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"Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS"
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"Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
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VOICE OVER VO: Survivor Thursday, with good old boy Bubba gone, can Rory survive the all woman tribe?
Rory: I will not slave around camp if I do not have a shot of making it through Tribal Council.
VO: And, on the other side of the island, can Julie's sex appeal sway the male dominated alliance?
Julie: I like to flirt, I could flirt all day long.
Chris: Somebody like that could sweet talk their way into the Finale Five.
VO: Plus, the tribes get wet and wild...
JP: It's time to get dirty.
VO: ...to win immunity, CBS, Thursday.
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67. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
Quite a bit as in number of shots or quite a bit as in the amount of her body? ;)
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5. "Immunity Challenge..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-15-04 AT 03:20 PM (EST)The IC looks to be a water challenge. Looks like we have some type of swimming from the platform to the boats in the bottom left hand corner of the pics below. Then the boats would race to something on the beach or in the water. Looks like both boats are facing the same direction which looks strange!
Then diving for the paddles?
ETA: What the heck are they retrieving here?
I just can't see Yasur winning this one!  
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10-15-04, 03:26 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Immunity Challenge..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-15-04 AT 03:28 PM (EST)To me this looks like a water obstacle course. The direction the survivors are going as they attempt to climb onto the platform tells me that they are arriving from the boats, perhaps. Maybe they start on the shore in the catamarans and paddle to the rope just beyond the platform, jump off of the boats and use the rope to guide their way to the platforms. Climb up on the platforms then climb over the wall on the platforms and then jump back into the water, again using the ropes to guide them through the water obstacle course. Perhaps this is a relay of some kind and they each have to complete the entire course, one at a time??? Just early speculation... ETA: Looking at the positions of the two catamarans there and seeing the rope that leads to them, perhaps they are just anchored there and the boats are one obstacle that they have to scale over to continue on their way through the course....perhaps the boats are fixed and stationary. 
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10-15-04, 03:45 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Immunity Challenge..." |
Still chewing on the water challenge...it looks like there is some kind of cylindrical cannister that is threaded through the rope. Perhaps the survivors have to move this cannister via the rope through the entire length of the water obstacle course...
AS for the pig challenge, it looks as if only one member of each tribe competes at a time. Here we have Jk and Rory:
Here is Chad:
And here is Lisa, pig in hand, and is she wearing Ami's bathing suit???
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10-15-04, 04:37 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Immunity Challenge..." |
Doesn't that look like one very happy pig ... he's just leaning back there with a big a smile on his face.
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33. "RE: Immunity Challenge..." |
It just goes to show you that one minute you might think your in pig heaven, and the next minute ...
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66. "RE: Immunity Challenge..." |
Scurvy, ROFL!! I almost spit out my drink. Thanks for the smile!
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18. "RE: Immunity Challenge..." |
The ropes in the water challenge start in the water somewhere to the left of each catamaran, they go under the left support bar of the outrigger, over the body/canoe, under the rightside innermost support bar of the outrigger, over the rightside outermost support bar, back into the water over to the platform, across the lower portion of the platform, threaded behind the lowest cross bar of the verticle part of the platform, also behind the next higher cross bar, in front of the 3rd from the bottom crossbar, then over the top and back into the water.It appears they have to pull the hollowed out cylinder along the rope starting before the catamarans and finishing somewhere beyond the platform.
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35. "Dear Vols..." |
>Good catch Dawg
...please refrain from referring to anyone as "Dawg" or SDawg", it brings back way too many bad memories for ALOT of people on this board...I'm sure of it.
No offense Scurvy, you just picked a really bad screen name for this board.
So don't take the simple fact that I think Shakes is godlike to mean that I think he isn't an ass. -Samiam 10/12/04
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55. "RE: Dear Vols..." |
G'evenin Vols and forehead, thanks for your welcomings (hmm, that might not be word, but I think you understand my meaning)!
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10-15-04, 07:09 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Immunity Challenge..." |
I agree that the water shots in 20 look like cylinders that need to be moved through the rope. Then pics 22 and 23 look like the cylinders have been removed from the ropes, unless these are different objects. The ropes are interesting. They look like anchors and are on the outside of the rafts as well as within the rafts. So maybe they have to travel the distance of the ropes with an object. I just cant figure out where the objects end up because Chris (and I think that is Chris too), does not appear to have an object. What is up with Lisa's bathing suit top and bottom changing to blue? 
