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"*** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Before 12:00 EST, please use this thread or the Preview Vidcap thread to discuss tonight's episode ..................

SurvivorBlows.com provides this thread as a service to two groups:

1) People who want to post and read about the episode as it is being telecast across the various time zones. If you can't wait for the show to appear in your time zone, read the 'East Coast Update Thread' for an on-the-fly commentary.

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Please do not post any commentary
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 OMG! Courtney Cox looks so pregnant... IceCat 05-06-04 1
   RE:watch survivor on windows media ... flower 05-06-04 2
       RE:watch survivor on windows media ... Loquatrix 05-06-04 7
           RE:watch survivor on windows media ... flower 05-06-04 17
   RE: OMG! Courtney Cox looks so preg... Estee 05-06-04 4
   RE: OMG! Courtney Cox looks so preg... samboohoo 05-06-04 34
   RE: OMG! Courtney Cox looks so preg... dabo 05-07-04 62
 RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... Estee 05-06-04 3
 Revised episode title AyaK 05-06-04 5
 Previously on Survivor GrendelsMom 05-06-04 6
 Rupert made me cry CantStandToLook 05-06-04 8
   RE: Rupert made me cry Magic Fingers 05-06-04 16
       RE: Rupert made me cry CantStandToLook 05-06-04 27
           Rupert made me laugh Drive My Car 05-07-04 40
               RE: Rupert made me laugh rjrabbit 05-07-04 46
 RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... frisky 05-06-04 9
   RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... frisky 05-06-04 10
       RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... frisky 05-06-04 12
           RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... CantStandToLook 05-06-04 14
           RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... Drive My Car 05-07-04 41
               RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... rjrabbit 05-07-04 47
                   RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... Drive My Car 05-07-04 65
                       RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... rjrabbit 05-07-04 70
 first segment GrendelsMom 05-06-04 11
   surprise surprise GrendelsMom 05-06-04 13
 RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... shanana banana 05-06-04 15
 RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... frisky 05-06-04 18
   RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... frisky 05-06-04 20
       RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... Drive My Car 05-07-04 42
   hey frisk! GrendelsMom 05-06-04 21
 2nd segment GrendelsMom 05-06-04 19
   RE: 2nd segment frisky 05-06-04 22
 RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... frisky 05-06-04 23
   RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... frisky 05-06-04 25
       Admit it Drive My Car 05-07-04 44
           RE: Admit it rjrabbit 05-07-04 48
               RE: Admit it Drive My Car 05-07-04 67
                   RE: Admit it dabo 05-07-04 68
                   RE: Admit it rjrabbit 05-07-04 71
                   RE: Admit it lilRED 05-07-04 79
                       RE: Admit it rjrabbit 05-07-04 90
       Amber, you moron TeamJoisey 05-07-04 53
           RE: Amber, you moron rjrabbit 05-07-04 54
               RE: Amber, you moron Naked 05-07-04 73
 3rd segment GrendelsMom 05-06-04 24
   RE: 3rd segment frisky 05-06-04 28
       Swing Vote Drive My Car 05-07-04 45
           RE: Swing Vote rjrabbit 05-07-04 50
           Tom's mistake, and Romber's next mo... TeamJoisey 05-07-04 56
               RE: Tom's mistake, and Romber's nex... rjrabbit 05-07-04 58
                   RE: Tom's mistake, and Romber's nex... Drive My Car 05-07-04 69
 Boston Rob can do everything Loquatrix 05-06-04 26
   RE: Boston Rob can do everything Xtremeblonde 05-06-04 37
       RE: Boston Rob can do everything Drive My Car 05-07-04 49
           RE: Boston Rob can do everything DoodleBug 05-07-04 81
       RE: Boston Rob can do everything dabo 05-07-04 60
           RE: Boston Rob can do everything rjrabbit 05-07-04 64
               The 16 vote Drive My Car 05-07-04 72
                   RE: The 16 vote rjrabbit 05-07-04 74
                       RE: The 16 vote PepeLePew13 05-07-04 77
                       RE: The 16 vote dabo 05-07-04 78
                           RE: The 16 vote rjrabbit 05-07-04 84
                               RE: The 16 vote PepeLePew13 05-07-04 87
                               RE: The 16 vote dabo 05-07-04 88
                                   RE: The 16 vote rjrabbit 05-07-04 93
                                       RE: The 16 vote dabo 05-07-04 94
 et tu brute? J Slice 05-06-04 29
   Duh! IceCat 05-06-04 35
       RE: Duh! Drive My Car 05-07-04 51
           RE: Duh! rjrabbit 05-07-04 66
               RE: Duh! Naked 05-07-04 75
                   RE: Duh! Drive My Car 05-07-04 76
 RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... frisky 05-06-04 30
 4th segment GrendelsMom 05-06-04 31
 Next time, on survivor GrendelsMom 05-06-04 32
 Tom's final speech GrendelsMom 05-06-04 33
   RE: Tom's final speech Xtremeblonde 05-06-04 39
       RE: Tom's final speech Get Bent 05-07-04 43
       RE: Tom's final speech Drive My Car 05-07-04 55
       RE: Tom's final speech dabo 05-07-04 57
       Whistle!! TeamJoisey 05-07-04 59
       Warning AyaK 05-07-04 80
           RE: Warning Xtremeblonde 05-07-04 85
               RE: Warning GrendelsMom 05-07-04 89
                   RE: Warning Xtremeblonde 05-07-04 91
                       RE: Warning GrendelsMom 05-07-04 92
       RE: Tom's final speech Loquatrix 05-07-04 82
           RE: Tom's final speech Xtremeblonde 05-07-04 86
 KEEP THE INFO HERE! anotherkim 05-06-04 36
 Tom is an idiot - and voting commen... Get Bent 05-06-04 38
   RE: Tom is an idiot - and voting co... Drive My Car 05-07-04 61
       RE: Tom is an idiot - and voting co... Brownroach 05-07-04 83
 RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... dabo 05-07-04 52
   RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update... Drive My Car 05-07-04 63

