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"Soozan's rant"
I love Sue and I was sorry to see her get voted out, but her snake-and-rat speech at the end was just a bit too much. I found it very hurtful and overly vicious and it was embarrasing to watch. I can see now why the Survivor crew said it became a bloodbath at the end. Gervase said it best, that her speech was disguisting and she was acting like a sore loser.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Soozan's rant melissa 08-23-00 1
 RE: Soozan's rant melissa 08-23-00 2
   RE: Soozan's rant SurvivorBlows 08-23-00 3
       RE: Soozan's rant tari32 08-23-00 4
           RE: Soozan's rant JustMe 08-24-00 7
 RE: Soozan's rant Laney 08-24-00 5
   RE: Soozan's rant dangerboy 08-24-00 9
   RE: Soozan's rant hilbilychik 08-25-00 14
 RE: Soozan's rant Magus 08-24-00 6
   RE: Soozan's rant Bananalover 08-25-00 12
       RE: Soozan's rant DivaRachel 08-25-00 15
 RE: Soozan's rant jurymember 08-24-00 8
   RE: Soozan's rant AyatollahKhomeini 08-24-00 10
       RE: Soozan's rant choap10 08-24-00 11
 RE: Soozan's rant Shenandoah 08-25-00 13
   RE: Soozan's rant Stjarna 08-25-00 16
       RE: Soozan's rant underdog 08-25-00 18
       RE: Soozan's rant DivaRachel 08-25-00 19
   RE: Soozan's rant shanana banana 08-25-00 17
       RE: Soozan's rant DivaRachel 08-25-00 20
           Susan's loser speech. dangerboy 08-27-00 21
               RE: Susan's loser speech. AyatollahKhomeini 08-28-00 22

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melissa 55 desperate attention whore postings
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08-23-00, 11:28 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Soozan's rant"
spoiled little trailer park trash.
that is what she impressed the world with.
Complete lack of capability to string an intelligent sentence together.
I wanted to slap the bitch.
I think she clinched it for herslef with North Americans': If she were ever dehydrated on the street, and recognized........
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08-23-00, 11:29 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Soozan's rant"
spoiled little trailer park trash.
that is what she impressed the world with.
Complete lack of capability to string an intelligent sentence together.
I wanted to slap the bitch.
I think she clinched it for herself with North Americans': If she were ever dehydrated on the street, and recognized........
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08-23-00, 11:38 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Soozan's rant"
I agree -- Susan = bad loser.

Thank god for Gervase!

(damn, did I just really say that??!?!?)

Yikes...

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08-23-00, 11:53 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Soozan's rant"
Yes, it was hurtful, it was painful, but dammit, it was great T.V.!!! It was brutally honest in a trucker sort of way. Admit it, we all have had fantasies of abusing someone that screwed us on national T.V. Soozian got to live her fantasy.
I must admit, great editing, the producers made Kelly and Susan look like the most evil people on the island so Rich's win would be easier to swallow...
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08-24-00, 00:38 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Soozan's rant"
Her speech wasn't honest at all.

Kelly didn't do anything worse than Sue did. Remember how Sue told Jenna she was
safe and they would be voting off the men next? She was just as deceptive but had
no qualms about picking Pagong off and telling them what they wanted to hear.
Kelly was torn about being in the alliance and voting off people she liked.

The bit about Kelly always being a loser was over the top -- that had nothing to do
with the game. That came from women exchanging confidences. No wonder this
b*itch hasn't had a friend in many years.

Her speech was totally uncalled for. Good for Gervase for coming to Kelly's defense!
That was the first time I respected him.

I won't be watching Survivor 2 -- this ending did not satisfy.

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08-24-00, 00:13 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Soozan's rant"
I may be a little "poor looser" myself for not wanting Rich to win-- I really wanted Sue to win. But after seeing that disgusting speech I have vowed to never go see an public appearance of her's here in Wisconsin. Not that will really matter to her, but I thought it was just sick.

Could someone please explain to me what Kelly did that was so wrong? I STILL don't get it!!

