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" VIDCAPS: Survivor Vanuatu Episode 5 Preview "
Next time, on Survivor....


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Buff Bluff or just more BS? Risti 10-08-04 1
 OFG Theory for Thursday preview Brownroach 10-08-04 2
   RE: OFG Theory for Thursday preview bdemoney 10-08-04 3
       RE: OFG Theory for Thursday preview Brownroach 10-08-04 9
   RE: OFG Theory for Thursday preview nailbone 10-08-04 25
       RE: OFG Theory for Thursday preview ExInterper 10-10-04 34
 Earthquake: Before or After Swap? FesterFan1 10-08-04 4
   RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... katethegreat 10-08-04 5
       RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... Brownroach 10-08-04 6
           RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... Draco Malfoy 10-08-04 7
           RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... FesterFan1 10-08-04 8
               RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... Brownroach 10-08-04 10
   RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... forehead 10-08-04 11
       RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... Brownroach 10-08-04 12
       RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... volsfan 10-08-04 13
           RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... forehead 10-08-04 14
       RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... VerucaSalt 10-08-04 15
           RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... jusalurker 10-08-04 16
           RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... Brownroach 10-08-04 17
               RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... VerucaSalt 10-08-04 18
                   RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... emydi 10-08-04 22
                       RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... volsfan 10-08-04 24
                           RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... emydi 10-08-04 26
                               RE: Earthquake: Before or After Sw... volsfan 10-08-04 28
   Nevermind FesterFan1 10-08-04 19
       Web Promo FesterFan1 10-08-04 20
           RE: Web Promo Brownroach 10-08-04 21
               RE: Web Promo volsfan 10-08-04 23
                   RE: Web Promo Brownroach 10-08-04 27
               Rory goes to Yasur FesterFan1 10-08-04 31
                   RE: Rory goes to Yasur Gingerman28 10-09-04 32
                   RE: Rory goes to Yasur big idiot 10-09-04 33
           RE: Web Promo emydi 10-08-04 29
               RE: Web Promo volsfan 10-08-04 30

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1. "Buff Bluff or just more BS?"
I saw the clips, and in my DAW-ness, rushed off to make some buff comparison shots. Then I realized something. CBS is likely not giving us these shots in chronological order. I checked around the threads, and yes, it appears the earthquake is on July 7, which should be the first day of this episode.

Now, if I have misread, someone let me know, and I'll post my longwinded post that includes enlarged photos with arrows about where they could have been edited.

If not, I'll just sit in the corner and wait to see if we get more clips.

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2. "OFG Theory for Thursday preview"
No John K, no Lisa, no Julie.

Some Eliza, some Chris, some Lea, some Twila, some Leann.

A ton of Bubba.


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3. "RE: OFG Theory for Thursday preview"
BR, Do you think this could be an indication that Bubba is in more danger of being booted than John K. right now? Wonder if that means that the tribes have some sort of reshuffling next week or perhaps Bubba becomes even more homesick and the guys decide to vote him off early. HMMMMM?!?

But guess we will need to wait and see more vid caps before jumping to conclusions. Would be anxious to hear everyone's opinion on this though...........

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9. "RE: OFG Theory for Thursday preview"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 11:36 AM (EST)

The misdirection says that someone will get caught trying to communicate with a member of the opposite tribe -- presumably after the switch. KOFan and I think it will be one of the Fat Five and Travis seems like a good bet. He's been the most candid about the alliance with the Studs so I could see him getting sloppy about keeping it hidden. It could result in a boot for him.

Early speculation, we'll see what develops...


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25. "RE: OFG Theory for Thursday preview"
Remind me again, what's OFG's theory?


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34. "RE: OFG Theory for Thursday preview"
I think the theory is that the person who is the next boot will appear in the preview of the next episode, especially in random shots not relevant to the episode plot preview.

There are a ton of unnecessary Bubba shots in this preview, making him a good candidate for the boot if the theory applies here.

Mmmm...blog....
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4. "Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 11:10 AM (EST)

In the preview for E5, Jeff talks about the swap first before specifically saying "then" regarding the earthquake. It's semantics and he might not mean the earthquake follows the swap in the chronological sense, but rather in the "importance to the game" sense, but there's something else we can use.

In the thread where Dabo reports the earthquake, a specific time is given, as the source is a geologic website. That time is 7/7 21:29:23, which up until now we all took as July 7. However, in looking further at that site, all times are reported using UTC, or Greenwich Mean Time. This means that 7/7 21:29 really means 9:29 PM in England. Vanuatu is 11 hours ahead of GMT, which would put the earthquake at 8:29 AM on July 8.

What does this mean? Well, the earthquake is on July 8, the same day as the waterfall reward. So, it's really just a question of whether there are 2 tribal gatherings (one where the swap occurs and one for the RC) or just one (tribes arrive, are swapped and compete in the same meeting).