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1. "OMG! Courtney Cox looks so pregnant!"
I wonder if Rachel and Ross will get back together...

I wonder if Joey and his brain will get back together...

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2. "RE:watch survivor on windows media player...it works again!!"
go to mms://199.218.4.68/10tvlive it's a cbs station from ohio and you can watch survivor on windows media player!!
hope this is okay to post here!!...it's sort of a spoiler really!!
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7. "RE:watch survivor on windows media player...it works again!!"
OMG OMG OMG this is the first time the live feed has ever worked for me. ::hops around::
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17. "RE:watch survivor on windows media player...it works again!!"
I'm so excited...it hasn't worked for a long time!!...I hope it stays up for big brother this summer!!!
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4. "RE: OMG! Courtney Cox looks so pregnant!"
I wonder if Joey and his brain will get back together...

Unfortunately, Jenna's still using it.

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34. "RE: OMG! Courtney Cox looks so pregnant!"
Yep Cat, looks like Fat Monica is back.

Just how many cameras are on her?

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62. "RE: OMG! Courtney Cox looks so pregnant!"
Yes, and we'll have to watch the spinoff.
or maybe not
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3. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
I don't know about the rest of you, but I like Tom's chances tonight. I've got the odds of there being alcohol at the production camp at 100%.
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5. "Revised episode title"
Survivor All-Stars Ep. 14: "The One Without Any Drama"
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6. "Previously on Survivor"
Rupert and Jenna bitched about the workload
Loved ones visited, were treated to Survivor-type food
BuckyBo had the iron-est stomach, chose Rob and Mike for beer and pizza
Rob and Amber were lazy
Tom was "no match" for the others at immunity challenge
Shii tried to scramble, but was next to go
5 left, tonight one more *cough*TOM*cough* will go
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8. "Rupert made me cry"
I was laughing so hard just now I cried. The look on Ruperts face when he turned and saw Rawb standing there and said we have to beat Big Tom...priceless



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16. "RE: Rupert made me cry"
Oh it was funny...then offering Rob a PEACE coconut!!

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27. "RE: Rupert made me cry"
That face was what put me in tears....that's the same face my two year old makes when he's stumped or contemplating how next to destroy the house.
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40. " Rupert made me laugh"

This was the moment when Rupert knew he lost the game.

The trying to offer a coconut to Rob, was priceless.

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46. "RE: Rupert made me laugh"
Did you notice how quick his arm was moving when he handed the coconut to Rob? Nervousness maybe.

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9. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Lamber didn't think the game would be too hard in the end...duh.

Rob overhears Rupert/Jenna planning to oust him. Tells Amber...we got problems. They have no intention of going to the final 4 with us.

Challenge: elimination-based...first three to finish do the basket stomping. last two do some rope ladder climbing and stuff. They're playing for a truck.

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10. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Jiffy reminds them that the person that wins the car never wins Survivor. "Think about that" he says. Naughty Jiffy! *spankspank*

1st round: Rupert's out.

2nd round: (Amber's gonna have a wardrobe misfunction) Rob, Amber and Big Tahm move on.

3rd round: Amber and Rawb move on.

final round: Rob!

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12. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Rawb's gonna take Ambuh to the drive-in!
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14. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
maybe this is where he knocks her up setting up our surprise shocker for sunday...hehehe

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41. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Their first "date"!
OH My! How cute was that?!!!

I Love them together.

( ok, so I am a totally romantic geek, but that was the cutest thing evah!)

I am telling you people, they HAVE to be final 2 after this.


*sigh*

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47. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
I hope you weren't being snarky cause then I'm going to feel dumb but I like those two together and I hope they are the final two.

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65. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
No, I wasn't being snarky. ( though sometimes I am)

I love them together. I love the whole season.

The romance thing was a bonus for me, the playing everyone else was awesome. I am cheering Rob and Amber, and have been from the first episode.
I want them to make final 2.

