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"Challenge Pictures"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 03:50 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 12:25 PM (EST)


Lex and SA and Jerri are behind Rupert



Reward Pics (log rolling)










ETA: Missed Jerri's face peeking out
ETA: Added more pics

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Challenge Pictures samboohoo 03-12-04 1
 No merge, no swap? TeamJoisey 03-12-04 2
 Amazon challenges Brownroach 03-12-04 3
 RE: Challenge Pictures bobscure 03-12-04 4
   RE: Challenge Pictures speedyforme 03-12-04 5
       RE: Challenge Pictures VerucaSalt 03-12-04 6
       RE: Challenge Pictures Brownroach 03-12-04 7
           Two Challenges = No Merge idiotcowboy 03-12-04 9
               RE: Two Challenges = No Merge Brownroach 03-12-04 11
           RE: Challenge Pictures VerucaSalt 03-12-04 10
               RE: Challenge Pictures bobscure 03-12-04 13
 RE: Challenge Pictures bobscure 03-12-04 8
 RE: Challenge Pictures I_Got_Nutn 03-12-04 12
 Rob wins again raidersfantom 03-12-04 14
 RE: Challenge Pictures Jims02 03-12-04 15
   RE: Challenge Pictures RopesandChains 03-12-04 16
       RE: Challenge Pictures VerucaSalt 03-12-04 17
           RE: Challenge Pictures Jims02 03-12-04 18
       RE: Challenge Pictures Brownroach 03-12-04 19
           RE: Challenge Pictures okaloosajohn 03-12-04 20
               RE: Challenge Pictures Brownroach 03-12-04 21
                   RE: Challenge Pictures udg 03-12-04 22
                       RE: Challenge Pictures Magic Fingers 03-13-04 28
                           RE: Challenge Pictures udg 03-13-04 29
 RE: Challenge Pictures SurvivorBlows 03-12-04 23
 RC and IC volsfan 03-12-04 24
   Would we see it? udg 03-13-04 25
       RE: Would we see it? volsfan 03-13-04 26
       RE: Would we see it? TeamJoisey 03-13-04 27
           RE: Would we see it? Markopolo100 03-14-04 30
               RE: Would we see it? Markopolo100 03-14-04 31
                   RE: Red Buff KLicK 03-14-04 32
                       Your wish... udg 03-14-04 33
                           RE: Your wish... KLicK 03-14-04 34
                   RE: Would we see it? SouperStar 03-14-04 35
                       RE: Would we see it? emydi 03-15-04 59
                   RE: Would we see it? ValleyGirl 03-14-04 36
                       RE: Would we see it? VerucaSalt 03-14-04 38
                   RE: Would we see it? Get Bent 03-14-04 37
                       RE: Would we see it? udg 03-14-04 39
                           RE: Would we see it? Get Bent 03-14-04 40
                               RE: Would we see it? Markopolo100 03-14-04 41
                                   RE: Would we see it? Magic Fingers 03-14-04 42
                                   RE: Would we see it? Flowerpower 03-14-04 43
                                   RE: Would we see it? SouperStar 03-15-04 45
                                   RE: Would we see it? Get Bent 03-15-04 47
                                       RE: Would we see it? Flowerpower 03-15-04 51
                                           RE: Would we see it? volsfan 03-15-04 54
                                               RE: Would we see it? Flowerpower 03-15-04 65
                       RE: Would we see it? bobscure 03-14-04 44
                           RE: Would we see it? Get Bent 03-15-04 46
           Forgive the crude drawing TeamJoisey 03-15-04 48
               RE: Forgive the crude drawing Get Bent 03-15-04 49
                   RE: Forgive the crude drawing Markopolo100 03-15-04 50
                       RE: Forgive the crude drawing Flowerpower 03-15-04 52
                           RE: Forgive the crude drawing bobscure 03-15-04 53
                       RE: Forgive the crude drawing Get Bent 03-15-04 55
 More vidcaps?? okaloosajohn 03-15-04 56
   RE: More vidcaps?? TanNymph 03-15-04 57
       RE: More vidcaps?? FSUGUY 03-15-04 61
 Kathy is seen, so it is Ethan colleenwannabe 03-15-04 58
   RE: Kathy is seen, so it is Ethan Brownroach 03-15-04 60
       RE: Kathy is seen, so it is Ethan Get Bent 03-15-04 62
           Rupert & Jerri? udg 03-15-04 63
               RE: Rupert & Jerri? Magic Fingers 03-15-04 66
                   RE: Rupert & Jerri? pmspml5 03-16-04 68
           RE: Rupert in Challenge Pic a98c4fun 03-16-04 77
               RE: Rupert in Challenge Pic RopesandChains 03-16-04 78
               Early show reveals pinchy 03-17-04 82
       Nevermind colleenwannabe 03-15-04 64
 Ambassador not playing for opposite... bobscure 03-15-04 67
   Excellent analysis! udg 03-16-04 69
       RE: Excellent analysis! Markopolo100 03-16-04 70
           RE: Excellent analysis! Brownroach 03-16-04 73
   RE: Ambassador not playing for oppo... Flowerpower 03-16-04 71
       RE: Ambassador not playing for oppo... bobscure 03-16-04 72
           RE: Ambassador not playing for oppo... Barenaked Ladiesfan 03-16-04 74
           RE: Ambassador not playing for oppo... Flowerpower 03-16-04 75
               RE: Ambassador not playing for oppo... Get Bent 03-16-04 76
                   RE: Ambassador not playing for oppo... Flowerpower 03-17-04 79
 Problem solved! volsfan 03-17-04 80
   RE: Problem solved! Flowerpower 03-17-04 81
       Amber... Brownroach 03-17-04 83
           RE: Amber... yensid 03-17-04 84
               RE: Amber... Brownroach 03-17-04 85
                   RE: Amber... raidersfantom 03-17-04 86
                       RE: Amber... Brownroach 03-17-04 87
           RE: Amber... blacknwhitedog 03-17-04 88
               RE: Amber... Brownroach 03-17-04 89
                   RE: Amber... blacknwhitedog 03-17-04 90
 Where's the II? Brat2u 03-17-04 91
 Winner of RC Flowerpower 03-17-04 92
   RE: Winner of RC Brownroach 03-17-04 93
       RE: Winner of RC Flowerpower 03-17-04 94
           RE: Winner of RC Brownroach 03-17-04 95

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1. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
Could be individual immunity or it could just be that they have to go one at a time from each tribe, and we just can't see the other members of Rupert's tribe.

