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"Another E! Online Spoiler"
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"Another E! Online Spoiler" |
Found the link on SNN. We all know how incredibly accurate Kristin is, but here it is for discussion anyway:Liars and Quitters and Backstabbers, Oh My!
Per usual, the rumors about Survivor: All-Stars are consummatin' faster than Amber and Boston Rob--and oh how they will consummate--so, I've done a little digging to get to the bottom of it all. The upside: Seems more and more members of the Survivor camp are feeling bitter these days, which means they're singing like I hear Big Tom does when a certain tough talkin' Betty gets the ol' heave-ho (word is the ditty is "Ding-Dong! The Witch is Dead!" accompanied by a little jig). Whee! Three Girls Are Better than One--Unless They're Voting Against You: Ladies, in case you thought you were the only ones with an affinity for Colby or Ethan, I bring you a little bubble-bursting scoop: They've turned into quite the lotharios (that's "playahs" to you hipstahs) since we first fell for them seasons ago. Word is, the Studvivors have each canoodled with at least a handful of their fellow Survivorettes, and in Ethan's case, said lovin' came back to bite him in his finely sculpted keister. Turns out Ethan has dated not one, not two but three of his All-Star teammates: Amber, Jenna Lewis and Jenna Morasca (with whom he was paired when the current season began). And according to a few torch-toting sources, Ethan's relationships with Jenna Lewis (eight months) and Amber (much shorter) had what one might call an "overlap"--which the girls didn't know about until they bumped into each another at a party and compared notes. Ethan's M.O.--"No one needs to know"--officially classifies him as a dog, if you ask me. And pretty much explains why Jenna L. has it in for him, no? Scandal! According to Survivor insiders, there is something "extremely controversial" coming up, an eye-popping scene that is extremely distressing to CBS in the wake of Nipplegate (thankyouverymuch, Janet & Justin) and the FCC's increasingly watchful eye. ---
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02-21-04, 04:44 AM (EST)
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2. "Page 2" |
The rest of the story"That is fact. Now here's the rumor: Richard Hatch does something so scandalous and inappropriate (presumably involving his twig-and-berries) it compels one of the other cast members to lash out at producers for not putting a stop to it--and to quit the game! Just Said No: Though Mark Burnett contends that only two Survivors--Elizabeth and Colleen--declined invitations to participate in Survivor: All-Stars, I'm told that number is much higher, including Neleh (Survivor: Marquesas) and Christy (Survivor: The Amazon), who backed out after making it into the final cast lineup. Christy's slot initially went to standby Kelly Goldsmith (Survivor: Africa), but at the 11th hour, producers decided they needed someone to represent season five and opted for Shii Ann. Kelly was pulled from the show the day before her flight. Editing Inventions: Hold on to your tiki torches, tubers, because two of the least liked contestants of All-Stars are...Ethan and Rupert?! You heard me cluckin', big chicken. According to insiders, Rupert is more bear than the teddy bear, and according to one torch-toting source, Ethan was the dubbed the Survivor diva by his peers, as he complained nonstop and threw temper tantrums over the bleak conditions. (Wait, isn't that what Survivor is supposed to be?) Behind Behind the Scenes: Seems there might be some tension between Burnett and the Peeper Net (CBS). At last month's TCA panel session with Burnett and Jeff Probst, Burnett hinted at frustration that CBS has not yet picked up the show for more seasons, and when a reporter asked if this could be the final Survivor, he said, "I don't know...Maybe a great way to end is the All-Stars." Sound like a bit of a threat? Clearly, CBS does not want to let Survivor go--it's still ranking high in the Nielsens. And that may have been the topic of the heated conversation between Burnett and Les Moonves we reporter types spied moments after the TCA panel session. It probably didn't help that Burnett snubbed CBS when it came to finding a home for The Apprentice." 
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02-24-04, 08:42 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: I think we got something here" |
Shakes, I have to agree with you about keeping that part of her article in mind. Something struck me in the gut as this being important. I've heard both parts of Hatch being outrageous and someone quitting, but I hadn't heard the two part put together like this. It just rings true to me. Might guess would be that Jerri is the one to get upset and quit, but that would only be a wag.