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70. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-04 AT 02:05 AM (EST)

I think it would be such a great story if they find true love and end up getting married.

I didn't decide I wanted Rob and Amber in the final two until about half way through.

ps. I answered your question on the 'Sue is the "Big Surprise"'thread. I'd really like your feedback on how I came up with my surprise scenario.

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11. "first segment"
LAST EDITED ON 05-06-04 AT 08:16 PM (EST)

mood shot: pelican
Day 34
Rupert: weather is terrible, shelter is pitiful, we all stink; challenges are getting more physical. This is getting harder every day
Rob: you get so fed up with people you're with, you're tired, cranky, hungry
Tom: wueo voiuwepr wpoieoi wurfpwer oiweuruowe
Rob: Most of the time out here, I haven't understood Tom at all! He makes these unintellible noises. nobody understands what he's sayin.

Rupert and Jenna discuss strategy: Jenna says vote Rob, but Rob was standing right there.
Rupert: I don't need Rob to be full of paranoia, paranoia will destroy ya. (what a poet!)

Rob tells Amber that Rupert has no intention of going to final four with them
Amber: I thought strategy was set, game was going to be easier in the end. Boy was I wrong. I don't blame Rob for being worried, but it's out of our control right now.

Reward challenge: Second chance. Elimination based.
Balance beam, belly crawl puzzle and flag, launching plank, rope ladder and bridge with flying fox

reward: GM Chevy Colorado, drive-in movie theater, food, pillows & blankets

survivor trivia: person who won car has never won survivor--keep eye on this, this might be key

balance beam: Rob, Jenna, Tom, Amber; Rupert out.
crawl & puzzle (it's the get the knife thing): Rob, Amber, Tom; Jenna out
launching plank (3 food items into basket--it's the after-Sue challenge)
Amber1, Amber2, Amber3 in a row, Rob1, Rob2, Rob3; Tom out
Rope: Rob leads up ladder, Rob first down fox, Rob wins reward.

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13. "surprise surprise"
Rob takes Amber on reward,
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15. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
That's an interesting quote by Jiffy ---- nobody who has ever won the car has won Survivor. hmmmm......foreshadowing, perhaps? Or trying to throw us off the track? lol

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18. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Rawb says Jiffy's comment about no car winner ever winning Survivor didn't stop him. He says "I'll tell ya, it was worth it!"

Rawb and Ambuh are gonna watch Lord of the Flies.

Ambuh wins a car because Rawb selected her!

Ambuh to Rob: You just won me a car! OMG!
Rob: You earned it! Well, not yet, but you'll earn it latuh! (hehe...Frisky taking dramatic license)

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20. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Rawb: You can't lose sight of the fact that you're playing for a million dollars. I'm not gonna forfeit to anybody...including her." *snake rattling noise*

Back at camp, Rupie is hoping Lamber brings back a piece of candy.

Lamber decides to tell the group about her winning a car. Jenna looks pissed!

They brought back piles of candy and split it up, giving themselves a share. Rupie's upset.

Everyone's gellus.

Rupert: If there's a Survivor hex that keeps the car winners from winning the game, I'd love that. Then I'd win the million.

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42. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"

Rupert: If there's a Survivor hex that keeps the car winners from winning the game, I'd love that. Then I'd win the million.

Foreshadowing?

Rubert wins NOTHING!

*la La La la La Lala*


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21. "hey frisk!"
*headbutt* *butthead*

we're missing ya during your day-time hiatus. Glad you're here tonight!

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19. "2nd segment"
Rob: I wasn't discouraged by quote that anyone who won car hasn't won Survivor. It was worth it. You can't really show true emotion with everyone else standing there.

Movie is Lord of the Flies, that sort of inspired the show. (You have GOT to be kidding)
Amber ALSO gets a car!?!?!?! A Malibu Max.
Amber: OMG <click>
Rob: What's behind door #3 jeff?

Rob: Time alone with amber was unbelievable; first time I didn't have to think about game
Amber: Amazing first date--instead of flowers, he gave me a car.
Rob: Amber's a lot more special to me than when we started, but we're still playing game; I'm not going to forfeit million to anybody, including her

Back at camp:
Rupert--I hope they bring us food
Amber--you always feel guilty, but this time, there was a car. pretty rough. I had the choice to tell people, but I felt that holding that back wasn't me.
tom, jenna are not pleased. rupert at least says "very cool" to them
Rupert: they split up candy and KEPT THEIR SHARE! after eating all that food. I hope Survivor hex that keeps car winners from winning game. I would love that. That would be my own little justice.


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22. "RE: 2nd segment"
*commercial-break headbutt*
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23. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Day 36...wow, ANOTHER Rupert confessional.

gotta get the fish, bitching about Amber and Rob laying around.

Rupert to Tom: if you don't win immunity, you're gonna be fifth out.

Tom: unintelligible.

rupert: if you DO win immunity, are you gonna vote out you're worker or are you gonna vote Rob.