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2. "No merge, no swap?"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 12:30 PM (EST)

Rupert The Tunnel King still has the red Chappy buff on his arm in the log roll.

Also, there's no swap. All the current Chappyss are lined up behind Rob while he's rolling.

And Ethan hasn't quit ... yet!


Lex, Jerri and Shii-Ann are behind Rupert in the spear toss because the cameraman is off to the right side of the target, while the Mogos are at Chapera's left. It's not a straight shot with Mogos behind Rupert, or the cameraman would need a good insurance policy and a helmet.

Lastly, these two different challenges... RC and IC?
The target shooting is on the beach, the log rolling appears to be at the Richard Hatch Memorial Pool. Those are Jeff's legs in light-colored pants standing on the platform over the log in the second to last picture.


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3. "Amazon challenges"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 12:39 PM (EST)

Both of these were in S6, as RCs. The weapons challenge was for individual reward:

Weapons (S6 Ep9)
Description: Survivors compete in various stations testing their proficiency with indigenous Amazonian weapons: blowguns, spears and bow and arrows. At each progressive station, tribe members are eliminated, leaving a sudden-death bow-and-arrow contest for the final two.
Winner Gets: Coffee Bar with cookies and pastries
Winner: Alex Bell, who chose Jenna Morasca to accompany him

Log Jam (S6 Ep6)
Description: Each team stands together on a platform over a mud pit. Between the platforms sits a floating log. Pairs face off in a test of balance and strategy, shaking and spinning the log, each trying to force their opponent to fall off the log into a mud pit. Last one standing on the log wins a point for their tribe. First tribe to earn five points wins.
Winning Tribe Gets: Spices and a bowl of fruit
Winning Tribe: Tambaqui



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4. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
These should be pics from both the IC and RC. Both challenges are from S6.

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5. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
de we know which challenge is which?

RC or IC?

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6. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
Nothing more but just "gut" I suppose but the log rolling has a reward challenge feel to it

Rupert and Jerri are using different methods of target shooting. S1 was similar with

Choose Your Weapon
Description
: An accuracy contest consisting of three disciplines: blow dart, slingshot, and spear throwing. One person per discipline competed for each tribe.


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7. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 01:03 PM (EST)

The weapons challenge was individual in Amazon, and what with the "ambassadors" there may be a merge this week.

As Joisey noted, Rupert has a red buff on in the log-roll and Chapera is all together. In the spear-chuck caps, Rupert has a buff of indeterminate color on his right wrist.

So *if* the merge happens this week, the log-roll must be a team RC, then comes the merge, then the weapons is for individual IC.

ETA: as VS noted, the weapons was also a team challenge in S1. I think it's probably the IC here, whether they merge this week or not.


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9. "Two Challenges = No Merge"
If there is a merger there would only be one challenge.

I think it's safe to assume no merger this week.

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11. "RE: Two Challenges = No Merge"
Then perhaps Rupert is the "ambassador" to Mogo Mogo, and he is competing for MogoMogo in the weapons challenge?


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10. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 01:36 PM (EST)

Could be nothing, could be something. Don't you find it a little strange though that Rupert is up and MM's are there behind him? Also, does his buff in the accuracy challenges look (at least to me) not red?

Either, as BR stated, merger and individual (though as mentioned usually there IS only one challenge and it is my understanding in all the stuff that has been written the merge even)

or is it possible that Rupert, the ambassador perhaps, stays with MM and is on their tribe and competes with them for the night he stays? I'm only wondering because he did do this for the reward challenge in S7 and his buff color in the second picture does not really appear red either (though we all know what good camera work can do) If Rupert goes there and competes in the RC, this could "set up" the riddle about Rob and Rupert and the "power play" yes?

ETA: IGN, I would have to say that is a good thing reading your mind

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13. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 01:37 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 01:30 PM (EST)

If Rupe is competeing in the RC with the Mogos but is just an ambassador and not merged wouldn't he still have his Chappy buff? I think I see reddishness on the edges but it's too dirty to make a positive id.

It may be a weird camera angle but what if the ambassador competes in the RC with the tribe they're visiting? It'd be a bit less to cram in to one apparently busy episode.

Bob

Dang! Well, it looks reddish in my photo program if not in the above pic.

Double dang! If Rupe is competeing with the Mogos and we don't see Ethan or Kathy behind him with the rest of the Mogos one of them is with the Chappys. Kathy is the logical choice but golly wouldn't it be amusing if it's Ethan?

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8. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
Disagreeing again, just to be different again. We see 2 Mogos falling off in the log challenge. Jerri goes this week so that's IC. Boran won the flaming arrow challenge in S3 so with Lex and Ethan the Mogos may have a ghost of a chance in what I think is the RC. Oh wait, I may take that back. Shii and Jerri are forced to participate....

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12. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 01:23 PM (EST)

We see the Chaperans drawing straws to see who goes to Mogo.

Here's my WAG.

Rupert get's the short straw and goes. Turns out the swap is just to compete with during RC and share the reward. This sets up the Aquaman Boston Kid showdown. Rupert, true to form, helps MM kick Chapera's a$$. This does not sit well with the Robfadda. Lucky for Rupert that the merge will happen before Chapera goes to TC and Rob will have bigger fish to fry.

Rupert returns home for the IC and Chappy kicks the sh!t out of MM. Lex continues his brilliant plan of making MM as weak as possible prior to the merge and Ethan goes bye-bye.