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9. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
I find it interesting Chris' quote Somebody like that could sweet talk their way into the Finale Five. in reference to Julie and her sex appeal. Why would he stop at 5, why couldn't someone like her make it to the final 2? This is proof once again that Chris has a solid plan for his final 4 and he won't let even a cute chick steer him in any other direction.I also think this episode is screaming out for Julie boot, but having a hard time reconciling the imbalance of strength between the 2 tribes. The VO for the promo would have us believe that the pig challenge is for immunity, but the Vanuatu paper had previously reported that the Pig Chase challenge was to be on July 10th, plus the winners got to keep a pig to eat which would all seem like it would have to be the RC. That makes the water challenge the IC and how could Yasur with 5 women and flab man beat Lopevi in the water (unless they throw the challenge because the power at Lopevi see Julie as too big a threat that if she sticks around might get her claws into young John or Chad). In which case with a thrown immunity challenge and a Julie boot in E6 I could see Anger and Tears in E7. 
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61. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
Lisa also has six children, which gives her additional experience at tackling slippery animals
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59. "John K or Julie next on Lopevi?" |
I think John K is most likely the boot just before the merge or more likely right after the merge. We keep seeing him talk about what a good power position he will be in if he can make it to the merge to go all the way. I can recall three instances seeing him talk about this (and he doesn't talk much!) which to me looks like a setup for the irony of him having made the merge and being the first one booted, which he is a likely candidate for. Also, a lot of people are assuming Julie is the last one to go before the jury because she was the one ommitted from Snewser's memo and then added. Maybe it was an oversight at first? I don't think we should look at her as a guaranteed last pre-jury member because she was added after the fact which a lot of people are doing. Of the three, I see John K as the last likely boot of the three for this episode. With Bubba gone, the men have to consider going into the merge shorthanded. They are right now down 7-5 and if they boot John K, they will be down 7-4. This makes absolutely no sense. As much as John K was on the outside of the alliance, he is still a man, and would most likely be kept around as a 5th wheel. It seems more likely with the reference of a tie in the "Hog Tied" title, that a tie will ensue over at Yasur. Ami is going to vote for Rory regardless of his speech. Losing two challenges back to back, Eliza is going to vote with Rory against one of the women. LeeAnn seemed pretty adhement that she didn't feel Rory and Bubba were part of their tribe. Scout would most likely vote with LeeAnn and Ami, and Lisa (to form a tie) would have to vote with Rory and Eliza. The animosity between Eliza and Lisa seems to have gone away. I believe when Eliza was talking about not wanting to boot Rory/Travis Ami, Scout and Lisa were around which may mean she wished to target LeeAnn again, which could bring about a LeeAnn/Bubba tie and Lisa getting the boot via the purple rock. Or in the misdirection, the person praying for a sign would have been the tie vote, but the sign IS the purple rock, and switches sides. Heck, there may even be so much confusion on Yasur that we have a 3way tie.
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81. "RE: John K or Julie next on Lopevi?" |
Cowboy I have to tend to agree with your logic.. john K and julie are expendable if lopevi loses i.c. But one thing to keep in mind is lopevi has picked up another 1/2 man when they got Twilla. The thought of lopevi throwing a I.C challenge to save Rory is not a option. The chief Sarge, has the men he wants,a half man he can use(she is much happier there)and a great piece of eye candy everyone can enjoy. If there is 2 or 3 weeks before the merge and Lopevi kicks butt on at least all the I.C challenges.......do the math...New Lopevi 6... New Yasur 3 or 4.Then all they have to do is pagon.
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10-19-04, 07:42 PM (EST)
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116. "RE: John K or Julie next on Lopevi?" |
I thought Julie was never on the first 8 boot list and then after that i think she has huge Darrah editing i really think this is weere the sopilers are a little confusing where and when does Julie get the boot i am starting to think that the supposed final nine are wrong and if they are right this will be the worst and most boring survivor ever!
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10-15-04, 06:10 PM (EST)
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31. "Coupla things..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-15-04 AT 06:18 PM (EST)This arrival shot:
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>-31 If the pig challenge is for reward, it looks like Rory makes the speech before/after RC. ETA: I guess before, otherwise they'd all look filthy. Which means the Cap 3 arrival shot is for IC. Unless it was from last night's IC, can anyone check? Edited again to add: No evidence of a ghost tribe at the pig challenge, thankfully. Guess Miss Dolly's gone for good. 
