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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-17-04, 11:18 PM (EST) "VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 13 - 24 - 25 - 26 - 27   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    Two New Tribes of 5? Krautboy 03-18-04 1    RE: Two New Tribes of 5? tribephyl 03-18-04 3    RE: Two New Tribes of 5? dreamerbeliever 03-18-04 4  RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... pinay_racer 03-18-04 2    amber in danger? nicholas 03-18-04 5        RE: amber in danger? pmspml5 03-18-04 6        RE: amber in danger? JohnMc 03-18-04 14        RE: amber in danger? tommiettop 03-18-04 49    RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... oddglass2 03-18-04 7        RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... Krautboy 03-18-04 8            RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... Magic Fingers 03-18-04 9            RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... oddglass2 03-18-04 11            RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... Dalton 03-18-04 41    RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... Loree 03-18-04 12  Body paint tommiettop 03-18-04 10    RE: Body paint Brownroach 03-18-04 13        They all (Chappy's) have paint nclady27583 03-19-04 69    RE: Body paint raidersfantom 03-18-04 15  Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on ... shakes the clown 03-18-04 16    RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up... Brownroach 03-18-04 17        the mystery elbow shakes the clown 03-18-04 25            RE: the mystery elbow Brownroach 03-18-04 31            RE: the mystery elbow Boo on the Line 03-19-04 56                You made me look... Brownroach 03-19-04 57                    RE: You made me look... Boo on the Line 03-19-04 60                        RE: You made me look... atimberger1 03-19-04 65                        RE: You made me look... emydi 03-19-04 66                        RE: You made me look... VolcanicGlass 03-19-04 77                            RE: You made me look... Brownroach 03-19-04 78    RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up... abbahammer 03-18-04 18    RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up... rupe_a_dupe_rules 03-18-04 19        RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up... Brownroach 03-18-04 21    RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up... oddglass2 03-18-04 20    RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up... ElroyJetson 03-18-04 22        RE: Was the flag moved? kinglepore 03-18-04 24            RE: Was the flag moved? Brat2u 03-18-04 27                RE: Was the flag moved? KObrien_fan 03-18-04 45                    Jenna with Flag Brat2u 03-19-04 58        RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up... spacey 03-18-04 26    I Disagree Shakes idiotcowboy 03-18-04 32        RE: I Disagree Shakes Brownroach 03-18-04 34            RE: I Disagree Shakes Magic Fingers 03-18-04 37    I agree, but not because of the pic... udg 03-19-04 80    RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up... Charonna 03-20-04 83  Is that all we get? okaloosajohn 03-18-04 23    RE: Is that all we get? Sneezles 03-18-04 28        RE: Is that all we get? okaloosajohn 03-18-04 29  The Clown is S-M-R-T raidersfantom 03-18-04 30    Switch VerucaSalt 03-18-04 33        RE: Switch Brownroach 03-18-04 35            RE: Switch Avid Fan 03-22-04 98        you're right shakes the clown 03-18-04 36            RE: you're right kinglepore 03-18-04 38            RE: you're right VerucaSalt 03-18-04 39                RE: you're right Brownroach 03-18-04 42                    RE: you're right VerucaSalt 03-18-04 43                    He's also facing the same way survivornut 03-21-04 94            RE: you're right cyrilsneer 03-18-04 48            RE: you're right VolcanicGlass 03-19-04 79        RE: Switch Flowerpower 03-18-04 40            RE: Switch pmspml5 03-18-04 44                RE: Switch atimberger1 03-18-04 46                    RE: Switch Flowerpower 03-18-04 47                        RE: Switch volsfan 03-18-04 50                            RE: Switch VerucaSalt 03-19-04 51                                RE: Switch Flowerpower 03-19-04 52                                    RE: Switch Crash Thompson Jr 03-19-04 54                                    RE: Switch Get Bent 03-19-04 75                                        RE: Switch Brownroach 03-19-04 76                                        RE: Switch Flowerpower 03-20-04 82                                RE: Switch badger 03-19-04 53                                RE: Switch Brownroach 03-19-04 55                                    RE: Switch Loree 03-19-04 59                                        RE: Switch VerucaSalt 03-19-04 61                                            RE: Switch raidersfantom 03-19-04 63                                                RE: Switch Flowerpower 03-19-04 67                                                    More on Mitch Get Bent 03-19-04 73                                                        RE: More on Mitch Risti 03-21-04 90                                    RE: Switch sharon55 03-19-04 62                                        RE: Switch bongo 03-19-04 64                                            RE: Switch VerucaSalt 03-19-04 72                                        RE: Switch- previous votes nclady27583 03-19-04 70                                That's Kathy's shorts no RobFadder'... nclady27583 03-19-04 68                                RE: Switch ManateeBob 03-19-04 71                                    RE: Switch pinchy 03-19-04 81    RE: The Clown is S-M-R-T ManateeBob 03-19-04 74        Men vs Women Brat2u 03-20-04 84            Elbow/Hat RyrieRae 03-20-04 85                RE: Hat/Shorts sharon55 03-20-04 86                RE: Elbow/Hat Flowerpower 03-21-04 87                RE: Elbow/Hat Avid Fan 03-22-04 99                    RE: Elbow/Hat Get Bent 03-22-04 100            RE: Men vs Women JohnMc 03-22-04 101  RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... Jerrethan 03-21-04 88  Tom is holding a fish...not tree ma... Flowerpower 03-21-04 89  Previous Stances and Backgrounds Risti 03-21-04 91    RE: Previous Stances and Background... Brat2u 03-21-04 92        RE: Previous Stances and Background... Get Bent 03-21-04 93            RE: Previous Stances and Background... Brat2u 03-21-04 95            RE: Previous Stances and Background... RealityRyan 03-21-04 96                Let's A.S.S.ume RyrieRae 03-22-04 97  RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... Get Bent 03-25-04 102    RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Epi... ManateeBob 03-25-04 103

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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 03-18-04, 01:02 AM (EST) 1. "Two New Tribes of 5?" Amber has dropped her Chapera buff and is selecting a new buff. If this was a merge they would all get the same color and their would be no need to select from the urn. Amber: I feel like I'm the one who got screwed in this whole situation. Amber would not feel screwed if the situation she describes is a traditional merge... It appears that some king of shuffle or swap that takes place. Perhaps the tribes will be reshuffled into two new tribes of 5. They may even live together on Saboga, but it seems obvious that Amber gets seperated from Rob and the perhaps the rest of her tribe. Krautboy   Top

tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 02:15 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Two New Tribes of 5?" Completely agree. It is surely a buff redraw. Throwing panic into the members who felt safest. With Amber and Rob definitely on separate tribes as a result. To bad we'll have to wait over 2 weeks to see it happen. But you can call me tribe. S7ABCABP Winner "I just had to get those guys comfortable riding the big banana. And they did." King Dicque(RIP)   Top

dreamerbeliever 3380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-18-04, 02:42 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Two New Tribes of 5?" just a quick thought ... what if there are 5 red buffs in the vase and one green buff? Lamber picks the green. Thus the only Happy Chappy to feel screwed.   Top

pinay_racer 122 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 01:50 AM (EST) 2. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " i think this would be similar to what happen in marquesas where they were asked to give up there buffs and pick any stone to step on...somebody would definitely go to a different tribe and what's with the body paint? why doesnt the mogomogo people have any on them?   Top

nicholas 19 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 04:44 AM (EST) 5. "amber in danger?" The preview implies that amber is in danger. For the past couple of weeks I believed the Colby-ethan-jerri series of boots but now we have this whole amber in danger situation. Well I think that she really might be in danger I mean she has given an unusual lot of airtime for the past week. But the thing is she’s still thumps up in snewsers list. I’ll sure be checking that list every now and then.   Top

pmspml5 3263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-18-04, 07:15 AM (EST) 6. "RE: amber in danger?" I think the key is that she feels like she is the one who got screwed. I think that it is rob that is not in the majority. How many times have we all heard how he is in complete control over the last few weeks?   Top