ETA: VS and BR need to stop reading my mind.

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14. "Rob wins again"
Obviously Rob is tallying up a huge amount of individual wins this time around. Looks like he beats Lex in the log rolling, making the scorecard Rob 3 (and 1/2 for smashing EZ's head against the side of the "Richard Hatch memorial pool" ) other Alpha's 0 (Beats Colby, yes I say BEATS Colby in the catch the flag challenge, beats EZ last night in the jungle run)

I am so hoping Rob goes all the way, but he just can't. No way unless he pulls a Colby.

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15. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 03:02 PM (EST)

Yeah, it looks like the first few caps are a recycled competition from S6.

The first shot with Rupert in the foreground is very interesting. It *appears* that Rupert is with the MM team, but it might just be the camera angle. Usually in this kind of challenge, there is one specific area where players take their turn throwing/shooting. It might be that Rupert is merely taking his turn and the opposing tribe, MogoMogo is standing around in a group.

Clearly, in the other challenge pic, Rupert is up against Ethan, so we do know that he's with Chapera for at least one challenge.

ETA: Note the red buff of Rupert's arm in the log rolling challenge.

Diplomatically, it would be most logical to make Rupert the ambassador though. As a "non-Chaperan" he might be safer bet with the Mogos, especially as a food provider. If Chapera wants to stay unified, and are worried about the ambassador not coming back, Rupert would be a good candidate.


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16. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
Perhaps Rupert is the ambassador to MM and Ethan goes to Chapera. That could explain the pic of Rupert up against Ethan. Also, R/C is on day 21 which, supposedly is the "crises" day and could come from the confrontation between RobM and Ethan.
If in some way MM wins IC and Rupert and Ethan stay where they were sent, RobM does what MM couldn't do and boots Ethan.

Just a thought.

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17. "RE: Challenge Pictures"

That could explain the pic of Rupert up against Ethan.

Well actually that could mean that Rupert is on Chapera and Ethan is on Mogo Mogo

At this point with nothing else, I think I will stick w/ my original post that Rupert gets the short straw after tree mail is delivered, goes over to MM, competes in the reward with them but is returned prior to the IC where we see him once again with Chapera.

For no other reason but
Lex probably wouldn't want to go and Lex is behind Rupert
Kathy already went to Chapera and it may look funny if she volunteered again
Shii Ann and Jerri are seeing behind Rupert

Ethan may be the lucky chap who gets to see his best friend Rob who he just mentioned last night

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18. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
I agree. If Rupert does go to Mogo Mogo and competes with them in the RC (spear throwing), it's safe to conclude that either Kathy or Ethan goes to Chapera.

It makes me wonder, though, why Ethan would even want to go to Chapera... Maybe MM drew straws too. Or maybe Kathy just goes again, as the tribe's official "Chapera Spy"


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19. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 03:41 PM (EST)

Rupert is with Chapera for the log-roll. In the caps of Rob going against Lex you can see Rupert on the side of the pit with Amber and Alicia (I think -- or it might be Jenna in front).


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20. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
You are correct BR. It looks like Alicia to me, too. And where is Rupert's tie dye? He's competing without it too.


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21. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
And why does Rupert's hair look soaking wet in the spear-throw caps?


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22. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
Dunno, but his beard looks dry.

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28. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
It could just be that it is so hot and the humidity is high. Lex looks a bit wet headed too. I am sure they get very "nasty" during the challenges.
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29. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
That would be my first guess, as well.

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23. "RE: Challenge Pictures"
OK, sounds like we pretty much agree there's no merge, switching Spoiler Island to once again run as tribal challenges this week...

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24. "RC and IC"
VS,

I think you called it right in your first post with these caps. I think the log rolling is RC and the IC will be the target challenge because of these pics:

The II is not on the platform with Jiffy P. in the background. Does someone see it?


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25. "Would we see it?"
You said, The II is not on the platform with Jiffy P. in the background. Does someone see it?

Here's the last swimming pool challenge:

In those pictures, you can see the II on a pedestal on the ground in front of JP's platform. It may be that the camera angle is hiding the II behind the log.

Probably irrelevant, but the platform for this challenge looks bigger to me, and Jeffy's standing instead of (sitting on his A.S.S.) this time.

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26. "RE: Would we see it?"
I did think of this before I posted. If you look at the II in the pics you posted...you will see that the II comes almost to the top of the stand where Jiffy is standing. You may be right that the platform is bigger, you can't really tell from the angle.

I think it is interesting that we have only 3-4 pics from the target challenge and many vid caps from the log rolling challenge!


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27. "RE: Would we see it?"

I think you guys are right, this is the RC, or we would see the Idol.

I think that is the same pit, but there seems to be a different platform for Jeff. Maybe they built a larger one because he was uncomfortable during the Sexual Assault Challenge.

In any case, the target game is for Immunity.
But I don't think Rupert is with the Mogos, I think that is the camera angle. As I said way up top, the cameraman is not right behind the target, he is off to the side, shooting somewhat diagonally across the field. That's why the Mogos, standing behind Rupert to his left, appear in that picture.

Just because we see all the Mogos standing together doesn't mean they haven't merged just before the IC. It's not usually done that way, but perhaps there's another little twist. Arrive for the IC, surprise merge, followed by an immediate TC boot of Jerri.


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30. "RE: Would we see it?"
I think I am in the minority in stating that the log rolling is the immunity challenge.

I think the "pick a tribemate" will send Rupert over to Mogo Mogo and he will compete in the REWARD challenge with them. Of course, that would the weapons challenge. So the log rolling is IC.

My analysis is on this site:

http://www.londyscreations.com/survivornetwork/spoilers.asp

PLEASE poke holes and send suggestions! Thanks!

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31. "RE: Would we see it?"
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Here are my issues. Maybe someone can help?

Rupert in front of Mogo Mogo pic makes me think that Rupert is the person sent to Mogo Mogo and he has to compete for Mogo Mogo. Kathy and Ethan are not seen.


