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"ShiAnn's Big problem"
esquire 1095 desperate attention whore postings
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04-23-04, 04:20 PM (EST)
 
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"ShiAnn's Big problem" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-23-04 AT 04:33 PM (EST)I think that I am the only person thinking that each of the remaining contestants are playing well. They each have a strategy to get to the end of the game. Most of the strategies will not work, but they all are following a logical game plan. Tom believes he is in an alliance of 3 with Rob/Amber and that they are putting one over on Jenna/Rupert. His strategy seems to be to knock out SHiAnn and then Rupert and Jenna to get to the final 3. He is doing that without insulting anyone or creating enemies. Once in the Final 3, he hopes to with the last immuniuty challenge. Alternatively, he can give Jenna/Rupert his vote to knock out Rob/Amber once they get to 5. Rupert/Jenna believe they are part of a final 4 alliance with Rob/Amber and that they have a close 2 person alliance with each other. This is clear from there comments as well as from Ruperts choices when he wins Reward challenges. They also believe they are putting one over on Tom by allowing him to believe he is the final 3 with Ramber. They hope to get rid of SA and Then Tom. Then they seem to hope to want to take on Ramber in the final 4. Amber/Rob are part of a close 2 person alliance. In fact, they may be the closest alliance since Rudy and Rich. They seem to be unsure of whether they want to take Tom to the Final 3 or Jenna/Rupert to the Final 4, but are allowing each of them to believe that they are lying to the others. Whichever they decide, they want to take each other to the final 2 Even Alicia was persuing a logical strategy. She thought she was part of a 4 person alliance with her original tribe. This has been known to get people to the end of the game. Then she hoped to join with Tom to take on Rob/Amber. Each of these people have looked at the people they have been living with for a long time and has made up there minds on who to trust and who not to trust. The reason SA can't get anyone to deal with her is that everyone thinks they are already have a plan to get to the end of the game without SA, so they don't need her vote. They have no incentive to break up their existing alliances. None of the remasining contestants (other than SA) believe their head will be on the chopping block if they don't deal with SA. That is SA's big problem and why she hasn't been able to make any deals and probably won't go any further in the game.
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JohnMc 2679 desperate attention whore postings
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04-23-04, 05:37 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: ShiAnn's Big problem" |
Rob has played his cards to have a loose alliance with all his tribemates. He even had some "arrangement" with Lex and Kathy, that he denies and ultimately betrayed. The only one he didn't have one with was Shii Ann. So Shii is definitely against a wall.You listed the following alliances Rob/Amber
Jenna/Rupert
Rob/Amber/Jenna/Rupert
Rob/Tom
Tom/Rupert So this little house of cards will fall apart if Shii wins IC again, which I don't think is likely if it is physical. If so, though, then the odd man out is really Tom. He would have to play his card with either Romber or Jupert PLUS take in Shii Ann in order to stick around. Without it, though, Shii knows she's a goner.
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings
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04-23-04, 09:50 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: ShiAnn's Big problem" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-23-04 AT 09:50 PM (EST)But how you feel about somebody shouldn't dictate your gameplay with them. I wish "All-Stars" had begun filming ~after~ Pearl Islands had finished showing, when this issue was dealt with and resolved. Hell, in PI, once it got down to six, nobody truly trusted (or liked) anyone else all that much and everyone was still willing to make the sacrifices necessary to get to the end. I'm most concerned with Tom right now (Partially because I will never expect any strategy to come out of Rupert. Ever.). He needs to make a move ~right now~. If he waits and tries to be the swing vote, as it seems he's going to, he can only be guaranteed 3rd place either way. After voting off the other misfit, he's the only one left without someone to fall back on for a vote. He needs to work with Shii Ann or he'll lose, plain and simple. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen.  
