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"Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
I'm baaaaack! Didja miss me? These caps include some challenge cappy good stuff. And I've got more to come. Stay tuned.

























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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Welcome back!!! TeamJoisey 01-13-04 1
 RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps Krautboy 01-13-04 2
   RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps samboohoo 01-13-04 12
       RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps Brownroach 01-13-04 13
           RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps LeftPinky 01-14-04 32
   RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps jkokoj 01-13-04 17
 RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps I_AM_HE 01-13-04 3
   RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps pmspml5 01-13-04 11
 Are you kidding me? volsfan 01-13-04 4
   RE: Are you kidding me? VerucaSalt 01-13-04 5
       RE: Are you kidding me? volsfan 01-13-04 6
           RE: Are you kidding me? okaloosajohn 01-13-04 10
               RE: Are you kidding me? ihavturtlduvluv 01-13-04 20
   RE: Are you kidding me? udg 01-13-04 7
       RE: Are you kidding me? IreneMcGee 01-13-04 8
       RE: Are you kidding me? okaloosajohn 01-13-04 9
           RE: Are you kidding me? volsfan 01-13-04 14
               RE: Are you kidding me? VerucaSalt 01-13-04 16
                   RE: Are you kidding me? Blow by Blow 01-13-04 18
                   Colby and Jenna Lewis hugging idiotcowboy 01-13-04 19
                   RE: Are you kidding me? volsfan 01-13-04 29
           RE: Are you kidding me? udg 01-15-04 34
               RE: Are you kidding me? CaptainP 01-15-04 35
 I missed you!! jkokoj 01-13-04 15
 RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps Joyful 01-13-04 21
   RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps okaloosajohn 01-13-04 22
       RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps ginger 01-13-04 23
       RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps Brownroach 01-13-04 26
   RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps VerucaSalt 01-13-04 25
   Richard is so dead MattyMax 01-13-04 28
 RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps wendyp 01-13-04 24
   RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps speedyforme 01-13-04 27
 Bonds weltek 01-14-04 30
   RE: Bonds sweetpea 01-14-04 31
       RE: Bonds weltek 01-15-04 36
   RE: Bonds Brownroach 01-15-04 37
       RE: Bonds Krautboy 01-15-04 38
           RE: Bonds okaloosajohn 01-15-04 39
               RE: Bonds Krautboy 01-15-04 40
   RE: Bonds dreamerbeliever 01-16-04 41
       RE: Bonds Flowerpower 01-16-04 43
 Bungler! Wheezy 01-15-04 33
 Flags??? what? PhillyBrat 01-16-04 42
   RE: Flags??? what? Brownroach 01-16-04 44

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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings
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01-13-04, 00:36 AM (EST)
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1. "Welcome back!!!"

Now I know it's an ALL-STAR edition!!!


These reality show contestants need a reality check!

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01-13-04, 00:47 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
The Vidcap King has returned! Welcome back Bungler! You've been missed...


I posted about this image in the EP1 IC thread. This appears to be a celebration at the end of the challenge. Red appears to win, not clear about who is second...Colby and company are receiving hugs, but it's not clear if they are consolation hugs or second place hugs?


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12. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
Not sure Krautboy if this is a celebration. Could it be the first time they are allowed to interact. Can't tell who's hugging Colby, but that looks like Rob C. happy to see Jenna.

Welcome Back Bunglar!!

By the way, you were missed at the end of last season too KB, especially when I wasn't able to get to the boards much and needed an expert opinion on Thursday morning before making my picks.

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13. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
I agree these look more like "Hi, how ARE you? So great to SEE you again, you look MAH-vellous!" hugs than challenge victory hugs, but since the men are shirtless and everyone's clothes are sandy this must occur when the challenge is over. I don't get any real sense of which team won though.


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32. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
Agree BR, I would say that this is a greetings! hug. The sand could be from the journey to get to the first challenge.

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17. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
I agree KB! It looks like the end of the challenge and they finally get to talk to eachother. It appears to me that Jenna's tribe is walking towards the rest of the group.

Also in the pic with Lex lighting the torch, if you look at the faces of Shii and Jenna they are definitly not smiling like it is the end of the challenge. Also, Lex's team does not seem to be hurrying. I believe they come in last.


