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PLEASE NOTE: The Reality TV World Message Boards are filled with desperate
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As entertainment critic Roger
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"These women need so much more than SO"
yankeesuk 12 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 02:30 PM (EST)
 
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1. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
As a Christian I'm sure your accepting of the fact that everyone has a different path and what works for one person may not work for another. There is no one right way to heal oneself.Remember, most of these women are confronting their issues for the FIRST time. So, a few weeks of crying or venting is a drop in the bucket and not the same as ten years of crying and venting. However, I do agree with you that most of the houseguests need so much more than a life coach. I often worry about some of them, particularly ones who have been abused, because I don't believe the life coaches (or even Dr. Stan) have the experience, education or knowledge of how to help. I hope the show is responsible enough to set most of these women up with a counselor in their hometown. At the very least, I think they'll need the support transitioning from the show to real life.
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horsewhisperer 95 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 05:03 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
Yes, yankeesuck (love that), I spent many years working to help abused children and adults. The women of the starting over house need intensive psychotherapy. Many of the assignments are rediculous at best, and damaging at worst. I am concerned about this particular group of women. SO is not an appropriate place for them to be. Shame on SO for exploiting women for the sake of ratings.
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jaymcee 107 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 03:33 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
Well, I don't know, but maybe next season, Jesus Christ, himself, can be a life coach upstaging Rhonda's and Iyanla's antics, working all sorts of miracles..so much so the house is no longer needed...freeing up an hour in my life each day to....pray.
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tendr 61 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 07:43 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
if we acted like Christ, there'd be no fighting about anything in here and no bashing the ladies but instead an actual compassion of putting another person before ourselves.ya think?
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LovetowatchSO 7 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 08:25 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
I appreciate your posts, my point is that although therapy has it's place and can be helpful, it really can't get in down deep into the true "root" of our problems. The reason why we continue to suffer is that we all have a "God-shaped hole" that as we are seperated from Christ we try to fill it with anything and everything. Like excessive amounts of therapy, shopping, smoking, drinking, gambling, drugs, sex, eating, pretty much anything. And yes, we feel better for a little while and then those issues and that void pops up again. I know because I have experienced all of these symptoms. And I have seen many come to Christ that have.
So although therapy can truly be a lifesaver, look at people like Allison, Josie, etc. who have gone above and beyond traditional therapy and yet they are still in the same place emotionally. I am sure some of you can think of friends or family in your life that are like what I am describing. They go to therapy and they have their "ah-ha" moment and then a few months later, those old demons(not literally) pop up again, haven't you ever wondered why? Or for yourself, why am I not fulfilled? It seems like I should be happy but I truly don't have that inner-peace.
That's what I am saying. Therapy like almost anything, can be in and of it self an addiction. Serving self instead of God, doesn't get you anywhere. And I myself am highly flawed, I am by no means, whatsoever, perfect, or even close. The Bible tells that we ALL fall short of the Glory of God. We all struggle with sin constantly, but when we surrender our lives to Christ; then we have that true peace and guidance and over time through Him alone; true healing.
I am glad that these women are there and hopefully on the right path. But my point is that these issues will continue to come up time and time again until they fill that hole inside with the Lord.
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azsk8fan 172 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 11:58 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
>I appreciate your posts, my point
>is that although therapy has
>it's place and can be
>helpful, it really can't get
>in down deep into the
>true "root" of our problems.
>The reason why we continue
>to suffer is that we
>all have a "God-shaped hole"
>that as we are seperated
>from Christ we try to
>fill it with anything
>and everything. Like excessive amounts
>of therapy, shopping, smoking, drinking,
>gambling, drugs, sex, eating, pretty
>much anything. And yes, we
>feel better for a little
>while and then those issues
>and that void pops up
>again. I know because I
>have experienced all of these
>symptoms. And I have seen
>many come to Christ that
>have.
>So although therapy can truly be
>a lifesaver, look at people
>like Allison, Josie, etc. who
>have gone above and beyond
>traditional therapy and yet they
>are still in the same
>place emotionally. I am sure
>some of you can think
>of friends or family in
>your life that are like
>what I am describing. They
>go to therapy and they
>have their "ah-ha" moment and
>then a few months later,
>those old demons(not literally) pop
>up again, haven't you ever
>wondered why? Or for yourself,
>why am I not fulfilled?
>It seems like I should
>be happy but I truly
>don't have that inner-peace.
>That's what I am saying. Therapy
>like almost anything, can be
>in and of it self
>an addiction. Serving self instead
>of God, doesn't get you
>anywhere. And I myself am
>highly flawed, I am by
>no means, whatsoever, perfect, or
>even close. The Bible tells
>that we ALL fall short
>of the Glory of God.
