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"*** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Before 12:00 EST, please use this thread or the Preview Vidcap thread to discuss tonight's episode ..................

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Discussion time! IceCat 02-26-04 1
   RE: Discussion time! cowboyroo 02-26-04 4
       RE: Discussion time! speedyforme 02-26-04 5
           RE: Discussion time! tinybubs 02-26-04 6
               RE: Discussion time! cowboyroo 02-26-04 8
               Saboga should throw the challenge Blow by Blow 02-26-04 10
                   RE: Saboga should throw the challen... tinybubs 02-26-04 13
                   RE: Saboga should throw the challen... samboohoo 02-26-04 15
                       RE: Saboga should throw the challen... Blow by Blow 02-26-04 17
                   RE: Saboga should throw the challen... bobscure 02-26-04 18
       RE: Discussion time! jaloochapurr 02-26-04 94
   RE: Discussion time! bobscure 02-26-04 14
   RE: Discussion time! - backwards ch... zorrosurvives 02-26-04 20
   RE: Discussion time! jaloochapurr 02-26-04 31
 I am excited. zorrosurvives 02-26-04 2
   RE: I am excited. speedyforme 02-26-04 3
       RE: I am excited. okaloosajohn 02-26-04 9
           RE: I am excited. Magic Fingers 02-26-04 21
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... Jims02 02-26-04 7
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... volsfan 02-26-04 12
       RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... FarmBoy 02-26-04 22
           RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... volsfan 02-26-04 27
 Hello All samboohoo 02-26-04 11
   RE: Hello All Blow by Blow 02-26-04 16
       RE: Hello All samboohoo 02-26-04 19
           RE: Hello All speedyforme 02-26-04 23
 New Jeopardy Champ samboohoo 02-26-04 24
   RE: New Jeopardy Champ ulalame 02-27-04 127
 Fishing Magic Fingers 02-26-04 25
   RE: Fishing speedyforme 02-26-04 26
   RE: Fishing Blow by Blow 02-26-04 28
   RE: Fishing samboohoo 02-26-04 29
   RE: Fishing Scarlett O Hara 02-26-04 30
 Parental Guidance? volsfan 02-26-04 32
   RE: Parental Guidance? ulalame 02-27-04 128
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... tinybubs 02-26-04 33
 Rated R samboohoo 02-26-04 34
   RE: Rated R dabo 02-27-04 121
 disclaimer cqvenus 02-26-04 35
   RE: disclaimer LozengeofLove 02-26-04 36
       RE: disclaimer tinybubs 02-26-04 42
   RE: disclaimer J Slice 02-26-04 37
   RE: disclaimer volsfan 02-26-04 38
   RE: disclaimer dabo 02-27-04 123
 OMH CBS has a WARNING! strid333 02-26-04 39
   RE: OMH CBS has a WARNING! Jims02 02-26-04 40
   RE: OMH CBS has a WARNING! speedyforme 02-26-04 41
       RE: OMH CBS has a WARNING! Magic Fingers 02-26-04 43
           RE: OMH CBS has a WARNING! speedyforme 02-26-04 45
 nice rack... i mean raft. cqvenus 02-26-04 44
   RE: nice rack... i mean raft. Blow by Blow 02-26-04 46
   Susie Q Magic Fingers 02-26-04 47
       Sue moonbaby 02-26-04 53
   RE: nice rack... i mean raft. strid333 02-26-04 54
 Rupert... volsfan 02-26-04 48
   RE: Rupert... Blow by Blow 02-26-04 50
       RE: Rupert... volsfan 02-26-04 59
       RE: Rupert... Magic Fingers 02-26-04 60
   Sounds familiar moonbaby 02-26-04 51
       Why thank you! IceCat 02-26-04 57
   RE: Rupert... bobscure 02-26-04 55
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... volsfan 02-26-04 49
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... tinybubs 02-26-04 52
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... strid333 02-26-04 56
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... speedyforme 02-26-04 58
       Ethan and Rich fishing contest... okaloosajohn 02-26-04 65
 Mogo Mogo picks Ethan zorrosurvives 02-26-04 61
   Ethan gets a small fish, Rich gets ... zorrosurvives 02-26-04 67
       Disclaimer again zorrosurvives 02-26-04 86
           Sue is Outraged zorrosurvives 02-26-04 106
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... GrendelsMom 02-26-04 62
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... GrendelsMom 02-26-04 63
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... Scarlett O Hara 02-26-04 69
       RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... GrendelsMom 02-26-04 71
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... speedyforme 02-26-04 70
 After the commercial! volsfan 02-26-04 64
   RE: After the commercial! strid333 02-26-04 68
 Fish Off Magic Fingers 02-26-04 66
 Another parental guidance volsfan 02-26-04 72
 Global TV Warning just said... IceCat 02-26-04 73
   I bet Richard gets too close for co... IceCat 02-26-04 74
       Dicque just dropped trow! IceCat 02-26-04 75
           RE: Dicque just dropped trow! Magic Fingers 02-26-04 76
               Well that was anti-climactic... IceCat 02-26-04 78
                   RE: Well that was anti-climactic... strid333 02-26-04 85
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... GrendelsMom 02-26-04 77
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... volsfan 02-26-04 79
       RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... GrendelsMom 02-26-04 82
       RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... Scarlett O Hara 02-26-04 84
       so will it be moonbaby 02-26-04 89
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... speedyforme 02-26-04 80
       RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... dabo 02-27-04 124
           RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... Loree 02-27-04 133
   Jeff: "Nobody cares about that stuf... zorrosurvives 02-26-04 116
 Cue Chris Farley... IceCat 02-26-04 81
   RE: Cue Chris Farley... speedyforme 02-26-04 87
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... Kokoro 02-26-04 83
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... speedyforme 02-26-04 88
       Lex, Colby, Ethan moonbaby 02-26-04 90
           Over edited... IceCat 02-26-04 92
               LOL! moonbaby 02-26-04 95
                   Now there is a naked vacuum... IceCat 02-26-04 98
                       RE: Now there is a naked vacuum... robindobindoodledoo 02-26-04 114
           RE: Lex, Colby, Ethan cranium_project 02-26-04 96
 Scheming before TC! volsfan 02-26-04 91
 Votes at TC volsfan 02-26-04 93
   Rich is gone . . . strid333 02-26-04 99
   RE: Votes at TC ihavturtlduvluv 02-26-04 100
 Excellent... IceCat 02-26-04 97
   RE: Excellent... ulalame 02-27-04 129
       No sticky guns here...... IceCat 02-27-04 132
 Looks like Sue's gone next week... IceCat 02-26-04 101
   I hope Probe moonbaby 02-26-04 102
   RE: Looks like Sue's gone next week... volsfan 02-26-04 104
 Previews and such strid333 02-26-04 103
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... Kokoro 02-26-04 105
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... speedyforme 02-26-04 107
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... PelicanPete 02-26-04 110
       RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... ulalame 02-27-04 130
 Lots of Stuff cleared up tonight! idiotcowboy 02-26-04 108
   RE: Lots of Stuff cleared up tonigh... SurvivorBlows 02-26-04 111
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... Nanook 02-26-04 109
   RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... Scarlett O Hara 02-26-04 112
 Colby, Colby, Colby munson 02-26-04 113
   Sue during IC EMT135 02-26-04 115
       And what's her point munson 02-26-04 117
           RE: And what's her point I_AM_HE 02-26-04 118
       RE: Sue during IC SnowBunny 02-26-04 120
       RE: Sue during IC cosita121 02-27-04 126
           RE: Sue during IC ulalame 02-27-04 131
               RE: Sue during IC SnowBunny 02-27-04 135
           RE: Sue during IC munson 02-27-04 134
   RE: Colby, Colby, Colby esquire 02-27-04 122
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... true 02-26-04 119
 RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update ... dabo 02-27-04 125

