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"EP5 - Immunity challenge"
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They are really making it look like Ethan gets seriously hurt. He is plowed over by Rob M. and just slides under water. This is also a repeat challenge of the "knock" your apponent off challenge.
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1. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
I bring the caps over from Fever:
Voice Over Transcript VO: CBS Thursday, the Survivors face an unexpected twist where failure...
Colby: The consequences aren't good.
VO: ...is not an option.
JP: The tribe that finishes last, will be dissolved.
VO: And that's just the first 10 minutes.
Sue: Welcome to realityyyy.
VO: Plus, a showdown for immunity..
Colby: Drop the gloves and let's duke it out.
VO: ...gets out of control.
JP: ewwwww.
VO: But the big shocker is who's going home at the end.
Richard: You must go bye bye now.  
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31. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
I think Ethan looks more exhausted than hurt.
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34. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
Wendy - I thought the same thing about the white zone. It wouldn't surprise me if RobM is dq'd for breaking the rules (while perhaps Ethan breaks a bone for those playing CBS's fantasy game?)... It could lead to a Chapera loss and a trip to TC.
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13. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
UDG! You crack me up! I don't think that is on the Saboga beach. However, if you look the way Ethan and Rob fall, it is obvious that Rob has more momentum or is a lot stronger than Ethan. They fall way to far on Ethan's side for Ethan to put up much of a fight.
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22. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
Going out on a limb here. Jeff says that the tribe that is the loser of the RC will be "dissolved". Let's say for fun that it is Saboga. 2 go to Chapera (but they remain Sabogans with yellow buffs) 2 go to Mogo Mogo (but remain Sabogans). Now maybe because of the way it plays out it looks like MM gets stronger with the addition of both men, Rupert and Ethan, while Chapera gets weaker by adding Jenna and Jerri.BUT this isn't a merge. The two new players on each tribe are only to coexist, not to be part of the tribe. The penalty here is that you can no longer live as a tribe, or talk all together like a tribe. You are forced to live with the other tribes at their camp. When it comes time for IC though, all three tribes compete (hence the reason for all three colors represented at IC). The losing group goes to TC and votes off a member. This would make for some very interesting dynamics at camp, same as in the fake merge in Thailand. It could even be that some people believe that they have merged into 2 tribes and then at IC feel "bamboozled" by the whole thing. I'm willing to bet it won't be Shii Ann though. So let's also say that MM loses the IC, Rich's comments "You are going home, bye bye" certainly do sound very much like he said them at the voting booth. If Rich got wind of Lex's plan to oust "The King" (because MM had the 3rd key from earlier RC and therefore the rice, plus now they had Rupert, someone else to provide fish) then I could very easily see him saying this thinking that Lex would get the boot. However, Rich gets votes from KO, Lex and at least Shii Ann, which is enough to send the King packing. The average viewer would be shocked by a boot of Rich at this point in the game, especially if the editing showed Lex being more vulnerable. I know this may sound crazy, but I think it could happen. 
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70. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
Ok. I don't usually post on Spoilers but I read everything. I have Dish Network with their version of TiVo and I sometime freeze frame my way thru the commercials for Survivor to see if I can see anything. I found a couple of things that I haven't seen mentioned so I am posting what I saw for the IC here and on the RC post.With regard to the RobM and Ethan battle, I think they go at it twice. If you watch real slow, in the first set of clips that are close up you can see that Rob is grabbing Ethan from the back of the thighs, from upper thigh sliding his hands down towards his knees to up end him. When the shot moves to a further out shot, Rob's hand are on Ethan's back and Ethan's shorts are being pulled upwards with a lot of thigh showing. Also, it the wide shot, Ethan is looking to his right and down toward the water when he falls yet when you move to the next shot of him with his head and arm over the end of the 'pool' he is looking the opposite way with the opposite arm over the edge. Also on the wide shot when Ethan hits the edge, he seems to bounce back towards the water, not really land with a thud and slide into the water. Also, when I look at the shot of Jerri with her mouth open in what everyone thinks is her reaction to Jeff's announcement of the tribe being dissolved. I think this is actually her seeing Ethan get hurt. The sky and background on the Jerri shot is much greyer, like a cloudy sky and the Alicia shot before it has a brighter blue clearer sky background. Also, not sure if anyone can make anything out of the shot of people walking to tribal council, but it looks like 5 people walking and the first person is dressed in light color cloths, maybe a yellow top (Ethan) that is sort of reflecting the light. Ok feel free to pick holes at this. 