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10-15-04, 09:08 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Coupla things..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-15-04 AT 09:17 PM (EST)Good catch, Vols! I noticed the blue suit as well...I can tell you that's definately a different suit that Lisa is wearing, disregarding the lighting. I agree, the Rory speech is definately either pre or post this challenge. If I had to guess, I'd say it's pre challenge as they get so, so filthy dirty, you know they are all coming back, going for a dip in the ocean, and then perhaps changing their clothing and fixing their hair. I know this does not make sense, but to me, the first shot that BR posted of the survivors coming to a challenge looks as though perhaps it's the first time the other tribe is seeing them...arriving at the RC. Look at Lisa's bathing suit here, it's her old one, I can tell by looking at the straps, they are just over the shoulder and attach on the back of her top. The blue suit that she is wearing in/around the Rory speech and to the pig challenge is aqua blue with halter straps (for you guys that may not know what halter straps are, they are straps that attach around to the back of your neck...they do not attach at all to the back part of your bathing suit, they attach to each other at the nape of your neck.) In the pics of Ami around the Rory speech, she does not have her blue bathing suit on under her yellowish top...I can tell as she has no straps coming up to attach behind her neck...FWIW
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10-15-04, 09:45 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Coupla things..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-15-04 AT 09:52 PM (EST)To my best memory (and we all know how that is) we were going by the dates from the Vanuatu Press. However, the pig challenge would be a little bit more even for both tribes than the water challenge...IMHO! ETA: You would think I would have this memorized by now! Mele Cascades was closed for a 'private' function to film a survivors challenge 'reward' on Thursday 8th. The winning contestants had a full-on meal supplied to them near the waterfall in which they were swimming with nobody to bother them. The next challenge is being stage today in a pig pen. Presumably contestants have to find something racing around in a dirty smelly pig pen with 'ferocious' wild pigs in order to win a live pig to eat This is what I was referencing and I think that it is incorrect. Wasn't the reward last episode at the Mele Cascades? I don't think we know which challenge is the RC and IC. Am I missing something?
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10-15-04, 10:11 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Coupla things..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-15-04 AT 10:17 PM (EST)Yes, great picture for comparison, Vols! Thanks! You can see the definite differences in their straps. Lisa's are going over the shoulder and attaching to the back of her suit, while the halter style that Ami is wearing has the straps that go up and tie or attach together at the nape of the neck. So, we are speculating then that the Rory "I'm not gonna slave around camp if I'm not gonna make it through the next tribal council" speech is the very next morning after they returned the night before from TC and before they go off to the RC at the pigpen....sounds good to me! With them putting their hands together and solidifying their commitment to their tribe, I'd say that they indeed rectify with Rory. I think they will placate him and reassure him then all make the vow for team unity before going to the RC.
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10-16-04, 09:07 AM (EST)
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65. "RE: Coupla things..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-16-04 AT 09:10 AM (EST)Personally, I think that this is a different suit that Lisa is wearing, but I will concede that possibly it could be a reversible suit and this is the reverse side. Anyway, I don't really think that it matters to spoiling the show. We know she's wearing a different color suit before and during the pig challenge! LOL As for reading in the CBS misdirection....D'oh....guess that we are solid on which is RC and which is IC now! In one of my earlier posts I speculated that the only one seen catching a pig was Lisa, as I do think she'll have experience at this. But I changed my mind(there's a surprise!). After reviewing the vidcaps again, I think that Chad catches one too!:
I think Chad has one in the lower pic! Look right under his chin, you can see the little piggie's hind end, and his little back right leg...
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10-16-04, 06:06 PM (EST)
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69. "Immunity Challenge Winner?" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-16-04 AT 06:11 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 10-16-04 AT 06:10 PM (EST) I noticed a few things while watching the video of the preview. I believe Yasur might win the reward challenge, and here's why I think that: 1) Lopevi's sunbathing group. Look at all the clean laundry hanging in the background. My hunch is that these shots are AFTER the muddy reward challenge, and everyone had to bathe the mud off their bodies and off their clothes. 
2) We have a preview shot of Julie coming out of the ocean with the mask on. If you look closely, you will also see the hawaiian sling next to Julie's nekkid body on the beach. I highlighted that part of this picture: 
If Lopevi won a pig (the reward listed by the VD), why do they need to fish? 3) The only Lopevi member not shown in the group shot is Twila. Twila seems to me to be the most likely food preparer on new Lopevi. She learned from Dah, and she is the oldest female. Where is Twila? My guess would be off cooking dinner. If they had won a pig to eat, I would bet the men would be involved digging a bbq pit or something. Just my .02
(This post was copied from my original post in the Web Promo thread as suggested by Emydi, & edited to add credit for the group photo of course goes to Mess)
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72. "RE: minor detail... suit color." |
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>Here Lisa has her hair down,
>is smiling, has on a
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>strapped bathing suit. The
>Tribe walking in. I
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>the RC here.