>We all struggle with sin
>constantly, but when we surrender
>our lives to Christ; then
>we have that true peace
>and guidance and over time
>through Him alone; true healing.
>
>I am glad that these women
>are there and hopefully on
>the right path. But my
>point is that these issues
>will continue to come up
>time and time again until
>they fill that hole inside
>with the Lord. If this doesn't sound like a sermon then I don't know what WOULD constitute a sermon - offering conjecture that maybe these women need more than what the LC can give them is one thing but when you start to write that because someone eats , smokes,gambles, has sex, too much etc. that they are trying to fill some kind of 'God-shaped hole' that certainly sounds like preaching to me and it doesn't belong on this board, at least not IMHO - but you're right - I will, from this point on refrain from reading your posts as I CHOOSE to simply talk about the SO House and all it's goings on without having someone give me an armchair diagnosis about the excesses in my life.
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Nann 34 desperate attention whore postings
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11-21-05, 03:18 PM (EST)
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21. "Don't Read the Thread If You Don't Want a Sermon!" |
Hey, this is America and there is a very high percentage of the population of America (and the world) who DO like Sermons and go to church to hear their pastor's Sermon every Sunday!Yeah, and this is America and Americans have Freedom of Speech --and Freedom of Religion -- do you want to argue that or deny another American that??? This poster doesn't offer conjecture, she offers her opinion based on her life experience. There is also nothing wrong with preaching, the same as there is nothing wrong with a Sermon. Being a Preacher is the life occupation of many good people. For some reason the Christian bashers just can't resist reading the entire thread of the Christian poster "IlovetowatchSO" and SQUAWKING!
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wholovesyou 66 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 08:37 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
EfanTerrible...it was not my intention to personally attack you, however, if that's the way you see it, I sincerely do apologize. I am sorry.
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ltlfighter 173 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 09:00 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
I have to say, being on the S.O. boards I'm really surprised to see such a serious religious slant to the discussion. I have to
agree, that religion is a very personal issue and this is probably not the best forum for that discussion.
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azsk8fan 172 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-05, 11:51 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
Your original post stated that the women needed so much more than SO......... that could be taken to mean many things (like maybe some REAL psychiatric help) besides just meaning that they need Christ in their life -
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Nann 34 desperate attention whore postings
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11-21-05, 03:35 PM (EST)
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22. "SO House Devoid of Religion" |
I disagree. Religion supports a person's journey though life, whatever form that religion takes. Since religion is a huge part of people's lives in the world, it is appropriate to how it relates to women's psychological and social problems. I am wondering why the SO House is devoid of the topic of religion. Possibly network industry standards.
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Owl 2 desperate attention whore postings
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11-20-05, 07:42 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: These women need so much more than SO" |
your quote:> This is brought me to start more exploration in my life as to the deeper meaning of life and what it means to be human. I agree! Isn't it great to know you have a choice to be guilt free and without the belief that God only hears prayers from a person of a certain religion!
Bravo! Keep expanding your human-self, your soul knows the way! your quote:> the same qualities that one might find in those who profess to be Christians. I hear you loud and clear! Bright Blessings To All
/<">\ .... Owl
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Nann 34 desperate attention whore postings
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11-21-05, 03:56 PM (EST)
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23. "Is Iyanla Christian? " |
I don't think it is appropriate to speak for Iyanla, whether she follows the Christian faith or not. I do know that in her book, "Faith in the Valley" she continually mentions God, angels, Eden, beacon of light, the valley, faith, etc. And says, "To God, My Father, My Mother, the spirit through which I live. I continue to surrender my will, my way, the fear that I won't do it right, on time, or in a way that makes people happy. Finally, I understand that God Is Enough!" She also in the Acknowledgments at the beginning of the book lists Reverend Dr. Fernette Nichols, "whose sermons on tape kept me grounded and in the spirit during my labor to birth this book." Iyanla is also an Ordained Minister.
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Nann 34 desperate attention whore postings
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11-21-05, 04:31 PM (EST)
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24. "Is Iyanla Christian?" |
In her book, "Faith in the Valley" Iyanla speaks of "God the Creator, the Holy Spirit, the Bible, the Psalms, and biblical characters, Zebedee, Jabez, etc. She mentions the Reverend Willie Wilson of Union Temple Church in Washington, D.C.Iyanla says, "Throughout this book I have used the terms God, Spirit, S/he, Her/Him. This was my attempt to cover all bases. Do not let the terms I have used confuse, or turn you off. That's the mind, the ego, more resistance. Please feel free to use whatever names, phrases, or titles you are comfortable with. As a matter of fact, take out your red magic marker right now and change any or every term that makes you uncomfortable. Let me be the first to say, I will in no way be offended."
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