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6. "RE: Vid Caps" |
OK so the loser of the RC gets dissolved but there are still 3 colored flags and two parts to the Immunity Idol. Who would be shocking to go home? Moga Moga
Richard - no everyone would expect that one
Colby - Maybe he's pretty strong
ShiiAnn - no - not a shock value there
Lex - Yes that would be a shocker
Kathy - That would be a huge shock Saboga
Jenna L - Not really
Rupter - After building 2 losing RC's - not a shocker at all
Jerri - kinda but not really
Ethan - No not at all especially since they are playing up his injury Chapera
Tom - Well maybe
Amber - Sorta but not really
Sue - Not at all
Alicia - Not at all
Rob M - Huge shock - he seems to have it under control So my biggest shocks would be: Rob M - Lex - Kathy - Colby
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14. "Rich/Colby/Rupert" |
I think you get this type of promo only for one of the big guns being evicted. That being Rich, Colby, or Rupert. Since we somewhat expect Rich and Colby to be out before the final merger, this isnt as big of a shock to us, but any of these people would be to the general viewing audience. I go back to the provider comments in the misdirection. Two men battle it out to see who is most useful to their trive. I think it says Rupert and Rich go head to head in the providing department and that one of them walks the plank... my money is on Rich. The only problem I have is Ethan is clearly on MogoMogo so how do they wind up with both Ethan and Rupert? When the tribes are disolved do they have them reach in a bucket and draw a buff? If that happens how does Mogo Mogo LOOSE this challenge??? Lots of questions and lots of clues too, but making sense of it is the question. -ICB
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02-20-04, 03:22 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Rich/Colby/Rupert" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-04 AT 03:42 PM (EST)Ethan is clearly on Mogo Mogo? I must have missed that. Ok. I understand this now. My bad. If so, then Mogo^2 wins RC and they get to pick first and they pick Ethan of the dissolved Saboga tribe... Also, Richard is quoted as saying "it's time for you to go bye bye". This sounds like what would be said in the voting booth. Does this not imply that Mogo^2 loses IC and so has to go to TC? In which case, Richard, Rupert, Lex and Colby could all be on the chopping block. Edited because I've gotten my tribe names mixed up. 
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20. "RE: Rich/Colby/Rupert" |
Maybe I'm missing something here. What I see are 2 banners with all three colors on each - I don't see any tribal flags. Aren't the tribal flags all one color - one color for each tribe? Someone clue me in please.