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02-24-04, 08:44 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: I think we got something here" |
Do they have transcripts of her chat online? Here's the link:
http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Trans/Archive2004/040223c.html And all the pieces pertaining to ASS: From thewanderingstar: Can you give us any Survivor: All-Stars hints about who gets booted this week? She comes from the land Down Under--and along with Big Tom she'd be a really neat cartoon! From bcpeterson: What's up with Survivor Richard's "twigs and berries"? Ewww isn't even gonna cover it, is it? Ewww definitely didn't cover it for the contestant who quit because his twig and berries made her uncomfortable. Make sure you read this week's column if you haven't yet, but just to expand: I hear that the scandal happens during a contact challenge (sounds like he rubs up against another teammate). She waits until the next challenge and lashes out at Jeff Probst saying, you saw this and did nothing...I'm suing you...I'm suing all of you. And quits on the spot. Meanwhile, CBS is concerned about the raciness of the Richard scandal in the wake of Super Bowl Nipplegate--it's the same network, after all. From superphred1: Rumor is the Survivor peeps are giving out fake spoilers to throw us off. Do you know if your info is the real deal? With Survivor, you never really know. But I have confirmed the above info with two other sources, and so far, the sequence of elimination this same source also gave me has been correct, so I'm hedging my bets it's true. Normally, I'm the first person to dismiss her "spoilers", since she's had a lot of wrong info on reality shows, but she claims to have confirmed this with multiple sources so she might finally have something.
  Snarky, smart, S7 Anti-Bootee Champ
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02-24-04, 10:24 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Page 2" |
no indication as to who that "lucky lady" is...Jeff Varner prophesied an "incident" involving Richard and Kathy. Sounds like this could be it... http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/4693.shtml (btw, all of Varner's commentary seems to have been taken down from his site.) 
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02-23-04, 07:00 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Another E! Online Spoiler" |
Ethan dating three woman was a scoop?? Ya, maybe a month ago with Varner first posted it... and the same goes with the Burnett/CBS riff (Which was resolved shortly thereafter with a handshake deal for s9/S10 on in the hallway.) And the CBS/Apprentice story is a bit more complicated than she let's on... Man, I could do a better column than this woman... -SB
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02-24-04, 12:52 PM (EST)
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18. "It just doesn't add up" |
I just don't understand how we can take this piece of gossip as a legitimate spoiler. No offense Shakes, but I don't get how you can so vehemently disregard the Sleek bootlist and embrace a known gossip monger like Kristen from E! She suggests the next boot is Jerri, which I believe Sleek also predicted for this week. But let's say for just a second that her information is correct and some female is offended by Rich's "twig and berries" rubbing up against her -- fine, that's not so hard to believe. Let's just run this through some good old fashioned logic.The reward challenge is a raft building/racing challenge. This challenge doesn't seem to lend itself to contact between tribes. Each tribe is situated on its own raft, so the only women who could be "rubbed" would be Kathy or Shii Anne. Clearly Shii Ann doesn't participate in this challenge (see RC vidcaps), so it isn't her. We also have spoilers which strongly suggest Kathy makes the jury (Snewser and Vt. teddy bear ads which show her wearing the blue buff), which is several episodes away. Therefore, Kathy doesn't quit. Even without the teddy bear spoiler, we've seen Kathy embrace nakid Richard post-challenge and she's seen him naked from day one, so I really don't see her getting in a huff about it. Okay, so said incident probably doesn't occur Ep. 5 RC. Fine, now for Ep. 5 IC. This challenge does lend itself to physical contact where rubbing may very well occur, except that Richard is clothed during this challenge (see IC vidcaps). So, said incident probably does not occur during the immunity challenge. Episode 6, which Jiffy said is "not to be missed", is titled "Outrage". These two teasers might actually bolster the Kristen rumor, except that she predicts Jerri's demise in episode five. Since it is highly unlikely that this incident occurs in episode five, that's surely a strike against her.
So the offended party waits until the next challenge to bring it up -- a whole day later? Why? Wouldn't the offended female bring it up to Richard after the offense? Like back at camp? I guess not if she were on an opposing team, but it is widely accepted that Jerri gets absorbed into Mogo Mogo, in which case, I can't see her not laying into him immediately rather than waiting for another challenge or tribal council.
IF I'm missing something that validates this, please let me know. As of now, it just doesn't add up. 
