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"Why wasn't Mary picked for the next Bachlorette?? When will there be a hispanic or black bacholorette?????"
realitybites 1174 desperate attention whore postings
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12-12-03, 10:43 AM (EST)
 
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1. "The third rail" |
Welcome to the boards, Princess Emily. I hope you enjoy your stay here.>A lot of people I spoke to told me they would have liked
>to see Mary be the next Bachlorette. I mean she is pretty and
>her personality was quite warm. I liked Mary also and would like to have seen her as the bachelorette with one caveat - she would have to have been seen and known by her potential suitors before the show started. Otherwise her eagerness to have children right away would likely turn off a lot of the bachelors, making for a less interesting show. Mary has one other "problem", besides her race, and the baby thing - her age. She's 35-ish, which isn't a big problem in itself, but probably means that they would have to bring in some guys who are in their late 30s and even into their 40s. They won't be the young and pretty types ABC seems to favor. So I can understand why she wasn't picked. >It kind of makes you wonder WHY has there not been a
>hispanic or black person next???? I'm starting to wonder myself. It's not just "The Bachelor/ette" - none of the several imitators have had a minority as the featured person. My guess is we'll see one in '04 or '05 - the possibilities are too much fun to resist. There are two reasons besides the obvious (haven't found the right person) to not try this: 1) Station boycotts - when the station manager in Backwater, SC, sees previews a black guy making out with several white girls (not at the same time) in the obligatory hot tub, he's going to say, "That ain't right!" and run Andy Griffith reruns instead of poisoning his audience with such liberal views. If there are three or four guys like him scattered across the U.S., the ratings will take a noticeable hit. And no network wants that. 2) Possible imbalances - suppose our black bachelor has jettisoned all the non-black bachelorettes by the second round. Would there be enough of an audience left? People like to watch contestants they can relate to and root for (or against). >And don't you find that on every show when the first
>25 girls or guys are being picked, the bachelor or
>bachlorette always make sure they pick someone black, hispanic
>and/or asian, but they never make the cut. Yeah, I've noticed. I think it's tokenism of the worst kind. The producers probably stage manage decisions like this - "you've gotta pick one of them!" Then again, Mary made it to the final three, so maybe our bachelors (at least some of them) are more race-neutral than I think they are.
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Princess Emily 4 desperate attention whore postings
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12-12-03, 11:57 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: The third rail" |
Hi, Thank you for the welcome. Yes you are right about all the things you said. Mary missed up when she started talking about babies right away. Big NO NO. The age thing, I did not find to be a thing, because love can be found at any age. I hear that Bob and Estella are no longer together. Well, Bob to me on the show never looked like he would be serious with anyone. He did not look like the type who would want to get married. He just seemed to have cold feet when it came down to it. They should have never picked him. They should have picked someone interested in finding someone with the intentions of getting married. Yes the race thing is also true. I think the bachelor and bachelorate should state up front. I am only interested in Caucasian, black or hispanic, asian, to be specific. If they truly are not interested in black, hispanic, asian, then there should not be any black, hispanic, asians in the 25 selected in the show to be begin with if the bachelor or bachlorette would not have considered marrying or dating outside their race. But I can see they are briefed and told it looks better this way for the audiences, to show no prejudism, but it only took me the second show to 100% sure of what I thought. So, yes, even though I liked Mary, the baby issue scares men. But it still would have been interesting to watch Mary and pick the guy in the end you know. This Meridith thing, well to me is going to seem boring if I watch even the first episode. I did enjoy reading your post!!
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realitybites 1174 desperate attention whore postings
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12-12-03, 02:45 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: The third rail" |
I enjoyed reading your messages and agree with most of them. There was one thing, however, that I don't agree with:> Mary missed up when she started talking about babies
>right away. Big NO NO. Well, from the standpoint of costing her a shot at being in the final two, this is probably accurate. However, as a guy, I think it's best to know these things as soon as possible. So I admire her honesty and willingness to put herself on the line like that. And I'm sure there are enough other suitable guys who feel the same way. >Bob to me on the show never looked like he would be serious
>with anyone. He did not look like the type who would want
>to get married. He just seemed to have cold
>feet when it came down to it. They should have never picked
>him. They should have picked someone interested in finding
>someone with the intentions of getting married. Bob kept saying no, but ABC kept offering and he finally said yes. Based on reactions here and elsewhere, it probably would have been better for everyone if he had stuck with his initial no. >I think the bachelor and bachelorate should state up front.