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Loquatrix 640 desperate attention whore postings
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04-24-04, 11:59 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: ShiAnn's Big problem" |
I tend to think so, kokoro. But then, I don't think there's a real alternative for Rupert at this point.I feel like I saw him being fairly sympathetic to Shii Ann in this week's episode, as though there might be a possibility for her to persuade him that he's playing for fourth place and to try something new. But Shii is one of the few people who've beaten Rupert head to head in a challenge, and thus I wouldn't blame him for thinking he has a better chance of beating Jenna in a Final 4/Final 3 immunity challenge than he has of beating Shii. He's going forward with the "Final 4 then every man for himself" scenario because this is actually an ideal scenario for a player like Rupert. It may well look like he's playing for fourth, but of all the players in the game, Rupert is the one who really does stand a fighting chance of winning those last crucial immunities. As a player of the "straightforward" variety, a plan of action that relies on long-standing alliance promises plus challenge ability, as Rupert's does, is the best possible one for him. There's a comfort level for him with the "honesty" of this approach that I think is key to his ability to focus on the game. If he can get the immunities, then he's well placed to win the game. If he loses immunity at Final 4, he's out. However, he only has to rely on himself for the outcome of those challenge, which -- for someone like Rupert -- is probably a lot easier to manage, mentally, than the concept of having to negotiate to stay alive. While Rupert is as flawed as anybody else out there, he's playing the perfect game for him. This is why, if the others are paying attention, they should boot Rupert next week or at 5th place over Shii and Tom. As much as Rombuh don't want to end up with three loose cannons (Shii, Tom, Jenna) who might see the light and boot one of Rombuh whereas Jupert would probably NOT swing against them, I'm not sure the three loose cannons WOULD get together. Tom thinks he's F3 with Rombuh, and so does Jenna. With Shii still around to boot off at 5th, both of them are still on track for that and again it just comes down to immunity at Final 4. Everyone sticking with their various Rombuh-based plans may be boring for us to watch, but I think any of them would be nuts to change their game plan at this point. That train left the station when they booted Kathy.
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Loquatrix 640 desperate attention whore postings
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04-25-04, 04:48 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: ShiAnn's Big problem" |
I would love a Rupert and Tom final 2, not just because I have a soft spot for Rupert, but also because it would mean we had NOT actually spoiled the entire season before it even began. I would really love it if MB turns out to have put such a good one over on us. I just don't hold out much hope for that. :/
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings
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04-26-04, 11:07 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: ShiAnn's Big problem" |
I respectfully disagree. They all have a strategy of getting to the end game with Rob and Amber and then taking them on.Yes, but what I mean, esq, is that Rupert, Tom and Jenna have all attached themselves to two people that they know (or SHOULD know) would never vote each other out. That puts each of them in third place automatically unless they can win the final immunity. It's stupid to align yourself with an inseparable twosome for the endgame, especially when one is a person like Rob who's been winning most of the challenges. Sure, all the challenges may not be physical, but you can't count on that. Maybe they really do think there is a possibility Romber would turn on each other. But regardless, they should get rid of one of them pronto. 
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esquire 1095 desperate attention whore postings
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04-26-04, 11:54 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: ShiAnn's Big problem" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-26-04 AT 04:51 PM (EST)>Yes, but what I mean, esq,
>is that Rupert, Tom and
>Jenna have all attached themselves
>to two people that they
>know (or SHOULD know) would
>never vote each other out.
> That puts each of
>them in third place automatically
>unless they can win the
>final immunity. As far as Jenna/Rupert are concerned, they seem to think of themselves (or should be thinking of themselves) as an equally strong 2-some. Then when it gets to the final 4, they have just as good a chance as Rob/Amber of being part of a 3-some where they would never vote each other out. Also, the final 4 IC is not necessarily a physical challenge that only Rob can win. I would also add that Rupert performs pretty well at physical challenge and has a chance to beat Rob at it, if the final 4 IC is a physical challenge. This seems a pretty good strategy to me. If they broke up the Rob/Amber alliance, then their alliance would be next target of the remaining contestants. As far as Tom is concern, he seems to be betting he can win a final 3 immunity challenge. Again it might not be a physical challenge and even if it is, he is a pretty strong guy. He also still has the alternative of being the swing vote when their are 5 left and joining Rupert/Jenna. Either way, I think that all of them are curerently pursuing logical strategies for the end game. There are no Jans or Ambers (the Australian version) still in the game
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