Tom: if we don't get Rob off, he's won.

Rob confessional: can't trust anybody. I instigated big Tom to start fight with rupert.

Rob: Rupert keeps sayin you wanna vote me out.

Tom: sounds drunk. Why would I change? If Rupert told you that, he's a lyin SOB.

Rob: I've been straight since the beginning. Day 1 or day 2, whatever it is.

Tom confronts Rupert. They bicker.

Rob: I did this to get them at each other throats so they wouldn't band together to get me and Amber off.

Rob's just standing there smiling.

Rupert confessional: Rob's plan to make me look bad. he's playing the game.

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25. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Immunity up for grabs!

It's a word puzzle. Survivor tribe names all scrambled up. They have to figure out names and then come up with some secret word or somethingorother.

"Liaison" isn't a past tribe name, is it?

Amber and Rob are in the lead, neck in neck.

They're all pretty close, no real front runners.

Amber's maintaining the lead. Must have Heidi-level IQ.

Amber only has one more word, then she has to scramble intersecting letters to get mystery word.

Amber has all words. Doing her scramble.

Boston Rob gets his word and scramble in close succession. Rob wins immunity!

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44. "Admit it"

Who saw that word puzzle and their first thought was, "Tom can't read!" ?

Anyone?
Anyone?

Just me?

Okay.



(please note that the boards weren't working for me when all this was actually going on)

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48. "RE: Admit it"
I didn't think it then but I did remember that when he wrote Jenna's name down and misspelled it.

I thought he learned how to read after being embarassed when he couldn't spell people's names in Africa?

Anyway I'm glad he's gone. I'm grew up in the south so I can understand people with a southern drawl but I couldn't understand 99% of what came out of his mouth. And the things that I could tell what he was saying didn't make any sense!

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67. "RE: Admit it"
I think he puts on that mumble thing. It isn't a real accent ( not one I have ever heard, I live in Texas and I am a Nascar fan). It's part of Big Toms plan to confuse.

He was playing them with the Dumb thing, or trying to.

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68. "RE: Admit it"
Bawstun Rohb lays it on a bit thick as well, intentionally in my opinion. It's the "redneck" strategy of how to be underestimated.

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71. "RE: Admit it"
I grew up in Texas!

I'm not convinced the mumbling was part of the playing dumb bit.

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79. "RE: Admit it"
I have an uncle from southeastern Missouri who talks just like big Tom. It could just be him, I don't think I ve understood 5 words out of my Uncle Buddy's mouth since the day I was born. ( yes that is his real name, and no my family tree does not make circles.
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90. "RE: Admit it"
You're very funny lilred! Are you new around here?
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53. "Amber, you moron"
Let's see... a word puzzle with 17 previous tribe names leading to one final big word.
Amber couldn't unscramble that?

Honestly, was I the only one shouting "CHABOGA-MOGO, you moron!"

Of course it only took Rob a few seconds to decipher.
He'd solved the final word before he found all the tribe names.

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54. "RE: Amber, you moron"
LOL. I was thinking the same thing. Do you think Amber might have lost on purpose so that Rob would have immunity?

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73. "RE: Amber, you moron"
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-04 AT 02:17 AM (EST)

YUP

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24. "3rd segment"
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Day 36
Rupert: First night with little sleep, little help. Makes me crazy to watch Rob & Amber sit on butts, then when challenge comes up, they have amazing energy
Rupert to Tom: We have to break that couple apart. Do you want to vote out only person providing food.

Tom: everyone is trying to change my mind. But I'm playing game too.
Rupert: If Tom joins Jen & Me, then we can get Rob & Amber out.

Rob: I don't trust Tom, so I wanted to instigate a fight between Tom and Rupert
Rob tells Tom that Rupert is saying Rob is out.
Tom: I ain't happy about this 5th grade tattle-tale stuff.
Rob tells Tom to confront Rupert, watches "two cats in a bag go at it"
In front of Rob, Rupert keeps asking Tom "did you or did you not say we need to get rob off?" (LOL--that's not exactly what he said; where is my mind?)

Rob--I hope that with them mad at each other, they won't get together and talk about voting me off
Rupert--I know this is all Rob playing the game.

Rob smiles and Rup and Tom continue arguing

Immunity Challenge:
Sun is out.
Word scramble. Find 17 tribe names from Survivor hidden in scramble, solve final word from intersecting letters

Jenna with early lead; no tied with Amber & Rob. Rob now has 6. Now tied with Amber with 7. Amber has 8. Rupert & Tom way behind. Amber has 10, now 11.
Amber 13, now 14, now 15. Rob closing in. (boy, this is boring to watch!)
Amber has all words, trying to find mystery word. Tom is at 15; he's caught up. Rob now has all. He has mystery word, Rob wins Immunity!

Rupert & Jenna don't look happy.

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28. "RE: 3rd segment"
Rupert...again.

"I wanna wear that damn necklace one more time before we leave."

Rob says he's being the diplomat, listening to what people say. Tom is apologizing for something.