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>Here Lisa has long hair where
>she is catching the pig,
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>Lisa has braids here with a
>headband buff, a halter type
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>a challenge.
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>Here Lisa still has braids, a
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>I think this is IC
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>hi peeps... been lurking around these halls for a while... used to post under another name (don't even remember which!). anyway, am living abroad now and am loving staying up on survivor via the internet. thanks for all the good stuff you throw out! that said... i had to jump in here to quibble with a minor detail. i definitely think lisa is just wearing her same swimsuit, which is reversable. the first pic here she is definitely wearing said suit under her buff. in the pig pic i think it's just the angle of the pic and how her shoulders are, but it's not halter style like ami's suit (the straps are much skinnier on lisa's suit). i think she reversed the suit for the first time here because she figured she'd be getting dirty and didn't want the lighter green side to be "soiled" looking. in the next pic i am convinced that she's just wearing a tank top... and not ami's suit. ami doesn't seem too keen on lisa... so i don't know why she would lend her suit to lisa? again, just a minor detail... but i wanted to throw my 2cents in here. hope to post more here and there in the future! thanks.
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76. "RE: minor detail... suit color." |
>I do not see any clothing
>hanging in the back of
>the Lopevi camp but they
>are definitely relaxed. The
>sling being in the picture
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>not just getting back from
>anywhere, as Julie would have
>taken some time trying to
>use it. Again, I
>sense this is just one
>of those "day in the
>life" shots of Lopevi being
>bored and relaxing, showcased mostly
>to show the boody shot
>and is probably not related
>to a challenge 
 I don't have a really good photo editing program, but I did try to blow up this pic a bit, and drew an arrow to show the laundry hanging on the line. Of course it doesn't automatically mean it's laundry from the mud challenge, but the original pic also shows wet clothing laying on the beach among the survivors, looks like JK's red buff is near his head, Chris's navy shorts look wet and laying above that. When I'm studying vidcaps, I often set a pic as background on my PC, to automatically blow it up to show small details. The laundry is really evident this way. Great analysis everyone! Sylvester (just call me CAT)
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10-18-04, 02:22 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: Immunity Challenge Winner?" |
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>>Here Lisa still has braids, a
>>headband buff, a halter type
>>swim suit and is looking
>>very ragged and sad.
>>I think this is IC
>>and they lost.
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>Peachezz, this shot of Lisa is
>taken during the Rory speech,
>when Yasur is all standing
>around eating while Rory talks
>about being a slave.
>If you watch the TV
>promo you can tell this
>is from that moment.
>I think Lisa looks ragged
>because she just got up,
>as they all do.
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>Also from the promo, since it
>shows more of Lisa, you
>can tell she's wearing her
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OK. I can go along with that. I'll try to make up a different story now. LOL. Also, I'm wondering what she is thinking if she is listening to Rory. If it was me, I'd be thinking the gals got along without you last week, what makes you think we can't get along without you now.
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10-18-04, 07:03 PM (EST)
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82. "RE: Immunity Challenge Winner?" |
Can't believe that the beach scene is after a challenge. For the fact that during 1ST previews cbs interviews Chad,and that seems to be associated with that beach scene...and Chad seems pretty darn happy(not like he just lost a challenge). Most likely first scene from first day as New Lopevi. And there is no way Lopevi will throw any cahllenges,Sarge has the men he wants a half man with Twilla and A GREAT piece of eye candy.Play to win,win,win, feast on pig Party hardy and pagon the remaining yasurs in 2 or 3 weeks.
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89. "RE: Did I fall asleep and miss something?" |
Oops. I'm very sorry Cat. My apologies.
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86. "Well.." |
From the press release we have this:A piglet-herding competition offers a feast for the winning tribe, but one tribe's chance of victory might be hurt by one person's fear of pigs. Where did it come from that they win a pig? I don't think the winner of the RC will win the pig but will win a feast/whole meal! Here is the spoiler from The Vanuatu Press that some people refer to: July 10 - A cute female contestant has been voted off the island. Mele Cascades was closed for a 'private' function to film a survivors challenge 'reward' on Thursday 8th. The winning contestants had a full-on meal supplied to them near the waterfall in which they were swimming with nobody to bother them. The next challenge is being stage today in a pig pen. Presumably contestants have to find something racing around in a dirty smelly pig pen with 'ferocious' wild pigs in order to win a live pig to eat - the last time a pig was killed on Survivors it caused an uproar with animal rights groups. Wonder if they got some film footage of the magnitude 5.7 earthquake that was centered close to Lelepa and Moso, where Survivors are filming on Thursday morning?? July 12 - Will the next challenge be on Ambrym? A helicopter departed this morning for the island of Ambrym; the location of Vanuatu's most spectacular, and active volcano. Two pilots on board; one local and one from the survivor team being shown the way? - stay tuned........
