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"SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3"
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09-24-04, 02:05 AM (EST)
 
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"SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
Post-Tribal Council fallout leaves one castaway feeling the heat from fellow tribe members. At another tribe, differing work ethics and personalities lead to a clash between two castaways. Both tribes are shocked when they gather for a Challenge and are told at the end of the day there will be a double Tribal Council. A twist at the end of the Challenge puts one castaway in a very influential position. Tension and politicking run rabid at both camps as several vulnerable tribe members jockey to survive. Two will leave Vanuatu...who will it be?
Discuss!
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 02:23 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
Post-Tribal Council fallout leaves one castaway feeling the heat from fellow tribe members.Sorry, Eliza now you must pay the price for stabbing your sorority mates. However, you really did make the right choice as now, the elders will protect you. At least for awhile. At another tribe, differing work ethics and personalities lead to a clash between two castaways. Rory and Lea finally have it out. Good! Cause frankly Rory is getting on my nerves. Big time. I only wish he would be considered as a potential boot. Both tribes are shocked when they gather for a Challenge and are told at the end of the day there will be a double Tribal Council. A twist at the end of the Challenge puts one castaway in a very influential position. Tension and politicking run rabid at both camps as several vulnerable tribe members jockey to survive. Two will leave Vanuatu...who will it be? Who was it that said this can't and won't be done. Well...ppplllbtt on you.
MB has a schedule to keep and nothing will stop him from doing it all in 39 days.
It also sounds like someone may win an Individual Immunity of sorts. Being the winner may come with just a personal immunity or they may be able to share this immunity with someone else, as well.
Maybe the winner is the only one to vote? Two people booted next week for sure though.
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09-24-04, 11:53 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-24-04 AT 11:54 AM (EST)Along the lines of having 2 II's, let's look at the Misdirection statement: "Tension and politicking run rabid at both camps as several vulnerable tribe members jockey to survive. Two will leave Vanuatu...who will it be?" I highlighted the "several vulnerable" part because it implies that not all the tribe members are vulnerable. Now we all know that sometimes you are safe because of your alliance. But even an alliance can flop, so everyone is vulnerable except when? You are not vulnerable if you have immunity. I think that JP is going show us a second II, and both teams are going to compete for immunity within the tribe. edit to add the end bold - doh!
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09-24-04, 11:16 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-24-04 AT 11:21 AM (EST)BR and Doc, Until I read your posts, I was thinking it would be like Allstars after the merge, when they did the same challenge for the men and women and each earned immunity. My thoughts, Brady/JP for men and Ami/Leann/Twila for women...we'll have to wait for vidcaps from challenges. But I like your idea (esp. now that I have read the misdirection) that one or two get to give immunity to someone. I always like when people earn immunity!! So, I would like to see each of the winners be able to give another immunity to a member on the other tribe--thus able to build alliances now for later. I bet if this occurs, it would be a burly girl giving it to an old bunch and vice versa and a young stud giving it to a bowhead and vice versa. What else do they have to go on?? ETA: Ok, I reread the misdirection and Only One castaway is influential...whoever wins the II gets to give it to another person on the other tribe? I like my idea better pffffft  
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09-24-04, 09:37 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
Post-Tribal Council fallout leaves one castaway feeling the heat from fellow tribe members.It's either Eliza for ditching the Bowheads or Twila for minimizing the Bowheads' efforts around camp. We got a nice eyeroll from Mia at TC about that and some of her fireworks in the E3 preview. Regardless, it's sour grapes and doesn't matter in the slightest now that the Burly Girls (+ Eliza) have the upper hand. At another tribe, differing work ethics and personalities lead to a clash between two castaways. The Lea and Rory lovefest. Boy, if Rory has some charm, he sure hasn't shown it so far. What happened to the guy from the pre-show interview? Classic misdirection, as it won't have any bearing on the E3 outcome. Both tribes are shocked when they gather for a Challenge and
are told at the end of the day there will be a double Tribal Council. A twist at the end of the Challenge puts one castaway in a very influential position. Agree with the individual immunity theory here, though I'm not quite sure how it will work. Will they run the challenge twice, once with Lopevi and once with Yasur? Right now, I'm more inclined to think that the influential person is on Yasur. That tribe is more up-for-grabs. If Eliza wins immunity, she could parlay that into some promises from the Burly Girls. Tension and politicking run rabid at both camps as several vulnerable tribe members jockey to survive. Two will leave Vanuatu...who will it be? Duh. Completely meaningless blather. Tension? Politicking? Right before TC? No, really? This is just their way of reemphasizing the double boot in E3.  Fester
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09-24-04, 11:51 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
I agree that its's for individual immunity and like they did for the 3 tribes, the first person from each tribe to cross the finish line/complete will get immunity. No need really to have it run twice.Even if two women complete before a man, the first guy who finsihes will get the immunity for himself. Eliza finds herself in a awkward position. She didn't expect to align with the elders, but found she did. Now her vote could either make it a tie, or swing with the elders again. Of course she can't be trusted (no poker face either) and will be voted out sooner than later. They will use her up then spit her out. It will be interesting to see how Scout and her interact given that they both wanted each other out.