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02-20-04, 03:37 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Rich/Colby/Rupert" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-20-04 AT 03:38 PM (EST)>Ethan is clearly on Mogo Mogo? I must have missed that. Ok, let me restate this. Clearly Shii Ann is still wearing Green and Rob is still wearing Red at the bamboo challenge where Jeff is sitting on the lifegaurd chair with the Immunity Idol underneath. Since Rob and Ethan are facing off against each other, they can NOT be on the same tribe. One thing I noticed though is Shii Ann (in Green) is on the same side of the platform that Rob and Tom start from (perhaps its just an odd angle). Could it be that MM does loose and is disolved afterall, but Shii Ann has some other piece of clothing that has a green theme to it... or perhaps they let them keep their old buffs??? -ICB
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02-21-04, 12:45 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
First, some ASSumptions...1. We know that the tribe that loses RC is dissolved. We can assume that it's members are absorbed into the two tribes that remain intact. 2. The IC pics and other spoiler info indicate that red and green survive. We can assume Saboga loses the RC. 3. BIG assumption to follow, but let's go ahead anyway. Tribe that wins RC gets first pick off the losing RC tribe. If Tom sits out for Chapera, the rowers are Robamber, Sue and Alicia - lots of upper body strength and not a lot of body weight. Chapera wins RC and selects Rupert. Mogo takes Ethan. Nobody wants Jerri (they don't know about her recent personality transplant - only her reputation) so Chapera gets Jenna. Jerri to Mogo. I bet we'll see a lot of smack talk by Chapera after RC about how they are rolling and unbeatable, etc.. Great set-up for an IC loss. 4. Mogo now has four strong men, Chapera only three. At some point in the IC, we've got a battle of the sexes. If Rob gets disqualified for his battle (again, assumptions) and Tom can't stay on the beam (tho this looks pretty obvious), this mixed gender battle could make the difference. As strong as Alicia is and as manlike as Soozin is, I don't think either has a chance against Rich/Lex/Colby. 5. Let's throw in Rich's comment in the preview - the time to go bye, bye thing. I'm thinking classic preview misdirection. We are supposed to believe that he is talking about someone on his own tribe but maybe this is a comment about the losing RC tribe. As in, "They'll be in the minority on their new tribes. Too bad, time for you to go bye, bye," or something to that effect. At this point, I'm leaning toward a Mogo victory.
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02-21-04, 03:21 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
i like this line of thinking, and it seems to fit the clues the best. rich's quote is the only sticking point, but you have put forward a very plausible explanation.so, if we have Tom/Rob/Amber/Alicia/Susan/Rupert/Jenna on Chappy, and they go to TC, who is the boot? Tom/Rob/Amber seem to be tight, which would suggest an ex-Saboga is in trouble, unless Alicia/Sue BOTH realize they aren't in the core alliance, which seems highly unlikely - survivors usually take the path of least resistance - OR the ex-Sabogas have immunity for an episode. alternately, R/J could use A/S scheming against them to get closer to the T/A/R core. Which means A/S are the targets, and Sue the prime one. We have seen lists with Tom, Rob, Amber, Rupert, and Jenna in the F4, and despite sleek being discredited, I'm willing to bet its closer to right than not - like CO, it will probably be close enough to right that some will still find it viable, but at least one, and maybe both of Rob and Amber miss F2. So I'm leaning toward Chappy losing IC, and booting SUE at TC, either because Rupert and Jenna take Alicia and Sue's place in the alliance, or because they are immune for one trip to TC. Of course, I'll still be hoping they wise up and boot Doofus Rob.
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37. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
_HE man, looks like we are in agreement. I always did think you were a very wise spoiler!  Robtomamber do indeed look very tight. Rob himself offered up Rob6, Alicia and Sue as potential boots before E4 TC. Alicia is probably their fourth with Soozin the most expendable based on annoyance factor alone. But, an alliance of five can be tricky to maintain in the long run. Whatever one thinks of Rob4, I'm starting to believe he's a much better player than he showed in Marquesas when he was just an idiot and every move was the wrong one. My guess is that the core Chapera alliance sees Rupert as an asset, both in challenges and as a provider, based on what they saw of Pearl Islands, so they'll want to keep him around for a while. Jenna, to their knowledge, is no real threat (little do they know that she's been pretty much calling the shots over in Saboga) so what to do if they go to TC? Secure Alicia and eliminate Soozin as a potential troublemaker later in the game and as a current annoyance, especially to Big Tom. Offer Jenna and Rupert some security by offering up Soozin. Lead them to believe that Alicia would be next, just in case, and they are the F5, thereby preventing any possible hook up with the Chapera outsiders. Jenna has no winners to target in Chapera but Soozin was F4 in Borneo and helped to vote her out. Jenna won't need much more incentive to bring Rupert along to Robtomamber.