Now, I don't believe this article to be 100% accurate however, I do think the events that they mention will happen. For instance, it mentions a full-on meal, the pig challenge, and the earthquake. We have yet to see the "full-on" meal and I think this is the feast they are referencing. Also, the pringles and beer from last week can't be considered a complete meal even though they were at a waterfall swimming! Now, I do think this vid cap of them lying on the beach is after a challenge. I don't know if it is after RC or IC. However, with all the clothes in the back...I think it very well could be after the RC. This pic could be with them exhausted and waiting to be taken to the feast. I don't think they would make them go to a feast with all the mud and pig carp on them!
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10-18-04, 09:39 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: Well.." |
When I referred to a pig as the reward, I was referring to the VD (Vanuatu Daily) article that you also referenced.The part that I don't buy about this is that after reading closely, they are wrong about the challenge. They say that the challenge is for the contestants to find something in the pen with wild pigs! Well, we now know they have to catch a pig. I just don't know if I buy them getting a LIVE pig to eat! why does Julie have the hawaiian sling? I don't know why the hawaiian sling is there. Are you positive that is what it is...I can't tell? Also, the pics of her coming out of the water could be during anytime in this episode! It's Monday night already and I still don't feel confident who wins RC, IC, or who is booted. I am clueless! BTW: I posted this above but could go here as well! The thing about that pic that really gets me is the fact that Sarge is lying down as well...as if exhausted! I don't think this is just a lazy day at Lopevi. Sarge is not the type to just lie down...IMHO!
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10-18-04, 10:37 PM (EST)
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96. "The Nature of it all..." |
Hey Vols,I'm stuck too. I do think RC is the Pig challenge because of the VO's we have gotten. I still can't tell the goal of the challenges, which makes it hard to tell what tribe may win them. Point in fact: 1) Is the RC goal to "catch pigs" and place them somewheere, or is the point to obtain something from the pigs? Which tribe would be more apt to do this? 2) IC Challenge... we have seen the inclusive challenge such as the balance beam, where ALL survivors must complete the challenge to win as a team. We have seen the exclusive challenge in Ep 5, where anyone on the team who could, could dive down to collect the "medallions" for the team. So what is the nature of the IC? Inclusive or exclusive? (and I may not be using those words correctly, but, I'm trying.) My only thought here is from the pics where there is a platform in the water. This suggests to me that ALL survivors must complete the "crossing" to the platform before they could win IC. So...which team is most apt to complete the "crossing" as a whole? Like the balance beam challenge? I hope this helps someone because I'm confused too.
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10-18-04, 10:40 PM (EST)
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97. "RE: Well.." |
It would not surprise me if Rory has a fear of pigs. I believe these pics are from post reward challenge and Lopevie won. And last, but not least, go Lopevi.
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94. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-18-04 AT 11:01 PM (EST)OK, back to the vidcaps in the original message by emydi. I think there is a little bit of spec to be gleaned from a few of these, some are even typical cryptic MB type clues. Maybe. The caps arent all in the real chronological order, so what do we make of that?
BTW thanks for this emydi, I cant record clips or capture the vid caps, so I am indebted to you and all others that take the time to do this. In gratitude, I stole some of your picts for this response. I like to think of as recycling.
Cap 5 might indicate an RC win by Scouts team (Yasur?). Those arms look pretty dirty to me, and Lisas? face, (lowest lower right is an indication of Lisa-ness) or who is that in the lower right corner anyway? Whoever it is looks like they been rasslin pigs (I quote Tom sometimes, and I shouldnt). An indication that this could be post-pig rassle, and a celebratory pinky swear allies for life (or till TC, which ever comes first) thing. Unless its just my monitor, those are muddy arms, and this would indicate a win by scouts team. Cap 4 doesnt really jibe with this unless it was taken at another time (before RC?) because they arent dirty enough and Lisas hair is different from Cap with pig. But you know, cap 5 was obviously posed anyway for the cameraman, (he had to ask them to do the thing with him laying in the sand to get this) so maybe they did it first before (Cap 4, going to RC) and again after the pig chase (Cap 5). I dont know if its reasonable for her to let her hair down or unpig-tail it before wallowing in mud, that doesnt quite make sense to me but Ill just conveniently ignore it. And it occurs to me that if any of you actually knows the answer to this because you have experience in a mud pit - with or without a pig -, well, lets talk. Enough on that.
