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130. "RE: The Marathon Dec 6th - Statisti..."
Thanks Grit, I watch on Hulu, the next day. I am all up to date now. I agree Jbug, probably Allison was talking about next episode week. If she meant only seven actual days between marathon and final weigh in, John obviously won. He has at least 25 lbs on Antone.

John and Antone lost about the same over the first month home. If the next month goes similarly John is an easy winner. By Grits stats I am thinking John could likely end up at 47% and no one could catch him.

The 100 K is the next bet and the hard prediction. I am thinking Vinny, Jessica, Jen, Joe and Sunny are in the mix. I agree, Ramon is all talk, although he ran the marathon suprisingly well. Wish they weighed him. That would be very predictive.

I hope whoever wins the 100 K also beats Ramon's weight, because then Ramon won't feel bad for losing to John for the 250 and losing out on the 100 K by winning the marathon. Ramon will sleep better if he knows he would have lost either way, and he did get 25 K. That is the best he could have done, most likely.

I love John's love for his wife and family. But, yeah, he is going to have to make some changes to avoid gaining it back. I heard Bob say once that the people who are unemployed the last month tend to win, because they can focus on their weight loss. For 250 K I would hope my wife and kids would help out a whole lot. It is only one more month for one heck of a check. John could have worded it better, more PC, but he needs to have his wife cover for him if he intends to win.

I thought this has been a great season. The contestants were friendly, the gameplay did not seem to take away from the show, makeover week could have been better, but Becky at least came off looking both great and improved. The trainers did reasonably well. Bob rocked. Dolvett is likeable, had decent results. Anna is leaving, and she partially redeemed herself after Bonnie got off her team and started dragging down Dolvett's team. Season 11 was better in my mind. But it the first season I watched, also.

I think there are three basic strategies or paths to choose from:

1) gameplayer strategy number one: vote off the contestants who present the greatest threat. Don't lose too much weight when you have immunity so the next week you have greater chances of staying above the line, make alliances, etc.

2) gameplayer strategy number two, for poor contestants or Bonnie types: vote off the worst players (as opposed to the best players) whenever you can, lose as much weight as you can, win any prizes you can. Understand that you will not win the big prizes ahead of time. The reason to vote off other poor contestants, such as Vinny or Ramon as opposed to John, Antone, Sunny, Jen, etc. is because poor players present no threat. No one cares to vote off the Bonnies because they will fall by the wayside sooner or later. With that in mind, it is always better for poor players who fall below the yellow line to be matched up against Jen or Joe or threatening players. Gameplay then dictates that the other players will vote off the bigger threats. So, the poor player strategy, is to make sure she does not fall below the yellow line with a Vinny or a Ramon. Consequently poor players need to vote off other poor players. They need to isolate themselves as the least threatening. Other poor players are their competition for this role.

Strategy number three: John's style. Skip alliances altogether. Vote however you feel. Make sure you lose as much weight as possible every week. Never fall below the yellow line. Advantage to this strategy is that at the end of the game, when you are measured by total weight loss, you have a 6% head start over the gameplayers and the contestants who could not keep up.

Strategy number four - for Sunny types, or better than average players. Lose what you can, as you are able. Follow Grits stats weekly. If you are 6% behind towards the end, bail on the 250 K and try for the 100 K.