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02-23-04, 06:52 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: EP5 - Immunity challenge" |
This also fits in with the theory that the team that wins the TC dosnt do well in the IC.RedBeard
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38. "Immunity challenge Thoughts" |
Just some thoughts from a Newbie, I initially put some of these in the Web Promo Thread, but I think they're better suited here.Challenge DetailsI think this is a combination of "Bamboozled" from Borneo and "Pilfering Pirates" from Thailand. Here are the descriptions from the CBS site. Bamboozled Description: A combination balance/elimination competition involving a tightrope race across segments of bamboo poles. Pilfering Pirates Description: The Survivors must race across a narrow bamboo course set over water in order to heist supply baskets from the opposing team's boat. Along the way there is an "attack zone" where the Survivors may physically push one another off the course. First tribe to collect ten baskets of supplies and return back to their boat wins. Here's how I think it plays out. Each remaining tribe(it seems to be Mogo Mogo and Chapera)starts out with all members on a platform. The platforms are connected by a series of Bamboo bridges. Halfway between, there a "common platform", this is the platform we see in the following picture with the "attack zone". This is the only point where both team's routes overlap. 
The idea is for each team to move from the starting platform to their finish platform, first team to get all member's across wins. The way it works is each team sends one member at a time (so for example, Chapera sends Rob, Mogo Mogo sends Lex). If you fall off, you have to go back to the start and start over. The only time you can physically try to knock someone off is if both of you are in the white "attack zone". This would explain a few things: - It explains why it appears that Shi-Anne is on the same side the Rob and Tom are coming from. She may have already finished crossing over. - It explains why we see Tom running (and nearly falling off) with seemingly no one around. Perhaps someone from Mogo Mogo has fallen off (or already crossed over) and Tom is trying to get across the "attack zone" unchallenged, before anyone from Mogo Mogo can get there.
Now here is some specualtion with regards to whether Rob is breaking the rules in his attack on Ethan. In the preview, when he first hits Ethan in the zoomed in shot, you can see Rob taking 1-2 steps, then it cuts to the wide shot and we see them falling off. If you look at where they are falling from, and account for the 1-2 steps Rob took, it is quite possible that they were both in the attack zone when initial contact was made.
Finally here is some wild speculation about the team getting "disolved". One interesting point made is that you can not see a buff on Ethan anywhere. Now it is very possible that he simply has his buff on his right wrist (note that you cannot see his right wrist in any of the shots available). But here's another possibility. May be he no longer has a buff. Maybe when the tribe that loses get's dissolved, the team get's split up (two go to live with Mogo Mogo, Two go to live with Chapera) but they do not join that tribe. They just live there (just like the co-habitating in Thailand). When it comes time for the immunity challange, even if the team they are living with wins immunity, they are still vulnerable. So say for example Jenna and Jerri go to Chapera, and Rupert and Ethan go to Mogo Mogo, and Mogo Mogo wins immunity. Then when Chapera goes to Tribal council, not only do Jenna and Jerri go as well, but so do Ethan and Rupert. Now I know that is highly speculative, just wanted to throw that out there to see what others think. zolstice
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02-23-04, 07:50 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Kathy Pic" |
There is also a picture of Jenna very happy with both hands fisted. I cant get it to come up - but Here is another thought. If everyone is able to keep their original colors then what makes everyone think Chapera wins? (I also think this but havent seen anyone mention this)
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02-23-04, 11:58 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Kathy Pic" |
pmspml5,Here is the vid cap you are talking about. P in P poor quality, sorry. Looking at the second vid cap which is the tribe walking on the beach toward the RC (IC has green all around and is not on beach), it appears that the smile picture is from the RC. I am wondering if it is where they describe the Reward. I know the big loser, loses big, but there should be a reward too. I always found it funny that they get so excited about the reward before they play for it. Anyway, that is my theory about the smile picture. 
I also agree with you. I do not know why everyone is so sure Chapera wins the RC. It seems with the three colored flags, that we are unsure if the buffs seen mean anything. Also, they show Chapera taking the challenge lightly (drunk Tom and goofing around in making the raft). Anyway, I am still trying to figure it out and not just go with the majority this time. I hate being a sheep, and I have done just that most weeks. 