JohnMc 2679 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 11:55 AM (EST) 14. "RE: amber in danger?" She should ask Sarah if she has any reason to worry about being split from Rob in a swap.   Top

tommiettop 60 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-18-04, 10:21 PM (EST) 49. "RE: amber in danger?" Amber - > she’s still thumps up in snewsers list. Snewser still hasn't updated the score card to take Ethan off. Wonder if he's looking for/expecting/getting any new information to change the boot order.   Top

oddglass2 134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 08:32 AM (EST) 7. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " Looks like Kathy is holding a can of green paint here: ...but they probably just didn't paint themselves? They're just a "too conservative" tribe to do it? Maybe they didn't read the instructions correctly or something...   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 03-18-04, 09:32 AM (EST) 8. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " Yeah Lex is very conservative, can you imagine him using body paint? Sorry about the sarcasm, the fact that the Chapera is wearing their body paint and the Mogo Mogo are not is probably just a matter of much more tribe spirit on Chapera, while the Mogo Mogo feel defeated and dejected. Krautboy   Top

Magic Fingers 377 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 03-18-04, 09:55 AM (EST) 9. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " I agree KB that it is the fact that Chapera has more team spirit. I am not too sure why they were given the paint. Each tribe was given their team color. Maybe they are to bring the paint with them and after they get their news buffs are to paint themselves and Chapera jumped the gun and might of read the tree mail wrong or read too much into the mail. As mentioned by DB above, maybe just Chapera has to draw for the one new green buff. But now that I think about that, why would Jeff have all of then drop their buffs if only one was having to go over to Mogo Mogo. It seems like maybe everyone will be drawing for new buffs. It also seems like Amber and Rob will be split up by her comments. I bet she becomes a Mogo Mogo and will no longer have her personal warming blankie   Top

oddglass2 134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 10:27 AM (EST) 11. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " >Yeah Lex is very conservative, can >you imagine him using body >paint? ....hmm, I dunno about that one! ;)   Top

Dalton 1271 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 04:06 PM (EST) 41. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " Maybe Kathy convinces Jerri & Shii Ann it's not green paint but rather green KoolAid to be used internally <glug, glug, drink the KoolGreenAid it will make you smart and glow-in-the-dark>. It probably wouldn't add much to the spoiling value....but I'd really like to see it happen in the episode. End of basherist posting. Dalton   Top

Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 10:49 AM (EST) 12. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " In Thailand they had the body paint right before the fake merge. They each had a different shade and then matched up with their coordinating red/blue/gold/etc. for a little get-to-know-you chat before their fake merge. If they split them again would they split them 5/5 or 6/4? And is this split for one week and then a merge?   Top

tommiettop 60 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-18-04, 10:11 AM (EST) 10. "Body paint" LAST EDITED ON 03-18-04 AT 10:14 AM (EST) Trying to figure out a rationale for the paint - Are all the other Chaperas wearing body paint besides Amber and Jenna? In pic#24 it looks like Rob has some red wings (?) painted on his chest. But the others I can't tell. In #16 and #17 most everyone else is almost hidden, but it looks like there might be traces of red paint on Alicia's buff torso. Rupert is pretty much hidden. Tom is out of focus just enough so I can't make out if the red streak on his chest is paint. I hope someone who can blow up the photos or lighten them can do some clearer shots for us. In #26 which is Amber at the time she made her "I'm the one who is screwed" remark (I think) her body paint is gone. So she didn't say it immediately after she drew whatever she is taking out of the urn. The editing makes it appear that that's what she's referring to, but is that true or misdirection again? The only closeup of Mogos at this challenge is #20 showing Shii and Jerri with no paint. The other Mogo shot is too dark to tell. It looks like the Chappies got red and the Mogos got green paint, obviously their tribe colors. But what's it for? Why would not all the players be painted? If only Amber and Jerri are painted, maybe those two had to pick something out of the urn to determine which one got moved to the other tribe, and Amber won (lost)? Or maybe the tribes were told to paint something else and they just used the extra paint on Jerri and Amber, just for fun? I can't see if there's anything else there that both tribes might have painted. Anyone have pics that might give us a clue?   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 11:21 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Body paint" Rob, Tom, and Rupert all have the same, or a very similar, design painted on. Compare Tom's left shoulder here to Rob's: - 16 and then Rupert's chest here: > - 18 I'd assume Alicia's painted somehow/somewhere as well.   Top

nclady27583 21 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 02:03 PM (EST) 69. "They all (Chappy's) have paint" If you blow up #16 you can see Alecia has paint on her stomach, it just doesnt show up as well on her darker skin. Rupert and Tom both have paint on their chests. -lani   Top

raidersfantom 137 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 12:26 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Body paint" Looks like in the vidcaps they're painting something up before they head off to RC/IC. Maybe a last show of team unity as they all expect the merge and have to move out of their existing camps. Kathy and Shii are shown with a brush and tub o' paint in one of 'em. Chapera will paint themselves up cuz they're just that kinda tribe that wears their unity on their sleeves. It's the whole tribal paint unity crap that started at Pagong all those many years ago. How I long for a Tagi alliance again.   Top

shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-18-04, 12:30 PM (EST) 16. "Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" > - 19 > - 25 Rob definitely ends up on MogoMogo! Just take a look at the photos above. First we have Rob stading on the mat before the switch. Notice two things, first of all notice that he is wearing his buff around his neck. Also, as others have pointed out, notice that he is standing to our left of the Chapera flag. Now, notice the pic of Rob where he is standing to our right of the Chapera flag. Where is his buff? It isn't around his neck so this has to be AFTER the switch. Now, how do I know that he is on Mogo? Look at the pic of Jerri and Shis standing on the mat. In this pic it is clearly before the switch. For one, its obviously a close up of the other photo of all the tribes arriving on the mats. Also, if if were after the switch I dont' think they would put their buffs back around their waist. It seems like that takes a little time and effort, to squeeze that buff around the waist. So, it has to be before the switch. Also, on a different site you can see a part of the red flag in the background in this same scene...the red flag in the background is clearly the edge of the Chapera flag blowing in the wind and making its way into the MM photo. Now, take that into account and the pic of Rob not wearing a buff is most likely with him standing on the MM mat with the same Chapera flag blowing in teh wind. Also, the sound bite of Amber saying that she is the one that got screwed in this deal. Well, if she was switched to MM then it would be obvious that she got screwed in the deal so there would be no need to say anything. However, if it was Rob who was switched then Amber could easily make the comment in the context of "sure I"m still on Chapera but my closest ally is on MM and now I feel that I'm the one who got screwed in the deal"   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 12:43 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" LAST EDITED ON 03-18-04 AT 12:57 PM (EST) I'd say the absence of buff doesn't mean anything by itself since Jeff tells them all to drop their buffs -- but good catch on the flag, Shakes. Whose elbow is next to Rob's? It looks masculine and it's not Lex's -- it looks like Tom's. ETA comparison cap: - 10   Top

shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-18-04, 01:27 PM (EST) 25. "the mystery elbow" it has to be Tom's...just look how high it is compared to Rob's body..only Tom is that tall. This throws a slight wrench into my analysis, however if Rob and Tom are sent to MM that could explain how both of them make it far into the game despite Ethan's Early Show comments that MM wont' win another challenge. Rob and Tom may bring a voting majority with them to MM.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 02:30 PM (EST) 31. "RE: the mystery elbow" Rob and Tom may bring a voting majority with them to MM. That's certainly possible. Rob may just look semi-grim because he got separated from Amber. And Ethan was specifically referring to Mogo Mogo in the state it was left last night: Now you have a tribe of Lex, Kathy, Shii Ann and Jerri. You are not going to win. But his comment will be irrelevant if there is a substantial reshuffling.   Top

Boo on the Line 21 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 11:02 AM (EST) 56. "RE: the mystery elbow" It's not an elbow ... it's the top of Shii-Ann's hat but if I am wrong, wouldn't be the first time!! Boo on the line   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-04, 11:24 AM (EST) 57. "You made me look..." ...cause that would have been WAY cool. Almost...but I don't think so. The "point" on the elbow looks too severe for Shii Ann's hat, which is more rounded on top, and I think we'd see part of the brim, as the measurement of the hat's top should be a bit shorter than what's exposed in the picture. And there are bumps that look like the bumps on Tom's arm. But it was an excellent suggestion!   Top

Boo on the Line 21 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 12:50 PM (EST) 60. "RE: You made me look..." I am almost positive it's Shii-Ann's hat. The right color, texture (darker and bumpier than Jerri's) etc. She's either tipping her head up or has the hat tilted back on her head. The strange angle makes it look like an arm, which is what I initially thought it was as well. I totally agree with Shake's analysis - Rob has switched mats, he's standing on the back corner of Mogo's area, closest to the Chapera side. Boo on the line   Top

atimberger1 33 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-19-04, 01:28 PM (EST) 65. "RE: You made me look..." you made me look too, so I went back and analyzed.... the shot where chappy is walking to the mat, has amber and jenna in front, both the same height and rob slightly behind, also close to the same height.....the shot on the mat, shows jenna standing closest to shi-ann, and height comparison shows shi-ann the same or slightly taller, meaning that even if she was next to rob there is no way her hat could be at his shoulder level it would be MUCH higher.. In addition, looking at the mat shot again, tom is standing right next to rob, and in that shot his elbow comes about to where it is in the shot we are trying to analyze. So...I don't think it's shi-ann's hat. But excellent coversation topic..really got me thinking. thanks   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-04, 01:31 PM (EST) 66. "RE: You made me look..." But see cap #25 which has more of Tom's hairy elbow EMYDI   Top

VolcanicGlass 428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 03-19-04, 05:51 PM (EST) 77. "RE: You made me look..." Shii-Ann's Hat Tom's Elbow   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-04, 05:58 PM (EST) 78. "RE: You made me look..." Thank you, VG.   Top

abbahammer 70 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-18-04, 12:52 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" Shakes, take a look at the arm hair on the person who is in the picture to the right of Rob. It's blond and appears high up on Rob. My guess is that is Big Tom. By previous logic, does that mean Big Tom Goes as well? Abbahammer   Top

rupe_a_dupe_rules 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-18-04, 12:56 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" LAST EDITED ON 03-18-04 AT 12:59 PM (EST) That makes more sense than anything. In that last shot of Rob (#25) he doesn't look too happy - the expression on his face seems to be saying "Not again". One question, In that last picture, whose hairy elbow is just to the right of Rob? It looks awfully hairy for a female, though being blond hair it could be Kathy. Sunlight might make the arm look hairier (?) than it is. Edited to add - looks like BR and abba are thinking the same as me only they got there first.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 01:03 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" Doesn't look like Kathy's skin quality to me: - 14   Top

oddglass2 134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 12:57 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" In that 2nd photo, I think that's Tom's elbow to Rob's left (he's the only one tall enough and see how he's standing in the first photo you posted? It's the same position in the 2nd photo where Rob doesn't have the buff around the neck), so maybe Tom gets switched too?   Top

ElroyJetson 586 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 03-18-04, 01:08 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" I'm liking that analysis Shakes. Additionally, Rob's arms-crossed stance is a classic defensive posture. He'd have a lot to be defensive about on MM.   Top

kinglepore 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 01:25 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Was the flag moved?" Is it possible that the red flag was moved while they were picking?   Top

Brat2u 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-18-04, 02:03 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Was the flag moved?" I was thinking the same thing. When it's Ruperts turn he passes the flag - that's why it's next to Rob and Tom's is still next to him. In the last clip Amber's hair isn't in a pony tail, looks clean and brushed. Last night Jenna gave MM some supplies, but did Chappy keep any for themselves?   Top

KObrien_fan 8360 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 05:01 PM (EST) 45. "RE: Was the flag moved?" According to Kathy here is what Chappy gave Mogo Mogo: a piece of used soap that was maybe 1/4" thick at best- and very small, some toilet paper but maybe about 36 squares of it, a toothbrush, a small hairbrush. In the reward basket Chappy had alot more then that, so I would say they kept most of the bootee for themselves and what they gave up was more of a diplomatic gesture (like Neleh's offer of a sucked on mint) then a real help to the Mogo's. Surgeon General G.A.W.K.U.R's of OT   Top

Brat2u 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-19-04, 11:33 AM (EST) 58. "Jenna with Flag" While Chappy is walking to the red mat, Jenna is carrying the flag. She stands in front of Rupert, who now has the flag. I can also see a tiny dent in the sand next to Rob, maybe the flag was there momentarily too... Can anyone zoom in on the pics of ShiAnn reading the tree mail. It would be great to see the letter!!!   Top

spacey 115 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 01:48 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" My take on Rob's stance is he is watching Amber pull her buff and hoping she gets on the same team as he is. Looks like as the clips go on she doesn't get on his team and he is upset about losing her.   Top

idiotcowboy 1135 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 03-18-04, 02:55 PM (EST) 32. "I Disagree Shakes" Your logic is sound enough, but I'm going disagree with you here. For starters the flag you are pointing to is being held by Rupert in the first picture. I expect it's relationship to Rob later has been moved to the flag holder that is in the center of the mats (this is tv they arent going to risk a flag falling at an inappropriate time especially as windy as its been). Which is enough for me to conclude that Rob is still Chapera or hasnt had his turn to draw yet. Second isnt the discusion topic at camp between Rob and Tom (dancing) how happy they are that Ethan was voted out? That was how I interpreted it, but I will rewatch that part to make sure. In that scene Tom is definately wearing a red buff on his head. Point being they wouldnt know it was Ethan unless they had already been to the challenge. IMO, Rob and Tom are definately still Chapera. -ICB   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 03:13 PM (EST) 34. "RE: I Disagree Shakes" Second isnt the discusion topic at camp between Rob and Tom (dancing) how happy they are that Ethan was voted out? Are you talking about caps 9-12 above? That's them with the tree mail instructions to do whatever they're supposed to do with the paint, isn't it? We see Mogo Mogo with the same piece of paper. It would take place before the arrival shots with the flags.   Top