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1. "Discussion time!"
Is it Rich or Sue....

or someone else?

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4. "RE: Discussion time!"
I think its either Ethan or Jerri....

If Richard gets booted, why would Susan be outraged....if Susan gets booted this episode should be outraged....

I've taken my own boat!

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5. "RE: Discussion time!"
so are we assuming SUE is the one outraged???

what indication is there???

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6. "RE: Discussion time!"

IMHO Sue gets booted. Jerri gets outraged. Richard is gone next week.

Just my 2 cents.

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8. "RE: Discussion time!"
I think you may be onto something there, but it looks like Jerri will be on same team with Richard....Maybe she's outraged cuz Colby gets the sausage she didn't
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10. "Saboga should throw the challenge"
Y'know, it almost makes sense for Saboga to intentionally lose the RC. Here's why:

1. They're already outnumbered as a tribe.
2. Their camp stinks - lousy shelter, crummy fishing, no reward stuff.
3. Ethan is the next boot if they go to TC, what's his motivation for keeping the tribe together.
4. Rupert has failed to click and the tribe ain't impressed with his work ethic, he should start over somewhere else.
5. The girls need to get into a better post-merge alliance/partnership now.

I'm not saying they will throw the challenge, just that they should.

-BbB


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13. "RE: Saboga should throw the challenge"

I had a similar thought but couldn't figure out why. Nice job of putting it together. Maybe that's why Ethan is smiling in the vidcaps.
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15. "RE: Saboga should throw the challenge"
I agree Blow, although I don't think they get immunity for the first TC, therefore they really open themselves up to a boot. But then again just being a Saboga opens oneself up to a boot. Guess their chances are equal or actually better somewhere else.