This pic below goes with both the weapons challenge and seemlingly the "pick a tribemate" discussion. Notice the tools in everyone's hands. You might need to blow the pic up.


This pic has Chapera in the same clothes as the log rolling challenge. Tom is missing, and so is Rupert.

The immunity idol is not seen in the log rolling. Where could it be? Off to the side?


I see two possibilites about the timeframe of the episode if Rupert is in fact competing with Mogo Mogo.

1) Log rolling is RC --- ambassadors discussed --- ambassadors sent --- weapons IC where Rupert competes.

2) Ambassadors discussed -- ambassadors sent -- weapons RC -- ambassadors return -- log rolling IC.

Which is more likely? I'd say that No. 2 if it weren't for that darn immunity idol.

Any ideas?

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Sorry -- I should have read your excellent analysis at londy's before posting my questions! (So I've edited)

The one thing I can't remember from S7's exchange was if Rupert wore a Morgan buff during the RC with them. You show a shot of Rupert non-challenge with his Drake buff still on, did he keep it during the challenge?

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33. "Your wish..."
...is my command. One picture of "kidnapped" Rupert competing with Morgan wearing his Drake buff:

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34. "RE: Your wish..."
Thank you!

Now can you explain the lack of an immunity idol? ;)

Just kidding: the easiest explanation is that it just is off to the side and we don't see it. The crew wanted Jeff closer tot he action than before and therefore there wasn't room for it.

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35. "RE: Would we see it?"
>Rupert in front of Mogo Mogo pic makes me think that Rupert is the person sent to Mogo Mogo and
>he has to compete for Mogo Mogo. Kathy and Ethan are not seen.
...
>I see two possibilites about the timeframe of the episode if Rupert is in fact competing with
>Mogo Mogo.
>
>1) Log rolling is RC --- ambassadors discussed --- ambassadors sent --- weapons IC where Rupert competes.
>
>2) Ambassadors discussed -- ambassadors sent -- weapons RC -- ambassadors return -- log rolling IC.
>
>Which is more likely? I'd say that No. 2 if it weren't for that darn immunity idol.
>
>Any ideas?
>

I think it is #1. This would allow MB to add another twist that whoever is the visitor on the winning tribe is immune at TC. So if Rupert competes for MogoMogo & MM wins, Rupert can't be voted out. That would compel the visitors to compete hard, otherwise you throw the IC & your tribe is safe from Tribal Council.

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59. "RE: Would we see it?"
>>
>I think it is #1. This
>would allow MB to add
>another twist that whoever is
>the visitor on the winning
>tribe is immune at TC.
>So if Rupert competes for
>MogoMogo & MM wins, Rupert
>can't be voted out. That
>would compel the visitors to
>compete hard, otherwise you throw
>the IC & your tribe
>is safe from Tribal Council.
>

So your premise is that the ambassador is sent back to his original tribe after the IC and before TC?
Therefore if Chapera wins and Ethan is the ambassador, he cant be voted out at TC, thus the Jerri boot?


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36. "RE: Would we see it?"
Markopolo:
I think your #2 is right on the mark. I believe the II is out of sight in the pics. MM loses the IC once again and Lex seizes the opportunity at TC to get rid of a close buddy, but a bigger threat in Ethan.
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38. "RE: Would we see it?"
Considering we have no pictures that show the II anywhere, I do have trouble resolving a group of Mogo Mogo's standing behind Rupert. If this is a wait in line type scenario why would ONLY Mogo Mogo's be behind Rupert. Nifty camera work? Rupert IS accounted for with Chapera for the log rolling, that we can deduce because of the way the tribes are all assembled. Typically I do NOT recall tribe challenges where we see a contestant with SOLELY the other tribe in the camera shot. Individual challenges, yes, but I do not recall this.

I would suspect Ethan as I stated above being the one to go to Chapera and the biggest reason is because really (if Lex is at all calling the shots) I don't think Lex would worry about Ethan going over there and jumping ship. I think it is pretty apparent that Ethan and Rob have no love lost and if WE know that Ethan romanced Jenna and Amber, I'd suspect that they would consider Ethan to be pretty safe to send (with only Tom as his past friend) Plus Ethan being a "threat" (if you will) and a past winner has already set him up as a potential boot candidate for anyone.

I would suspect that Kathy would NOT want to go again or at least make it seem like she would want to and I can't fathom Lex wanting to leave his nest. I don't necessarily believe that Lex et al TRUST Jerri to send her and if they saw Thailand at all, they would have to think SA may potentially be hazardous to go over there.

One other mention with the Rupert shot, IF this is par for the course and Rupert is simply in the shot with just MM's behind him, we are also, quite conveniently NOT being shown either Kathy or Ethan in the shot. That also makes my eyebrow go up as if we are being "teased" as to why is someone (or someones) missing, broaden the shot then. So if we are presuming that Kathy AND Ethan are there with their MM's why not just show it then?

Then again, this could all mean nothing and everything is right with the world and the tribes

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37. "RE: Would we see it?"
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Marko,

The picture of Chapera returining to camp without Rupert was discussed in another thread. Alicia is holding a piece of paper, Amber a bottle. After some discussion, we thought it was Chapera returning with treemail (message in a bottle). In some other vid caps, Alicia is seen close up holding the paper as well.

If this was tree mail for the RC, Rupert would still be around? Maybe there are three treemails. One to send a person, one for RC and one for IC. If it was after the RC and for the IC, wouldn't they have taken Rupert before the RC, and return him right after? Rupert could be fishing and Tom simply be cleaning fish while the others got tree mail which is why they are both not in the picture. So this particual vid cap may not add to your analysis at all. Too many questions I think.

Another poster (sorry, don't know who) doesn't think that the Rupert with MM throwing a spear vid cap at the RC meant anything. He was certain it was the angle. It could also be that there is only one shooting position and one target, and MM happens to be behind him.

Not trying to shoot holes, just trying to help with your always excellent analysis!!!

