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"CBS WEB PROMO EPISODE 13"
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"CBS WEB PROMO EPISODE 13" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-03-04 AT 12:21 PM (EST)Ok the pics are not available but here are a few interesting things. Eliza, Chris, Twila, Julie make it to the pig round.
Chris, Twila, Julie make it to the Tiki round.
Chris looses and it comes down to Julie/Twila for II The large challenge is for Immunity not reward Edited to add: Could be combined RC/IC - eward is somewhere near a volcano - 2 people take part in it. Could be Julie/Twila last two in II The misdirection is that the girls come together and take out Chris.
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12-03-04, 12:28 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: CBS WEB PROMO EPISODE 13" |
So let's match Julie/Twila winning the promo from last night's episode:Either The whole show is about Twila not being trusted and thus a target, she wins Immunity, and Julie goes as planned OR Julie wins Immunity and everything we've seen about Twila's tyrade makes her the one voted out.
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12-03-04, 12:38 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: CBS WEB PROMO EPISODE 13" |
Me too. Twila is way too exposed in the vidcap promo for next week. This must be misdirection, and will continue to be used through out the episode to make us think that Twila is being voted out.
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12-03-04, 01:05 PM (EST)
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7. "Here are some vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-03-04 AT 01:29 PM (EST)
From the speedy montage at the beginning, I found these:
Three muddy folks lined up.
Part of the mega-challenge for immunity.
Twila building a tiki tower.
Jeff at the start of a challenge. Note the Twila sign.
These signposts are visible in a later cap when the idiots
are all running in different directions around blue-shirted Jeff.
Eliza and Julie looking calm, clean and attentive.
Either a reward challenge, or recycled shot.
It Was... another weird sign. Reward challenge?
A muddy Scout, probably from the mega-challenge.
This is probably a staged elimination, and Scout has been sidelined.
From the regular speed portion: 
Two folks at the volcano, one of them is Chris.
I believe the other is Scout, but it might be Twila.
Twila and Eliza argue. Same scene from the broadcast preview.
Chris looking smug. He confesses the women all trust him.
Start of the immunity challenge? All five dive toward a mud crawl.
Eliza, you dirty girl! Pig-catching is part two of the IC.
And somebody behind her already has one.
Part of the IC... run around like idiots. OK, maybe they are collecting tiki pieces.
In any case, you can clearly see the posts, and five contestants running
(well, Scout is sorta moving) around Jeff in the blue shirt.
(In the shot of Jeff saying "Go" he's wearing a brown shirt. Recycled?)
Chris's tiki begins to fall, and he smacks it down.
Balance beam... seems to be Julie on the left, Twila on the right.
Julie jumping onto a net at the end of the balance beam.
Julie lands in the net. You can clearly see her hair here.
Final stage of IC: Shoot rocks and...
... light the wok.
At the end, a shot of Chris laughing.
And five torches on the way to TC.
These reality show contestants need a reality check!
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12-03-04, 08:34 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Here are some vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-05-04 AT 06:35 PM (EST)I found more vidcaps at Mess, courtesy of Garbotalk: 
Edited to add a 2nd pic of Julie at the end of the Sucha that I found at Survivor fever: 
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12-06-04, 10:15 AM (EST)
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42. "SCOUT IMUNITY WINNER?!?!?!" |
I dont know how to post vidcaps, but Am I seeing things or is cap 19 scout's sign with the Immunity necklace hanging on it???
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12. "SuCha isn't IC... it's RC. "Scramble" is IC" |
I don't believe the SuCha is IC (and like this week, it's not a combined challenge either)The key is this shot:
This is clearly not part of the SuCha (which consists of 5 already established elimination segments) What has me convinced that this "scramble" shot is IC is that when they're showing clips of the SuCha and the voiceover says "And the winner of this challenge goes to the Final Four. Guaranteed", at the instant the voice says "this challenge", we get the snippet of the "scramble" inserted into the middle of the SuCha snippets. The high profile use of Sucha with the "Final Four" graphics and commentary is misdirection, and the "this challenge" juxtaposition with the "scramble" shot points us to the real IC. ~ When's all been said and done, far more will have been said than done. ~
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12-03-04, 03:43 PM (EST)
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14. "Two Challenges:" |
We are being shown both challenges here-RC- Super land challenge the reward I am guessing is a 2nd Car. They have given away multiple cars before, heck in Marquesas they gave them all a car at the reunion. The Super land challenge comes down to Twila vs Julie. Who wins the car? IC- Is the Scramble as shown in several caps. 