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09-24-04, 01:02 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
Eh, I dunno, vols. With the individual immunity, you have been able to transfer it since S4. This is classic misdirection. If there is individual immunity, they have the power, and influence, to give that immunity to someone else. But they won't - they never do. (Unless you are Jenna and you give it to Heidi because you know that Christy is gone).
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09-24-04, 01:20 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
This purported 'Idol' could also give the holder 2 votes instead of 1. That would certainly put some ring in this commentary 'A twist at the end of the Challenge puts one castaway in a very influential position.' It would also create this: Tension and politicking run rabid at both camps as several vulnerable tribe members jockey to survive. Two will leave Vanuatu...who will it be? If a group had felt numerically superior to another, they would now feel vulnerable. 
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09-24-04, 03:08 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: SeeBS Misdirection Ep.3" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-24-04 AT 03:14 PM (EST)No, I understood what you said; I just didn't agree with it. What do we have to back up the claim that a 2nd II gets assigned? What do we have to show that the II has to be earned? 1. The last time there were 2 II's, both of the players had to earn it. 2. As previously stated, individual immunity has been transferable since S4. I have 2 points to your goose egg aka Zero (0). What makes you think that the 2nd II is assigned? ... or was that just speculation? edit to say: Ok, vols, I am humbly leaving this post after hearing Jiffy say in his VO: One person will win Immunity You are right, I am wrong. 
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09-24-04, 02:42 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Double TC Process" |
I think over the seasons one of the lessons I learned (where is that thread  ) is that the curve balls thrown to these contestants are relatively simple in their design while we tend to overthink it (this is coming from someone who sees symbolism everywhere mind you lol)Simplicity works best with these challenges; the more convulated or twisted takes away from the results the twist wants to develop. After all, the twists are designed to throw the contestants off their current game, their current alliances and so forth. We KNOW both tribes are going to TC
We SEE there is an II and what appears to be another II
We BELIEVE, as always, there will be a merger later While tweaking needs to be done; the simplest method involving what we know already is that in order to have a winning tribe go to TC they have to lose. That doesn't make sense so therefore the only way both tribes go to TC would appear to be that EVERYONE has the potential to lose. That could only be achieved if it is an individual win in the end. Since Jeff deemed BOTH tribes go to TC, they are still TWO tribes. You can only have two tribes go with two separate boots if individual immunity is employed. It may start out as a team challenge (I do see Lopevi red on the cages; perhaps there is a Yasur yellow cage?) and then progress to a individual race with two finish lines of some sort. They are forced to work with each other than against each other to be safe. As far as a twist putting one in an influential position I can only come up with one scenario as already discussed which is the most simple: One winner in an individual immunity and they can give the second II to someone on the opposite tribe of their choice. Knowing the reputation, however, of the unreliability of these teasers sometimes, it would not surprise me if the twist they refer to is what we already know from the preview.
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09-24-04, 02:58 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Double TC Process" |
That's a great theory. I'd like to add another twist:
There is only ONE winner and that person (male or female) gets to chose who on the OTHER TRIBE gets immunity.
That will create quite a stir for later when they merge (or not - depending if either of them is still in the game).
Other than that scenario - they will both do the same challenge (let's say a race to the finish line) and whoever gets over the finsih line wins. (no need to join forces - an all out every person for themselves)
If not one winner - then one from male and one from female. But my money is on only ONE PERSON WINNING.
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09-24-04, 02:50 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Double TC Process" |
Capn,Maybe it is just the wording that is tripping you up! I agree with you in that the tribe does something that sends them to TC. However, this was set up to at least have two immunities IMHO because of this: 
What I am saying happens is that it is an individual immunity and was designed to have both tribes go to TC because of this quote from Jiffy: JP: Both tribes will vote out one member tonight, separate Tribal Councils, two people going home. I think that someone will win immunity due to the way they finish in the immunity challenge.  
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09-24-04, 05:12 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Double TC Process" |
Maybe I can help.volsfan's point is that Jeff says that *one* person will WIN immunity. So we know that there is only *one* challenge WINNER. However, there is a second immunity idol sitting there, and Jeff says "Now here's the twist..." So the twist would seem to be that someone besides the challenge winner will also get immunity. And with misdirection that one person will be in an "influential position" after the challenge, it appears that the challenge winner will decide who the second immunity recipient is. 
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