Samboohoo

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17. "RE: Saboga should throw the challenge"
I think the risk is worth it for every one of them. The probably figure they're due for another IC loss and each one would probably take their chances on another tribe that probably won't lose an IC. It's a tricky proposition and I doubt these people will have time to figure it out between Jeff's announcement and the start of the RC. Well, maybe Ethan will figure it out.

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18. "RE: Saboga should throw the challenge"
Agree completely. If I ever typed that much I'd have made much the same post rather than just saying I think Ethan gets voted out along with a sarcastic comment. I do hope somebody else goes, however.
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94. "RE: Discussion time!"
WELL IT IS RICH AFTER ALL NO MENTUION OF SUE
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14. "RE: Discussion time!"
Ethan, who's in too many vid clips. He appears to be "knocked out" in one. Stupid to take that as a hint perhaps. Besides, it wouldn't be any fun to vote Rich out first. 12 minutes and counting!

Bob

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20. "RE: Discussion time! - backwards checkmark"
If we can discuss too, I am wondering about the backwards check mark that someone (leftpinky?) noted on top of Snewsters pick. Does that mean a fake pick? We shall know soon.
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31. "RE: Discussion time!"
it has to be rich
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2. "I am excited."
Just making sure my password is still ok.
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3. "RE: I am excited."
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG i cant wait!!
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9. "RE: I am excited."
Go to the bathroom now!!!

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21. "RE: I am excited."
lol..I just got out of the shower...the show can begin now!
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7. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Should be a fun episode!


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12. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Jims..I just finished ready the memo from "sleek", I had not read it earlier! I think the rest of this season is gonna be fun!

I am so excited!

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22. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Hello squirrels

Way too excited here


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27. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
WOO HOO! BOY! You gonna be with us during the entire show?


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11. "Hello All"
First time I've had the laptop at home during Survivor, but I don't know how long I can hang out. I have a little one who is sick and bedtime is right around the corner. I've had to watch this season on TiVo delay.

Samboohoo

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16. "RE: Hello All"
Which remind me, I better go check the VCR. I may not see this week's episode until Saturday. Golly.

-BbB

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19. "RE: Hello All"
Oh the horror. I hate the weeks when I have to wait any longer than Thursday night.

Samboohoo

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23. "RE: Hello All"
ive been recently having a lot of static on my SURVIVOR channel, luckily i have a source to record all episodes for me...
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24. "New Jeopardy Champ"
We have a new champ. Arthur finally lost -- knocked to third place tonight.

Samboohoo

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127. "RE: New Jeopardy Champ"
Thanks for the update. I was watching the CA Democratic Debate. I'm a jeopardy junkie, but couldn't bear to switch away. Was he beat badly? Just goes to show that there is always somebody smarter that you out there!
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25. "Fishing"
Could it be Ethan and Richard that have the fishing duel instead of Richard and Rupert? I was just wondering since they might end up on the same tribe.
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26. "RE: Fishing"
yeah sure why not?

either way, Richard is in it

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28. "RE: Fishing"
Well that would be no contest. I doubt Ethan would keep trying to win a fishing contest. But who knows, maybe Lex says, "Ethan, catch some fish and we can get these other to vote off Rich, otherwise they'll send you packing."

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29. "RE: Fishing"
Could be. Or it could just boil down to bragging rights at the IC. You know when Jeff asks how's it going in the new tribes. The Chaps say Rupert has caught a lot of fish. Or Sue says something to egg on Rich about Rupert providing more than just bone.

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30. "RE: Fishing"
>Could it be Ethan and Richard
>that have the fishing duel
>instead of Richard and Rupert?

You have hit the nail on the head!!! I am banking on this -- Ethan and Richard will battle it out for the King Neptune title -- mark my words--- As God is my witness . . . the Mogos will never go hungry again!!!!!


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32. "Parental Guidance?"
WOW, we got a parental guidance to start with


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128. "RE: Parental Guidance?"
Say hello to the new America. Thanks, Janet Jackson, the FCC and Clear Channel.

They're all a bunch of pussies. Whatever happened to free speach?

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33. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"

A disclaimer!! This could be really good
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34. "Rated R"
Parental Guidance is suggested. Uh oh!!!

Maybe Boston Rob and Amber do it.

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121. "RE: Rated R"
I think it turned out to be coz Sue peed in the pool.
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35. "disclaimer"
they said some material may not be suitable for somethingsomething. i don't know. it went by fast. i've never seen that disclaimer before. does it mean they do the deed tonight???

YUCK!