Edited to add the vid cap of Alicia.

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39. "RE: Would we see it?"
It's not the tree mail for RC.

Alicia: Pick one representative to visit Mogo Mogo.

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40. "RE: Would we see it?"
Good find. So the Rob and his harem vid cap means nothing (unless you want to look at alliances).

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41. "RE: Would we see it?"
Thanks for the help everyone!

Let's keep it going,

Maybe someone can help me with this:

If Rupert is competing with the Mogo Mogos how is the weapons challenge IC?

A) Would MB allow the "amabassadors" immunity? He would have to, or it's easy pickins for whoever loses.

B) Going to the other camp just to compete for immunity and that's it? I don't know. That sounds dumb.

I don't believe A nor B is likely.

Either Rupert is not participating with the Mogos, or the weapons challenge is RC. Your guesses are as good as mine!

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42. "RE: Would we see it?"
Marko, one of the only ways I could see that happening and Mogo Mogo not voting Rupert off if he went there and didn't have immunity..was to keep him for his strength and fish. Then either Jerri or Ethan going home, unless one of then is over at Chapera and safe for that vote. So many questions still to figure out this time! But I do think the weapons is for reward. If Rupert isn't the ambassador, then I believe it is the angle of the camera as stated before that allows us to see the others behind him. The camerman needs to be off to one side and would not have the straight on shot to show us who is really behind a player.


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43. "RE: Would we see it?"
I also am inclined to believe that the tree mail comes, noting the ambassador to send to the other tribe, along with the riddle for the RC, the tribes go to RC, where an ambassador is sent to the tribes, the RC plays out-the weapons challenge- then they go back to their perspective camps and return for the IC, where the ambassadors are returned to their original tribes, and they all compete on their original tribes for immunity, the log roll, and Chappy wins.

I just don't think the ambassadors would whole heartedly compete against their home tribes concerning immunity....too much animousity could come about for the losing tribe toward their ambassador to the other tribe. Boy this is getting confusing.

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45. "RE: Would we see it?"
The visitor on the winning tribe is immune at TC.
So if Rupert competes for MM & MM wins, Chappy goes to TC, but Rupert can't be voted out because he won immunity. That would make the visitors to compete hard, otherwise you throw the IC & your tribe is safe from TC.
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47. "RE: Would we see it?"
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FWIW. I really don't think they would allow an Ambassador to compete in an IC. If they are immune (and they would have to be), they could throw it and cause their new tribe to lose, or hinder thier overall performance. Just my opinion.

I looked up the definitions which were of no help:
ambassador - a diplomat of the highest rank; accredited as representative from one country to another
Alicia reads "representative" - a person who represents others

I was originally thinking the Ambassador helped in the RC. The MM members are awfully close to Rupert in the vid cap (I know it may be the angle however). They just did that in S7 with the Rupert steal, and this is a little twist on that original idea.

Log roll immunity? The lack of II in the log roll caps throws me off however. Jiffy always has it really close. And you don't see it at all, or any legs of a smaller table or anything. Just a theory, the last time they were at the Richard Hatch Memorial Pool, it was for Immunity. Where again, hitting water first was bad. Don't you think they would mix it up and make it the RC? Just talking it through.

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51. "RE: Would we see it?"
I have always understood the concept that the winning tribe ambassador would get immunity at the TC with his original tribe, I just don't see it happening. I agree that I think the ambassador would some how poison the effort of the tribe that they are competing with.

As for spotting the II in the log rolling contest at the R.H. Memorial pool....I'm not convinced that it is not by Jiffy and that the quality of the pictures is bad enough, blurry, and the position of the competing survivors is somehow obscuring it. I have yet to see a really clear shot of Jiffy in the chair. Just my 2 cents.

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54. "RE: Would we see it?"
FP,

Jiffy isn't sitting in a chair he is standing. I can't remember him ever sitting for a challenge. As you can see in this vid cap:

This is the clearest vid cap I can find of the platform he is standing on and I think you can clearly see that the II is not on the stand with him. However, the question is, is the II on the ground in front of him? It may very well be in front of him but I don't believe it is. I think this is the RC and the IC is the target challenge. Just IMHO!


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65. "RE: Would we see it?"
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Yes Vols....this is the clearest shot, and what is that 2 pieced looking blur directly in front of the falling Ethan's face....could it possibly be a blurred II?
Edited to add that I just wish I knew how to put an arrow in!
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44. "RE: Would we see it?"

> It could also be
>that there is only one
>shooting position and one target,
>and MM happens to be
>behind him.

I think this would make more sense for individual immunity where, as in S6, accuracy was paramount. In the flaming arrows contest between 2 tribes in S3 it was a relay. You could hit the target anywhere then the next person would go, and the targets were further and further away. Perhaps accuracy would count in case of a tie. In S3 the targets for each tribe were far enough apart that you wouldn't see the other so clearly, but hey, they're probably just messing with us.

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46. "RE: Would we see it?"
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Bob,

I think you may be right. I was thinking of the S7 blowdart challenge, and there was only one target. It was for individual immunity I believe.

I can't remember the earlier challenge in S6 which was using several types of weapons. Let me try to find it on SeeBS.

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48. "Forgive the crude drawing"


OK, I did this in 15 seconds in a really crappy program... but is everyone missing the point about why the Mogos are "behind" Rupert?

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49. "RE: Forgive the crude drawing"
TJ,

Not everyone! I am just trying to figure out why they are so close too. They seem to be really close. When you look at the set up for S6, they are far away as they wait.

I think I even shared your therory with Marko above, but did not committ to it and didn't give you the credit because I didn't remember it was you. However due to your amazing 15 second diagram, I now agree with your theory 100%!

I have to admit, the diagram also cracked me up. Very cute indeed. A good way to end the night.

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50. "RE: Forgive the crude drawing"
but is everyone missing the point about why the Mogos are "behind" Rupert?

TJ,

the only reason why I question the "weird camera angle" theory is that we've never really seen a pic like this in 7 seasons that I can remember.

