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"Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?"
GunsAndRoses 176 desperate attention whore postings
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"Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-22-05 AT 03:28 PM (EST)Are the assignment that REALITY TV life coaches assign ( such as Jill for days on end carrying around luggage, Lisa dressing up as a baby, TJ sitting in a box for two hours, other women in cages, or standing on street corners, and so on and so forth) differ from the assignment that Life Coaches in the real world have people do. People actually pay Life Coaches to help them get their life on track but I don't believe for one second that "Life Coaches" take this approach with their clients. I know Jill is supposed to carry those bags until she "gets it" but what happenes if it took her three/four/five weeks to get it, would this mean Iyanla would pretty much dismiss her until she had her lightbulb ah-ha moment? There's no way that a coach in real life would waste so much time on one assignment. I know that these are not assignments but rather they are "STUNTS" to get ratings. It's very sad that degradation, humiliation, etc., is the route that Iyanla and Rhonda have chosen and IMO have sold out because of it.
(please pardon typos and grammatical errors--don't have my glasses on LOL)
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GunsAndRoses 176 desperate attention whore postings
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10-22-05, 03:39 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
I did not know about the Help Me Rhonda show. Wow, that makes sense that they would carry that theme over to a reality show..sadly those women who sit in the auditions may or may not be aware of B-M's angle, and are really there because they want and need help. I would much rather see them go elsewhere for therapy and life coaching, although I assume not many can afford it so they opt to go the reality tv show route.
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savannah_allen 26 desperate attention whore postings
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10-22-05, 03:44 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
You know what they say nothing is free, these women have to humiliate themselves for repay for the free money, food, and tv star they'll become.
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jelnova 30 desperate attention whore postings
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10-22-05, 03:45 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
I detest Iyanla's methods, and some of Rhonda's as well. It breaks my heart that there are women out there who have so many problems in their lives that this appears to them as actual help.
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GunsAndRoses 176 desperate attention whore postings
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10-22-05, 03:48 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
I totally agree with you Jelova. It's hearbreaking that those women who come to the auditions are in such desperate need to start over and most don't even get chosen because their story isn't TV worthy or they don't have a personality to be a star on a reality show. Lisa got chosen over hundreds of women at the auditions and obviously not because they felt she was in dire circumstances but because her storyline is a joke and that would get the audience riled up as the one we "love to hate". It's pathetic how the show uses women, it doesn't empower them.
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jelnova 30 desperate attention whore postings
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10-22-05, 05:38 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
You won't convince me worshipping any self-help guru is good.
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karenlucyian 84 desperate attention whore postings
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10-22-05, 07:11 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
I went to a workshop in Phoenix with Rhonda this past week and several of her worshippers were in attendance. Oh my gosh! I would be scared if I were Rhonda. I do not think that Redbud is worshipping. I heard in her comments that the LC's have s job to do and they do it with that intention. Rhonda did talk about her private clients and how her work with them is radically different from SO and from workshops. Put it into context. I think this show is opening up an emotional conversation that many women would otherwise not be having. It is easy for us women to commune with eachother and talk about the mundane, the petty, the kids, the work stuff, etc. But talking about grief, failure, feelings, this is a whole new ballgame. I give kuddos to the show for taking a different tweak on the whole reality thing. It is TV and they are expoiting the women to some degree, but, they also signed up for it. I applaude their courage. The old saying goes, "the higher up the ladder you climb, the bigger your ##### looks" Point is I am looking at an ##### I would otherwise be sitting on!
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Labyrinth 1248 desperate attention whore postings
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10-23-05, 08:34 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
I'd love to hear more about what you heard? Perhaprs in a separate thread?
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Carn3 174 desperate attention whore postings
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10-24-05, 02:18 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
>I completely agree to what you
>said. Not only have I
>gone to two therapists that
>were completely worthless for myself,
>I have had my son
>evaluated by a pyschiatrist who
>was a nut case himself
>(and the mental health community
>thought so too!). I have
>also worked on a graduate
>program surrounded by would-be counselors.