Is that the IN is on the post next to Jiffy?
Right before IC.
At the start of IC, looks like the posts have different sayings, and they may have to answer the questions and run to the next post and match up the name of who did what.
I have marked what I see in the above picture. They may each have a torch that is unlit and next to it is a sign with their name on it. In order to light the torch, they need to put the other signs in sequence?
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12-03-04, 04:12 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Two Challenges:" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-03-04 AT 04:19 PM (EST)I've tracked through the video about 15 times.
You have all the positions correct, except one.
Julie is actually in front of the fire cauldron.
It's hard to see her in this particular frame, but
obvious when you see it in motion. I didn't know the mega challenge was for reward.
That certainly clears up any confusion.
ALSO...
Could the Immunity Challenge be some Jeopardy rip-off? That would explain a sign that says, "It Was..." Example:
Centrally located sign says "It Was Rory."
Search for the corresponding sign that says:
"Who claimed to be grown-##### man?"
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12-03-04, 04:21 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Two Challenges:" |
Could the Immunity Challenge be some Jeopardy rip-off?That would explain a sign that says, "It Was..." Example:
Centrally located sign says "It Was Rory."
Search for the corresponding sign that says:
"Who claimed to be grown-##### man?" Thats what I was thinking TJ, something along those lines.
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12-03-04, 04:49 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Two Challenges:" |
I like it. Sample match-ups:FIRST GROUP OF SIGNS: 1. On Day 2 Scout said to the Cameraman...
2. It was Day 6 when Dolly said to Twila...
3. Later, on Day 16 Rory said to Scout...
4. In the boat on Day 24, Chris said...
5. Sometime on Day 30 Leann said to the women...
SECOND GROUP OF SIGNS:
A. ...Eliza is annoying, we should vote for her.
B. ...Scout wants to burn Eliza.
C. ...So it's agreed, we'll keep Chris and get rid of Eliza.
D. ...I really want Eliza gone.
E. ...I'd rather vote out Eliza.
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12-03-04, 05:19 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Two Challenges:" |
I don't think they are feathers because you can clearly see something blue and white hanging from them. I don't know if this is the same thing on Twila's or if that is the actual IN, but I definetly do not think they are feathers.
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12-03-04, 05:22 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Two Challenges:" |
Is the blue and white thing I see, coiled ropes? Do they have to connect one sign to another to form an answer with rope?
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12-03-04, 06:18 PM (EST)
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26. "Another puzzle?" |
It strikes me as odd that the two signs we see -- TWILA and IT WAS -- have almost the same letters in them. And that the signs look identical. And why are signs with the contestants' names needed for this challenge anyway? So I got an idea: maybe they have to collect signs that contain all the letters of all five contestants' names, but jumbled up. You cannot have any repeats or extra letters. For example, this would be a "winning" combination of signs: IT WAS
I CHILL
ZERO
JUST I
A CLUE The above combination contains all the letters in: TWILA
JULIE
CHRIS
SCOUT
ELIZA The trick would be that there are additional signs with different words/phrases containing the same letters, to throw the contestants off. There is only one combination that will give you the exact solution. Or maybe my puzzlehead mentality is just going into overdrive. 
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12-04-04, 11:02 AM (EST)
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34. "Last week's out of place vidcap" |
This pic bothered me last week. I said then that it looks like the light behind Scout is from something other than a fire. It also was not anywhere to be seen in Ep. 12 or in the Insider videos.
Combine that shot with this shot: 
The light behind Scout in the first photo looks alot more like lantern light then it does firelight. I think Scout is the person on the left in the volcano shot. I can also make out the bottom of her baggy orange shorts and her denim top. Whoever wins the reward takes Scout.  Sylvester (just call me CAT)
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12-04-04, 11:49 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Last week's out of place vidcap" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-05-04 AT 06:34 PM (EST)KO, I'm surprised that Julie would take Scout, but I do think that is Julie on the right. When you watch the promo, there is a split second when it looks like the back of Julie's neck shows between the 2 braids. That does look to be Chris's hat, and other promos show Julie wearing it again in Ep. 13. Julie does have baggy tan pants also: 
I could see Julie taking Scout I guess. Twila looks to be going off on everyone this week, Julie already has Eliza (and from past comments isn't as fond of Eliza as Eliza is of her),
and perhaps Julie feels a little sorry for Scout. Ami was pretty rude to Scout last week, and it was discussed that Scout was humiliated by her inability to compete. Scout is also the only one left who hasn't gotten a reward trip. Julie could see it as a chance to worm her way into the new alliance perhaps. My other thought was that Twila won reward and chose to give it away to Scout. I can see Scout choosing Chris to go with her.