Plus, the mogo mogos are EXTREMELY close to Rupert.

We have precedent from "pick a castaway, any castaway" Pearl Islands Episode 4 when Rupert is picked to go to Morgan to compete for an RC.

If Rupert is NOT competing with Mogo Mogo, what exactly do the "ambassadors" do? That's what I would really like to know.

With an RC, IC, and a tribal council to fill the episode, that's a lot to get in. It makes sense that the "ambassadors" might compete for the opposing tribe.

Am I sure? No way! I'm just playing evil, devil's advocate.

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52. "RE: Forgive the crude drawing"
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-04 AT 06:12 AM (EST)

Although I'm leaning toward Marko's opinions, playing devil's advocate myself, could it be possible that the vidcap of Rupert and Ethan competing together on the log roll is actually them competing for the opposite tribe as ambassadors? Rupert competing for Mogo, Ethan competing for Chappy? at the RC?


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53. "RE: Forgive the crude drawing"
>could it be possible that the vidcap of Rupert and Ethan competing together on the log roll is actually them competing for the opposite tribe as ambassadors? Rupert competing for Mogo, Ethan competing for Chappy? at the RC?

Nah, there's a Chappy flag on the side Rupe's competing on and Kathy's lined up after Ethan.

Here's the Africa pic, much like the S6 pic, though they weren't really that close.

I agree, if your own tribe is lined up over to the side it would seem they'd be standing where MM is behind Rupe. I have a problem with the single target theory. In my pre-caffeine brain that would let us in for a very tedious, everyone must shoot with at least two weapons, highest point total wins challenge.


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55. "RE: Forgive the crude drawing"
Marko,

You are right. That is a lot to fit into one episode.

Not another theory, just bringing it up. You know they have to be told at some time when they arrive at the new camp why they are there, and for how long.

What if they take a slightly different twist on another S7 idea with others visiting a camp, and make them pilfer an item from the camp. With no preparation on either of the camps parts, it could be interesting, and last only a few minutes. Not that I think this happens, just trying to point out another instance of a non-tribe member at a camp's activities.

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56. "More vidcaps??"
There was a short preview during the basketball game yesterday. I didn't have the recorder going, so I missed it. Surely someone got vidcaps, though?


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57. "RE: More vidcaps??"
Survivor Fever has them. Sorry don't know how to link.
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61. "RE: More vidcaps??"
no challenge pics.
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58. "Kathy is seen, so it is Ethan"
I can see Kathy's shoulder (pink tank top strap), and arm (buff) behind Rupert. This is to the left in the picture of Rupert preparing to launch the spear. The only Mogo Mogo not behind him is Ethan.

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60. "RE: Kathy is seen, so it is Ethan"
Are you sure you're not looking at Rupert's wrist, with the buff? Here's another cap:

Kathy is not between Lex and Jerri.



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62. "RE: Kathy is seen, so it is Ethan"
This vid cap got me thinking

It seems like there would be two targets, one for each team.

And Rupert is so close to the Mogos, with no target to the Left:

I am now thinking that Rupert is indeed competing for MM in this Challenge.

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63. "Rupert & Jerri?"

This picture shows Rupert throwing a spear at a target, and there appears to be only one spear in the vat to his right.

We've also got a picture of Jerri competing (shooting a bow):

I don't think we've seen anyone else actually *competing* in this challenge. When I first saw these, I actually thought that maybe Rupert & Jerri were the ambassadors, and that possibly, they were the only ones competing for their respective tribes (i.e., Rupert for Chapera and Jerri for Mogo - not mixed up).

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to watch the stupid video preview since last week. For a while, it was playing 30 seconds of black silence, and now it says, "Loading..." for a long time, then eventually, gives me an error message. Anyone else having trouble with it?

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66. "RE: Rupert & Jerri?"
Interesting idea UDG. If Rupert and Jerri are the 2 ambassadors and are the only 2 shown competing, that could put a new twist into this challange. Either they are doing it for their old tribe or the one they are visiting. Something new to think about.

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68. "RE: Rupert & Jerri?"
I havent been able to get by the grim look on Jeri's face just past Ruperts shoulder. Also - If there is some sort of "face off" between Rob and Rup it could be because Rup is the ambassador and goes and wins the rewards hands down for Chappy - threatening Robs winning way. Just a thought. But I find it very interesting that we only see Rup and Jeri in this challenge
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77. "RE: Rupert in Challenge Pic"
According to the top picture, Tom is seated on the far side. Ethan is shooting an arrow from the near side. Unable to ID other shooter. Rupert in next picture is throwing towards target on same side as Tom, not on same side as Ethan. Either the two ambassadors are Ethan and Rubert, or Rubert is doing challenge with Chap.

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78. "RE: Rupert in Challenge Pic"
Top picture with Tom sitting and Ethan shooting is from Africa.
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82. "Early show reveals "
See the early show thread

Kathy and Jenna are the ambassadors (pick 3 items from other tribe to win at RC- logrolling).

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64. "Nevermind"
You're right. I mistook Rupert's wrist for Kathy. That's some wrist!

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67. "Ambassador not playing for opposite team on log roll"
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-04 AT 09:03 PM (EST)

Here we have the Chappys lined up behind Rob:

That's Jenna way off to the side with a towel over her shoulders. You can sorta see her light hair here:

Tom's not shown because he's not needed (2 guys vs. 2 guys) or wanted any where near water unless it involves scotch or whiskey. On the MM side we have accounted for Lex, Ethan, and Kathy.

I still can't find the II. There are 2 areas I can't quite make out. One is to the side of the second step of the platform, though I'm fairly sure that not where the darkish and tallish II is, I just don't know why it's fuzzy in all the vidcaps, and the other is behind Rupert's behind in 2 pics and behind his head in the last.