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02-24-04, 01:20 PM (EST)
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19. "SNN canadian article" |
This article mentions that a crew member was fired after MB found out they gave information to Jenna M about her mother. I had not heard this before. If that is trued - then I can see them being disgruntled and having knowledge of the first 4 boots. Since the episodes cover 3 days it may have taken MB or JP 3 days to figure out who it was - then can them. They would know the first 4 boots then make up the rest. This fits sleek and how he got his info - it also fits as to why the rest is bad.
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02-24-04, 02:18 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: SNN canadian article" |
I saw that article too and had the same reaction:It has been rumoured, as reported in Friday's Herald, a crew member who worked on Survivor was fired shortly after providing Jenna Morasca with information about her mother, who was terminally ill with cancer. I've never seen that rumor printed anywhere else, but it seemed odd when at the Ep 3 IC Jenna said her mother had gotten worse and then Jiffy abruptly asked if she was getting updates, to which she then said no. And it does seem plausible that Sleek28, whether he was actually there or not, perhaps became privy to a very limited amount of accurate information and then invented an entire story line to embellish it.
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28. "RE: SNN canadian article" |
I can see a scenario where the person who got fired didn't get fired until late in the show, or even after. Two reasons come to mind, they may not have found out who told jenna right away, or it may have been a person who was hard to replace, so they had to get a replacement first.
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02-25-04, 12:35 PM (EST)
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27. "why I believe Kristen/Wanda" |
> No offense Shakes, but
>I don't get how you
>can so vehemently disregard the
>Sleek bootlist and embrace a
>known gossip monger like Kristen
>from E! ...personally, I don't think there is a smarter, more astute person in all of the entertainment media than Kristen. In fact, you can just take out the word entertainment cause that is too limiting to her knowledge and skill. Case in point, here is a quote discussing the Survivor4 cast from her 11/21/01 article demonstating her high level of genius....
Apparently, the new cast is made up of Colbys, Elisabeths and Colleens--all fabulously good-looking and likeable people. Yawn. My advice is to bring in the casting geniuses who did Fox's Love Cruise. Give me one little Toni or a Michael, and I'm on the edge of my couch cushion again.
..see, with brilliance like that how can you not take everything she says as gospel? 
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02-24-04, 06:17 PM (EST)
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23. "Who is supposedly outraged?" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-24-04 AT 06:39 PM (EST)OK, assuming the rumor that a woman quits due to twig and berries rubbing, who would it be? Everyone on the show has to know he is gay, and therefore it was not sexual contact. Why would someone get so outraged and then quit? Who out of these women could get so outraged to quit and give everything up, after things are getting easier at the camps? Kathy? I know Varner suggested a blow up between her and Rich, but according to KO Fan, Kathy is the one who confronted Richard when the matches were discovered. So that could be the fight. So putting that to the side, would she get that offended? I didn't see her in her season, but she seems to be pretty much too even keel emotionally for that. Shii Ann? Thinks the nudity is funny. Amber? I could see her having an issue with it, but I haven't seen a temper that would be needed to quit over this. Sue? She knows Richard, so I doubt it is her. Although she is an angry woman. Alicia? Well, she has a temper now doesn't she. Jerri? Again, she has the temper. I don't see her upset by this however. She has a goal to change her image, and blowing up and quitting doesn't really fit that new image. Jenna? Again, she has the temper. She has shown that she is there to play, big time. I don't see her quitting over this either. So my best guess would be Alicia, if indeed this rumor is true. EDITED TO ADD:
Avid Fan (welcome to the boards AF!) started a now locked thread with some good very ideas. Perhaps the woman offended is actually a man. He suggests that the lady is "from down under", which I guess Kristen previously stated. So we have Amber, Alicia, and Colby. As I started this post above, I don't know why a women would get so offended if she knew Rich was gay. Well a man might! And Avid Fan also recalls a rumor with Colby that something happens that hurts a freindship. If he challenges Jiffy (his roomie) on why he didn't stop it and threatens a lawsuit, that would end any friendship dramatically. Most of these ideas were from Avid Fan, and I like them. THANKS! I think the only thing is, Colby and Jiffy are supposedly very good friends. Who would do that to a friend? But a man getting outraged is much more believable (given homophobia) than a woman.