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08-24-00, 01:31 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Soozan's rant"
Susan thought that Kelly made her and the other Alliance members look bad because she was saying that she wasn't a member of the alliance and that they were cheating in effect (I GUESS). She said that Colleen told her that Kelly was bad-mouthing the Alliance. I'm not all that sure either really. But, I know she felt betrayed when Kelly switched her vote after the tie.
All and all I think she is a poor loser. Gervase said it all and was right on the mark (go figure - I never thought I'd say that). Man, she not only made herself look bad to 40 million people but I bet she lost the chance at many an endorsement after her rant. If I was a manufacturer like Reebok I wouldn't go near her with a ten foot pole.
Good riddance.
See ya wouldn't want to be ya.
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08-25-00, 09:23 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Soozan's rant"
There's a video clip of unaired footage on the cbs/survivor website.

http://www.cbs.com/network/tvshows/mini/survivor/show/episode13/video.shtml

Go to 'Susan shares some reflections'. It explains a lot.

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08-24-00, 00:36 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Soozan's rant"
Are you kidding me? That was some of the funniest, most entertaining television I've seen in a long time. After she finished I wanted Susan to win the million, just for saying that.
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12. "RE: Soozan's rant"
>Are you kidding me? That
>was some of the funniest,
>most entertaining television I've seen
>in a long time.
>After she finished I wanted
>Susan to win the million,
>just for saying that.

I agree! I was shocked to see someone that actually had enough chutzpah to say all of that on national television! Hilarious! Although many of the comments were very harsh, I can't help but admire Sue for not being afraid to speak her mind, even if it could cost her endorsements.

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15. "RE: Soozan's rant"
>I agree! I was shocked
>to see someone that actually
>had enough chutzpah to say
>all of that on national
>television! Hilarious

amen.

>but admire Sue for not
>being afraid to speak her mind


I agree.

I think only dumb Gervase would reduce Susan's intense feelings towards Kelly and her bretrayal to simple "sore losing". It was much more than that. But dumb people like Gervase can't see any further than the tip of their nose.

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08-24-00, 00:46 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Soozan's rant"
I feel bad that Susan reduced herself like that. She was obviously reacting to her disappointment, and more, her hurt and jealousy of Kelly. Contrary to what she says now, I'm CERTAIN that if she could she would retract those words. Those are the things you think of in your head but don't say to someone. Kelly looked so vulnerable. The way Susan spit out that venom (snakelike?) was so contradictory to the time she said she would NEVER stick a knife in Kelly's back. Now I understand the imagery of Kelly with a knife. The most fascinating person on the island was Kelly (though for many weeks I found her boring and blah). She displayed real pain and internal angst and I think in the end growth over the course of the 39 days that I don't think anyone else did. I loved that she had a conflict with good and evil and the pain of making decisions that are difficult. That was so real. What Susan said tonite said volumes about Susan and really nothing at all about Kelly, except that Susan missed her.
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08-24-00, 01:45 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Soozan's rant"
This speech did make us realize why Susan hasn't had a close friend in years, didn't it? I don't think she'd retract a word of what she said. In fact, I'll bet that -- until tonight -- she was PROUD of the way she "stood up for herself." Now I can see why she and her husband moved. With her tongue, they probably need to move frequently...
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08-24-00, 02:18 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Soozan's rant"
How exactly does Susan's rant make Wisconsin proud? If anything, it makes them embarassed to see that this woman could just say horrible things to Kelly. The worst thing is that Sue knew Kelly wouldn't fight back if she still wanted a chance at the million.

And at the Reunion, Kelly showed how much class she had by not getting back at Sue.
Congrats Kelly (u 2 rich) on being a fine person and Sue, get a life!

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08-25-00, 08:58 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Soozan's rant"
Here's a link to the text of Susan's speech:

http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21243-2000Aug25.html

It's on the front page of today's (8/25) Washington Post Style section.

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08-25-00, 09:46 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Soozan's rant"
Thanks Shenandoah for the link!

And to think that at one point I wanted Sue to win!!!