Cap 6 - scout presented in a seemingly pensive, maybe reflective, maybe prayerful? (shes probably really just wondering how to get pig poop off her feets), could be a MB artifice to show what he wants viewers to believe is her signature mood for this episode. SCOUT IS THINKING ABOUT WHO SHOULD GO, AND IS IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONFLICT OVER HER CHOICES. Lisa and Rory?
Similar to Scouts cap they are shown as thinking along similar lines? Again, who knows (and who cares) what the context of this really is but maybe MB is using it in this sequence to indicate the alliance (hes cunningly emphasizing the bleeding obvious if so).
Ami and her glasses, you dont suppose she is putting up with contacts daily in/out routine in those circumstances do you? Have others in other survivirs done this? How weird if so, I wear gas perms and wouldnt even think of using them in those circumstances. You need some water for the daily routine, and the same bugs in the water can enter thru the eye membranes as thru the mouth/stomach/etc membranes, and till they got fire and water, this would be dangerous (unless you are a boot hard idiot ex-seal, or a idiot witch that not even a lethal bacteria would mess with- i.e. Sue).
Cap 8 - Rorys hustling. He's abegging. Hes a thinking and hes a hoping. Maybe he's the prayer? In a positive seeming mood, could indicate no boot tho maybe a close shave (figuratively).
Cap 9 My favorite. My Eliza, what a sly sly evil look (and whats up with those eyebrows anyway?). I want to believe that this is the BIG CLUE because it is so well done if it is true. She is going to OFF LISA (Put an EVIL LAUGH here). Again, in this juxtaposition of images, she could really be thinking anything, but it would be so perfect if this was the key clue. What an image, and what an impact. She may be getting a subtle (or not so subtle) Jerri Mantheny edit. Eyebrows aside, whats with her pop-eyes?, Other shots show her pop-eyes more clearly. Dehydration or severe dieting might be responsible for that pop-eye-ness, but she really has a certain holocaust (no offence) look. If she is squeamish about eating strange foods (even Dah's foods could seem strange to a rich pampered kid?), and if she's not been eating much (Except Pringles) theres a chance that malnutrition could be cause her to be the medivac. We are getting to about 2 weeks when something like that could cause problems, especially since she wasn't too meaty to start with.
Cap 10 MB indicating Lisa going down. She is shown giving what might be interpreted by the viewer (regardless of what it really is for) as a defeated look. It fits so well with cap 9. Seems to be after wake-up or pig scramble (my bet, I think I see a spot of mud or two), shes kinda rough here.
Cap 11 Leanne with a murderous look also. Indicates friction with someone, and with the previous caps its not hard to imagine Lisa as the target. Haven't figured out why this could be though.
Cap 12 This is Julie, right? If there was ever a cap with ominous portent, this is it. Showing someone with a reversed ghost image has to be an indication of upcoming demise. This is not (I believe) a naturally induced image, I think this has to be an on-purpose artifact (anyone know how this could happen naturally with a video camera under these circumstances?) Unless its a fade from one frame to another when making the vidcap. But that doesn't explain the reversed image, if that is what that is. Winding it up -
The above caps are an indication that Yasur wins RC - hence the dirty celebration, and Lopevi wins IC - the sly and pensive looks seem to give this away, and lets face it, the odds would have to be very long on Yasur winning a rugged swimming contest. And Lisa goes to the hotel. I have to give a nod to booting Julie, although I would bet that the Julie/ghost cap indicated her exit next week. JK is safe because his team wins immunity, and Rory combines the good fortune of Elizas persuasive powers plus her enmity with Lisa, with his own persuasive arguments to save his growed assed-up self once again (his vocabulary or language usage skills apparently aren't as growed-assed up as the rest of his growed-assed self). Final odd thoughts
- Cap with Lisa holding pig, should be a portent of something, maybe hogtied and outta here (someone said something like that).
- Cap with Chad maybe catching a pig. Maybe so. That could just be his stump/prosthesis. That what it looks like to me.