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02-25-04, 02:25 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Who is supposedly outraged?" |
After watching the episodes again, I can't see anyone, but maybe the new tribemates to Mogo Mogo, which IMO are Ethan/Rupert being outraged with Richard, if at all.Colby hugged Richard after IC2 and slapped his nekkid butt in congratulations after they came in second and won immunity. He also has said he's becoming comfortable with the king's nudity and "is it possible to call a gay man a stud?" Lex seems like a pretty cool open minded guy, who doesn't have a problem aligning with a gay man, as he did in Africa. Kathy is modest (Neleh, best move ever) but she's been there as long as the others, as has Shii Ann. I know it's only an hour a week, but the end of Ep5 will be 15 days of Hatch nudity. By that time, if they're not comfortable at MogoEgo with the King's body, then they would have said something negative in at least one confessional. Someone on the board wrote it elsewhere, but more than likely I'm betting it's Ethan who gets "outraged" when he sees Boston Rob is still on the show and not dq'd after the lick he lays on "pretty boy". Ethan is a former winner, perhaps expecting special treatment by the producers. When he doesn't get what he wants, he'll pout.
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02-25-04, 02:34 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Who is supposedly outraged?" |
I just got an email reply from Kathy and she didn't give any details obviously but she hinted that some crazy stuff was about to happen. I really don't think she was the one that quit. She doesn't seem to bitter about anything.
I don’t really give a damn which one of the two goes, as long as it ain’t me."-Sandra Diaz-Twine
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30. "RE: Who is supposedly outraged?" |
Okay, I got sucked into this post because I was sniffing out Shakes' reasoning for bringing up the twig and berries incident in another post. After reading all this, I have heard all along that episode 6 is the one to watch, lots of drama. I have also heard rumors of Colby quitting....I think that rubbing up against the twig and berries would be most offensive to a heterosexual male....I don't see Lex getting too upset over it, he seems very accepting of individuality, I could see Rupert getting upset about it, and I certainly could see Ethan getting upset about it, and Colby. Ethan seems to be drawing a short stick all that way around with ASS....since he's now on the same team with Dicque, perhaps Ethan's the one that gets poked. Why do I feel like this should be on bashers? I'm going out on the proverbial LIMB and going with Ethan on this....once again, he's drawing the short stick! ....Just can't see the girls getting in a huff and quitting over this....Jerri included.FWIW, Flowerpower
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02-25-04, 05:53 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Who is supposedly outraged?" |
>I can see just about anyone
>getting offended by it depending
>on how it unfolds. Absolutely. But to stomp off and quit a million-dollar game over this one thing? It would surprise me a very great deal to learn that any of these people had been overwhelmed by a single instance of "offence". I'm feeling that the "outrage" is a final straw scenario. It relates to someone who is already nearing the end of his/her tether in the game, and who needs only one more negative factor and they're outta there. There are two candidates, therefore, in my opinion -- Ethan, and Jerri. While Jerri has shown signs of diminishing mental fortitude, I lean toward Ethan being the one who takes his ball and goes home, on the strength of other bits of info we've heard about diva antics of his, combined with the pummeling he gets this week from Rob, and the fact that, as a former winner, he's just not as "hungry" for it as other players are, and he saw that Jenna got off OK when she decided to quit, and... well, the list goes on. Ethan is ready to go home, and his feelings are manifested as outrage over a single incident, but it's actually a combination of everything he's been whining about since Day 1.
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02-26-04, 10:41 AM (EST)
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40. "E!valuation" |
Liars and Quitters and Backstabbers, Oh My! (Blue)
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E! Online Chat Transcript (Red)...I hear Big Tom does when a certain tough talkin' Betty gets the ol' heave-ho (word is the ditty is "Ding-Dong! The Witch is Dead!" accompanied by a little jig). Whee! "Betty" is obviously Sue, and "getting the heave-ho" doesn't sound at all like quitting. Scandal! According to Survivor insiders, there is something "extremely controversial" coming up, an eye-popping scene that is extremely distressing to CBS in the wake of Nipplegate (thankyouverymuch, Janet & Justin) and the FCC's increasingly watchful eye.That is fact. Now here's the rumor: Richard Hatch does something so scandalous and inappropriate (presumably involving his twig-and-berries) it compels one of the other cast members to lash out at producers for not putting a stop to it--and to quit the game! From bcpeterson: What's up with Survivor Richard's "twigs and berries"? Ewww isn't even gonna cover it, is it?