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36. "RE: disclaimer"
Or could this be Rich rubbing his parts on a female cast member?
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42. "RE: disclaimer"
That was my first thought.
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37. "RE: disclaimer"


Either that or something involving Dicque's... Dicque.


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38. "RE: disclaimer"
I think it has more to do with the twigs and berries incident!
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123. "RE: disclaimer"
The other time they had a disclaimer was when Skupin fell into the fire and fried his hands.
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39. "OMH CBS has a WARNING!"
Inappropriate material. Only means one thing . . .

Great episode is on our way!


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40. "RE: OMH CBS has a WARNING!"
Well that reduces our boot options this week...


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41. "RE: OMH CBS has a WARNING!"
really? i didnt get one

oh well...as long as it isnt censored out anymore than what it should be....


can't wait!!!

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43. "RE: OMH CBS has a WARNING!"
no disclaimer here either
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45. "RE: OMH CBS has a WARNING!"
doesnt MOGO MOGO's raft look familiar in teh OPENING sequence with Richard??

i dont kno, the string and raft...

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44. "nice rack... i mean raft."
said tom. duh. drunk. staring at alicia's boobs.

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46. "RE: nice rack... i mean raft."
Maybe he was looking at her abs?
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47. "Susie Q"
Susie Q oh my..she peed on the raft!
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53. "Sue"
is disgusting, peeing right there with everyone near her. EW!

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54. "RE: nice rack... i mean raft."
And Sue is POed about how Tom is a big drunk. It looked like it was early afternoon when he was drunk, ya know.


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48. "Rupert..."
OMG! Rupert almost sunk his side of the raft as they were test paddling!

Mogo Mogo's raft looks terrible. It is a pile of bamboo and that is it! But it works nicely!

Chapera has a nice looking rack...I mean raft! LMAO@Tom! Tom is drinking the liquor and Susan peed on the raft! eeeeww...

WOW...we are going to have the first challenge in segment one!

1st. place: Mogo Mogo
2nd. plcae: Chapera
3rd. place: Saboga

Saboga will be dissolved with a playground pick 'em!

Colby tells Rich...they have to pick Ethan first!

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50. "RE: Rupert..."
No wonder there've been no updates, everyone's glued to the screen.

Whaddaya mean Sue peed on the raft? In front of everybody?

Spoilers win again with the Saboga loss.

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59. "RE: Rupert..."
Tom wanted to christen (sp?) the raft and Susan said she had to pee so she was on the raft in her bikini and she peed on the raft right there!
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60. "RE: Rupert..."
yes she sat there and said she was gonna pee on the raft. Richard asked where on the raft and then crissened (sp) the raft the Susie Q!
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51. "Sounds familiar"
A certain Cat made the call on the tribe dissolve and playground pick after last week's show. Well done!


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57. "Why thank you!"
I didn't think anyone had noticed!
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55. "RE: Rupert..."
I thought Colby said "We have to get rid of Ethan first"?
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49. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Ethan and Jerri to Mogo
Jenna and Rupert to Chapera
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52. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"

No mention of immunity
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56. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
And they were totally scheming of getting Ethan first so they could vote him off.


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58. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Sue pee'd on the raft because Tom wanted to Christen it with the whisky but Sue didnt' like that so her pee was the Christening..

Tom called Sue an evil hag or something

MM too lazy to build a good raft, theirs actually move best

S looks good, moves slow

everyone looks like they are paddling so slow, much be very heavy or something to row...

C ok

MM wins reward (RICH BOOT now that they have rice?)

C second

Colby tells Rich they need to choose Ethan to get rid of him (wrong move IMO)

then C chooses Rupert

MM chooses Jerri

Jenna gets honour of laying down Saboga which is no more...

They all leave...

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65. "Ethan and Rich fishing contest..."
And Richard jumps into the lead!

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61. "Mogo Mogo picks Ethan"
It sounded like Colby suggested picking Ethan so they could get rid of him. Maybe there will be a twist at IC anyway.
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67. "Ethan gets a small fish, Rich gets 2 big ones."
Also Rich naked 1 time so far, for contest people. Alicia and Tom drink alcohol.
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86. "Disclaimer again"
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 10:48 PM (EST)

Another Disclaimer before the immunity Challenge. Warning! This scene may contain...parental discretion is advised. Rich starts out with shorts, but takes them off. Has to go by Sue. Chapera wins easily.Chapera shows brains by letting slow people fall off on purpose, lets Rob and Amber go most often.

Rupert (now Chapera)has trouble with the balancing at the IC.

Ethan is shown losing matche with Rob and Tom at the IC.

I assume tribe will vote off Ethan. There must be a "oh, by the way, you can't vote the Sabogas" later.