Magic Fingers 377 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 03-18-04, 03:41 PM (EST) 37. "RE: I Disagree Shakes" I assumed Tom was excited about the possibility of a merge where they can knock off the MM tribe the rest of the way. He said.."we were tickled to death". The tree mail might of hinted something about getting to know the other tribe, but we know what they think will happen is different with the drawing of new buffs. I wonder if they think they will be painting a new "merged" tribe flag combining the 2 colors. Who knows.   Top

udg 3381 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-19-04, 06:12 PM (EST) 80. "I agree, but not because of the picture" Personally, I think Rupert plants the flag before he removes his buff. However, Amber's line about how she's the one who feels screwed sounds like someone else got the really bad end of the deal, but she feels bad anyway. If that's not Rob getting sent to Mogo, I can't imagine what it might be instead! --- UDG   Top

Charonna 112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-20-04, 08:09 AM (EST) 83. "RE: Its Rob, NOT Amber that ends up on Mogo Mogo" Great call... On Rob switching sides... Is that Tom next to him?   Top

okaloosajohn 1259 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 01:20 PM (EST) 23. "Is that all we get?" Is that it? We are going to get a 10 minute tribe shuffling and then 30 minutes of re-peats? That sux rocks.   Top

Sneezles 114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 02:20 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Is that all we get?" Is this for the recrap? I thought these were the previews for Ep. 10. The scrambling and broken hearts thing.   Top

okaloosajohn 1259 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 02:25 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Is that all we get?" Well, the thread title says Episode 9. I'm _soooo_ confused! Also, the TV Guide listings all still say "a ninth player is booted" for next Wednesday's episode, too...   Top

raidersfantom 137 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 02:30 PM (EST) 30. "The Clown is S-M-R-T" You know, if I looked at these vidcaps all friggin' day, I never would have thought of that....Rob being the one going to Mogo. Kudos Shakes, big Kudos! Looks like Tom's arm next to Rob as well. The look on the robfaddah's face is the same one he had when he went to Rotu and Sara stayed at Maraamu. So if spoilers are to be believed that Jerri is next, I think perhaps we will see the best challenge of all time as two tribes battle it out TO LOSE the challenge. Of course wherever Rupert ends up, which is prolly still on Chapera, they'll win, he won't wanna throw a challenge like in PI. If Jerri stays at Mogo, she's a goner, with Tom and Rob there. Maybe we'll see the first tie since Marquesas too. If Kathy stays at Mogo, she'll vote with Rob and Tom, since Jerri can't win her a group immunity, as proven last night.   Top

VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 03-18-04, 03:12 PM (EST) 33. "Switch" There are some very good arguments/observations (as always) I'm not convinced that it is Rob at Mogo Mogo, not yet anyway. Rob and the others were told to drop their buffs so he is probably waiting and watching for his turn. Amber was shown going up to the urn with Jeff to select presumably a new buff and at that time, her buff was gone. This picture of Rob, while I agree, is AFTER the twist is announced does not really scream at me that he is on Mogo Mogo. Not that it ultimately means anything but the absence of any buff (Chapera or otherwise) on Rob, makes me believe at this moment, he is just waiting on his turn. As mentioned, Tom's elbow seems to be there as well so the suggestion that Tom and Rob are both now on Mogo Mogo is certainly plausible but for them to be standing in the exact position as they had on Chapera (and if you notice Tom has his hand on his hips/evidenced by the elbow and in the arrival picture, his elbow is in the same position) just strikes me as still being on Chapera's mat. Further in my long winded way, it is just as plausbile that the flag has changed "holders" if you will so a member can go up and select. Example: Rupert has flag upon arrival. He passes it Jenna (for example) who then has to pass it to Amber (for example) and at the time we are seeing someone else is holding it because either.... 1. Why bother giving it back to the original holder? It isn't like that person "owns" the flag 2. The person who is the original holder is no longer on Chapera's mat There is NO DOUBT Amber's confessional could be construed as her being switched, Rob being switched or even something else but I'm not yet ready to commit that he is the one switched on the one picture.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 03:27 PM (EST) 35. "RE: Switch" LAST EDITED ON 03-18-04 AT 03:27 PM (EST) If Rob and Tom are still in their original positions on Chapera's mat, where is the flag positioned in this cap? Who is holding it? It's clearly blowing behind Rob's shoulder: - 24 I agree it's odd that they would be standing in almost identical positions on Mogo's mat. Still, that flag...   Top

Avid Fan 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-22-04, 02:13 PM (EST) 98. "RE: Switch" Don't get hung up on the flag placement. We saw strange camerawork last week or the week before where we were spculating the same things...based on where players were in relation to the flag. A. Amber could be saying she feels like SHE is the one that got screwed with the whole thing because of something entirely different than the "switch". We don't know...it's like MB to put that type of misdirection into the previews. B. Amber does say that SHE feels like she is the one to get screwed. As such it would have to appear to the viewer that she is not the one to get screwed but regardless she does feel it is her. B1. That could mean that Rob moves to Mogo Mogo. B2. This would make it appear that Rob is getting screwed having to go away from his team but it's Amber who feels she is getting screwed having lost Rob (or just with losing all she'd worked for thus far....face it, her gameplan this time around was to ride in with King Rob - and yes I am a HUGE Amber fan -- not as a Survivor player but, well...just LOOK at her). B3. For the audience to believe that someone is screwed they'd have to go to another tribe alone. If Rob and Tom both go to a new Mogo Mogo and they have a voting majority then we won't see them as being screwed. If one went alone I know I'd be thinking easy vote-off. That would justify Amber's statement to the viewers that though someone else appears to be getting screwed it is, in fact, she who "feels that I'm the one being screwed." Also: In a picture from the previews there's a shot of Rob and Jenna L. in a shelter and she's taking off her drawers. Two pics later she and Amber are laying all over Rob. Is the picture of Jenna L and Rob from their shelter or do they go away on a RC? AF   Top

shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-18-04, 03:29 PM (EST) 36. "you're right" >As mentioned, Tom's elbow seems to >be there as well so >the suggestion that Tom and >Rob are both now on >Mogo Mogo is certainly plausible >but for them to be >standing in the exact position >as they had on Chapera >(and if you notice Tom >has his hand on his >hips/evidenced by the elbow and >in the arrival picture, his >elbow is in the same >position) just strikes me as >still being on Chapera's mat. ....I gave my original argument before the elbow controversy came up. I think I may have spoke too soon (I know I know, I'm shocked as well The fact that Tom's elbow is in the exact same spot in both pics seems a little too coincidental to be post switch/on the MM mat. The odds of them standing are the exact same spot and body positions is just too long. The one thing that threw me off was the fact that the flag had switched spots. I guess a more plausible explanation is that Rob is no longer on the edge of the mat as he moves closer to JP and his turn at picking a buff...while someone who has already gone and been assigned to Chapera is now holding the flag and standing at the far end of the mat since that person already picked a buff and would most likely get out of the way and allow the others like ROb a turn to pick.   Top

kinglepore 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 03:43 PM (EST) 38. "RE: you're right" Rupert probably planted the flag in the sand on the opposite side of the mat when he took his turn, the same way that Chapera's is planted (no one is holding it).   Top

VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 03-18-04, 03:56 PM (EST) 39. "RE: you're right" The best part (and the worst) is that we are one day after a new episode and still have all the time and caps in the world until the next one and look how much we have seen already lolol shakes, I think as of now with the limited pictures, your thoughts are as conceivable as any others. BR I agree the flag is strange but if it is handed off or put in the ground, then the explanation speaks for itself. I would surmise though considering the HUGE airtime Rob and Amber's romance has received, more likely than not, they have been separated for a while. I could go on about how the story fits how certain players could ultimately land together before the typical merge but that is for another thread lol.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 04:14 PM (EST) 42. "RE: you're right" VS and Shakes, I'm not committing 100% to Rob's going to Mogo Mogo either, but I don't think Shakes should recant too quickly. First of all, Rob's body position does change slightly; in one he has hands on hips, in the other arms folded across his chest. Tom appears to have hands on hips in both. But, these people probably assume a habitual stance at these listening-to-Jiffy sessions -- there isn't much room to move around on the mats, so they probably stand pretty much the same way all the time. So it's very possible, imo, that Rob and Tom are on the Mogo Mogo mat in the close-up shot, taking their habitual stances. If Rupert planted the Chapera flag and it wasn't moved, this is the only possibility. Either that or they're still in the same place on Chapera's mat, imo, and the flag got moved. As Shakes said, Rob may have moved forward on the mat, but if so, then he and Tom moved forward the identical distance, keeping the same distance between them, which seems implausible if everyone's shifting around. And we don't see anyone standing behind them. Anyway, as you say we have plenty of time to mull it over. For now, we can agree that Ramber will be split up.   Top

VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 03-18-04, 04:32 PM (EST) 43. "RE: you're right" First of all, Rob's body position does change slightly; in one he has hands on hips, in the other arms folded across his chest I noticed that BR and naturally on the flip side, his body language could have changed (and as someone astutely noted to a more defensive posture) because he just witnessed Amber becoming a new member of Mogo Mogo But as we both said, there is still SO much time and pictures to come for us to figure this out which I just know we will   Top

survivornut 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 03-21-04, 06:51 PM (EST) 94. "He's also facing the same way" I think the flag and possibly Amber got moved but Rob and Tom stay put as of that photo since they are in the same relative position and facing the exact same way.   Top

cyrilsneer 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 03-18-04, 10:05 PM (EST) 48. "RE: you're right" Wanted to point out that if Amber ends up on Mogo Mogo, she has REALLY good reason for saying she's "the one who got screwed": 1. Her romance is split up. 2. All her hard work in the previous reward challenge goes down the drain, as she is sent to the camp Chapera just raided. Just my two cents   Top

VolcanicGlass 428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 03-19-04, 06:02 PM (EST) 79. "RE: you're right" shakes, FWIW, the red flag does show up blowing in the wind behind Jerri and Shii-Ann when they first line up in the Mogo Mogo arrival scene.   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 03:58 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Switch" So there are two plausible scenarios here: 1. The flags were put into the sand to remain independent of anyone holding them, and Tom and Rob have already taken their turns and drawn Mogo buffs and are now bystanding on the Mogo Mat.....OR 2. The flag has been passed down the line perhaps even to Rob who staked it down behind himself and to his right, and he and Tom remain in their original positions at Chappy awaiting their turns. Regardless of which scenario it is, it is most likely that Amber and Rob get separated, and from the sounds of it, Amber ends up with a dominant Mogo tribe, she's in the minority as a Chappy, and she's the weakest link....therefore the biggest target. If this is what happens I predict that the opposing tribe, with the dominant group of Chappy's, one of which is Robfadda, will throw the IC, therefore saving Amber from the boot, and then voting off the Mogo on their tribe....Scerri.   Top

pmspml5 3263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 03-18-04, 04:38 PM (EST) 44. "RE: Switch" If they switch it to 5-5 it is very possible that you have 3 Chapy's on each tribe. Which would totally defeat the reason to mix up the tribes. MB could put the mix up in hoping for the outcome not to be obvious. However we end up-with 3 Chapy's on each tribe so the pagonging still happens. MB says well - I tried mid as well merge to one tribe once we are down to 9. Just a thought   Top

atimberger1 33 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-18-04, 06:23 PM (EST) 46. "RE: Switch" However it is still plausible that even if there are three chappy's they could turn and vote off rob or amber, which would be smartest in my opinion. However it's easy to say sitting at home, the dynamics out there are completely different, so who knows.   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 09:02 PM (EST) 47. "RE: Switch" I predict that it will be 5-5 on the tribes, and it could turn out to have 3 Mogo's on a tribe with 2 Chappy's and then on the other tribe have 4 Chappy's and only 1 Mogo....   Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-18-04, 10:53 PM (EST) 50. "RE: Switch" In Thailand...didn't they just reshuffle leaving the same numbers on each tribe? Also, Flower, I am not so sure that Mogo will become a powerful tribe after the reshuffle...if we believe the spoilers. Director of Public Relations for GAWKUR!   Top

VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 03-19-04, 07:44 AM (EST) 51. "RE: Switch" From what it appears now until we get further info Amber could be switched (based on confessional) Rob could be switched (based on Amber's confessional and standing positioning post twist) Rob AND Tom could be switched (based on standing positioning post twist) Lex could be switched (based on shot of Lex with what appears to be Rob's blue cap brim sticking out) but that seems unlikely because why would only Lex be taken leaving MM down to three (Pictures below) It is 6-4 but in fairness to Chapera why should more than one member be switched over? In fact, why should Chapera suffer to lose anyone as far as numbers? Having a swap is one thing, losing a body is like saying MM didn't suffer losses at their own hands so so they have the luxury of gaining another body. So if BR and Lex end up on the same tribe (and we have to then include Tom in that based on the pictures) then we have BR, Lex and Tom with presumably Amber on the opposite team of BR (hence her confessional) If Jerri is the presumed next casualty (and you all know how I feel about "spoilers) I can't really fathom why Lex would suddenly do a 180 and keep someone like Rob when his whole goal is to get rid of threats which may mean....... The new MM if you will (or Chapera but for sake of argument let's do say Tom/Rob go to MM) win the IC and perhaps Jerri is a victim of the twist and ends up on Chapera and is the first casualty? Speculatively...... we have Tom, Rob, Lex on MM we have Jerri, Amber on Chapera Still leaving Kathy, SA, Rupert, Alicia, Jenna. My only "issue" is that (but again, Survivor isn't fair) MM will end up with three men (based on the pictures we are seeing) and Chapera has just Rupert left. Now in terms of how I have been viewing the story and the foreshadowing, actually, it fits perfect so who knows. If I am to "tie in" the rest of the way I view Survivor.......... Then the tribes would end up being (with room to flip maybe A and SA) Tom, Rob, Lex, Shii Ann - MM Rupert, Kathy, Amber, Jerri, Jenna - Saboga Saboga would lose the IC and Jerri would be gone IF you want to speculate based on spoilers mind you and I am not one to enjoy that very much (personally from how things "look" Jerri wouldn't be my choice to go next time) So on this Friday, anyone want to dive in on this?   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-04, 08:12 AM (EST) 52. "RE: Switch" LAST EDITED ON 03-19-04 AT 08:14 AM (EST) I concede that I think it most probably will be a tribal reshuffle that ends in a Chappy 6/Mogo 4 in the tribes...I can not, however, see 3 men going over to Mogo, but in a random shuffle, I guess it could indeed happen. Also, I get the feeling that Amber gets screwed somehow...I believe she gets separated, but to me getting screwed leaaves her in the minority, and with your scenario she is still in the majority.... I tried to analyze the background vegatation in the vidcap of Amber in Ep 9, confessing that she's the one that got screwed, to see if we could figure out which tribe she indeed goes to....The results are inconclusive, although I'm leaning toward that she's back at Chappy.... Here's the pic of her in Ep 9, in the confessional stating that she's the one that got screwed, note the fern-like vegatation, with grassy stems... Here is a shot from Ep 8 of Amber in a confessional at Chappy, notice the similar vegatation: Here is a shot from Ep 6 of Alicia at Chappy, note similar vegatation: Here is a pic of a challenge site used in ep 4,looks like similar vegetation...but alot more grassy,IMO And lastly here is a pic at the Mogo camp from ep 9: So, there it is....most likely she is still at Chappy????   Top