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 New Season 9/20/2011   jbug     09-20-11       
   RE: New Season 9/20/2011   zookeepertx     09-20-11     1  
   RE: New Season 9/20/2011   samboohoo     09-21-11     2  
     RE: New Season 9/20/2011   jbug     09-21-11     3  
   RE: New Season 9/20/2011   nap_time     09-21-11     4  
   Statistics   grit     09-21-11     5  
     RE: Statistics   nap_time     09-23-11     8  
   RE: New Season 9/20/2011   Tummy     09-22-11     6  
     RE: New Season 9/20/2011   jbug     09-22-11     7  
     RE: New Season 9/20/2011   nap_time     09-23-11     9  
   RE: New Season 9/20/2011   taffnic     09-23-11     10  
   Episode 2: 9/27/11   jbug     09-28-11     11  
     RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11   Flowerpower     09-28-11     12  
     RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11 Statistics   grit     09-28-11     13  
         RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11 Statistics   jbug     09-29-11     14  
             RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11 Statistics   nap_time     09-29-11     15  
                 RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11 Statistics   jbug     09-29-11     16  
     RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11   nap_time     09-29-11     17  
         RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11   samboohoo     09-30-11     18  
         which is which?   jbug     10-05-11     24  
             RE: which is which?   nap_time     10-05-11     25  
                 RE: which is which?   jbug     10-05-11     26  
                     RE: which is which?   nap_time     10-07-11     30  
     RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11   samboohoo     09-30-11     19  
         RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11   jbug     09-30-11     20  
     RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11   featherfish81     10-01-11     21  
         RE: Episode 2: 9/27/11   Starshine     10-05-11     27  
   10/4 episode   cahaya     10-04-11     22  
     RE: 10/4 episode   jbug     10-05-11     23  
         RE: 10/4 episode Statistics   grit     10-05-11     28  
             RE: 10/4 episode Statistics   featherfish81     10-07-11     29  
                 RE: 10/4 episode Statistics   grit     10-07-11     34  
                     RE: 10/4 episode Statistics   jbug     10-07-11     36  
                         RE: 10/4 episode Statistics   featherfish81     10-07-11     38  
                             RE: 10/4 episode Statistics   jbug     10-07-11     39  
             RE: 10/4 episode Statistics   samboohoo     10-07-11     31  
         Question   samboohoo     10-07-11     32  
             RE: Question   jbug     10-07-11     33  
                 RE: Question   stlouisfan76     10-07-11     35  
                     RE: Question   jbug     10-07-11     37  
   10/11 Episode   jbug     10-12-11     40  
     RE: 10/11 Episode   grit     10-12-11     41  
         RE: 10/11 Episode   Golden3     10-12-11     42  
             RE: 10/11 Episode   jbug     10-12-11     43  
             RE: 10/11 Episode   grit     10-12-11     44  
     RE: 10/11 Episode   samboohoo     10-13-11     45  
   10/18/11 Episode   samboohoo     10-19-11     46  
     RE: 10/18/11 Episode   jbug     10-19-11     47  
         RE: 10/18/11 Episode   samboohoo     10-19-11     48  
     RE: 10/18/11 Episode   susang     10-19-11     49  
     RE: 10/18/11 Episode   Starshine     10-19-11     50  
     RE: 10/18/11 Episode statistics   grit     10-19-11     51  
     RE: 10/18/11 Episode   skeetergirl87     10-21-11     52  
         RE: 10/18/11 Episode   jbug     10-21-11     53  
     RE: 10/18/11 Episode   nap_time     10-24-11     57  
         RE: 10/18/11 Episode   agman     10-24-11     58  
     RE: 10/18/11 Episode   udg     11-03-11     70  
   RE: New Season 9/20/2011   agman     10-23-11     54  
     RE: New Season 9/20/2011   jbug     10-23-11     55  
         RE: New Season 9/20/2011   agman     10-24-11     56  
   10/25 Episode   grit     10-26-11     59  
     Stat!   jbug     10-26-11     60  
     RE: 10/25 Episode   proserpine     10-27-11     61  
         Welcome!   jbug     10-28-11     63  
             RE: Welcome!   JessicaRN     10-28-11     64  
     RE: 10/25 Episode   proserpine     10-27-11     62  
     RE: 10/25 Episode   featherfish81     10-28-11     65  
   11/1/11 Episode   samboohoo     11-02-11     66  
     RE: 11/1/11 Episode   nap_time     11-02-11     67  
     RE: 11/1/11 Episode   jbug     11-02-11     68  
     RE: 11/1/11 Episode   grit     11-02-11     69  
         RE: 11/1/11 Episode   samboohoo     11-03-11     71  
         RE: 11/1/11 Episode   jbug     11-03-11     72  
             RE: 11/1/11 Episode   proserpine     11-06-11     75  
                 RE: 11/1/11 Episode   featherfish81     11-07-11     76  
     RE: 11/1/11 Episode   featherfish81     11-04-11     73  
         RE: 11/1/11 Episode   Starshine     11-04-11     74  
   RE: New Season 9/20/2011   Tummy     11-09-11     77  
     RE: New Season 9/20/2011   jbug     11-09-11     78  