There's no real precedent for this. The only other times where the swap occurred with all the Survivors present were S4 and S8, and both of those times there was no RC. I think, based on the timing, that we're looking at 3 meetings in E5. Day 10, tribes meet and are swapped. Day 11, waterfall reward challenge. Day 12, IC. However, I must admit that I wasn't paying close enough attention last night as to whether the E4 IC and TC occurred on Day 9 or Day 10. I think E4 was just 2 days. Day 8, tribes gather for RC, Yasur wins, Dah arrives. Day 9, Dah leaves, IC, TC. Can anyone confirm this?

If this is the case, I think it means that the earthquake occurs after the swap, which means Leeann, Eliza, and Julie remain on Yasur and Bubba remains on Lopevi. It's likely that the tribes remain with the current numbers (Yasur 7, Lopevi 6). That would likely mean that 4 of Original Lopevi wind up on Yasur, with 4 of Yasur (and specifically Scout, Ami, Twila and Lisa) moving to Lopevi.

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5. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
I think Episode 4 was only two days.

So going with your timeline, the earthquake occuring AFTER the swap, who is in CLip 24, is this an earthquake shot, and did they end up on the same team? I think it is LeeAnn in the background, ELiza and Julie?

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6. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
I thought last night's Ep was two days also, but other posters here swore they saw "Day 10" superimposed at one point. But the summary on the CBS site makes it sound like it was only 2 days.

That is Leann in the background but what is that bright green thing? LOL, at first I thought it was Lisa's green bikini and her boobs had gotten SCI-FI huge.


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7. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
Can we get a vidcap just to confirm or deny that IC and TC were day 10? Cause this is gonna bug us all week.

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8. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
So if that's Leeann in the background, that must mean there are aftershocks, as well? I mean she couldn't be in 2 places at the same time, right?

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10. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 12:10 PM (EST)

It looked more like Leann, but maybe it is Lisa, then. Leann has her buff around her head in the other shots.

ETA: It still looks more like Leann to me. But the other shots of her are from a confessional, aren't they?


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11. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
>If this is the case, I think it means that the earthquake occurs after the swap, which means Leeann, Eliza, and Julie remain on Yasur and Bubba remains on Lopevi. It's likely that the tribes remain with the current numbers (Yasur 7, Lopevi 6). That would likely mean that 4 of Original Lopevi wind up on Yasur, with 4 of Yasur (and specifically Scout, Ami, Twila and Lisa) moving to Lopevi.

Nice spec, Fester! That would imply:
New Lopevi: Scout, Ami, Twila, Lisa, Bubba + ?
Easy to see how first Bubba and later Lisa get booted (especially if ? = JonhK and gets booted in between Bubba and Lisa)

New Yasur: Leann, Eliza, Julie + 3 Fat 5 + another Fat 5 or JohnK.
If it's 4 Fat 5 on New Yasur, Julie wouldn't last long here.

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12. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 12:16 PM (EST)

There could be a fourth woman at Yasur. That would make more sense if they put 3 men and 3 women on each tribe -- the extra woman would stay at Yasur since they had an extra member.

Though "Drop your buffs" suggests a random reshuffling to me.


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13. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 12:17 PM (EST)

I don't think we can jump to conclusion that have Scout, Ami, Twil and Lisa are the new Lopevi, IMHO!

On the previews, we hear Jiffy say, "drop your buffs"! From that, I think this swap is going to be more of a random draw rather than we get a 3 for 4 split. This could be a pick a buff like last time and only one or two peeps are swapped.

ETA: LOL! BR! Great minds and all!


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14. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
>I don't think we can jump to conclusion that have Scout, Ami, Twil and Lisa are the new Lopevi, IMHO!

Didn't mean to conclude anything - just painting one of many possible scenarios that happens to fit Fester's spec and Snewser's memo. It's all spec though

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15. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
It certainly appears to be Lisa in the background to me which would then appear that
Lisa, Julie and Eliza are intact
Leann, Scout, Ami and Twilla are intact with potentially one of them (Leann?) being with the Bowhead group though the breakdown seems very convenient.

I'm not entirely sure where everyone feels that is Leann but I am better at storyline.

With Eliza's referencing last night of herself and Julie being the most vulnerable as well as Lisa's wish that won't come true of "rather be with the elders" .......... in storyline terms I would take this as Lisa NOT getting her wish and Eliza's expression of vulnerability for and Julie be misdirection.

Consequently with John K's dourness of not being with youthful members, he may just end up with Bowheads but of course this is all speculatory in nature. While the likes of Chad and Travis who have emoted more desire for harmony may be with the Burly girls.

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16. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
Don't you just love Jeffs new Orange hat?

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17. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
I'm not entirely sure where everyone feels that is Leann but I am better at storyline.

The pants look like the same khaki cargo pants Leann is wearing in the other caps. I don't recall Lisa having pants like that. And the body from the midriff down and the slightly hunched stance look more like Leann's.


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18. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
Understood BR but all I see is GREEN lolol

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22. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
Ok, VS, I'm not going crazy...I can't see what they are looking at either, but this monitor shows caps very dark even on the lightest setting UGH!!!