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106. "Sue is Outraged"
Previews of next week. Sue is outraged.
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62. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Colby--control Ethan's status in game; pick Jerri because he hasn't bonded
Ethan: starting over again--one big first day.
Jerri--spirits are very high

Jenna--1st 13 days washed down; was in control, now, not so much
Rupert--our camp was hobo junction; theirs is Taj Mahal
Alicia--we're gonna kick green teams a$$

MogoMogo finds 3rd key--Jerri: Yay, now I'm a part of MogoMogo

Rice-totally wet & rotten. Chalk another one up for idiot producers--didn't learn after S7 fiasco. Still need fish--Richard is happy

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63. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Ethan caught a fish; richard is not pleased. competition. There's aton of fish--rest of tribe is happy.
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69. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
How many fish were caught?

Scarlett

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71. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
a big and a little by rich (I think); Ethan just got one
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70. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
MM loses half of rice

Jerri doesnt miss SABOGA one bit. seems happy to be at MM

Ethan obviously not liking where he is

Rich says Ethan is good, not wanting to step on his toes and compete

Ethan catches one small fish, says Rich looked like there was competition and didnt want to step on Rich's toes (WOW, Rich read his mind)..

Rich catches 2 gigantic fish

Kathy loves it, let the boys compete and feed everyone else...

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64. "After the commercial!"
WOW...Jenna says she was calling all the shots at Saboga and now she don't like being in charged!

Jerri is sooo excited to be part of Mogo Mogo!

BTW...the "new members" of the tribe DID receive buffs for their tribe!

Mogo lost half their rice because it got wet. Ethan is gonna go try and catch a fish with high tide. OMG! He gets a fish! I had him picked for catching fish in fantasy WOO HOO! Rich isn't happy that Ethan caught a fish! Rich goes fishing and comes back with a HUGE fish and another smaller one!Ethan wasn't happy

Quick segment!

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68. "RE: After the commercial!"
Loved Kathy's comment. Let the guys one up themselves. It means we eat lots.


Three is the perfect number.

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66. "Fish Off"
Yes it is an Ethan Richard fish off...I loved Richards face when he said he was the only one who could get fish!!
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72. "Another parental guidance "
WOW...they are really trying to drive this home!
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73. "Global TV Warning just said..."
The following scene contains blah blah blah...
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74. "I bet Richard gets too close for comfort..."
... during the challenge...
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75. "Dicque just dropped trow!"
I wonder what freaky shit he's gonna do!
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76. "RE: Dicque just dropped trow!"
He asked her if she wanted some when he came behind her!
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78. "Well that was anti-climactic..."
in more way than one...

<shudder>

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85. "RE: Well that was anti-climactic..."
Ah but who knows there is still 20 min. Things might get even more inappropriate. I admit, I would be uncomfortable rubbing against a naked person like that.


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77. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Rich--who cares if we lose, we've got people to send home. foreshadowing?
Colby--so far, we've come in second place; now 2nd place goes home. foreshadowing? or irony?

Immunity challenge--obstacle course, get flags, can push people into drink when they meet, have to put flag back

amber uses agility--gets flag
chapera up 2-0
Ethan and Rob in showdown--Ethan hurt, but Rob hit water first
Rupert loses balance, takes dive
ethan gets MM flag
Jerri for MM
Hatch and Jenna--showdown; hatch wins
Hatch another flag
Alicia another flag--3-3
OUCH Tom takes another painful slam. Jiffy-that's gotta hurt
Tom defeats Ethan in showdown

I missed it--Jeff says "nobody cares about that stuff"--what was that?

Rob defeats Colby in showdown
Rupert still unable to make it across
Rawb has #18; goes after final 8 himself
Rawb vs. Kathy. Kathy scooting across, doesn't work, hits water first

Chapera wins immunity

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79. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Well, Soozun ain't going home!


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82. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
hiya doc.

I had a break from conferences--tv and computer in teacher's lounge. gotta go back now--I'll read the updates later

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84. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Well . . . it looks like Soozin will quit next week after she reminisces about the "Twigs & Berries" incident....

Scarlett

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89. "so will it be"
Dicque? I'd bet his tribe is pretty tired of seeing his nakedness. HEY Boston Rob just dissed my cowboy! Ok there Elmer Fudd. You the man. Wabbit wabbit wabbit.

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80. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Chapera smart, all falling off to let Rob do the final flag...

Rich rubs up against Sue or something and they argue...

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124. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Rich dropped trou (Lord only knows why) then went here's another bone for you Sue to Sue. No one, absolutely no one, not Jeff not Sue not anyone, was in any way impressed.
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133. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
>Rich dropped trou (Lord only knows
>why) then went here's another
>bone for you Sue to
>Sue. No one, absolutely
>no one, not Jeff not
>Sue not anyone, was in
>any way impressed.