- Dirty clothes while sunning on the beach? Although I think Yasur wins RC I wouldnt base that conclusion on those caps. Its not likely that they would be given a live pig to prepare on their own at their camp (ala Australia where they actually caught the pig themselves). Id be willing to bet that the winner of the pig RC, even if the pig was the prize, didnt have to prepare it themselves. Usually, when a pig (or any big animal) is killed, the meat has to age a bit (a few days anyway) before its really fit to eat, so I would imagine that the winner would be taken to a place where a spread was laid out for them. With another pig as main dish. (OK MAYBE they could be given prepared steaks, burgers, dogs, etc. for camp site cooking). However I don't think sunning on the beach with washed clothes hanging in the shadows (? How not smart is that) wouldnt necessarily mean they lost. Even though they probably do. Both teams may very well have returned to their camps and washed up, with the winning team being picked up later for their reward.
- Oh Yeah. Julie on the beach sans bikini parts. No clues there, I just like to reflect on that, although the Pops out clue comes hopefully to mind. And it brings to mind a certain appreciation I have for the latest survivor recruiters who brought these women together who might not sink so well, and maybe the Playboy model is a lesbian, but thats allright, its OK with me. Eliza too.
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10-19-04, 11:42 AM (EST)
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100. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
I think that the vidcaps of Lisa are of a "deep in thought" nature and based on the airheadedness she seems to have displayed, that has to take effort. But, then again, I think the airheaded, giddy school girl act is just an act. I think she is very sly and intentional. I am not so sure she does not have some sort of trick up her sleeve. Now is when the weaker ones or maybe weaker is the wrong word, but the ones that can feel the days on the island more strongly have got to start thinking about when the merge happens and about individual immunities and whom they don't want to go against. Or how to increase their odds of being an immunity challenge winner.
Scout,Rory,Lisa and LeAnne probably do not stand a chance against Amy. I think the main physical threat to Sarge would be John K. because youth is on his side and the ability to put speed where he needs to. Just because Sarge is part of the fat five does not mean he is not in shape.
At any rate, I think Lisa is up to something and Scout may be weighing her options at this point.
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102. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
True. They may not see anyone as a threat, but that little worm John K. makes you almost like him for his intellect. I would like for someone to win based on their total ability to play the game, more than their flashy smile or their great boobs. Which makes me root for Sarge,Twila,LeAnne,Chad and maybe Julie. But I think she better come up with a plan better than taking her clothes off. While it works with men most of the time, this year these guys seem intent on being the last ones on Vanuatu.
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10-19-04, 01:20 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
Is this THE Firefly?????WELCOME!!!! I agree with you and Katie, Julie is a threat to Chris and no way no how is he going to let her get her hooks in any of the men with her feminine "wiles"--he's going to target her now!! Also, Twila would not be in conflict over two guys to vote for, rather she is conflict over voting out a woman over a man!
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10-19-04, 02:57 PM (EST)
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114. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
But why show Chris talking about Julie as a potential F5? Maybe he is afraid of himself being swayed--remember what he said about women on the first ep.-it's harder for him to manipulate them. Therefore, he wants to nip her in the bud NOW.Twila is in conflict about her vote (I think it's her revote after a tie). She first does agree to side with Julie after she hears about the Flab 3 going after Julie this week--for the reasons you said-she's afraid of her being next. But when the 3-3 tie occurs with Julie and IMO Chris, she is in real conflict, bc she likes Chris et al and does not particularly like Julie the bowhead---she gets the sign--Julie's torch being blown out by wind--and she goes with the men. I think this may end up being her downfall-but not until after the merge when Ami the feminazi finds out that it was, in reality, Twila's vote that sent Julie, a woman, even if she is a bowhead, home. Ami will probably assume that it was a 4-2 vote against Julie with JK siding with the men-that's how she thinks in this game--men v. women, anything else to her is unthinkable!!
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10-19-04, 10:29 PM (EST)
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120. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
That wouldn't be a sign, that's more like me lying in the middle of the road with tire tracks across me, and THEN someone says watch out.
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10-19-04, 02:23 PM (EST)
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113. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
I'll raise this question again: if the NuLopevis boot either JohnK or Julie this week they have to LOSE the Immunity Challenge. Someone please tell me how they will do this without Sarge agreeing to throw the competition. You all have seen Scout and Lisa swimming.
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112. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
I think Chris sees Julie as a threat when in combination of JK - but since JK is the stronger of the two - get rid of JK. Chris still thinks he can beat any of these women in individual competitions. It is a Julie/Twila/JK combo thats a threat. Chris/Twila is a new secret alliance I think and Chris will talk Twila into voting for JK I think.
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10-20-04, 11:57 AM (EST)
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123. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
I hope so. I think he is worried about himself being taken in by her. I don't dislike her, but I really believe most of the rest of Lopevi and LeAnne and Amy are truly playing Survivor. And I would like for them to be in the finals, minus Ami. I don't think Lopevi will lose the immunity challenge, but I am curious? Who would be the three to vote against Chris? Julie,
JK and Chad, because I am pretty sure Twila ain't gonna do it. I could see Twila voting for JK, but not Chris.