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3. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
we see red's flag, and green is the only team we actually see in action...their body language looks almost defeated, but this could be the very end of the challenge and just be fatigue...however, their player arrangement seems odd - i would expect kathy to be in shii's spot, as i would think she is the strongest female? but if it is the last little bit, it may not matter so much who is where, so it may not indicate bad strategy/result

also interesting is no sign of yellow in the action, but some in the hugging scene (which seems to have members of all 3 tribes)

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11. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
I think the other two teams have their set-ups better - strongest guy in the middle of two girls and two other guys with the girl in middle. - Green had two relative week girls behind Lex - who I wouldnt think is the strongest guy. I think this could hurt them. anyhoooooo I'm changing my mind and saying green looses and by by Richard - yahooooooooooooo
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4. "Are you kidding me?"
You were missed BIG TIME! Welcome back and we are glad you are back.

I think the second vid cap shows us that Mogo Mogo is looking around to see who is coming into the clearing for the challenge. Does this also mean that they don't know who is on the other tribes until the first challenge?


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5. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-04 AT 11:01 AM (EST)

Bungler So nice to see you again!


I don't know vols (unless I am misunderstanding you) there are some sandy bottoms in that picture, I think this is after the challenge and group hugging going on though it is VERY hard to tell who looks like they won or lost. They are hugging all over the place in that picture and if this is the first major contact they all were able to have; this is a big ole love fest going on with friends and old tribemates. I'm not sure how much I'm ready to read into it

ETA: vols and I are talking about two completely different pictures so phooey on me

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6. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
Veruca,

I am talking about this pic:

I think this is before the challenge as they are exiting from the jungle. If you notice too...this pic is right before the pics of them taking the group pic.

Don't you think?


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10. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
I think this is before the challenge as they are exiting from the jungle. If you notice too...this pic is right before the pics of them taking the group pic.

Don't you think?

Absolutely. They are already lined up in the same order as in the group pic...


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20. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
I concur with you, that picture was taken right before the group shot. I found a clearer image of them coming out of the jungle and you can clearly see the rope that the all-stars lined up behind in the group shot on CBS

My guess is the group shot was taken right before the IC when everyone was still looking pretty. MB wouldn't want his stars to be covered in Sand for the group promo shot now would he.

Of course, I could totally be wrong and that could just be a boa constrictor at their feet - ya never know ;)

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7. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
I think the Early Show "confessionals" (the interviews with Tracy Smith) happened at a lodge before the game started, and I think the players saw each other there before the game started.

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8. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
Is that Jenna's back in those few photos in the middle? If so, I guess she lasts long enough to lose that much weight. She's usually 5-10 lbs heavier than complete bones beginning to show, right?

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9. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
Well, one thing is for sure...these vidcaps show the tribes arriving for a challenge and are made just prior to them all lining up for the group picture, so that answers that part of the question. The picture WAS made when they all got together for a challenge. I suppose this _could_ mean that the tribes were kept separate before they actually got to the islands.

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14. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
I think your absolutely correct. This is the first time we have been given any info as to when the group picture was taken. I think they have been kept separate until the first challenge!


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16. "RE: Are you kidding me?"

vols, now that we cleared that up, absolutely

They are all just checking it out, probably seeing if someone they thought was going to be there was or wasn't. If the challenge happens almost immediately after their group shots, the real hugging would then come after the challenge and with that, the expressions on their faces and who is hugging who may be slightly off skew when it comes to establishing who won based on those shots.

Actually the hugging shot is more interesting to me in terms of who is greeting who. Jenna M and Rob C is no surprise. I believe Amber is laughing with Kathy (not on same season nor on same current tribe) Jenna L. hugging Colby (not on same season nor on current tribe) Tom appears that he is in process of walking towards someone to say hello and obviously there are plenty others we can't see.

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18. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
I think we have to assume that most of these players have had a chance to at least meet each other at some point in their post-survivor media clowning. So I would expect that there's plenty of hugs for everyone. Well, maybe not for Shii Ann or Rupert who have no fellow cast members on ASS.

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19. "Colby and Jenna Lewis hugging"
In case anyone is wondering here's the "proof"

-ICB

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29. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
Too funny Veruca...I am with you now and I think you are with me as well! I do agree that the people they are greeting is interesting. I will analyze and post later!


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34. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
I suppose this _could_ mean that the tribes were kept separate before they actually got to the islands.

I agree. Yes, I've flip-flopped on this issue. I assumed that the fact that they were doing all those interviews at the lodge meant that they had to have all seen each other before the game started. However, I just watched the "Peek behind the scenes of Survivor: All Star" clip on the CBS site, and about 16 seconds into it we hear the green and red teams' reactions to the yellows stepping out of the bushes. "Ohhhhoo." That sounds like shock to me!

It also reinforces for me something that I learned last season. As marvelous as vidcaps are for spoiling, and as much as they can show us that we'd otherwise miss, they are not a substitute for watching the video.

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35. "RE: Are you kidding me?"
Haha... maybe they are in shock over seeing Rupert there?