On the Early Show Richard said that his tribemates told him to take his pants off to distract the other tribe.

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116. "Jeff: "Nobody cares about that stuff""
The "that stuff" was Sue complaining about having to be close to a naked Richard. This is what she re-thinks and is outraged about next week.
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81. "Cue Chris Farley..."
Well, la-dee-frickin'-dah!

Big friggin deal...

Color me...

non-shocked

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87. "RE: Cue Chris Farley..."
id expect Ethan to go home...

he kinda sucked at the immunity challenge

then again, Rich would be a shocker

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83. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 08:42 PM (EST)

Looks like Jerri's going. Despite the apparent hoax, Sleek's list is still the most likely to play out.

EDIT: Or I'm totally wrong. Woah alliance overload in the last 15 minutes, eh?

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88. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
so far the editing hasnt given away the obvious boot
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90. "Lex, Colby, Ethan"
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 08:42 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 02-26-04 AT 08:41 PM (EST)

trying to talk everyone into voting out Hatch. Sounds like previous plan was boot Ethan then Jerri. Kathy, Jerri talking about the plan and how Colby screwed Jerri over last time (hnh, she wishes, LOL).

Hatch hatching a counterattack!

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92. "Over edited..."
They had to grab from way too many different conversations to build up the 'Hatch counterattack'...

Tommorow's headline:

Dicque a Dead Duck

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95. "LOL!"
He been BAMBOOZLED!
And with him gone, there goes some fine entertainment.

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98. "Now there is a naked vacuum..."
Perhaps some more agreeable looking flesh will be exposed...
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114. "RE: Now there is a naked vacuum..."
HeeHeeHee
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96. "RE: Lex, Colby, Ethan"
THE KING IS DEAD!!! LONG LIVE THE KING!!
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91. "Scheming before TC!"
Ethan and Colby shown going out to talk. Colby saying they HAVE to get rid of Richard. Everyone is planning to vote Richard...so says Colby telling Ethan. WOW...are they givin us the boot before even going to TC? Colby, Lex and Ethan go to Jerri and makes her believe they are in an alliance.

Jerri has second thoughts and don't thinks it is a good idea for her to align with three guys that are going to take her out quickly.

Kathy and Shii Ann have second thoughts and Kathy approaches Jerri about getting rid of Colby.

They showed lots of scheming!

They are still scheming!

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93. "Votes at TC"
Votes shown:
Rich votes Colby
Colby votes HATCH
*Snake shown as Kathy writes her vote

Jiffy to tally the votes

1st. Vote: Colby
2nd. Vote: Hatch
3rd. Vote: Rich
4th. Vote: Hatch
5th. Vote: Rich

Rich is outta here!

As he screams...I have been bamboozled!

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99. "Rich is gone . . ."
And Sleek is dead!


At least, I hope.

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100. "RE: Votes at TC"
WOOT!!!!!!!!!!

I finally freakin got a spoil right, ALL BY MY LOANSOME. I'm so freakin proud of myself LOL.

Sorry, you my now return to your regularly scheduled East Coast Update Thread.

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97. "Excellent..."
I just aced my Spoiler Island scores....

I should be fifth or sixth on the list tomorrow tied for second place!

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129. "RE: Excellent..."
Good for you! I freaked out in final moments and bought the theory sending Soozin home, thus changing my picks from Chapera, Chapera, Rich to MM, MM and Sue. Ah well! Thank goodness for the early bird penalties on the other games, as stuck with my early picks on them. Ah, sweet victory for you all who stuck to your guns
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132. "No sticky guns here......"
I had Jerri as my pick and changed to Rich at the last minute when I saw the Dark Rivers post on sucks.
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101. "Looks like Sue's gone next week..."
She totally loses it!

Now that's gonna be funny!

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102. "I hope Probe"
doesn't soil himself. She was vein-popping mad!

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104. "RE: Looks like Sue's gone next week..."
Yeah and the thing that makes it worse is that Sue could have gone the other way and avoided Rich but she decides to stand there and wait for Rich to pass. She had the option to go the other way. Her going off like that is just wrong...in my opinion!
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103. "Previews and such"
Wow! Susan is totally yelling at Jiffy (and it looks like she is at the verge of bursting into tears). Saying she was humiliated.

Richard saying Survivor is fun and dang he wanted another cheque.


Three is the perfect number.

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105. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
And nobody's pre-show list is correct. Yay! Although the next few targets seem to be correct, I've decided to take this as some small hope of a non Amber win.

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107. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
was Sue humiliated? maybe...