Bob, on a never ending search for the II

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69. "Excellent analysis!"
There's Rupert standing in line with the Chappies. We just have two camera angles, which means that sometimes the Chappies are on the left, and sometimes on the right, depending on which camera is shooting.

am·bas·sa·dor (m-bs-dr, -dōr) n.
1. A diplomatic official of the highest rank appointed and accredited as representative in residence by one government or sovereign to another, usually for a specific length of time.
2. A diplomatic official heading his or her country's permanent mission to certain international organizations, such as the United Nations.
3. An authorized messenger or representative.
4. An unofficial representative: ambassadors of goodwill.

I've never heard of an ambassador fighting against the people he represents on behalf of "the other guys." That just doesn't make sense! If the word "ambassador" came from CBS, then I'd say the representatives do not remain switched during the competition.

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70. "RE: Excellent analysis!"
>There's Rupert standing in line with
>the Chappies. We just
>have two camera angles, which
>means that sometimes the Chappies
>are on the left, and
>sometimes on the right, depending
>on which camera is shooting.
>
>
>am·bas·sa·dor (m-bs-dr, -dōr) n.
> 1. A diplomatic
>official of the highest rank
>appointed and accredited as representative
>in residence by one government
>or sovereign to another, usually
>for a specific length of
>time.
> 2. A diplomatic
>official heading his or her
>country's permanent mission to certain
>international organizations, such as the
>United Nations.
> 3. An authorized
>messenger or representative.

> 4. An unofficial
>representative: ambassadors of goodwill.
>
>I've never heard of an ambassador
>fighting against the people he
>represents on behalf of "the
>other guys." That just doesn't
>make sense! If the word
>"ambassador" came from CBS, then
>I'd say the representatives do
>not remain switched during the
>competition.
>
>---
>UDG


This is an excellent point. However, I believe EPMB uses his own evil dictionary.

The one problem is: What the heck do the ambassadors do then?

We know that the merged tribe (next episode) is on SABOGA ISLAND, not Mogo Mogo or Chapera. So they can't discuss what tribe's living arrangements are better.

Anyone have an idea?

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73. "RE: Excellent analysis!"
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The word "ambassador" is said only in the voiceover and is just a tease for the audience, imo. From the preview:

JP: Both tribes select ambassadors.
Alicia: Pick one representative to visit Mogo Mogo.
Amber: That person might have to stay over there.

From the press release and the See BS Misdirection:

The tribes fear the worst when tree mail tells them they must send one of their tribe mates to the opposing tribe’s camp.

I don't think "ambassador" means anything. The tribes will probably think this might be a set-up for the merge and they will have to choose a camp. Or that there is another twist. But they're just going there to hang out for a bit.

So when do they find out what the real deal is? I think the tribes will get a second tree mail about the RC; this will be while the "ambassadors" are at the opposing camp, and they will be told that they are competing for the opposing tribe in this challenge.


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71. "RE: Ambassador not playing for opposite team on log roll"
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Bob, I am very suspicious of the bulbous looking area right in front of Ethan's face by the second rung of the structure, if you take a picture from the balancing challenge(dicquegate), and look at the idol from afar, it resembles that blur by the second rung....seen more clearly in the first two of the pictures you have with Ethan and Rupert, I think Ethan's hand/arm may be obscuring it in the last pic.......am I reaching much??? I think you can see it best in the first picture of Rupert and Ethan that you posted. Also notice that Jiffy is sitting on this platform(which I think is the same platform used in the log rolling challenge), and that the II is at the level of the 2nd rung....this is exactly the area in question with the Ethan and Rupert shot on the log...very suspicious. Also notice the color of the table that the II is on...it is blending in with the color of the sand, camouflaged.

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72. "RE: Ambassador not playing for opposite team on log roll"
Flower, that looked odd to me as well but in a few shots it appears as a light area. The platform is just flat wood slats, including the steps and I'd think we wouldn't be straining our eyes to pick out something darkish and roundish that's about a foot tall. The area looks too thin and light here:

They usually have a special table, platform, or podium for the II and don't just stick it on a step. The top part of it's more likely to be sticking up directly behind Ethan's head. I've enlarged the pic to 8x10 but don't want to post a pic that big so I've cropped it. There is a dark area there and I cannot tell if it's part of the next step down or a slight bump up.

Since 2 1/2 to 3 feet are obscured by the log it could be there on the same table as before or this isn't the IC and it's not there at all.

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74. "RE: Ambassador not playing for opposite team on log roll"
Hello, all. After a long abscence, I have decided to drop back in with some crappy observations of my own.

Here goes. With Ethan in the position he is in over at MM, I have real trouble believing that he would be allowed to be the "tribal representative" to the other tribe, for fear he would screw over the MMs at any given opportunity. I think it is quite possible that Rupert is the Chappy rep, as he has proven in similar situation (last season) to be very loyal to his own tribe. This could also possibly lead to the Rupert/Bahston run-in, if he does participate in the rc, so I'm with that.
So, who is the MM rep? Well keeping with logic, I don't think that MM would send Kathy on one hand, because SHE was CHAPPY's choice for the shared RC, Shi-Ann, probably not, because in past survivor play, she has been known to jump sides like a shark trying to escape DICKHATCHES clutches. LEX would be too fearful of a girlpower alliance forming in his abscence, so I think JERRI is probably my choice. She is one of the most devious and nasty players in survivor history, and I think the one thing that MM can count on is nobody at Chappy trusting her, so she would be a good choice.

As far as the caps are concerned, I think it is possible that RUP and JERRI are the only ones who compete in the RC, which is weapons. The log rolling just feels like an IC to me, call it gut or whatever. It just seems like the personal nature of this challenge would be a better IC.

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75. "RE: Ambassador not playing for opposite team on log roll"
Yes, I tend to agree bobscure, these are the best pics we can work with and you've done an amazing job lightening them up and blowing them up. But...I still think the area just above Ethan's hand and at the level of the second step is conspicuously more bulbous than all of the other legs of the stand. As for the stand that the II would be on, it could most certainly be totally obscured by the log of the challenge. This is just very suspicious to me and leads me to believe that this is indeed the IC. It will be interesting to see exactly where that II is on Wednesday!