That has GOT to be a suprise to see a Survivor from the current season while they were filming. I can definitely see the Green and Red Tribes being amazed that Rupes is there.

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15. "I missed you!!"
Good to see you Bungler! I was wondering what happened to you! Thanks for getting these pics up!


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21. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
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Wouldn't this be a clue as to the first challenge winners of ASS? It looks like the other two fire pot things are still on the rafts out on the ocean whereas Lex is about to light his tribe's torch. But is this reward or immunity?


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22. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
I think the first "Quest for Fire" challenge was both reward and immunity. The reward was they got to keep the fire. And I'm not 100% sure, but I think they had to light the pots that were floating in the water, as well, and if they missed one, they would have been disqualified. It was a very long and tiring challenge IIRC.

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23. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
I missed Bungler. Gracias!

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26. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-04 AT 03:10 PM (EST)

And I'm not 100% sure, but I think they had to light the pots that were floating in the water, as well

Yes that's what it looks like. In the TV Guide pic showing them about to leap off the platforms you can see that the rafts with the cauldrons on top are the first things directly in front of them -- the cauldron fires are already lit. Further on are the first floating cauldrons, which are not lit.

So they have to push the raft to the first floating cauldron, use the torch to light it, move on to the second one, etc. It looks like there are ropes with markers to guide them. Then when they get to the beach they have to carry the raft and light another succession of cauldrons on the way to the finish.

Edited to wave to VS, who posted at the same time.


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25. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-04 AT 04:31 PM (EST)

Joyful if you look at the one picture from where they all start on their raft to jump off, you can see that there is a cauldron on their raft to carry AND a cauldron on the water which doesn't appear lit initially so I think that they jump off, grab their raft we see Lex and company holding, light the water cauldron we see in the background and then move onto to shore to light the cauldrons along the way.

I think this is the first cauldron on shore that they light in fact just due to the fact they are so close to shore and Lex looks soaked there.

And I believe the reward may be like S1 and it be immunity naturally and probably matches or something.

ETA: Waving back at BR and that Survivor minds think alike

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28. "Richard is so dead"
Wow, Shii Ann and Jenna both look AWFUL. (Shii ann seems to be supporting half the raft, too!) These people are losing the challenge. We know that Yellow had already had their raft lifted when Richard was fumbling with a torch and their cauldron was on the ground. (from the TV guide shots)
Lex looks very tired, too.
Also, from the tv guide shots, we see the RED team looking very pumped lighting torches on the land.
Well, I don't know who wins between Red and Yellow, but I'd bet that green loses.
And if we can trust that a man goes first, I would say that fat naked fag has a big target painted on his fat naked ass. Even without the snewster, we know that past winners will be looked down upon, and we know how Lex feels about snakes...

Also, that creepy budweiser thing with richard makes me think snewster's trying to tell us something.

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24. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
Welcome back Bungler!! I missed you.

Thanks for the vid caps. I think it is interesting that they only show one tribe carring their fire. Wasn't there another shot on another thread that was from the side with the teams closer?


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27. "RE: Ent. Tonight 1/12/04 Vidcaps"
this looks like #4 Marquaces (spelling?) first challenge...except they prob have to dive for the raft instead of bringing it out to sea...so hard to see who wins or loses
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30. "Bonds"
Based on the above and other videocaps, I think we have some possible bonds between tribe members:
Red Tribe: Rob M. & Amber, and Alicia seem to be walking close to eachother and laughing often. Rob C. is also sometimes in these pics, but seems to be the "fourth". OUTSIDERS: Sue & Tom

Yellow Tribe: Jenna L. & Jerri seem to have a cautious bond. They seem to be sitting by eachother in a few pics, conversing and going about similar business. They are sometimes accompanied by Ethan. Ethan also seems entertained by Rupert. OUTSIDERS: Tina & Rudy

Green Tribe: Colby, Richard and Lex seen talking alone in the water, probably plotting. How much trust actually is there is up to debate. I can't see Colby and Richard trusting eachother. The rest of the tribe seems fragmented. OUTSIDERS: Kathy, Shii Ann, Jenna M. Enough to form a bond and put up a fight, but will they?

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31. "RE: Bonds"
In this picture you can see Alicia, Rob M and Amber walking together with Rob C a little ahead of them. (Is Rob C wearing Tom's hat?)

Then, in this picture, the four of them are standing in a group talking. Maybe the start of an alliance?

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36. "RE: Bonds"
Yep, but I didn't notice that was Rob C in that second picture. Maybe he's not as much of an outsider in the group of 4, but I could easily see that. I think Rob M. is more of a charmer and if the others saw Rob C. on the Amazon they'd know he's slimy.
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37. "RE: Bonds"
Funny you mentioned that about Rob C, Weltek, I got the exact same feeling when I saw those caps. Is he going to feel like he's in the same position he was in with Alex, Jenna and Heidi, at the very start of the game?