>
>
>With SO, the women agreed to
>be there. I feel no
>pity for their situation. They
>wanted to be on television
>and go through a gut-wrenching
>process in the public view.
>These are public exhibitionists who
>want the world to recognize
>them -- that is part
>of their problem! Jill and
>Lisa - loud and obnoxious
>and thinking they are superior
>at playing the game; Jessica
>who has already been a
>media whore before with her
>mother's death; and Christina who
>stripped in public has no
>problem stripping her emotions in
>public either.
>
>Nope, I don't feel one ounce
>of concern for their mental
>health. They chose this path.
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>
>I personally don't think participation is
>due to lack of funds
>--- you don't get paid
>to be on SO and
>the whole time you are
>losing salary remaining.
It was posted on another thread here, by a couple of women who have been to casting calls and had the SO house explained to them-yes, they do get paid while on the show, one lady said they were told they would receive 500$ a week while in the house, and that most of the women chose to send most of that back home to help with expenses there-also was said somewhere, that SO furnishes food for the house, unless the HG wanted something else to eat, then they were on their own.
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Sharon_L 260 desperate attention whore postings
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10-24-05, 11:39 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
>This must be a change since
>last year, but a post
>was made about last season
>and it was said that
>they did not get paid,
>only a food allowance.
>
>So now they get a $1,000
>a month. And look who
>is in the house -
>Lisa - unemployed; Jill -
>unemployed; Christina - unemployed; TJ
>does work that I am
>not sure she is paid
>for (working with handicapped adults);
>and I am not sure
>that Allison has a paying
>job (she never mentions it);
>and Jessica - unemployed college student. Funny, it was one of things I noticed first. Who and who isn't employed, has housing, and what their financial status might be.
I also think former hg's like Layne and Amy might make more return visits if they wern't so involved with their careers. It's odd no mention of Allison's career (that I remember). I know she sings but I'm not sure she gets paid for that. I don't have a problem with the stipend but it might be interesting for those hg's with budgeting problems how they spend it. Another issue that really does affect one's overall health , maybe they'll get to it sometime. I remember reading Candy lost her job to be on SOH. But maybe she planned to quit anyway, don't know.
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GreenSideUp 274 desperate attention whore postings
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10-24-05, 03:10 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
I believe Allison is a self-employed party planner.
TJ has said she mentors adults with developmental disabilities. In my world that means she is a tech at a group home or day program - horribly high-turnover, low-quality employees and very easy to drift in and out. That's why my son is in a family home.
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10-24-05, 02:19 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
Labyrinth....You DO GET PAID TO BE ON Starting Over!!!!!!!$500.00 a week plus room and board......I went to one of the casting calls where Hailey and Lynnel came to speak.....
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10-24-05, 10:47 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
wow...that was good. i must say i truly feel you don't give the *good* therapists and *psychiatrists enough credit, very judgemental. and, you are absolutely right there a WHACK JOBS in every field. i am a therapist and have helped many and also have my *baggage* that i work through in my own therapy. so yeah needless to say this site is goin' off my desktop!
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mylifeisunfolding 39 desperate attention whore postings
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10-24-05, 01:30 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
re:robyyyynJust my 2 cents but I don't think the posters are knocking therapy nor are they saying there aren't good therapists because there undoubtably are excellent therapists out there. Just as in any other field or profession they are individuals that are wonderful as well as they are individuals in those professions that aren't so wonderful. Being that you state you ARE a therapist based on your response here it appears that you are possibly taking this too personally and I am willing to say I could be wrong in the way I interpreted your post. Regardless what anyone on these boards think or don't think can never change the truth of who you are.
