fit with a food reward or looting the other tribes camp. But, I just don't see any taunting or teasing going on if they simply get to sit in on the other tribes TC (in which they probably aren't allowed to speak during anyways), then "stealing" someone from the other tribe. Again, am I just missing something here? #10: What best describes what will take place at Tribal Council(s) at the TC location we have already seen in past episodes?
Firstly, why the notation about the TC location we have already seen in the past. Is there a new one? Does someone get booted before the challenge even takes place? The choices for the question are; Both tribes are present at the same TC - Only members from one tribe vote. (Possible, as it could fit with one tribe winning "reward" which is only they get to vote at TC. But, still it doesn't settle well with me.) Both tribes are present at the same TC - Members from both tribes vote. (doesn't sound likely, unless someone has indeed been "switched" or "given" temporary immunity.) Two separate TC's take place; separated by tribe. (Possible, but how would this be different from other "double-boot" episodes) One tribal TC takes place. (Nope, we've been told 2 people will go home) One TC takes place involving everyone; tribes no longer exist. (Merge? this early? Doubtful.) One or more person will be eliminated but it will not happen at TC. (AHA! this one could fit!) None of the above answers is correct or inconclusive. (yeah, whatever) #11-#16: Piecing together the info, it would seem that if indeed someone was "switched" that person would probably not have a vote. As the "losing" tribe would go to TC first then the "spying" tribe would listen in on the proceedings and then choose which member to steal. That person would then not get a chance to vote during their own tribes TC, making them somewhat immune. (And, I do not think they would be allowed to vote in their new tribe's TC either.) So, if Ian / Stephenie / Janu / Angie all are given the chance to vote, then it would seem that none of them are switched. (to go even further TDT mentions that the most likely "switchers" would be Stephenie or BJ. But since Stephenie and Angie are choices #13/#14. I would venture to say that BJ is indeed the one to switch.) Or am I just thinking too much? Sn'DCS©MMIV
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thetick 279 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-15-05, 00:42 AM (EST)
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16. "my hoax-o-meter" |
...so i have a questionhow long can we reasonably expect this to remain a valuable spoiling tool? things that have my hoax-o-meter 2000 series currently at full rev: 1.Snewsers own veiled references to a spoiler's eventual downfall 2.TDT's cryptic allusions to spying/switching and how this tails into JTS questions when TDT is known to share info w/ Snews 3.the BJ spoiler and some of the supposed internal conflicts w/ Merc... also, I have to admit that the name of the spoiler, "the BJ Spoiler", bothers me... if you were going to hoax someone and you could have it involve BJ wouldn't that be a brilliantly ironic/typically childish way to tell them up front that you were f-ing with them 4....and just when you thought... wait, that's another shark ref... so now we get a Sera sighting for the sole purpose of 'no comment'-ing and 'organizational' restructuring i've lurked awhile
it seems to me that Snews has always enjoyed messing around with the other sites to demonstrate his superiority at spoiling. it occurs to me to wonder how must he take it to have his own game used against him? i further can't imagine that the team name in his game of this site's uberspoilers has escaped his attention. we are now approaching 200 posts over two threads all devoted to his game. as we have seen him in the past to release his picks early, at varying times, and/or in differing cryptic ways in order to mess with the game players on other sites, i just have to wonder... how long before he starts to intentionally insert things into the phrasing of the questions in order to deceive those he feel may be overanalyzing the game to his detriment but i'm paranoid
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-15-05, 08:19 PM (EST)
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21. "Comment" |
I don't want to say too much about your speculation, thetick, because I have a lack of actual knowledge of Snewser's motivations. But...One of the questions that has been debated for a long time is whether having sources that tell you what's coming next is spoiling. I have always insisted that it is (although people used to disagree with that -- do they still disagree?). Snewser doesn't make any bones about generally having such sources (unlike other spoilers that I can think of, who tried to hide the existence of anything other than "superior logic" -- which, to me, makes Snewser more honest, but I digress). Does Snewser want to play games with other spoilers? Sure, to some extent. But I can't remember any time when he's deliberately misled other spoilers, only times when he has placed teasing hints ahead of the episode dates (which I always figured were attempts to boost his page views, not actual efforts to "taunt" with superior knowledge). The "one spoiler is initially right, then is wrong" seems like that kind of hint to me. A long time ago, a group of people decided that actual knowledge about the upcoming episodes should be withheld until the day of the show. These people first believed that Mark Burnett was "evil," but decided to hold off to conceal the existence of a particular source. Over time, though, they saw some really bad reality shows come along, and they concluded that the better reason to conceal actual knowledge until the day of an episode was that the show was so superior to most of its competition -- indicating that "collaborating" to keep secrets until the day of the show wasn't really "collaborating with evil"; instead, it was collaborating with good reality TV against bad reality TV. Snewser wasn't part of that group, but he has followed that protocol for years now. If Snewser deliberately wanted to mess everyone up, he could. From experience, I know how easy it is to fool people if you have actual knowledge and are interested in fooling them. (N.B. I wasn't the one doing the fooling, but I have seen others do it when both they and I knew what was coming next.) But, having known Snewser for a few years, I'd be surprised if he were one bit interested in that; it's too easy. Instead, I'd expect that he'd be more interested in trying to cleverly convey some of what he knows without actually giving anything concrete away ... which is why the questions are a useful spoiling aid. That DOESN'T mean that he'll have the level of knowledge needed to avoid inadvertent misdirection every week. It doesn't mean he's pulling a hoax, though.