Actually, as I was watching her speech, I thought that the first half of it wasn't that bad. I could see that she just wanted to lay it all out in the open for Rich and for Kelly and to use this opportunity to tell to their faces what she really thinks of them. That takes guts, I have to admit. But she should've stopped there, because the second half of her tirade completely erased any positive impressions that I (and many other viewers, I'm sure) ever had about her.

But in the end, we can bash her all we want - she still has her contract with Reebok, and I'm sure she'll have many more now. So she'll have her million, don't worry. And she will be the last person laughing at all of us.

Stjarna

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18. "RE: Soozan's rant"
I got the impression that much of soozin's speech was written by someone else - it isn't her style to come up with analogies like the snake/rat and comments about island spirits and the way mother nature intended....it sounded to me like she supplied the bitterness and someone helped her to come up with a more symbolic way of expressing that bitterness - the dying of thirst/vulture thing was pure Soozin though.
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19. "RE: Soozan's rant"
>her tirade completely erased any
>positive impressions that I (and
>many other viewers, I'm sure)
>ever had about her.


she wasn't saying those things to win any popularity contest. It was about hurting Kelly. Maybe the way Kelly hurt her.

>And she
>will be the last person
>laughing at all of us.

perhaps so.

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17. "RE: Soozan's rant"
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-00 AT 10:23 AM (EST)

>Here's a link to the text
>of Susan's speech:
>
>
After re-reading that speech, I feel there is something missing, perhaps? Even though it's very close to what Soo said, there is something missing. Didn't Soo say something about "island spirits" when she was pleading with the jury to let Mother Nature take its course and let the snake eat the rat? I also felt there was something missing at the end.

Anyway, after re-reading Soo's rant, I felt the same way I did while she was saying it on TV: Oh, poor Kelly, Soozan is so right. What goes around comes around and everything Soo is saying about you is true

However, I think Soo would have not gotten such a negative reaction if she hadn't mentioned two things: the infamous vulture section and also the part about Kelly getting stomped by Gervase and being a loser in life. That is what made Soo sound like a sore loser and was a little too vicious. Those two parts had really nothing to do with the true nature of Soo's speech, which was simply that Kelly is a two-face, backstabbing, play both sides of the fence little bitch who only grew a conscience about the Alliance after she had used it to keep herself from being voted off. And furthermore, the fact that Kelly won the last five immunity challenges doesn't say all that much about Kelly being so tough, considering she is a fit 23 year old young woman up against a 72 year old man and two middle aged semi-out of shape people. Overall, all the immunity challenges were definitely stacked towards the younger individuals.

Dicque deserved to win all the way and I couldn't be happier!

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20. "RE: Soozan's rant"
>which was simply that Kelly
>is a two-face, backstabbing, play
>both sides of the fence
>little bitch who only grew
>a conscience about the Alliance

true.


>the fact that Kelly won
>the last five immunity challenges
>doesn't say all that much

agreed. She had litle competition.

>Dicque deserved to win all the
>way and I couldn't be happier!

me too!


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08-27-00, 05:59 PM (EST)
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21. "Susan's loser speech."
I agree that if Susan's speech had stopped before the "loser in life" and "I'd let you die on the side of the road" parts that it would have been more palatable. But I still think it was just Susan being a poor loser wannabe. And the fact that her diatribe was broadcast to over 40 million people and she had no remorse at the reunion show just showed her lack of class. She was as much a liar as Kelly ever was. In fact she was worse. But, unlike Kelly, it didn't bother her. She liked lying to the Pa-goners, she enjoyed casting them aside like used kleenex, and she reveled in getting to the final four. As Gervace said, if it was her sitting on the stool she'd have had no problem with any of Kelly's so called back-stabbing. She was hurtful, callous, and vicious. I don't like that.
B#TCH is the perfect description.
=:-o
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22. "RE: Susan's loser speech."
dangerboy, I agree with you, but I want to go back to something that underdog said further up this thread. Susan couldn't POSSIBLY have written this speech. I am about to start a separate thread on this topic (one of our last real questions!).
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