BUT

she chose to stay there so personally, i dont feel sorry for her...

the last thing she should do is go nuts over this until it's over

HOWEVER, if Rich did "swing" it towards her, then she might have something going on...

either way, next week looks good

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110. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Actually, my pre-season boot list has been correct up to this episode. Ithink next episode I have Jerri going so my streak should end there but until then, I'm perfect.

-PP

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130. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Don't be too sure of that yet. Soozin going next week belies the OFG theory.
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108. "Lots of Stuff cleared up tonight!"
What a lot of stuff...

the outrage was caused by Rich

Sue is the one who might just up and quit

Despite the fact Rich was voted out already

Sleek and all the other LIAR's are toast

and contrary to Varner, Colby sure looks like he's playing the game, leading the charge to take down king richard, although in the process he also just put a bigass target on his own back.

-ICB

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111. "RE: Lots of Stuff cleared up tonight!"
You know, 3+ years had dulled my memory of what a drama queen Sue can be... well the "short lived victory" idea was right (the team the wins the RC loses the IC -- we were just off on which team was which.)

-SB

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109. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Wow! Now that was a great show. The best quote came from a drunken Tom... "Kiss my ass. What a hag." (referring to Sue) hahaha

I am a little bummed to see Richard go. I got the impression the ladies all decided to voted Colby out.

Next week looks very interesting! Sue goes total ape on Jiffy. I'm looking forward to it.

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112. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Poor Jiffy -- Good riddance to Sue, the Hawg from Hay-ell!!


Scarlett

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113. "Colby, Colby, Colby"
So, Colby goes out on his own and gets Rich booted. In the process, he pisses off Kathy and then takes on the Shii-Devil at TC and by the previews, she's not going to let it go. He's gotta know that Jerri is already gunning for him and would write his name down in a second.

That settles it. Taking Tina wasn't a one-time brain fart for the Colbster. He IS an idiot. Nice way to set yourself up.

Unless that's just what MB wants us to think....

I watched the whole thing. Didn't blink during the IC. So, what did Rich do? Soozin waited for him. She turned toward him. She started the smack talk? WTF is she "outraged" about. I hope, hope, hope JP tells her to either shut up and get ready to play the game or get the hell off his beach. Seriously. Throw her man ass out NOW!

Stoopid hag.

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115. "Sue during IC"
>I watched the whole thing.
>Didn't blink during the IC.
> So, what did Rich
>do? Soozin waited for
>him. She turned toward
>him.

Exactly my thoughts while I was watching. Jeff seemed much more bothered by it than Sue and when he addressed them (if I'm not mistaken), he said "C'mon guys..." Plural, which shows he thought she was an active participant and he wasn't just telling Rich to knock off the crap.
Certainly, if someone placed ANY part of their body on mine and I felt humiliated, by reflex alone, I would turn away.
Another thought: Once they returned to the beach and Sue brought up the subject, most of her tribemates jumped on board saying they thought Richard behaved badly. I wonder if her own tribe conspires to inflate this thing in Sue's mind to a point where her righteous indignation takes her out...
EMT

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117. "And what's her point"
What does she want? She is obviously mad at Jeff. Since Rich is no longer there, maybe she just re-directed whatever she's feeling at JP but to what end?

Get Richard kicked out? Can't happen.

Get a free pass in the game, gain sympathy from her tribemates? No.

Money? Maybe but c'mon.

She says she feels humiliated so maybe she just wants to try to save face by claiming she wasn't a participant in this non-event but, from the previews, she's only making herself look worse!

Her reputation is already that of the Sorest. Loser. Ever. The vindictive b!itch. Petty. Small. Sad.

That pathetic display next week is gonna help?

I should probably reserve judgement (too late?) until I see the whole thing play out but this has the reek of Ghandia all over it.

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118. "RE: And what's her point"
sue was grinded on by a gay man though. almost makes ghandia look good (ok, let's not say things we can't take back)
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120. "RE: Sue during IC"
What I found most interesting was how the editing leading up to this incident protrays Sue in a certain light. First, we had her potty mouth at the challenge last week about the eel with bone. Then, we had the peeing on the raft incident this week, before the IC. Neither of these two exchanges had to be aired. So why were they?

I suspect the public relations war has started in preparation for anything that Sue might pull in the press (or legal arena) after this episode or next. Paint her tainted before others jump on the bandwagon about Richard's inappropriate conduct. Sadly, it reminds me of the old "can a hooker be raped?" discussions in women's studies classes.

I don't know what side of the argument I would fall on, but it sure looks like MB fired a HUGE shot across her bow.