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76. "RE: Ambassador not playing for opposite team on log roll"
FlowerPower,

I also looked at those pictures for quite a while. When I zoomed in, it wasn't quite clear also. During one of my zoom in's, it looked like the item was a brown/tan water skin type thing. Forgive me, I can't think of the proper name. Like a large tan, leather flask with strap, shaped like a big pork chop. FWIW!

However, one point that was made above that stopped me from even looking anymore was that the II is usually placed in a very visable location. It doesn't make sense to me that they would string it up on the side of Jiffy's podium.

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79. "RE: Ambassador not playing for opposite team on log roll"
Hmmmm.....perhaps it isn't the II at all and just Jiffy's water bottle hanging there. Thanks GB!

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80. "Problem solved!"
Well, Flower has confirmed that the log rolling is the RC!

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/4959.shtml

Now we can move on!


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81. "RE: Problem solved!"
Now let's speculate as to the winner of the log rolling RC....We have Robfadda(an accomplished balancer re:construction worker)vs. Lex....Lex loses taking a nasty hit to the noggin on the way down(should knock some sense into him...obviously it does'nt), then we have Alicia vs. Shii-Ann and who in a million years would predict Shii-Ann winning over Alicia, and then we have Rupert vs. Ethan in a very close call, perhaps too close to call.
So it is Chappy 1, Mogo 1, with one tie?

So perhaps it will be Amber vs. Jerri, and Jenna L. vs. Kathy
Out of these pairings I would definately pick Jenna L. to LOSE no matter who she is up against....and I can't predict who would win the other coupling. So IMO, Chappy 1, Mogo 2, and 2 contests in question....I think I'll lean toward a Mogo win.

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83. "Amber..."
...did quite well in this S2 balance challenge, knocking Elisabeth out in round one and proceeding to round two. I don't think Jerri lasted past round one but I'm not sure.

Hanging in the Balance (S2 Ep9)
Description: In part 1, "Know Your Ropes," each member of a pair stands on a platform in the water and uses a rope to cause the opponent to lose balance and to fall in the water. The winners of this competition proceed to the next.
In part 2, "Rock the Boat," each member of a pair rocks an unsteady beam above the water back and forth, attempting to force the opponent to fall off. The winners proceed to the final competition.
In the final round, "Sinking Ship," each person in a pair uses a rope to cause the opponent to fall off an unsteady wooden raft in the water.


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84. "RE: Amber..."
Thanks BR for the description. I remember this challenge now and it was not log rolling. It was more of a plank that went back and forth and side to side rather than a rolling effect. In my opinion, the technique needed to stay on would be different although balance is important in both.

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85. "RE: Amber..."
No it wasn't exactly the same, but it also required balancing on a shifting surface, and I was just pointing out that Amber did better than Jerri -- round two was Amber vs. Nick and Colby vs. someone else who I'm pretty sure was not Jerri (I think it was Tina?).

This challenge is hard to call because both teams will have to repeat -- we know Shii Ann topples Alicia once, and Rob topples Lex once, so neither side will have five points after the first full rotation.


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86. "RE: Amber..."
round two was
>Amber vs. Nick and Colby
>vs. someone else who I'm
>pretty sure was not Jerri
>(I think it was Tina?).


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87. "RE: Amber..."
You are correct, sir! I just checked the archive where AyaK posted the sequence in the East Coast thread. Nick knocked Jerri out in round one.


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88. "RE: Amber..."
Amber also showed great balance in the walk-the-plank-get-the-flag challenge from this season. Remember Jeff commented on her recovery while she balanced on one leg?

Where is the pic of Shii Ann beating Alicia? Did I miss something?



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89. "RE: Amber..."
It was on the Early Show today -- see FlowerPower's post here.


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90. "RE: Amber..."
oh, thanks BR



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91. "Where's the II?"
At first we couldn't find the II for the log roll...now we know that's the RC. Can anyone find the II in the bullseye pics?

What's the concenses regarding two ppl being voted out eventually? Are they going to speed things up?

JP said "if/when there's a merge"...
Instead each tribe will compete for an individual immunity necklace. This throws the tribes off, thinking they won't merge afterall. Then, both tribes will show up at TC, vote 2 ppl off, then immediately after TC is done, JP annonces they are now merged, and tells them to head to the run down Saboga camp.

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92. "Winner of RC"
Thanks to FSUguy for posting the link for the new shot of Jiffy telling the survivors about the RC, Jiffy said that the first tribe to reach 5 points WINS....so it will not involve 2 rounds. So we know Rob vs. Lex=1 point Chappy, Alicia vs. Shii-devil=1 point Mogo, Rupert vs. Ethan= tie or Rupert wins? Which of these two do you think is the winner, it is just so close, but due to Ethan's body being lower than Rupert's, I'll bet that Jiffy calls this one for Chappy, or a tie.

So, I really can not possibly imagine Jenna L. winning so I'll give that point to Mogo....So, Chappy-2 points, Mogo 2 points, and if Amber is the balancer that she appeared to be in the Outback, and judging from the Dicquegate challenge, I'll wager on Amber winning against Jerri....so, a Happy Chappy win????


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93. "RE: Winner of RC"
FP, my understanding is that the winning tribe has to earn five points by winning five face-offs. Not that five points are scored for the entire competition and whoever has more points wins.


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94. "RE: Winner of RC"
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You are absolutely correct BR, don't know what I was thinking...LOL! So when the survivors get to the second round, do they have to go up against a different person each time?

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95. "RE: Winner of RC"
I think in Amazon they just went in the same rotation again.

I'm guessing Mogo Mogo will win this RC, just because if they lost three challenges in a row, you'd think they *might* get nervous enough to keep Ethan around this week. If they win the RC, Ethan will seem more disposable -- especially if Ethan actually wins it for them, thus reinforcing him as a threat in Lex's eyes.


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