Crash Thompson Jr 63 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-19-04, 10:13 AM (EST) 54. "RE: Switch" I don't think 3 men on one tribe is so "unlikely" at all. After all, in S4 we had Paschal on an all-women tribe because of a random twist. So 3 guys on MM (or Chapera) I think could be very likely.   Top

Get Bent 293 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-19-04, 04:41 PM (EST) 75. "RE: Switch" Flower Power, Thanks, I was hoping someone would post previous confessional vid caps so we could compare! I am thinking it is inconclusive at this time. The vegitation is too similar at both camps.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-04, 04:48 PM (EST) 76. "RE: Switch" I am thinking it is inconclusive at this time. The vegitation is too similar at both camps. And the contestants are often pulled away from camp for their confessionals. I concur, the vegetation is too similar in all the caps to make a determination.   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-20-04, 07:41 AM (EST) 82. "RE: Switch" Yes, I felt that way too, that the vegatation was too similar, but after reviewing all the confessional vidcaps of everyone from ep 1 to present, I did not find any confessionals with the ferns as they are in the first 2 Amber shots and the Alicia shot, from a Mogo Mogo confessional background. I am really leaning that she is back at Chappy.   Top

badger 1273 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 09:39 AM (EST) 53. "RE: Switch" Then the tribes would end up being (with room to flip maybe A and SA) Tom, Rob, Lex, Shii Ann - MM Rupert, Kathy, Amber, Jerri, Jenna - Saboga Saboga would lose the IC and Jerri would be gone IF you want to speculate based on spoilers mind you and I am not one to enjoy that very much (personally from how things "look" Jerri wouldn't be my choice to go next time) well, i dunno. i could see jerri being the odd person out, no matter what tribe she ends up on. and she and rupert did have the conflict early in the game on saboga.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-04, 10:47 AM (EST) 55. "RE: Switch" If Jerri is the presumed next casualty (and you all know how I feel about "spoilers) I can't really fathom why Lex would suddenly do a 180 and keep someone like Rob when his whole goal is to get rid of threats which may mean....... Lex may not have a choice. Lex was thinking about the merge and about getting rid of threats ahead of time (Colby, Ethan), BUT -- with his tribe down in numbers he also must have been thinking about pulling in some Chaperas after the merge. So, now there is no merge. Suppose new MM is Rob, Tom, Lex and Jerri. If Rob and Tom are adamant about sticking together -- which they would be for the sake of reuniting Chapera come merge time -- and MM loses IC, is it worth it to Lex to try and save Jerri by forcing a tie vote? I think Lex would happily vote Jerri out to save his own neck (remember the Jerri/Lex alliance conversation and Lex's comments -- here is where Jerri gets screwed over by Lex). I could totally see this happening. Just my $.02, VS.   Top

Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-04, 12:32 PM (EST) 59. "RE: Switch" ...And Lex is friends with both Tom and Rob outside the game. So I could see him voting along with them if he gets blindsided by a switch. I think Lex and Kathy being split up would be interesting.   Top

VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 03-19-04, 12:52 PM (EST) 61. "RE: Switch" I didn't know Lex and Rob were friends outside the game, interesting. Where did you hear that only b/c that would indeed bode well for a Lex hooking up with Tom and Rob. Oh BR you can give me your 2 cents anytime. Your scenario makes a lot of sense. I am basing mine more on Lex's mindset that I have seen and the fact that Jerri has been a very willing partner for him. Plus I'm not sure what Tom would do in this situation since he does have a friendship with Lex and has to know that Rob is a major threat to him down the road. So why not get rid of Rob then? On that flip side, Tom (as I am now arguing with myself from what I wrote in the storyline thread) is not exactly the most aggressive when it is time to make that crucial decision. So I wonder then is it possible that Rob gets MM a win with Tom/Rob/Lex/SA or someone and the tides turn for the worse at Chapera with Jerri there along with (insert who you wish) We aren't even sure the reshuffling even happens with Rob there yet but I love exploring all this since we have so much time left on our hands   Top

raidersfantom 137 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 01:06 PM (EST) 63. "RE: Switch" Mitchell said it in his Wednesday morning round table on TES with T-Bird. Mitch is still friends with Amber eh? So he's seeing more of Boston Rob and stuff now. Probably getting lots of good dirt on the whole game.   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-04, 01:37 PM (EST) 67. "RE: Switch" >Mitch is still friends with Amber eh? So he's seeing more of Boston Rob and stuff now. Probably getting lots of good dirt on the whole game< Hmmmm.....when asked by the interviewer Mitchell did say that the love birds were 2 of his best friends(I found that odd), and he thought that they were his picks to the end! .....did'nt know that he and Amber were friendly, but if they are and he's indeed gotten to know Robfadda as well, this is very interesting.   Top

Get Bent 293 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-19-04, 03:03 PM (EST) 73. "More on Mitch" I read it in another post about the relationships Mitch has, but this theory I describe below may have been from another poster. If Lex and Rob were good friends, they could have hatched an excellent plan to succeed as a F2 pair if on other tribes. Their plan would be to vote off the most conniving and/or strongest challenge players. Which explains why Lex is planning the downfall of MM, and why Rob M got rid of Rob C (instead of Alicia, who he obviously hates). It wouldn't matter that Lex appeared to be a threat to the dominant tribe, because Lex and Rob are partners, and they would pair up (with their strongest alliance partners Amber, Kathy, Jenna?) and pick off the remaining players as they see fit (assuming they use the same ideas of eliminating based on a threat). Plus they surrounded themselves with women, which should ensure one of the men winning the final immunity (usually strength and endurance) and taking the other man with him. So, just a theory FWIW!   Top