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Corvis 3130 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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03-15-05, 04:21 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: TDT Update - NO SWITCH" |
From CMC at Sucks:callmecrazee Registered User (3/15/05 2:54 pm) Reply ezSupporter Re: Time will tell What I heard...one tribe gets to eavesdrop on the other's TC, but before they vote, the eavesdroppers appear and get to immunize the one person it appears the tribe is going to vote for, screwing up the vote because the tribe has to vote right away without a chance to talk about who else to vote for. The immunizing may or may not be a POW situation where they get to steal the person back to their own tribe, but this may happen later. I've been waiting to post either one of these because I wasn't given a timeline or whether they happened together, but it could fit in a double boot situation.
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biancaxxx 282 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-16-05, 01:50 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: A new JTS thread each week?" |
Sounds good to me!
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kary1371 631 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-16-05, 11:22 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: jumping into the fray" |
Considering your standing in this game, I'll trust you with this!
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-16-05, 12:08 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: jumping into the fray" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-16-05 AT 12:24 PM (EST)I think the TC's are going to take up most of the second half of the episode. So between the beginning filler, the challenge, and whatever goes on between the challenge and TC, there would hardly be time to show two days' worth of stuff anyway. I'm not playing the Jump the Shark game but my money would be on one day. ETA: I'm seeing people mentioning the individual immunity again. I'm wondering if MB would have changed the storyboard scenario since Ulong is down by so many members. The original plan may have been to have the members of the winning tribe cast votes (along with the losing tribe) in the losing tribe's TC. If the tribes were more or less even in number, the extra votes could influence the outcome. But with one tribe having a 9-5 advantage, that scenario would be pointless no matter which tribe won the challenge. So maybe he decided to let the winning tribe give someone immunity instead. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.
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kary1371 631 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-16-05, 12:11 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: jumping into the fray" |
I agree.
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JuniorTheorist 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-18-05, 01:42 AM (EST)
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41. "RE: jumping into the fray" |
>Well that could be true...but what >if it's the reverse? What >if MB wants them to >think hard about who they >want to vote for, then >once the TC happens (which >I'd say involves giving immunity >to another player on the >opposite team) it would totally >ruin all of the hard-planning >that was done and create >chaos! > >I still have one day though...too >scared to change it to >two lol. I mean obviously we've seen how this played out; thank you guys for your overwhelming and critical response to one of my first posts. The reason I've stuck with SurvivorBlows message board is the all-inclusive atmosphere. I read all the other boards as far as it takes me, and I love the "serious" atmosphere of this board. I'm considering teaching a course (in college) on reality television, using 'Survivor' as the core element of the course. I want to engage my students (multi-ethnic blue-collar students) in current media discourse. I want to make sure that I'm engaged; you wouldn't mind if next season my students felt their way through this board?? Just some thoughts; thank y'all for being so accepting.