Amber says Tom is scrambling.

Rob, Jenna, and Tom scheming about who they're gonna vote off.

Now Rob and Amber alone. Rob wants to flip a coin. Makes it look like they're trying to decide between Rupie and Jenna.

Rob confronts Tom. Wants honesty...have you or have you not tried to vote me off. Tom says absolutely not.

Tom says he's the swing vote. Amber says "NO! There is no swing vote! It's just us! There's no swing!" (Go girl)

Now they're trying to decide between Rupert and Jenna again. *sigh*

Amber says she can taste the money. It's a million dollars. It's gonna change our lives. She said OUR lives.

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45. "Swing Vote"
As soon as Tom said the words 'Swing Vote' he sealed his fate.

He didn't pass the loyalty to Romber test. The fact that he even considered himself a swing ( which he was) told them what they needed to know.

Is it me? Rob and Amber are playing the best alliance game since Hatch invented it.

Some of you may hate it, but I could never figure out why the original Tagi never booted Rich. They blindly followed him, and he took them to the final. Then he won. Sound familier?

Rob took the game to the next level, he out hatched Hatch.

If he loses it will be a shame.

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50. "RE: Swing Vote"
I agree. I think Rob has played a great game. He's made all the right moves. I kept thinking that I would have gotten rid of Rupert cause he's a stronger player than Tom. What you said makes sense. Now they'll get Jenna to vote off Rupert next.

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56. "Tom's mistake, and Romber's next move: The secret alliance."
You are absolutely right that Tom blew it with the words "swing vote."

Romber wanted to hear, "I'm with you guys no matter what. There's no swing in my vote."
That knife in his back was the one he used to cut his own throat.

But now... I wonder if Romber miscalculated, or if there is an unspoken alliance with Jenna. Because we sure do seem to have a 2-2 tie at the next TC.

Romber could have avoided that by keeping Tom and booting Rupert. Then Amber cuts a deal with Jenna while Rob reinforces the deal with Tom. The next TC, they flip the coin over which deal to honor.

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58. "RE: Tom's mistake, and Romber's next move: The secret alliance."
I can't remember if I saw this on the show or read it somewhere but I could swear that I heard Jenna had an alliance with Romber over Rupert. I'm thinking it was that episode where Amber, Rob and Jenna were all snuggling and Amber's confessional she said she wasn't jealous as long as it gets them to the final three cause she has it over Jenna with Rob.

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69. "RE: Tom's mistake, and Romber's next move: The secret alliance."
Jenna feels her first alliance is to Rob and Amber ( and I think Amber over Rob)

Jenna actually said her alliance was to Amber and Rob. I think Rupert was a good 4th vote to give them a strong voting block. She'll dump him in a second thought. She is smelling the Money. The money is final 3.

Jenna will drop Rupe.
The girl is irritating, she isn't stuipid.

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26. "Boston Rob can do everything"
It's really too bad if he doesn't win this game. He would be the most deserving winner ever, IMO. Which of course means he won't win. Which would really be too bad.
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37. "RE: Boston Rob can do everything"
I have to disagree strongly. Rob has ruled this game- no doubt. However, he does not deserve to win and WILL NOT win- Especially if he has screwed every single person on the jury to get there. That is the ultimate trick in Survivor. You have to get to the finals without having stabbed the jury in the back. There is not ONE person who is sitting on that jury that Rob did not stab in the back.

Yeah, he played the game. He played it well. But he will NOT win. You can not get there with all the lies he told and expect people to actually vote for you. Amber has it in the cards.

I am hoping that I am wrong and Rupert walks away with it all....

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49. "RE: Boston Rob can do everything"
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-04 AT 00:59 AM (EST)

He can win.
Rob can win, and he just might pull it off. He has played one of the best games ever.
Of course he deserves to win.
Why not? Because you don't like him?

He played them all, but not only that, he kept winning Immunity for his tribe so they never had to vote out their members. He built the best shelter, he kept them fed ( winning rewards).
Since they started playing for individual immunity Rob has kicked it up.

So he doesn't deserve to win more than who? Rupert? I love Rupe!
Rupert drowned his tribe with the worst shelter ever, they lost challenges. Rupert screwed over his first alliance in the game ( Rudy). Rob has stayed loyal ( as you can in this game) with his final 4 .

Was Lex more worthy?
Who played the game better than Rob?
When it all comes down to it, Lex and Kathy and Shiann would have axed him in a second. So they are nicer people?
They would have done the same if they had any power.

Maybe nice guys do win. I think Rob is a nice guy.

(edit to say - I wasn't addressing anyone specifically, just everyone who thinks Rob hasn't played the game correctly. No offense intended to anyone)

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81. "RE: Boston Rob can do everything"
"Rupert screwed over his first alliance in the game ( Rudy)."

How? Rupert voted for Ethan.

From the Insider Transcript:

Rupert (votes Ethan): Ethan you're tough. Rudy and I made a pact and I am not voting for Rudy. Gotta vote for you, Ethan.