         RE: New Season 9/20/2011   Tummy     11-09-11     79  
             RE: New Season 9/20/2011   jbug     11-09-11     80  
     11/8/2011 Episode - Statistics   grit     11-09-11     81  
         RE: 11/8/2011 Episode - Statistics   proserpine     11-15-11     85  
   Bye Bye Anna   Tummy     11-14-11     82  
     RE: Bye Bye Anna   samboohoo     11-15-11     83  
         RE: Bye Bye Anna   jbug     11-15-11     84  
             RE: Bye Bye Anna   proserpine     11-15-11     86  
                 RE: Bye Bye Anna   jbug     11-15-11     87  
   11/15/11 Episode   grit     11-16-11     88  
     RE: 11/15/11 Episode   samboohoo     11-16-11     89  
     RE: 11/15/11 Episode   jbug     11-16-11     90  
         RE: 11/15/11 Episode   jbug     11-16-11     91  
             RE: 11/15/11 Episode   udg     11-17-11     93  
         RE: 11/15/11 Episode   grit     11-16-11     92  
             RE: 11/15/11 Episode   proserpine     11-21-11     94  
     RE: 11/15/11 Episode   featherfish81     11-21-11     95  
   11/22 Episode   samboohoo     11-23-11     96  
     RE: 11/22 Episode   jbug     11-23-11     97  
         RE: 11/22 Episode   samboohoo     11-23-11     98  
             RE: 11/22 Episode   jbug     11-23-11     99  
     Swoop! 11/22 Statistics   grit     11-23-11     100  
         RE: Swoop! 11/22 Statistics   proserpine     11-26-11     101  
             RE: Swoop! 11/22 Statistics   jbug     11-26-11     102  
                 RE: Swoop! 11/22 Statistics   proserpine     11-29-11     103  
   11/29 MakeOver Week   jbug     11-30-11     104  
     RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week   samboohoo     11-30-11     105  
     RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week Statistics   grit     11-30-11     106  
         RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week Statistics   samboohoo     12-01-11     107  
         RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week Statistics   featherfish81     12-02-11     109  
         RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week Statistics   proserpine     12-05-11     117  
             RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week Statistics   grit     12-06-11     118  
                 RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week Statistics   Flowerpower     12-09-11     132  
     RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week   proserpine     12-01-11     108  
     RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week   nap_time     12-02-11     110  
         RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week   jbug     12-02-11     112  
             RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week   nap_time     12-05-11     114  
                 RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week   jbug     12-05-11     115  
                 RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week   proserpine     12-05-11     116  
                     RE: 11/29 MakeOver Week   nap_time     12-07-11     122  
                 WAY TO GO!!!!   Flowerpower     12-09-11     133  
                     RE: WAY TO GO!!!!   nap_time     12-09-11     134  
                         RE: WAY TO GO!!!!   Flowerpower     12-10-11     135  
   RE: New Season 9/20/2011   LaddyBugg29     12-02-11     111  
     RE: New Season 9/20/2011   featherfish81     12-03-11     113  
   The Marathon Dec 6th   jbug     12-07-11     119  
     RE: The Marathon Dec 6th   Tummy     12-07-11     120  
         RE: The Marathon Dec 6th   jbug     12-07-11     121  
             RE: The Marathon Dec 6th   Flowerpower     12-11-11     136  
     RE: The Marathon Dec 6th   nap_time     12-07-11     123  
         RE: The Marathon Dec 6th   jbug     12-07-11     124  
         RE: The Marathon Dec 6th   Tummy     12-07-11     125  
             RE: The Marathon Dec 6th   samboohoo     12-08-11     127  
         RE: The Marathon Dec 6th   jbug     12-08-11     131  
     RE: The Marathon Dec 6th - Statisti...   grit     12-07-11     126  
         RE: The Marathon Dec 6th - Statisti...   samboohoo     12-08-11     128  
             RE: The Marathon Dec 6th - Statisti...   jbug     12-08-11     129  
                 RE: The Marathon Dec 6th - Statisti...   proserpine     12-08-11     130  
     Allison's Comment   samboohoo     12-12-11     137  
   Marathon   samboohoo     12-12-11     138  
     RE: Marathon   jbug     12-12-11     139  
   Finale?   LeftPinky     12-13-11     140  
     RE: Finale?   jbug     12-13-11     141  
         RE: Finale?   JessicaRN     12-14-11     142  
             RE: Finale?   jbug     12-14-11     143  
     RE: Finale?   samboohoo     12-14-11     144  
         RE: Finale?   jbug     12-14-11     146  
             RE: Finale?   samboohoo     12-14-11     148  
     Finale statistics   grit     12-14-11     145  
         RE: Finale statistics   jbug     12-14-11     147  
     RE: Finale?   udg     12-14-11     149  
         RE: Finale?   samboohoo     12-15-11     150  
             RE: Finale?   proserpine     12-15-11     151  
         RE: Finale?   featherfish81     12-15-11     152  

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