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10-19-04, 02:07 PM (EST)
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111. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-19-04 AT 02:31 PM (EST)
"I think that the vidcaps of Lisa are of a "deep in thought" nature and based on the airheadedness she seems to have displayed, that has to take effort."
I think you are probably right about Lisa's actual thoughts and airheadedness, and it could be an act, an UTR strategy. Or maybe not. But I think all/most of the video sequences not chronogogically presented and are used to portray what they seem to be thinking show rather that what they actually are thinking, or even what they are capable of thinking. I also think that the vid caps arrangement, first showing eliza's evil seeming dagger shooting look, followed by Lisa's seemingly defeated look, might be a the givaway clue purposly laid in by the editor to indicate the bootiful booty to be booted this week. Whether they do or do not play these games (the editors that is) I prefer to think that they do becuse it adds to some of the audiences's (i.e. my) pleasure - and that's good for the ratings - and provides continuity from beginning to end. This tends to hold the audiences attention, brings them back next week (all kinds of continuity examples, Robb-amber being the best I can think of). the OFG theory could be an example of editor manipulation. A TV editor is just naturally thinking along these lines and deconstructing his thinking could be useful. I would like to think that there is more depth however, and the thought that Lisa might have a suprise trick up her sleeve is intriguing. I'd like to see it. I enjoyed Lisa's non-boot last week even though she was my pick then too. I agree with you about scout, that is what I also think the caps indicate.
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10-19-04, 08:02 PM (EST)
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118. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
First of all, thanks to Emydi for THE welcome. Also Scarlett- thank you. Now, it appears that everyone is in agreement that JK, Julie and Lisa are the next to go- in some order. The key is to determine who wins the IC challenge this week- that will narrow down the bootee list. We watched the water challenge last episode, and although it appeared close, it was Chris dropping one of the markers that made it that way. Lopevi has the stronger swimmers and should be victorious over Yasur IMO. If this challenge requires that everyone take a turn (as opposed to the stronger swimmers taking the turns of the weaker), this bodes even better for a Lopevi victory. Will Lopevi throw a challenge to keep Rory safe? I think that Lopev's 'competitiveness' will win out here. So I see Yasur going to TC and Lisa gone... The one thing that bothers me is the amount of airtime that Julie gets this episode. If she isn't on screen, someone is talking about her ie: Chris and his 'sweet talk' speech. Perhaps this is her 'last (and only) hurrah' and it is her rise just to fall the next week. So Ginger.......I ask the same question- how does Lopevi lose the water challenge and end up at TC?  Fire FLy
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10-19-04, 09:03 PM (EST)
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119. "RE: Episode 6- WEB PROMO VIDCAPS" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-19-04 AT 09:05 PM (EST)Welcome Fire Fly! I sent your new sig pic to Scarlett Ohara this evening, so get with her to retrieve it. I answered this in the Bootee thread, but I can answer it again here. First of all, we do not know what exactly the entire IC is all about from the few caps that we have. In caps 21 and 21B above we see the top view of the platforms of Nuyasur and Nulopevi. Chris is just getting out of the water and a woman that looks like Ami is just getting to her platform, so in those pics it is a very close race. If this is a relay of any sort, then I can see how Nuyasur would win. Chris wasn't the only one to have failed in the water challenge last week. Twila and Lea each came up empty handed, which means that most likely so did somebody else for Nuyasur, yet they didn't show us all the misses. In anycase, Chris and Lea may be strong men, but they are bigger and slow and if it is swimming any distance they may not have the stamina of a smaller more athletically built female. In Survivor history there have been some surprise victories. One that comes to mind is in S1 when Gervase beat Kelly in the rowing leg of the relay challenge, and Kelly was a whiteriver rafting guide. Sook Jai got cocky and DQed person after person in the pirate boarding challenge and a weaker Chuay Ghan won. Kathy and Gina rowed to a victory vs the very strong Rotus in a come from behind upset victory. Without knowing all of the components of this IC, I have got to base my pick on other evidence. The evidence for either a Julie or John boot this week is very compelling, (did I get the court room speak down Emy?) moreso than Lisa at Nuyasur. Rory sticks around if you believe the spoiler about Survivor getting his local newspaper for a reward challenge. The vidcaps seem to be particularly stingy this year, making it tougher to determine what all is going on. But we keep doing our best!
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) and maybe the Yasur woman is Eliza???