Ewww definitely didn't cover it for the contestant who quit because his twig and berries made her uncomfortable. Make sure you read this week's column if you haven't yet, but just to expand: I hear that the scandal happens during a contact challenge (sounds like he rubs up against another teammate). She waits until the next challenge and lashes out at Jeff Probst saying, you saw this and did nothing...I'm suing you...I'm suing all of you. And quits on the spot. Meanwhile, CBS is concerned about the raciness of the Richard scandal in the wake of Super Bowl Nipplegate--it's the same network, after all. The first one sounds like an ongoing problem, while the second sounds like an isolated incident. I also noted the term, "Teammate." Does she mean, "Tribemate," or simply another person on the show? Kristin is very clear on her pronouns here. "She," and, "Her" = female. According to insiders, Rupert is more bear than the teddy bear… The Rupert thing is nothing new. (*cough* Varner! *cough*) Pardon me while I quote myself. "So, some people disliked Rupert. So what? Some people defended Wustin, too... I'd wager that based on what we saw on the show, as well as the interviews and post-season rumors, that we could figure out exactly who was unhappy with Rupert (the pre-jury Drake boots come to mind, plus Jon & maybe T, big deal). It seems that there were also a number of contestants who either liked Rupert or at least didn't dislike him (most of the Morgan tribe, plus Christa and Sandra at least)." This season, we already know that Tina, Rudy and Rob C seemed to have positive feelings toward Rupert in their post-boot interviews, while Jenna M did not (big surprise there /sarcasm).
Tina: Rupert is an extremely kind soul. Richard is arrogant but not necessarily a jerk.
Rudy: Rupert is a man you can trust. He gave me his word and stuck by it…. I would pick Rupert (to be in an alliance) because he's a man of his word and he stuck to it.
Jenna M: No, I would not have Rupert on my team nor would I want him to be.
Rob C: Rupert seems like a good guy, but maybe he should think about borrowing Colby's Shick Quatro. …and according to one torch-toting source Ethan was the dubbed the Survivor diva by his peers, as he complained nonstop and threw temper tantrums over the bleak conditions. (Wait, isn't that what Survivor is supposed to be?) (*cough* Varner! *cough*) This is rather incongruous with his confessional in E4. Regarding the storm, he said, "It was horrible. Some of us thought people were going to come and rescue us. I’m like, ‘They’re not going to rescue us. Are you nuts? This is Survivor! It’s our own fault that we built a crappy ol’ shelter.’" Behind Behind the Scenes: Seems there might be some tension between Burnett and the Peeper Net (CBS). At last month's TCA panel session with Burnett and Jeff Probst, Burnett hinted at frustration that CBS has not yet picked up the show for more seasons, and when a reporter asked if this could be the final Survivor, he said, "I don't know...Maybe a great way to end is the All-Stars." We knew over a month ago that Burnett has signed on through at least Survivor 10 with CBS. From thewanderingstar: Can you give us any Survivor: All-Stars hints about who gets booted this week?
She comes from the land Down Under--and along with Big Tom she'd be a really neat cartoon! The "Down Under" remark was totally unrelated to the "twigs and berries" scandal! She’s saying that someone from "Down Under" gets booted THIS WEEK. Which female ASSes are left from S2? Alicia, Amber, and Jerri. And, guess who Sleek listed as the boot after Rob C. JERRI. What a coincidence. From superphred1: Rumor is the Survivor peeps are giving out fake spoilers to throw us off. Do you know if your info is the real deal?
With Survivor, you never really know. But I have confirmed the above info with two other sources, and so far, the sequence of elimination this same source also gave me has been correct, so I'm hedging my bets it's true. *cough* SLEEK *cough* This woman had the premier date wrong long after we knew when ASS was starting. She said the first few episodes would feature two boots per tribal council! She has lousy sources and a poor track record. She’s a gossip columnist, not a spoiler. We can read Sleek & Varner first hand without her interpreting (and embellishing) it for us poor Kluges. ---
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Thank you for setting us straight, Shakes.
