>Hahaha... yeah, the game is a
>lot more difficult when people
>see you as a threat.
>Seems to be the same
>thing I've been saying for
>years.
>Amanda might be next, but she
>still made it farther than
>Cirie. I am quite enjoying
>you taking the other
>side of the argument for
>once. Give Cirie credit. The
>only reason she was booted
>first is because she's a
>bigger threat. Haha... Yeah, that's
>the argument I've been making
>as long as I've been
>posting.

I'm not sure where you're getting at? What "other side" am I taking? That you have to vote out threats? I never said you shouldn't but maybe that the timing is crucial or we disagreed on what makes a player a threat.

>The greatest strategist in Survivor history
>should be able to make
>the Finals once in 3
>seasons, right? In my book
>they do. Let's keep it
>real now. Cirie is a
>great strategic and social player,
>but the results speak for
>themselves.

In a game full of great players, Cirie's name was the one most often mentioned in pre-show interviews as one to eliminate. Did she have a chance? Surprisingly, yes if JT had been a little less of a gambler.

>Oh, and yes, the women will
>always be defended as long
>as michel is around.

Try surviving without women!!! Seriously, I can appreciate the multiple strategies they bring to the game.

>the show was originally constructed
>in two parts. The first
>part is supposed to put
>a premium on challenges and
>surviving the elements, and the
>second part is supposed to
>put a premium on social
>game, including the all important
>FTC. In recent years, the
>first part of the game
>has become more and more
>meaningless. It is possible that
>JP and MB would prefer
>that the game returned to
>more of what they originally
>had in mind.

This is the point I really want to tackle because this is completely false. Since Palau, we've had bloated casts, prolonged pre-merge and much more physical challenges. Palau, Cook Islands and Fiji even had delayed merges, the game becoming individual at F9 even if they started with more than 18 players. As a result, women have been put in an unfair position. If they wanted to return to the original format, it's easy: 16 players, challenges balanced for both genders and a merge at 10. Oh yes, Women won 4 of the 7 original format so maybe that's why we've had the changes.

And, Tublecane, much more than lack of challenge ability, Cirie lost because Terry and Aras were both immune at F4 (a stupid twist) and because the producers changed from a F3 to a F2 format in Micronesia after James' medevac. Without that, she probably wins both seasons.