Looks like we have to wait for the web promo, et al. to see the new buffs

BR--at least we know that a switch occurs and we won't need to analyze whether buffs have been recolored!!


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24. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
I don't think they are looking at anything in particular. I have never been in an earthquake but I could imagine looking up at the trees or to look out towards the ocean.

What would you do as the Earth shakes under your feet? I would think that if I were under those trees like Bubba...I would try to make my way onto the beach and away from possible falling trees.


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26. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
No, doc, not what Eliza and Julie are looking at, what BR, et al are looking at (Leann or Lisa in the background) in vidcap 24--I don't see anything!!


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28. "RE: Earthquake: Before or After Swap?"
BWAHAHAHA! Sorry emy! Yeah, I am having a blonde moment I guess! It must be your monitor because on my computer the pic is very clear and bright! Not dark at all!


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19. "Nevermind"
Upon further review E4 took place Days 8, 9, and 10. In looking at the tape, on the morning where Rory goes fishing before the IC, it clearly says "Lopevi Day 10".

Therefore, Day 11 (July 8) is the first day of E5, which means that the earthquake happens before the swap. The vidcaps of Leeann, Eliza, Julie, Bubba (and Lisa?) are useless in figuring out who goes where.

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20. "Web Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 02:15 PM (EST)

The web promo is up at cbs.com. There's a diving challenge post-swap that clearly shows Twila standing behind Sarge with a Lopevi buff. There's another male in the water, whom I think is Chad, diving at the Lopevi buoy. The other platform has Eliza, Leeann, Lisa, and Ami all visible, with Leeann (I believe) wearing her yellow buff. So the folks on that platform stay at Yasur.

Also, regarding the swap, the native Vanuatuan tells Sarge that they have to choose "one chief" while he's holding some sort of wooden idol.

As of yet, Fever doesn't have the caps posted.

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21. "RE: Web Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 03:20 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 02:38 PM (EST)

The chiefs then become selectors of the new tribes, perhaps. Wanna bet Lopevi picks Sarge?

While we're waiting for the vidcaps, I can't resist speculating.

If Sarge is new Lopevi's chief, he picked Twila (strong, old) and also Chad. He'd get one other male; I'd guess he'd pick Chris. By default he gets Scout and Julie, since they're not at the Yasur dock.

So does Yasur pick Ami as their chief? I'd have guessed Scout, but of the four women still at Yasur, Ami makes the most sense; she's done the most to try to bridge the generation gap.

Ami would almost certainly pick John K, out of gratitude for the immunity favor. Does she get Bubba and Rory? Or does she get Chris, and one of Bubba and Rory stays with Sarge? The distribution of the remaining Fat Five is up for grabs.

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23. "RE: Web Promo"
So, do you guys think the "drop your buffs" is misdirection and they get to pick their new tribe?


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27. "RE: Web Promo"
I suppose he'd tell them all to drop their buffs first in either case.


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31. "Rory goes to Yasur"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-04 AT 03:48 PM (EST)

In the caps at Fever, you can see Rory on the Yasur platform during the diving challenge. The diving Lopevi male is either Chad or Bubba. It's hard to tell, because he's wearing a diving mask, and you can only see his head. I still think it's Chad, though.

Running tally:
New Yasur = Eliza, Lisa, Leeann, Ami, Rory, ??, ??
New Lopevi = Sarge, Twila, Chad(?), ??, ??, ??

I'm guessing John K. goes to Yasur, while Scout and Julie go to Lopevi (if it's a boy-girl-boy-girl pick 'em). That leaves Chris and Bubba. Sarge would rather have Chris, I'd guess, and if he winds up staying on Lopevi, the tribes look like this:

New Yasur: Eliza, Leann, Ami, Rory, Lisa, John K., and Bubba (Red=Doomed per Snewser's List)

New Lopevi: Sarge, Chad, Chris, Twila, Scout, and Julie.

This would likely mean that New Lopevi wins 2 of the 3 pre-merge IC's (or 3 of 4 if there's a late merge).

2 questions...
How does Rory outlast Lisa on New Yasur?

Are we looking at a TC tie with New Lopevi in E6's "Hog Tied"?

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32. "RE: Rory goes to Yasur"
If new Lopevi tribe wins the IC, the vote at the new Yasur tribe could be: the men stick together JohnK, Bubba, and Rory. JohnK has a deal with Ami and she votes with he men. The four vote to boot Lisa who only has Leann and Eliza voting for Rory.

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33. "RE: Rory goes to Yasur"
Fester,

"Are we looking at a TC tie with New Lopevi in E6's "Hog Tied"?"

If Yasur votes one out in episode 5, then couldn't a tie refer to either tribe being at TC in ep 6? And if rumors of a Julie boot for Ep 8 are solid, then perhaps this could point to new Yasur going to TC in ep 5 AND ep 6? (AND ep 7?) ...and then new Lopevi goes to TC in ep 8?

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29. "RE: Web Promo"
They're up at Fever, you want me to post em?? I dont want to have a dup. thread


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30. "RE: Web Promo"
Sure..go for it! I just noticed that too!


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