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klk131 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-16-05, 02:48 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Jump the Shark: spoiling tool ep5 --answers??" |
>LAST EDITED ON 03-14-05 >AT 01:01 PM (EST) > >As requested by kary1371 and BR, >here is the list of >questions for ep 5. >The original thread started by >KB is here: >http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5703&forum=DCForumID2&omm=0 > >Points in () > >1. (5) How many full days >will this episode cover? >One, Two, Three, None of the >above or inconclusive > >2. (5) According to CBS, "one >castaway neglects fire duty and >dozes off, and a tribemate >becomes bitter having to lose >valuable sleep to pick up >the slack." Which tribe are >they talking about? > >3. (5) Which castaway will doze >off during fire duty? >Angie, Bobby Jon, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, >Ian, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jenn, >Katie, Stephenie, Tom, Willard, None >of the above or inconclusive > > >4. (5) Who will become bitter >at having to lose sleep? > >Angie, Bobby Jon, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, >Ian, Ibrehem, James, Janu, Jenn, >Katie, Stephenie, Tom, Willard, None >of the above or inconclusive > > >5. (15) What best describes the >challenge(s) in this episode? >Both Reward and Immunity Challenges on >separate days, Reward and Immunity >Challenges on the same day >but completely separate, One 'Super >Challenge' in different stages involving >both Reward and Immunity, Only >a Reward Challenge, None of >the above is correct > >6. (15) What type of Immunity >will be offered in this >episode? >Tribal Immunity, Individual Immunity for a >single person, Individual Immunities for >more than one person, No >type of Immunity is offered, >None of the above is >correct or inconclusive > >7. (5) What is the complete >list of Koror members who >will compete in the Reward >Challenge? >Caryn Coby Ian Tom, Coby Gregg >Janu Tom, Coby Ian Jenn >Tom, Ian Katie Tom Willard, >Coby Jenn Katie Tom, Some >other quartet, All Koror members >will compete, None of the >above answers is correct > >8. (15) Which tribe will win >thre reward challenge? >Koror, Ulong, none of the above > > >9. (10) According to CBS, one >tribe is taunted and tormented >as they have to sit >and watch the other tribe >enjoy a great reward right >in front of them. What >is the specific reward they >are referring to? >Food, They get to loot the >other tribe's camp, They get >to take someone from the >other tribe, Something involving voting >for the other tribe at >TC, None of the above >or inconclusive > >10. (10) What best describes what >will take place at Tribal >Council(s) at the TC location >we have already seen in >past episodes? >Both tribes are present at the >same TC - Only members >from one tribe vote, Both >tribes are present at the >same TC - Members from >both tribes vote, Two separate >TC's take place; separated by >tribe, One tribal TC takes >place, One TC takes place >involving everyone; tribes no longer >exist, One or more person >will be eliminated but it >will not happen at TC, >None of the above answers >is correct or inconclusive > >11. (5) Which player from Koror >will end up switching to >Ulong in this episode? >Caryn only, Coby only, Gregg only, >Ian only, Janu only, Jenn >only, Katie only, Tom only, >Willard only, More than one >person will switch, None of >the above answers is correct > > >12. (5) Which player from Ulong >will end up switching to >Koror in this episode? >Angie only, Bobby only, Ibrehem only, >James only, More than one >person will switch, None of >the above answers (or g.) >is correct, Stephanie (oops. choice >initially missing. added later) > >13. (5) Who will Angie vote >against at Tribal Council? (first >vote if more than one) > >Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, >James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, >Tom, Willard, None of the >above > >14. (5) Who will Stephanie vote >against at Tribal Council (first >vote if more than one) > >Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, >James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, >Tom, Willard, None of the >above > >15. (5) Who will Janu vote >against at Tribal Council (first >vote if more than one) > >Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, >James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, >Tom, Willard, None of the >above > >16. (5) Who will Ian vote >against at Tribal Council? (first >vote if more than one) > >Angie, Bobby, Caryn, Coby, Gregg, Ibrehem, >James, Janu, Jennifer, Katie, Stephanie, >Tom, Willard, None of the >above > >17. (15) Who from Koror will >be eliminated? >Caryn only, Coby, Gregg, Ian, Janu, >Jenn, Katie, Tom, Willard, None >of the above or more >than one > >18. (15) Who from Ulong will >be eliminated? >Angie, Bobby, Ibrehem, James, Stephanie, None >of the above or more >than one > > >Close but no car... >where do you get the answers for these are do you find out the answers in the ep5? first time poster on here. so I am lost. Thanks so much! klk
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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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03-16-05, 02:58 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Jump the Shark: spoiling tool ep5 --answers??" |
Welcome klk...these are questions from a spoiling game called "Jump the Shark". It can be found at SurvivorNews.Net.The answers will be found out during tonight's show and those who have predicted correctly wioll receive points. This thread is really intended to be about using the questions to "spoil" the show by guessing what the person writing the questions (Snewser)knows about the show before it airs. Enjoy the show tonight. It should be interesting... Krautboy
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