In the cap of Lex, Colby and Rich, Colby and Lex are closer to each other and are facing Rich; imo, Rich is the "outsider" in this trio. In the second cap of Colby, he appears to be considering, but not necessarily buying, whatever is being said. I do not see a three-way alliance coming to fruition here, but Colby/Lex seems like a possibility -- temporarily at least.


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38. "RE: Bonds"
Brownroach, I had the same reaction to Colby, he's looking down, not making eye contact with Richard, not committing to whatever it is that Richard is proposing...


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01-15-04, 02:52 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Bonds"
So...you think he wasn't interested in a roll in the hay, then?


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40. "RE: Bonds"
Maybe Colby's holding out for a new Aztec and a conjugal visit from his mom.


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01-16-04, 01:19 AM (EST)
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41. "RE: Bonds"
Great observations Weltek. Even before some the video caps starting being uploaded here, I thought the Red tribe had the most obvious alliance potential. Rob C (ring leader), Rob M (faithful # 1), Alicia, and Amber. Only question is, who between Tom & Sue will get on their nerves the fastest and be voted out first.

Yellow Tribe : was absolutely thrilled when I saw who Rupert was paired up with! Four decent individuals and of course Jerri. Once again, I have to agree with your observation of the core four alliance with Rudy & Tina on the outside. My best guess is that Jerri will be on her best behavior initially, then the bug bites will turn her skin into the moon and she'll get cranky. Usually the IC and reward challenges are extremely physical in the beginning. Will this be 76 year old Rudy's downfall? On a side note, I really do think Ethan will take more of a leadership roll in this tribe.

Green Tribe : by far and away the toughest to figure out. Lex and Kathy know each other well because of the failed adventure trip thing. Can they reel in Shii Ann & Jenna M to ditch Richard and/or Colby? Can't wait to find out!

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01-16-04, 09:08 AM (EST)
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43. "RE: Bonds"
I generally concur with the discussion here. I think the tribes are announced at the beginning and emerge out of the jungle one by one to greet Jiffy with the covered immunity idol. After a brief introductory spiel, they get right into the first IC. The teams compete, then after the challenge they all intermingle for the first time.

Now as for the bonds, I agree that Lex and Colby may be together in that they both are weary of Richard.....how would you feel if you were Colby and knew all of the blatant things that Richard has said of you in the past? Each of these players is bringing a pretty definate preconceived opinion of each individual player to this game.....should be very interesting if their preconceived opinions hold up, or are they going to markedly change as they get to know one another and the game unfolds. I could see Colby, Lex, and Kathy forming a mutual alliance on the green team.....I think all of the members on the green team are all weary of Rich....as I look at the pictures, I don't see any one at any time in his personal space??? I think Rich is a big outsider/target.

On the yellow team, Ethan and Rupert definately seem to be accepting of one another....as for Rupert, fresh from S7, will he change his strategy and fly a little bit more under the radar...??? If so, perhaps Ethan will be more of a leader....but look at Rudy, take charge, opinionated guy that he is? Who will jump on whose coattails here?

AS for the Red team, definately see the younger ones, Rob M, Rob C, Amber, and Alicia plotting at the start leaving Tom and Sue...but remember, the rumor is that Tom goes far with a 40 pound weight loss, so somewhere he is jumping on board with the right group. In one of the pix with the four younger ones, it looks as if Rob C. is doing the talking/plotting, and the others are all listening....looks as though his scheming started long before the start of the show. Is Rob C. stepping into the leadership role/boss of this tribe, is he putting a big target on his own back by assuming the leadership role?


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01-15-04, 00:30 AM (EST)
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33. "Bungler!"

Fer heck! Welcome back, Bungler.


WHEEEEEEZE!

I missed you most of all

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01-16-04, 06:38 AM (EST)
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42. "Flags??? what?"
Please let me know if someone has already mention this however I was looking over the clips and noticeded something with the flags..

Rudy Carrys the Flag in for Yellow in the front, As does Rob C.

However Richard is sceen in the back of the pack holding the flag. Shouldn't he be in the front? Don't Flagbearers lead, not get left behind?

To me it just seams that something could be here. (With Rich and the rest of the tribe.)

-=Bratz=-

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01-16-04, 12:11 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Flags??? what?"
I don't think it means anything. Yeah you'd think the flag-bearer would go first but I'm sure it's not a rule. In S7 the Outcasts re-entered for their challenge in boot order but Burton, not Nicole, was carrying their flag.


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