I'm not sure who the person on the right is, but imho it is either Chris or Julie. Edited to add pic. Call me Cat!
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12-06-04, 04:21 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Julie at the volcano" |
Just as I thought. I missed that entirely (Emy's post). Thanks.
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12-06-04, 05:02 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Twila's Tee-Shirt" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-04 AT 05:05 PM (EST)
How can that be anyone but Chris on the right? Height (full head taller than the one on the left), bulk, hat (OK, anyone could be wearing the hat). Has Chris been shown in long pants, or could those be shorts on the right?
In this picture, Scout, Twila, and Julie are all about the same height, Chris is at least a half a head taller than that. The contrast between Julies height and Chris's height are comparable in both pictures (if it is Chris and Julie at the volcano). From the relative position of their butts is seems that they are standing on at the same level, and are just about the same distance from the camera. The person on the right is a full head taller than the one on the left. I know it doesn't make sense for Scout and Chris to be here, and the only explanation I can think of is that the person on the LEFT is Julie or Twila, even though it does look like Scout. With the blanket or poncho draped, it could be anyone of the three, even Eliza for that matter (Not saying that it's Eliza, though). And with that tee shirt, well, best guess would be Twila. And as to the posture, it is a very weak indication for Scout. OK, 60 year old ladies might be hunched over, but so might anyone in a cold wind (they are dressed warmly presumably because they are cold).
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12-06-04, 10:02 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: Look at the Volcano shot carefully" |
Me too. I see that, Julie is nailed (heh heh) as the right hand figure. Left is chris, with beard and just hair or buff, His shorts, his shirt, his legs?, He is either lower or farther away, the parallax makes him shorter (as you, BR, etc.- and not me till now, I give, ya'll are right - said).So Julie wins RC and takes Chris. And is this not predictable? Is this not a flash of blinding logic? Julies forte so far, as she claims, is sex, and male manipulation. Her quote when sunning on the beach, somthing like about "if it (flashing) gets me ahead, then OK". Taking Chirs if she wins is so logical given her past (on Survivor). Get Chris, a male and a influential part of the Chris/eliza controlling bloc, alone, and try to work on him, her subtext might be sex, but the main force of the persuasion will be simple, guiless, persuasion. Her last, best, desparate tactic. Parallels her work on Leane (except she's female, so no subtext) to survive the merge. VS, her editing makes more sense now, yes?
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12-06-04, 11:14 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: Look at the Volcano shot carefully" |
Actually I thought it was Chris and I see now it can't be 3 people. However if you look at the cap and look at pictures of Chris and Julie wearing the hat. Julie has to adjust the hat and a bit sticks out where it is made smaller in the back. This is evident in the volcano shot and suggests that it's Julie not Chris. Julie and someone .... either Scout or Eliza. If it's either, Julie has won reward
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12-06-04, 11:34 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: Look at the Volcano shot carefully" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-04 AT 11:35 PM (EST)It appears to be due to the night light shot. Changes colors. and the glare in night vision of the volcano/lantern light. The red hat Julie is wearing appears white or light colored due to this effect. Also, his beard is barely visible. Better pictures at MESS. And comparison campsite night shots of the shorts, hat, shirts, verify the color changing effect. I goes against what I would have thought, but check it out. Esp Garbo and AK Ives. You don't have to go thru all the pages, start two or three from end. Nice little video clip of the volcano scene if you haven't seen it yet. Remember, Tweety always came out on top, Cat. Nice festive sig.
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12-08-04, 06:41 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: Look at the Volcano shot carefully" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-08-04 AT 09:18 PM (EST)I don't know how to bring in the picture (posted by Looney Lurker) at Mess Here is one of the photos over there that is pretty clear ... but I do not see three people ... and KB ... it sure does look like Scout to me (on the left). 
To help us determine who is indeed on the left, I am bringing over a few more photos from CBS: 
Note the length and fit of Scout's shorts. To me, the shorts in the volcano shot are too baggy to be the same orange shorts Scout is wearing. However, the hair color of the person at the volcano is more consistent with Scout than Twila. Note Twila's hair color, long yellow T-shirt and how she is wearing her hair.
Here is a photo of Chris from behind. Note how the color of his hair and how he is wearing it under the buff.
Here's another photo of Chris -- note the fit and length of his shorts.
Still look at the length of his shorts and his hair.