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02-24-04, 07:53 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: Kathy Pic" |
>I do not know why everyone is so sure that Chapera wins RC<I totally agree with that statement GetBent! If Rupert and Ethan both end up on Mogo Mogo, so that Rupert can have his fishing "king Neptune" showdown with Dicque, it would seem logical to me that Mogo Mogo indeed wins reward.....however, one could than deduce that they go on to lose the IC....don't know how with Rupert, Colby, Lex, Dicque, and Ethan vs. Drunk Tom, Rob M., Alicia, and harem....
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50. "RE: Kathy Pic" |
I assumed that Drunk Tom was sitting out the challenge. The others work and Tom drinks. That would be enough to make Sue upset. And Rob does mention that they have a waterbed for Tom. Meaning Tom didn't help build it.
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02-23-04, 11:44 PM (EST)
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45. "Lex or Ethan?" |
OK crew, what do you think. Is the person fighting Tom Ethan or could it be Lex?
In the second vid cap it looks like his arm is discolored, tattoos? If it is Lex, we have Tom and Rob with Chapera colors, Tom (from L side - note picture appears to be from other side of pond, so R=L in this fight sequence) fighting Lex (from R), and Rob (from L) fighting Ethan (from R), and Jenna (from R) fighting Richard (from L). This would have Rich and Lex on opposite teams, splitting up Mogo Mogo, which could be why we see Shii Ann coming up along on the side from the L in the sequence where Tom falls all by himself. Someone in another thread thought it was Tom tossing Ethan. I agree it is probably Tom. Not convinced about Ethan yet. What do y'all think?
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49. "RE: Lex or Ethan?" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-24-04 AT 08:09 AM (EST)The stronger of the two, who remains on the planks and throws the other off has a buff on his head, so who wears a buff on his head like that. 1. Tom-and we know that Tom indeed wears his buff on his head like this in this particular challenge. 2. Colby-has also been seen in ASS with his buff like this. 3. Lex-never had a buff on his head like this in ASS 4.Dicque-seen in this challenge with no buff on his head 5.Ethan-again, seen in this challenge with no buff anywhere 6. Rob M-seen in this challenge with no buff on his head 7.Rupert-no way Therefore, the winner of this mix is either Tom or Colby. The loser of this mix is not: too thin to be Dicque, definately not Rupert, an awful lot of hair to be Colby...his is thinner. So, although I really don't see much on his back, I think I can see some tattoos on the arms....must be LEX If I had to guess, I'd say this is Big ole drunk Tom throwing Lexxy boy off. So we have Rob M. beating Ethan, Dicque beating Jenna L., Tom beating Lex....so far, my money is on Chappy!
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02-24-04, 07:47 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Lex or Ethan?" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-24-04 AT 07:48 PM (EST)>.....hmmm a picture of big Tom wearing the same thing he
>wore at the IC, but looking a little sad???? So Mogo Mogo is the winner after all? And Chapera will go to the Tribal Council . . . Hmmm . . . 
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02-24-04, 07:46 PM (EST)
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57. "Ballance" |
I think ballance is the key to this challenge.If both Ethan and Rupert are added to Mogo Mogo, while that certainly gives them an advantage in the "attack zone" it actually hurts them on the other parts of the challenge. IMO - Chappera with the lighter nimbler contestants, wins easily. -ICB
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64. "RE: Ballance" |
Dont know - but If Mogo Mogo wins RC then I think they lose IC
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02-26-04, 02:23 PM (EST)
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71. "IC Winner" |
We have been assuming that since the CBS websight says that the RC winners celebration doesnt last long - they loose IC. Now that Snewser has picked Richard to leave then Mogo Mogo loses IC and Chapera/Saboga wins. But I can not see Mogo Mogo picking Ethan over Rupert unless they figure its one more previous winner for us so we are guaranteed 6 more days on this island. There is just a little part of me that thinks Chapera wins both or better yet - How about this - Chapera looses IC goes to tribal counsel and they are told there that a player from Mogo Mogo has been disqualified and therefore no vote is necessary - that would be hugely shocking to me.
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