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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 03-26-04, 03:14 PM (EST) "Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" LAST EDITED ON 03-26-04 AT 03:16 PM (EST) I just wanted to revisit Jeff V's spoilers and then throw out a few theories, because I do think that it's possible that these spoilers could hold the key to the next couple of episodes. Jeff's website is down, but in order to refresh your memory, you may read all of it here: http://www.survivornews.net/news.php?id=588 It's interesting to me, that already almost everything that has been talked about has already taken place. There are little post-merge spoilers in this. Several people have speculated that his source was various castmembers--some thought Alicia since the two are close. I believe it's Kathy. Kathy was one of three players to witness to every single event that Jeff V. talked about. But it was her comments about Colby not being part of the team on the 3/10 episode that sealed her being the "source" for me. So let's look at the remaining spoilers from a Kathy perspective: History! This game was not meant to be played by people who know each other, apparently. All of these contestants (from their games or from their out-of-game relationships) have a ton of baggage and history with one another. This dirt becomes very public as the contestants use it in order to disarm their threats. Look for the Robfather to continue his strategy of "creating loyalty through fear." I'm told his strategy was to rummage through potential contestant closets, find their skeletons and store them in his back pocket, ready for war. Though not the only one, he crossed the ethical line the most. **Who would be able to analyze how the Robfather played the first time? Kathy? Now the question is--did Kathy see enough of Rob M's strategy when she went over to visit Chapera twice? Or does Rob M get switched to Mogo Mogo this week? Maybe Kathy makes the merge? In either case, Kathy will see Rob M. in action before his boot. Once again contestant loved ones make the journey to the Survivor set to participate in a challenge. After arriving, one popular Survivor's loved one was promptly sent home, I hear. Tough way to learn your favorite Survivor was voted off the night before, huh? The loved ones were apparently grilled about their ability to run, swim and dive prior to arriving. I'm anticipating family members fighting for their loved ones' immunity, in a very physical challenge. But this info is sketchy, so I could be wrong. **Now why would this information be sketchy? Because Jeff's source was already voted out and is witnessing this from Loser Lodge. She knows that the loved ones were flown in--possibly except for one (hers). Then she sees the loved ones being grilled, and can only speculate that it's for a challenge. The last 3 seasons of Survivor, CBS has brought in the family reward challenge at the same time--Episode 11. This coming week will be Episode 9. That to me, says that Kathy has to be a near lock to go this week or next week. Either she is booted this week and watches the family members fly in and one fly out during the next 3 days. Or Kathy is voted out in episode 10, and she is the unlucky person who just misses her family member because Patrick just flew back home. The only other people who witnessed all of the Jeff V. spoilers were Lex and Shii Ann.   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... FarmBoy 03-26-04 1  RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... Brownroach 03-26-04 2    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... DRONES 03-29-04 11        RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... PepeLePew13 03-29-04 13            RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... dabo 03-29-04 14  RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... tribephyl 03-26-04 3  RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... yensid 03-26-04 4    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... Crash Thompson Jr 03-26-04 5    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... Sneezles 03-26-04 6    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... tribephyl 03-26-04 7        RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... ivoryElephant 03-26-04 8            RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... udg 03-27-04 9                RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... Flowerpower 03-27-04 10                    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... Krautboy 03-29-04 12  RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... managerr 03-29-04 15    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... dabo 03-29-04 16    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... Brownroach 03-29-04 17  RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... yensid 03-31-04 18    RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoile... Crash Thompson Jr 04-01-04 19

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FarmBoy 2618 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 03-26-04, 03:44 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" Good work managerr. I've been wondering how the Kathy/Lex/Shii Ann alliance would play out. Bovinated BR549- An Original Draco Masterpiece Your WSC3 SR Winner   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-26-04, 04:50 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" I'm glad you came back to this, managerr. Most people were assuming Jeff got his info from Alicia, but there are things here that Alicia wouldn't be in a position to comment on, like Colby and especially Ethan's hissy fit. It seems like the primary source was someone who was on Mogo Mogo. Overall, though, I'm getting more of a Lex feel than a Kathy feel from the comments. Jeff says he and Lex are friends. I could definitely see Lex bringing up the Ethan hissy fit and saying it would embarrass Ethan, after his vote speech about wondering if Ethan could "lose with dignity." Also the comments about the Robfather I'd expect more from Lex than from Kathy. I also like the idea that the loved one info came from the actual contestant whose loved one was flown down and turned around. It doesn't seem like something Jeff would mention otherwise, since it's a standard occurrence in the game.   Top

DRONES 615 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 03-29-04, 04:42 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" "PRETTY BOY POUT I've been told to look for a major pissy diva temper tantrum thrown by Africa winner Ethan Zohn. I'm told he will be very embarrassed at his behavior when America sees it." I'm not really seeing this. Was this an exageration by Varner or his source? Someone who happens to not like Ethan all that much? DRONES   Top

PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-29-04, 07:51 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" I think Ethan DID have a hissy fit and the Varenr source was someone like Lex (or Kathy) who told him what had happened in the expectation that MB would show it -- but then this was edited out. Why? Perhaps MB realized there's enough drama going on with the Rich-Soozin kerfuffle and JennaM's departure that he didn't need to make another winner look bad. It all fits with Lex's comment, along the lines of "I hope you leave with grace and dignity" (whatever Lex said while showing the vote for Ethan).   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-29-04, 10:24 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" KObrien_fan reported that Kathy confirmed the hissy fit, Ethan was miffed and tossing things around camp and stuff after Lex let him know he was going bye-bye but it's just business and stuff.   Top

tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-26-04, 05:13 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" The last 3 seasons of Survivor, CBS has brought in the family reward challenge at the same time--Episode 11. This coming week will be Episode 9. That to me, says that Kathy has to be a near lock to go this week or next week. Either she is booted this week and watches the family members fly in and one fly out during the next 3 days. Or Kathy is voted out in episode 10, and she is the unlucky person who just misses her family member because Patrick just flew back home. My only problem, with the above stated is that this season they had 18 people to start off with. Not 16. The episode number has less to do with this spoiler. The castaway count is the key. As you said, traditionally the "familyvisit" happens in episode 11. That is when there are 6 castaways left. This edition will whittle down to 6 castaways in episode 13(14 if you count the re-crap). Not episode 11. If Kathy is the source, then she probably does not get to visit with her family member. This does not mean she has to leave in the next 2 episodes. More like the next 4. But you can call me tribe. S7ABCABP Winner "I just had to get those guys comfortable riding the big banana. And they did." King Dicque(RIP)   Top

yensid 786 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 03-26-04, 05:18 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" OK. I don't remember where I read it, but someone once stated that it was Lex's wife that was supposed to make the trip down for the family visit, but at the last minute she was canceled. I will look for the post.   Top

Crash Thompson Jr 63 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-26-04, 05:23 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" I remember that as well.   Top

Sneezles 114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-26-04, 05:42 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" LAST EDITED ON 03-26-04 AT 05:46 PM (EST) It was on the Sucks spoiler board. Lex's wife was supposed to go and was turned around. ETA: I can also see it being Lex as the source b/c of his and Rob M.'s rumored friendship outside the game. Maybe this is where we get the "skeleton's" coming out. Everyone thought it was going to be Rob and Ethan, but it could be Rob and Lex that have the problems.   Top

tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-26-04, 05:52 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" Here is the LINK if anyone is interested. The original poster never came back to help verify. The topic has subsequently tangented into a discussion of April Fools Day. Don't know if it's true. But neither did the original poster. But you can call me tribe. S7ABCABP Winner "I just had to get those guys comfortable riding the big banana. And they did." King Dicque(RIP)   Top

ivoryElephant 2257 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 03-26-04, 07:17 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" I am confident that KO makes merge. a little birdy told me. and this isn't like any other spec or birdy spoiler. this is a reliable source "I've been thinking about it, but the suns gone down, I don't have much time "-Kathy O'Brien   Top

udg 3381 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-27-04, 03:00 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" Even without your birdy, we also had those pictures of KO in a blue buff. I've been flying with the ASSumption that she makes the merge ever since then. (But I had predicted F4 before that.) --- UDG   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-27-04, 07:55 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" LAST EDITED ON 03-27-04 AT 07:58 AM (EST) Well, let's talk about the merge. Was'nt it reported that the merge occured with 10 Survivors left and that they all went to live on Saboga or Mogo???....well, that should be this week, what the heck is going on with this switch and will they be merged by the end of the cycle, for episode 9? I'd say KO is definately safe this week, but if the merge occurs this week, or perhaps next she may indeed be headed for trouble before the next 3-4 episodes....sure hope not! Would love to see KO make the final four!   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 03-29-04, 06:40 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" The SNN Spy Report mentioned a merge at 10 on Saboga, but the "spy" (local with binoculars?) also reported the merge color to be yellow. Since the original report, we have learned the merge color is blue. It's very likely there is a merge and that the merge location is Saboga, but beyond that the reliability of the information seems a bit shaky... Krautboy   Top

managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 03-29-04, 11:25 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" Thanks for responding everyone. I had no idea that Jeff and Lex were close, and you've convinced me that Lex is more likely to be Jeff's source than Kathy. I guess we need to try and figure out from the Episode Titles when the Family visit will be. If it is Episode 13 (as pointed out there are 2 more episodes this season), the a Lex exit could be Episode 12.   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-29-04, 04:20 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" Family Visit has become an endgame challenge, MB uses it to psyche the players that are left to remember why they are there.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-29-04, 04:40 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" FWIW, Snewser All-Star Spy Report says: The Family Visit Challenge is back as well. Look for it towards the usual F6 placement. "Towards" probably means give or take one episode. In S7 it came when seven people were left, which would be Ep 12 this time around.   Top

yensid 786 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 03-31-04, 11:57 AM (EST) 18. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" Didn't know where else to put this, but SNN now has a report that Varner has been banned from the A$$ finale because of his reports on DicqueGate. I would also assume that this is why his website is no longer available and no further updates ever were posted by Jeff. I have his AOL id and have IM'd with him a few times after his first two insights to A$$ but I haven't even seen him online in a couple of weeks. Interesting.   Top

Crash Thompson Jr 63 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 04-01-04, 10:21 AM (EST) 19. "RE: Revisiting Jeff Varner's Spoilers (Kathy gone soon theory)" Poor guy.   Top

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