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60. "RE: Boston Rob can do everything"
Well, actually, he didn't stab Shii Ann in the back, or Kathy for that matter, and if he can get Rupert and Jenna on the jury having only promised them F4 (a promise he has now actually kept) that's four votes he might be able to get, just enough to win. I don't think he's played the game to lose, and even though I don't care for some of the things he's done he has managed to control the game this season, he could deservedly win if he makes F2.
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64. "RE: Boston Rob can do everything"
dabo,

Do you think he can win if all 16 All Stars get to vote on who wins the million (see the 'sue is the big surprise' thread for my reasons for thinking this)?

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72. "The 16 vote"
Ummm Rabbit?
I hate to say this,because I like your posts; BUT, your 16 vote final thing? Not gonna happen. Not this season anyway ( and doubtful EVER)

It a formula show, with a few twists, but always the basic formula is going to stay the same.

I know you like the 16 vote thing, but it ain't gonna happen. There is also no evidence even suggesting this is gonna happen.

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74. "RE: The 16 vote"
So the reasons I gave you in the Sue thread (Tina, Jiffy's pause in the teleconference, the Argentina vacations, etc.) didn't convince you?

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77. "RE: The 16 vote"
Nope, it didn't convince me at all, either. They're not going to mess with the tried and true Survivor jury system -- and especially to have an even number. No way they'd take a chance on having a tie and resorting to any kind of a tie-breaker for $1 mil.


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78. "RE: The 16 vote"
I've pretty much gotten beyond putting anything down as something MB wouldn't try to pull, but there are a couple of major problems with the 16 jury scenario. The potential tie has been mentioned. Also, this would have players voting (no matter who the F2 are) on the merits of players they never spent any time in the game with. The biggie, though, would be having that much uncertain unedited time eaten up on live TV; even if MB wanted to try it, CBS might nix it just because of how long it would take. It just doesn't seem feasable. Interesting concept, though.
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84. "RE: The 16 vote"
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-04 AT 02:52 PM (EST)

dabo, I've explained this in other threads but here it is. I respect your opinion so let me know what you think.

The kept the booted AS in Argentina. They were show only tribal council footage. After they watched the last tribal council they cast their votes. It would take a little longer to read 16 votes than 7 but not a whole lot. The tie breaker could go to the person who won the final immunity. This would make the final immunity even more important. No pulling a Hatch and dropping out early.

Jeff said this morning on the View that the surprise affects how the game of survivor is played. Drivemycar said that it's a formula show and they're not going to change the formula yesterday when I first brought this up. Jeff's comments lead me to believe that the surprise is going to be a big change to how the game is played which fits with my scenario.

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87. "RE: The 16 vote"
So, do only the 7 members in the traditional jury get to make their speeches/questions to the finalists or do all 16 get to be involved in your scenario of a 16-member jury?

That simply would not work -- either it wouldn't be completely fair for only these 7 to get to say something while the other 9 don't ... or it'd be too lengthy to show each of the 16 jurists asking questions or doing their rat-and-snakes (not to mention mind-numbingly BORING).

Jiffy did say "here's the three members of the jury" last week instead of "here's the jury or here's some of the jury" when they walked into TC. He also said "first member of the jury" when Lex was booted.

Logistically and logically, it simply does not work or make sense.


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88. "RE: The 16 vote"
If it were done as you say, that would have MB first letting unedited footage leave his total control, and second facing the prospect of a potential tie vote having to be broken somehow on unedited live television. MB hates ties, and he hates for his secrets to get out of his control. He's foremost about making TV spectacle, so he would take any risk if he can achieve that result. But a very drastic change in Survivor would mean convincing CBS, pitching it to CBS. Hollywood is very predictable, if you have a formula that works you don't mess with it.
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93. "RE: The 16 vote"
I don't think it would involve unedited footage leaving MB's control. The sequestered AS would only see the footage that MB chose to let them see. It would only be TC footage in my scenario. They do edit the TC footage for television but we don't see anything that the jury didn't see.

My scenario is that they don't bring in anyone but the jury for the final TC and the jury members are the only ones asking the questions. The other AS would watch it on tape and cast their vote before they leave for home.

I'm sure MB counts the votes shortly after they are cast. If there was an 8 - 8 tie he could just decide not to do it. In the future (if this is the change to the show that JP indicates) they could make the final immunity challenge the tie breaker. This would make the FIC even more important. Not only does that person get to pick who goes to the final 2 with them but it would mean they would be the winner in the event that the votes are tied at the live reveal. This would also discourage someone from pulling a Hatch and dropping out of the FIC early.

I'm not usually this convinced of something but I just have this strong feeling that I'm at least partly correct. They've promised a surprise that's guaranteed to shock everyone. JP said that it is something about the way the game is played. What else could it be? I have not heard or read anything anywhere that changes my mind. The only other thing that it could be is that it has something to do with the CBS poll and that in the future the viewing public will have some say in who gets the money (or something like that). After what's happen on AI this season, I'm not crazy about that idea either.