A rather wise person once told me it's not what you're called; it's what you answer to. If you know in YOUR heart that you are a good therapist and that of course other good even excellent therapists do indeed exist then you could chock up a persons comment here as uninformed because saying everyone is bad is a generalization and generalizations have no validity. The boards are our opportunity to share, vent, and in some cases if we are open learn from each other which is really what life is all about. And of course the opportunity to respectfully disagree. I have expanded my views on many points here when someone provided insight or an aspect that I had not thought about and that is the beauty in intelligent discourse. Again if we as humans would be willing to step outside ourselves, our prejudices, our judgements, and at times lack of information and be open and compassionate to another persons viewpoint or position it gives us a wonderful opportunity to grow.
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cannfran59 56 desperate attention whore postings
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10-22-05, 07:27 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
By now Jill should have gotten it in at least 10 different languages! It just proves (at least to some) IMO that the LCs are not with the program. They would rather embarrass the HGs than simply spell it out after a week. Jill has cried out of frustration as have most of the ladies at one point or another since this season began. I am saddened that some viewers would rather see the excellance in the LCs because once again IMO they ought to see that if Jill don't got it by now she ain't never gonna!
By the way GunsAndRoses While reading the posts in the past and never posting, You gave me the spark I needed to post for the 1st time last week. I enjoy reading your writtings...thanks ..ann
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FairfaxLadybug 21 desperate attention whore postings
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10-24-05, 02:54 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
I think the assignments are eye opening. Often we don't see our behavior until it stares us in the face in a practical and tangible way. It may be obvious to everyone else, but you sometimes don't get it until you're looking at it. Jill with the baggage is perfect. That's not a humiliating assignment. It obviously is hitting home because she is very resistant to completing it. She has a lot of baggage that she carries around and it affects her relationships with other people as well as herself. When she finally gets it, she'll be glad for the work. The same goes for TJ in the box and TJ with the glasses and earplugs. She needed those things to get in touch with her feelings...to make them real. They're not being degraded, they're being helped.
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10-24-05, 04:18 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
I suppose there are pluses & minuses to life-coaching versus reality TV life-coaching. What I like:1. The houseguests are really brave to put all their crap out there for the rest of us to learn from. The activities must seem really over-the-top to them. But they persevere to get the lesson themselves, and share it with us strangers. 2. The symbolic visuals really help get through to a TV audience. Friends and I often comment we wish our own support groups & counselling used such striking methods. 3. It is hard to understand another person's issues whom we don't relate to at all. But when the analogies are so vividly depicted in activities, it's much easier to get it, and get them. 3. Over-the-top activities help add humor; some of us REALLY take ourselves far too seriously.  And confronting your biggest issues can be unbearably painful without, oh, say, a funny little toy monkey riding around on your back.
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10-25-05, 07:53 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
Tagging On:
Season three: These ladies know exactly what they were in for.
I could stake my life that all these ladies have seen the show before applying (Only place it is advertise about being on the show is during the show).
So, I have NO sumpathy for how they are edited etc. They got exactly what they wanted: room and board for a number of weeks, a weekly stipend plus grocery money), free transportation, if one has kids the show pays for their care while Mom is on the show, 15mins of fame, some have gotton more which is the premise for any one to be on any given reality show.............and last but surely not least:
A *prize* for faking it til you make it.
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10-25-05, 07:57 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
It's horrible...the life coaches are acting like real B___es this season. They have the ugliest looks on their faces. They are not getting through to the women because they are trying to create drama for the show. The life coaches need to be attacked and put in their place...they are abusing the women this season. They are not giving any directions. They are just abusing them and making them confused without steering them in any direction. The are tearing them apart without building them back up. Iyanla and Rhonda are being horrible and nasty. They need to be slapped!
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erikonline 20 desperate attention whore postings
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10-25-05, 08:01 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: Do "Life Coaches" in "Real Life" Assigning Degrading and Humiliating Assignments to Their Clients In Order For Them To "Get it"!?" |
That is true what the last response said. These ladies do know about the exercises. Iyanla and Rhonda are witches this season, but these new housemates are as fake as Rhonda's blonde hair. Lisa barely even has tears when she does that fake horrible crying.
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