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126. "RE: Sue during IC"
Uhm it wasn't just the grinding, though imo that in and of itself is enough of a boundry crossing outrage.
He kept asking her "do you want some of this".
I don't know what world you all live in where that sort of behavior is ok. It's not under any circumstances.
How would you feel if that was your mother, wife, daughter and some man was rubbing up against her in that manner asking "do you want some of this"?
Sue may not be the most lady like person out there but she still deserves respect in terms of her personal space and her dignity. Richard violated both tonight and that is just not ok.
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131. "RE: Sue during IC"
If my mother or sister were on Survivor with Richard Hatch, a publically gay man, and she decided to stand in his way and take him on, in a physical, you-can't-pass-her-unless-you-touched-her challenge, and he touched her, I'd be fine, frankly. She chose that particular battle. There was a way clear of Rick's d!ck, and she chose the path of most confrontation. Soozin has become Ghandia II in my opinion, and if she tries to make this into anything beyond that, she demeans women who are really f'ed with by men. Bah~!
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135. "RE: Sue during IC"
These reactions are exactly what one would expect under circumstances like this.

It's like the arguments about Mike Tyson's victim. It was just plain stupid to go to his hotel room at that hour of the night, dressed the way she was dressed, etc, etc. How could she NOT expect that he would assault her? Ok, it was stupid for her to go there but is that really an excuse for his behaviour?

Yes, Sue chose to go that route because she was playing a GAME and she believed her best strategy would be to take the shortest route. She said, "good job" to him as he crossed. How that somehow can be morphed into an opportunity for any man (gay or not) to rub his exposed genitals against her (remember, she was wearing only a bikini ... it's not like she had a parka on) while taunting her with "you want some of this?", is the issue of interest.

MB drew his line clearly in the sand with the way he chose to edit the event. You can see the edit job is choppy, and much of the reaction of Sue and the rest of the survivors is cut out.

Anyway, I don't plan to continue this discussion on this board because it really isn't a spoiling issue and in our culture it can lead to some very heated debate. However, I would urge anyone who thinks that Sue deserved, requested, or expected Richard to behave in this way to remember that an argument like that is founded on the premise that what Richard did could be ok under any circumstances.

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134. "RE: Sue during IC"
Uhm it wasn't just the grinding,though imo that in and of itself is enough of a boundry crossing outrage.

I rewatched the tape and still don't see any grinding.

He kept asking her "do you want some of this".

Her whole stance said "Bring it on!" She/He/We knew exactly what she was asking for - confrontation.

I don't know what world you all live in where that sort of behavior is ok. It's not under any circumstances.

Just ask yourself one question. What was Soozin's intent? What did she want to happen when she initaited contact with Rich? And then consider who was the aggressor? Care to re-think this staement?

How would you feel if that was your mother, wife, daughter and some man was rubbing up against her in that manner asking "do you want some of this"?

First, doubt any of the women in my life would put themselves in that position but if they did, I'm cool.

Sue may not be the most lady like person out there but she still deserves respect in terms of her personal space and her dignity. Richard violated both tonight and that is just not ok.

If this event happened as I believe you believe it did, we'd be in agreement but obviously we have very different perceptions of what took place. I'll grant you that we didn't see the whole thing as I'm sure it was edited very carefully. Just so my position is clear, any physical or sexual violation of anyone is NOT OK. It's just that I didn't see any violation last night. And as for Soo's dignity, we'll, I've yet to see that she has any based on her actions in her two appearances.

I'm very interested in hearing the post-boot interviews from Sue, Rich, Jeff and the others. Maybe there is more to the story. If so, I'll be the first to say I was wrong about the whole thing. Until then, hard to see that Soo has anything to be outraged about.


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122. "RE: Colby, Colby, Colby"
>
>I watched the whole thing.
>Didn't blink during the IC.
> So, what did Rich
>do? Soozin waited for
>him. She turned toward
>him. She started the
>smack talk? WTF is
>she "outraged" about. I
>hope, hope, hope JP tells
>her to either shut up
>and get ready to play
>the game or get the
>hell off his beach.
>Seriously. Throw her man
>ass out NOW!


Lets not forget that MBhas the opportunity to edit things an episode any way he wants. From what I saw, I didn't understand what the big deal was between the Susan-Richard encounter. HOWEVER, everyone at the C tribe thinks Richard acted very badle. Maybe there is a lot we didn't see

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119. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
While I'll miss Richard, I am so glad that I'll have a little more time to gaze at Colby. He looked damn fine rowing that raft. *swoon*

I'm wondering if they didn't edit out some of Richard's behavior at the IC. It looked to me like Sue went out of her way to wait for an encounter with him. Maybe somebody spikes her canteen, and she loses her mind next week. Either that or those parasites have eaten away at the little bit of dignity she had. I'll be disgusted if she quits over that. Of all people, she would be the most used to Rich and his naked ways. I mean really. Blech.

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125. "RE: *** S8 - EP5 East Coast Update Thread ***"
Tylenol voters, this week's votee is Ethan.
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