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94. "RE: The 16 vote"
Well, here's to you being at least "partly correct" then! At least we can hope MB came up with something to encourage players to give it their all. Personally, I'm hoping there's some sort of poll of the live audience (a la Who Wants to Be a Millionaire) but I won't be surprised if it doesn't happen.
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29. "et tu brute?"
Julius Caeser as Jesus Christ...

Tom's good at history

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35. "Duh!"
Reckon that's why it's called the Roman Catholic Church.

Survivor done learned me sumpin tonight!

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51. "RE: Duh!"
Yep. Dat Toms a big learn-ed type person.

I looked at my Hubby and said, " Did he say Peter? Did he mean Judus? Did Peter and Brutus have something to do with this? Do you think Tom's drunk?"

(Because I look to my hubby for all things bibical)

Hubby shook his head and beat my Zuma score.

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66. "RE: Duh!"
I thought he said Peter too. But then I thought my mind was playing tricks on me and I just imagined it, then I remembered that it came out of Tom''s mouth.

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75. "RE: Duh!"
I don't know why I'm standing up for Tom, but he was correct when he made the comment about Jesus and Peter.

Jesus told Peter that he would deny him three times before the cock crowed.

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76. "RE: Duh!"
*waves to Naked*

Hi! Nice to see you again!

( Duh, that Bible story stuff always confuses me. I am sure I have no clue, no matter what Tom actually said. I plead total ignorance)



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30. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
TC - Everyone feels the suspicion and paranoia.

Amber says again - I can smell the money. The jury's eyes roll (can you say editing?)

Rob - people are getting caught in lies.

amber basing her vote on her gut for the first time in the game. It's the only thing she trusts.

Tom says if he's voted off, et tu Brute.

Voting. Rob says "You're welcome for carrying you this far."

Votes:

Genna
Tom
Tommy
Big Tom

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31. "4th segment"
mood shot: crabs
Rob: having necklace is precarious if they all vote Amber off. I don't know if they realize that.
Tom apologizes to Rob
Amber, Rob, Tom discuss who to vote off.
Jenna--I've trusted in this alliance with Rob & Amber. It's held up since Day 12. Something must be wrong.

Rob to Tom: let's be honest for one time. Have or have you not tried to mark me to get me out of game. Tom: I have not.
Rob: If we take out Jenna, do we take out Rupert next? Tom: I don't know. (stupid, stupid. Say YES, Tom)
Tom: you make up mind for me.
They agree on Jenna

Amber: I hate this decision. Tonight's TC is going to be ugliest yet.

Tribal Council:
Jury: Lex, Kathy, Alicia, Shii
Rupert: Things were not peaceful, alliances are being tested
Amber: Suspicion is huge; today I sensed it the worst. I'm very stressed. i can smell the money, it's so close.
jenna: All you can do is worry about game; it's everything
Rob: it will always come down to this in the end; people will be playing harder than others, people are getting caught in lies. I'm happy to wear necklace
Amber: I'm voting competely with my gut, for first time. It's the only thing I trust.
Tom: If i'm betrayed, I don't have to live with it, because I get to sit in jury.
Jenna: 36 days isn't good enough. I came to win
Rob doesn't give up immunity

Time to vote:
Rob (vote not shown): pony ride's over. Your welcome for carrying ya this far.
No other votes or speeches shown.

Tally:
Jenna, Tom, Tommy, Tom

Tom looks back and stares daggers at Rob. Rob stares back.

Jiffy: you've made it to final four, it is clearly anybody's game

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32. "Next time, on survivor"
see the "final four" spoiler thread--it's all there
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33. "Tom's final speech"
powue weoiu oweiupw p wpoir wp eproi wwep piu epwoiue wiu plk;jad poiuj

(something about two knives in his back, if you can live with it, blah blah blah)

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05-06-04, 11:47 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Tom's final speech"
Huh....You must speak perfect Elizabethian English to make such a culturally biased statement as that. I understood Tom perfectly. If you didn't, you need to come out of that damn shell you are living in and realize that there is a BIG world out there. Many different languages and dialects. Evidently, you have not clued into this concept yet...Get off that horse your riding and wake up. One dialect is not superior to another- if you don't "understand" it- then buy a damn dictionary.

Think twice before you bash someone because of an accent....

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43. "RE: Tom's final speech"
Xb,

Don't be too hard on that poster. I think it was fed by the actual episode where the fact that Rob (and Rupert in one scene) can't understand Tom. It was kindof a running thing in the episode (and this thread).

I did understand his final speech easily. But earlier in the episode when he was talking to Rob. No clue. And I am open minded and can understand most people with different accents.

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55. "RE: Tom's final speech"
Actually this happens to be a thread that Loves and Bashes the Survivor contestants in equal measure.

We Love Tom, we Hate Tom.

Gee, earlier in this thread you bashed a contestant you didn't like.