Risti 190 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-21-04, 01:31 PM (EST) 90. "RE: More on Mitch" I was just thinking the other day that with knowing each other previously, this is where real pre-planned, hidden alliances would be the *very* smart way to play. In S7, so many people wondered if Sandra and Jon were secretly aligned, using animosity as a cover to allow them to deflate attention from the fact that between the two of them they were scheming to vote everyone else off. Now, this theory turned out to be false, but the idea behind it would be great for a situation like this.   Top

sharon55 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 12:57 PM (EST) 62. "RE: Switch" Just a further possibility to the "Lex turning on Jerri" scenario - what if Lex does stay true to their alliance and they both vote for Rob or Tom - and Rob and Tom both vote for Jerri -tie vote but neither Rob nor Tom have any votes to date therefore it's Jerri going home. Rob and Tom may have info via Kathy's boat blab that Jerri has votes against her and that's why they single her out as opposed to voting out the stronger Lex. Just a thought.   Top

bongo 112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 01:28 PM (EST) 64. "RE: Switch" Huh, I thought next week's ep is a recap, or am I way off? Or are there 2 shows next week, a recap and an actual ep? Help me out here, I'm kinda confused.   Top

VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 03-19-04, 02:57 PM (EST) 72. "RE: Switch" bongo next week is a recap; we are just being early birds since they did provide some caps for the episode to air the following week   Top

nclady27583 21 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 02:08 PM (EST) 70. "RE: Switch- previous votes" They stopped using previous votes against the players back in I believe the forth season according to Jeff at TC. They needed to break a tie and he said they would have to have a question/answer session since they dont use previous votes anymore. -Lani   Top

nclady27583 21 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-19-04, 01:59 PM (EST) 68. "That's Kathy's shorts no RobFadder's hat" Lex is sitting down and Kathy is standing next to him. Could be someone else's shorts, but definately shorts. -Lani   Top

ManateeBob 38 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-19-04, 02:35 PM (EST) 71. "RE: Switch" It seems prety obvious that Rob and Ambuh are seperated so I like any of the theories which get that done BUT.... I havent seen it mentioned here to any degree but I have to conclude that as confident as the Robfadda has been (notwithstanding his natural arrogance) that Big Tom has been in the alliance with him and Ambuh from the beginning. Think on how many yuks they have shared at the other contestants and how many side conversations you have seen between them (yet no confessional admissions-playing into the alliance revealed does not work out theories). If Im correct on this, then if both Rob and Big Tom go to Mogo Mogo it prefectly sets up Ambers confessional because she has had her whole core alliance moved to the other tribe and she would have to rely on the tenuous alliance she and Rob (I assume they did not reveal BT is in with them) made with Jenna and Rupert when they came into Chapera. What most intrigues me is any scenario in which the Robfadda retains a controlling block in one tribe while Ambuh is in the other. Would he tank an IC and get rid of one of his tangental allies or a newcomer in his tribe (e.g. Jerri) to prevent the possibility of his new girl getting dumped in the other tribe?   Top

pinchy 200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-19-04, 08:34 PM (EST) 81. "RE: Switch" both Tom and Rob have mentioned or alluded to an alliance with Lex and whoever he's teamed up with... they also worked on Kathy when she was at Chapera.   Top

ManateeBob 38 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-19-04, 03:19 PM (EST) 74. "RE: The Clown is S-M-R-T" >PI. If Jerri stays at >Mogo, she's a goner, with >Tom and Rob there. >Maybe we'll see the first >tie since Marquesas too. >If Kathy stays at Mogo, >she'll vote with Rob and >Tom, since Jerri can't win >her a group immunity, as >proven last night. Im not so sure, Jerri obviously is at the mercy of everyone because she is so disliked, so I dont think anyone who plans to keep moving deeper into the game has a real incentive to get rid of her at this point. Shes an easy target whenever someone has to go, she doesnt seem to be much of a threat come IC, and lets face it unlike the now departed Colbster, everyone this time would take an unpleasant b*tch into final vote simply because it makes the other person a virtual lock to be "sole survivor". So assuming one tribe ends up as above, my bet is the original Mogos stick together to get rid of Rob, who has done well at challenges and obviously has alliances with many other players. Removes an individual threat and might break up a lot of alliances.   Top

Brat2u 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-20-04, 10:41 AM (EST) 84. "Men vs Women" Right now there's a total of 10 players, 6 men, 4 women. EP10 they are re-picking buffs, but not merging. If they merge the following week with 9 players, even if a woman was voted off, they still have the dominate number. IF the women are wise this time (unlike on the PI, it was frustrating to watch Christa and Sandra make deals with Burton and Johnny when they could've just voted them off!), they will allign together and vote the guys off IMMEDIATELY! It's there only chance against these strong guys when it comes to individual challenges.   Top

RyrieRae 416 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 03-20-04, 01:09 PM (EST) 85. "Elbow/Hat" About the whole "elbow/hat" discrepancy... I agree, it looks more like flesh than a hat, but here's something to consider. Instead of the elbow postioned with the hand on the hip, maybe the person's hand is up in the hair (like resting on their head, or putting on a new buff) This would make the person SHORTER than Rob, most likely female. About the whole swap thing... I am almost certain that it will be a 6-4 swap, Chapera still dominating. It has always been done this way, and if they evened the tribes 5-5, this would be punishing the better team and rewarding the losers. About Amber's comment... I will not be too quick to assume she is referring to a post swap situation. It is highly likely, but I am not 100% convinced. The previews for last weeks episode showed Ethan saying "Everything was going smoothly, then boom." I assumed it had something to do with sending a person to the opposite side, bu it actually was said in the beginning of the episode about Colby getting booted.   Top

sharon55 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 03-20-04, 06:12 PM (EST) 86. "RE: Hat/Shorts " After looking at the vid caps again, the bit of cloth to the right of Lex as he sits in front of the tree looks like the bottom edge of Shi Ann's shirt. She is wearing a dark blue shirt open like a jacket in the picture above (vc #14) and vc #15 could even be a continuance of the conversation going on in #14. Thanks Lani for the info on votes not going against players in a tie - didn't know that! I am new to the whole "spoilerism" hobby - learning a lot from this site!   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-21-04, 07:49 AM (EST) 87. "RE: Elbow/Hat" and if they evened the tribes 5-5, this would be punishing the better team and rewarding the losers. Since when is fair a word in the MB dictionary? Was forming a ghost tribe out of previously booted out players fair? Talk about rewarding the losers?!   Top

Avid Fan 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 03-22-04, 02:16 PM (EST) 99. "RE: Elbow/Hat" I've tried...really I have, to see anything EXCEPT Tom's arm but I just can't. There is absolutely, 100%, no way that is anything except Big Tom's Right Arm...it's an arm, it's big, it's hairy (light hair) and it belongs to a person taller than Rob. AvidFan   Top