Here's a shot of Twila from behind. Note the length of her shirt.
In this photo note the color and length of Twila's hair.
In my opinion, the photo of the person in the volcano shot is either Scout or Chris. And now I am leaning toward Chris. The person is clearly wearing a buff and we can see that Scout likes to wear her own baseball cap. Chris cannot wear his cap because he gave it to Julie to wear. Also, the length of the baggy shorts looks more like Chris than Scout.  Scarlett
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12-06-04, 05:04 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Twila's Tee-Shirt" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-04 AT 05:16 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 12-06-04 AT 05:14 PM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 12-06-04 AT 05:06 PM (EST) Krautboy and CAT, you both make valid deductions. I also wanted to throw something else into the mix....although at this point I may be leaning toward it being Scout. But, for the same reason that KB has noted, I think that the one on the left may be Chris. Night vision shots tend to distort the color. I point to the hat that the person on the right is wearing. I think that that person is Julie wearing Chris' hat. The hat in the night looks as though in the back it may be light colored. Yet, in the day light, the back of Chris' hat is indeed a deep red. For that reason, I think that the long shirt hanging down may be Chris' red tee.....
Also, if you look closely I think that there is a little vee shaped indentation in the hem of the shorts, just as Chris' shorts have here: 
Also, in the pic at the volcano, I think that Chris could still have his ponytail tucked up as he has here at the challenge. I also think that he is wearing a buff tied in the back on his head: 
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12-06-04, 06:12 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Twila's Tee-Shirt" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-04 AT 06:22 PM (EST)"Sylvester, you make a good point about the posture, but Twila's long tee-shirt is the sticking point for me..." KB, please call me cat! Twila's T-shirt is longer than that shirt, and yellow. It's difficult to find photos of Twila in shorts, as she hasn't worn them since the first few weeks, but here is a shot of Twila in the only shorts she's ever worn: 
Here's a shot of Eliza's only shorts: 
Here are Chris's only shorts, note they are navy blue, which would show dark on the nightvision photo like the blankets do: 
Here is a shot of Scout's orange shorts, note her posture here: 
Lastly, here is a pic of Scout's blue denim shirt. She often wears it tied at her waist, but look at the length here when she doesn't: 
Edited to add a blow-up of the bottom of the person on the left, which shows the COLORS of the shirt and shorts: 
And to say, FlowerPower, check your inbox! Call me Cat!
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12-06-04, 03:09 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Julie at the volcano" |
This is a recycled shot. Notice the belts with large rings about their waists. These were the two "sacrificial lambs" before they were strung up on the rope through the rings. This was Reward challenge from a couple of eps back.
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12-06-04, 12:27 PM (EST)
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45. "What is this vidcap from?" |
I'm looking at another vidcap that seems out of place.This pic of Julie and Eliza doesn't fit with either challenge. Both have their buffs around their midriffs, and Julie's hair/hat are the same as the IC, but she is not wearing her yellow T here:
Here is Julie at the RC, notice the hair: 
Here are pics of Eliza and Julie at the IC: 
The top pic looks like a challenge pic, the way they're lined up and wearing buffs. I can't place it as a recycled pic, although maybe I'm missing something. Any ideas? Call me Cat!
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12-06-04, 03:11 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: What is this vidcap from?" |
This is recycle from the sacrificial lambs reward challenge. Notice belts with large rings around their waists? The rope was passed through these rings.
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12-08-04, 03:50 PM (EST)
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67. "Which volcano are they visiting?" |
I've been doing a little research on Vanuatu, to try to figure out how far the RC winner/s have to go to visit a volcano.Mt. Yasur is on the island of Tanna (sp), and I'm trying to remember if that's the same island the survivors are on. I believe it is but can't find the thread at Sucks where I read about it. Anybody help with that? Here is a pic of Mt. Yasur: 
Here yet again is the volcano pic: 
I'm wondering because info that I can find says that it's a fairly easy walk to the lava pools after a drive up the mountain. I had thought at first they might visit Ambryn, a more violent volcano and a much more difficult climb from what I can tell. That in and of itself may rule Scout out as the left person. The lava pool pics looks similar to me, I'm wondering if they go to Mt. Yasur. Call me Cat!
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12-08-04, 03:58 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: Which volcano are they visiting?" |
Does anyone know if there will be an added bonus for the reward, i.e. food? Just wondering.
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12-09-04, 02:09 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Which volcano are they visiting?" |
I was also wondering if they may be sleeping over somewhere near the volcano??????
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