Most don't dislike Tom. Heck , I'd invite him for dinner. That doesn't mean we won't Bash any and all reality Tv contestants. It is what we do. ( and someday someone is going to offer to pay us for it)

And if you can understand that guy, why have you not been translating all season? We could have used that talent.

Oh, and while we are on the subject of understanding Tom? How come when he was arguing with Rupert, he all of a sudden spoke clearly? For the first time all season he was totally clear.
Maybe he was faking the the mush mouth idgit all season?

No disrepect to people with Southern accents, but I live in the South and I couldn't understand the guy.

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57. "RE: Tom's final speech"
Bashing is allowed on the EC threads, in fact sometimes it is encouraged. We've all got different accents, nothing wrong with that, but Big Tom speak is often hilarious and incomprehensible even if you recognize all the words.
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59. "Whistle!!"
Read the guidelines.

Bashing the contestants is perfectly legitimate.
Bashing the other posters is not.



Bashin sumbuddy caws a da accent? Fugghedaboutit!

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80. "Warning"
>Huh....You must speak perfect Elizabethian English to make such a culturally
>biased statement as that.

>If you didn't, you need to come out of that damn shell you are living in

>Evidently, you have not clued into this concept yet...Get off that horse your riding and wake up.

>if you don't "understand" it- then buy a damn dictionary.

>Think twice before you bash someone because of an accent....

Xtremeblonde, this is a SERIOUS violation of the guidelines. With the exception of shakes the clown (who has "grandfathered" permission to do so), we do not permit any bashing of other posters.

Do not do it again.

Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.

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85. "RE: Warning"
Good rule! My apologies to the board and poster.
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89. "RE: Warning"
My apologies to the board and poster.
Apology accepted. And no worries--I have fairly thick skin.

Want to hear something funny? I teach English--including Shakespeare. LOL!

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91. "RE: Warning"
I actually wrote you a much longer personal apology on the basher board. I hope you will read that as well. It is quite humorous that you teach English! I am sure you can find plenty of fragments, misspellings, and etc in my posts! LOL! Again, thank you for being gracious despite my original post. It says a lot about your character!!!! Thanks.

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92. "RE: Warning"
I saw that response on Bashers before I saw this reply--and I think it says a lot about YOUR character to apologize not once but twice. As for the English thing, I promise not to grammar-watch your posts if you promise the same for mine!

Also? Check your PM. (That's a Personal Message--if you go to the lobby of a board, you'll find a little red waving flag up by where it says "Conferences"--click on the flag.)

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82. "RE: Tom's final speech"
Oh, please, get off your high horse. You'll give yourself a nosebleed at that altitude.
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86. "RE: Tom's final speech"
LOL! You are probably right!
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36. "KEEP THE INFO HERE!"
don't keep starting new threads, folks! This one has plenty of room for growth .


Miscellaneous Ramblings
--Tom=moron

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38. "Tom is an idiot - and voting comment"
I thought I saw a thread started from Big Tom Fan who was saying that Tom is an idiot. That thread disappeared. So I have to post this little message.

Tom is an idiot. In other threads many thought Tom was playing a great / cagey game. I agreed. I think this episode put that issue to rest.

And due to Tom's instigated fight and how he talked to Rob and Amber, everyone HAD to vote him out. Jenna and Rupert couldn't trust that he would really be voting with them to get off Amber, therefore they had to vote against him. And Tom pointed out that Rob made himself a target in a threatening way. Although Rob could have talked to Tom to get Rupert or Jenna out, because of that discussion, he would not have been 100% certain of it. It would be interesting to see/hear the discussions between Rupert, Rob, Amber and Jenna to vote Rob off. It never amazes me (especially after seeing this episode and the overheard conversation) that a group ends up trusting each other and sticks with their decision.

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61. "RE: Tom is an idiot - and voting comment"
I think it has to do with the lack of sleep, food ,the close quarters, culture deprivation etc. The game at its core is an experiment of society. Simple and complex.

Take away all comforts, then reward certain comforts. Make loyalty and teamwork important, then take it away. Work together to the same goal, as you work against each other.

Always your survival depends on others; others that you are planning to remove in the future.

Again I will say that Tom's biggest mistake, was telling Amber and Rob that he knew he was a "swing" vote.

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83. "RE: Tom is an idiot - and voting comment"
Again I will say that Tom's biggest mistake, was telling Amber and Rob that he knew he was a "swing" vote.

Absolutely correct, Buggy. It was tantamount to Christy in S6 being noncommittal to Rob C -- and then saying at TC that she had the "power". Instead, she was toast.


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52. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Wasn't the jury a joy to watch tonight as well!

MohawkLex: Looks of incredulity, looks of disbelief, shaking head.
Shii and Kathy: chatting, nodding.
Alicia: Ms. Angry.

Finally, something to really look forward to, a typical Survivor jury for the finale.

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63. "RE: *** S8 - EP14 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Jury looks hostile now.
They'll be sad kittens on Sunday.
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