Get Bent 293 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-22-04, 02:39 PM (EST) 100. "RE: Elbow/Hat" LAST EDITED ON 03-22-04 AT 02:40 PM (EST) AF, I agree completly. I can't even see the possibility that it is something else. Maybe we have a different display so this image is clearer to us. Also, you asked earlier in the thread about Jenna taking longer pants off and Jenna, Amber and Rob together cuddling. IMHO, it is in thier current shelter, not a reward. I also agree with your theory that someone else gets a bad draw, but Amber is the one who feels (not necessarily is to the AV) screwed. Wow, 100 posts on this thread and all we have conclusively come up with is that Amber gets screwed. They didn't unknowingly give us many clues this time in the vid caps now did they?! (Edited for spelling).   Top

JohnMc 2679 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 03-22-04, 06:20 PM (EST) 101. "RE: Men vs Women" *counting* men left - Rob, Tom, Rupert, Lex = 4 women left - Amber, Alicia, Jenna, Kathy, Jerri, Shii Ann = 6 More women left than men. More Chapera left than Mogos. Who is in the position of power? Chapera women. Who is in the position of weakness? Lex.   Top

Jerrethan 51 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-21-04, 09:50 AM (EST) 88. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " Hi y'all, I'm a long time visitor of this site and a first time poster. I just have a question: Can anyone tell me if this is Jerri's boot episode? I just don't get it, because somewhere around here I read that she makes it to the jury, but if she's next... Everyone I've asked says that she's next based only either on Orangeena's predictions over at Sucks, or SNN's scorecard. Sure hope that they're wrong!   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-21-04, 12:03 PM (EST) 89. "Tom is holding a fish...not tree mail" Concerning the vidcap with Tom holding something at the Chappy camp....looks like tree mail, but I've always thought this looked like a fish. Specifically, it looks like a "gar-type" fish, or a ballyhoo(which is a fish used as marlin bait when going deep sea fishing). It is a long thin silvery fish with a bill at the end of its head. I have posted the vid cap of Tom and the fish and then note the size of Shii-Ann's tree mail.....FWIW   Top

Risti 190 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 03-21-04, 01:56 PM (EST) 91. "Previous Stances and Backgrounds" Episode 8 Episode 6 - note the flag All from Episode 6, just showing Tom in several different positions with his hands on his hips. Rob's positions change more often, but crossing his arms seems to be a common one, and it's body language that would suit Rob's personality. It's a threatenning stance that is at the same time mainly centred on protecting yourself. Note the close ups on Tom's arm - I think we can safely say that it's his arm and not a hat in those other pictures. Now...On the other hand... Compare the backdrop of this or this one, with a slight bit of rock at the top with this shot of Jerri and Shiann with the red flag waving. It is still possible that the camera is simply from another angle looking out to see rather than towards land, but it makes me wonder... My gut, however, is telling me that Tom and Rob ended up on Mogo Mogo. I also wonder if Rob got Rupert *without* the Hawaiian sling again, but that's a thought to bring over to the foreshadowing thread...   Top

Brat2u 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-21-04, 05:47 PM (EST) 92. "RE: Previous Stances and Backgrounds" The pics of Chappy walking, Jenna's carrying the flag, the large amount of sand and rocks are behind them. Clearly seen in the background in the pic of Shi and Jerri. The red flag, held by Rupert is blowing hard, can be seen in that pic. Looks like they are listening to JP explain stuff. So far the flag has moved twice. I think it moves again. The pics of Rob shows alot more water, no sand, the rocks are at the top. Which could tell us that he's now on MM. But IMHO he's still on Chappy. We see the right side of Robs face while he's watching ppl pick, so the camera man is standing on that side of him, or slightly to his front. Look at pic 19, notice the sand and water backdrop. For the pics of Rob, the camera man would be kinda next to Rob and Alicia, shooting into their faces. Now if Rob was on MM, being closest to Chappy's flag, the camera placing between, somewhat infront the MM & Chappy mats,to get the right side of his face - we would see tons of sand in Robs pics. I dunno...does that make any sense, kinda hard to explain. =)   Top

Get Bent 293 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-21-04, 06:31 PM (EST) 93. "RE: Previous Stances and Backgrounds" Brat2U, I get it, maybe some pictures would help to discuss. Chapera and MM lined up. Notice water behind Chappy, and Rocks behind MM. Close up of MM (shooting from L) with Rocks in background. Close up of Rob (also shooting from L) with only water in background. Therefore IMHO, Rob is still awating his turn, or stays on Chappy with Tom. Is this what you were trying to convey Brat? By the way, I don't know if I have a different computer display than others (I'm on a lap top), but it is DEFINATELY Tom's elbow in vid caps 24 and 25. You can see detail of the inside of the elbow wrinkeling (sp?) as it bends, and light arm hair.   Top

Brat2u 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 03-21-04, 07:11 PM (EST) 95. "RE: Previous Stances and Backgrounds" Hey GB - ^5! TYVM, that's much better!!! ::applause:: =) BTW - yes, I've noticed ppl have different computer displays. Like the pic of SA/Jerri, it's been posted with the tip of the Chappy flag, and without.   Top

RealityRyan 218 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-21-04, 07:26 PM (EST) 96. "RE: Previous Stances and Backgrounds" It looks to me like there are rocks in the background of the Rob solo pic... and definately the shadow of trees in the water- it looks like it's from that penninsula that's jutting out in the background of the first pic. If the camera was taking a head on shot of Rob where he's standing in the first pic, there would be only water in the background, but there's not... so either he goes to mogo mogo, or he just moves from his spot for some reason... maybe to go draw a new buff. At any rate, I would say these pics are inconclusive Kathy must win !!! Down with THE RUPERT! I heart America's Next Top Model   Top

RyrieRae 416 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 03-22-04, 11:55 AM (EST) 97. "Let's A.S.S.ume" Okay, so let's pretend that we know for sure Rob and Tom go to Mogo Mogo and they are the only two. Let's also pretend that we know for sure Amber's "I'm screwed" comment comes from post swap. Now here's the game: Which 2 from Mogo Mogo would be swapped to Chapera that would be such a threat to Amber to make her say such a thing? It's probably not Jerri, since she and Amber were allies in Outback. This situation would HELP Amber. I can't see Lex being a threat, if his two "friends" (Tom and Rob) are on the other side now. It will probably be Shii-Ann and Kathy that go to Chapera. Kathy is already accepted by Chapera and will easily allign with people. Of course she will bring Shii-Ann into her new alliance. If she hooks up with any body other than Amber at this point, Amber could be "screwed."   Top

Get Bent 293 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 03-25-04, 00:29 AM (EST) 102. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " I know we will get more vid caps tomarrow (probably in a new thread), but I found these five very interesting ones that could help us start things out! Notice Rob with green buff on knee, and Lex with red buff on arm. And all lined up in an unusual order which looks like just before they draw new buffs.   Top

ManateeBob 38 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 03-25-04, 08:52 AM (EST) 103. "RE: VIDCAPS: Survivor All Stars Episode 9 Preview " I think Robfadda with a green buff speaks for itself, first thing I noticed when they showed last nights previews. I didnt see Lex with red but nice eye on that one, based on these plus the voiceover "the tribes are expecting a merge, but watch us yank their chains.. blah, blah, blah" it *seems* obvious we still have 2 tribes, which get shuffled up with Rob on MM, and apparently Lex on Chappy. Perhaps we can pick up some more clues when the full set of vid-caps gets posted.   Top

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