>I am only interested in Caucasian, black or hispanic, asian,
>to be specific. If they truly are not interested in black,
>hispanic, asian, then there should not be any black, hispanic,
>asians in the 25 selected in the show to be begin with if
>the bachelor or bachlorette would not have considered marrying
>or dating outside their race. I think they do ask that of the bachelors and bachelorettes. But it's one thing to check a box on a form and quite another to hand out roses to someone who could be your husband or wife. If the pool were split with, say, 7 whites, 6 blacks, 6 Latinas, and 6 Asians, it would indeed make for an interesting show. But that's not very likely to happen. > This Meridith thing, well to me is going to seem boring if I
>watch even the first episode. I didn't see much of Meredith, so I can't give much of an opinion on her. I HOPE she's more interesting than people say she is. And I HOPE the bachelor group is just as interesting - or more - than the one they had for the last Bachelorette.
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HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings
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12-12-03, 03:21 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: The third rail" |
Bob was on the radio here in Detroit and the reason he was saying no was he was dating Gwen at the time. Since he was considering it....Surprise! It was the reason why Gwen broke up with him. So this just shows how dumb Bob is....Gwen was better then any 25 that they could find and it just goes to show how big of a DAW he is.
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jes_dc 7 desperate attention whore postings
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12-12-03, 03:46 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: The third rail" |
Gwen fell for Aaron AND Bob????? Great girl, terrible taste in men....I'm not honestly not sure which one of them she was luckier to get away from. You'd think it would have at least earned her the spot as the next bachelorette - but maybe she didn't want it after ABC convinced her bf to ditch her and film the show...
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Princess Emily 4 desperate attention whore postings
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12-12-03, 06:34 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: The third rail" |
Yes, Mary was being honest upfront about wanting to have children and you know after looking back at this you could tell of her sincerity and honesty. She looked like the type of woman who would have made a good honest faithful wife and the thing is, Bob was too blind to see this, but again Bob should have not been on the show. You know who I thought was just an awesome guy, was the guy on the beach; the blonde who was shy and asked Trista if he could kiss her; was his name Jaime??? Gosh I cannot remember. I just thought he was so sincere and polite in asking and what is wrong with that. I think he would make a great catch for Mary!!! Was Gwen from the other Bachelor show were Helene ended up winning. Was Gwen the one who had been married before but had her marriage annuled. If so, I thought she was a cutie.
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12-12-03, 03:50 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: The third rail" |
>Mary has one other "problem", besides
>her race, and the baby
>thing - her age.
>She's 35-ish, which isn't a
>big problem in itself, but
>probably means that they would
>have to bring in some
>guys who are in their
>late 30s and even into
>their 40s. They won't
>be the young and pretty
>types ABC seems to favor. Why would they have to be in their late 30's or 40's? If she was interested in Bob, obviously, she is not firm on this criteria. I think Mary would be perfect, because if the right guy is in the group, we know she won't hesitate to accept a marriage proposal. Unlike Bob, who goes through the process and then gives a freakin' "promise ring". He was without a doubt, the most juvenile person to ever appear on the show. This season with Bob finally allowed me to write the show off. I think it has about run its course. The diminished activity on these boards pretty much reinforces that fact. This season caused a lot of ho hum, and in TV once a show starts to lose its audience, it's tough to get it back.
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reality_gal 62 desperate attention whore postings
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12-12-03, 11:38 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Why wasn't Mary picked for the next Bachlorette?? When will there be a hispanic or black bacholorette?????" |
Mary was my favorite from the last bachelor and i was hoping they would make her the next bachelorette when she didn't make it to final cut with Bob(good thing she didn't) but anyways i thought she was beautiful sexy and intelligent. She has everything going for her.
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schmoe 69 desperate attention whore postings
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12-14-03, 01:48 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Why wasn't Mary picked for the next Bachlorette?? When will there be a hispanic or black bacholorette?????" |
I don't think any of last seasons women save Kelly Jo would make great batchlorettes. I'm not sure Mary is interesting enough, she has a one track mind (babies). Meredith isn't ideal candidate either. I don't think she's attractive enough. I know that sounds horribly shallow, but it is a big deal. I think thats why Bachelor Bob flopped. All these beautiful contestents went crazy over this (at best) average looking guy. The audience just cringed. The same thing will happen in the next Bachlorette. All these hunky guys will fall in love with an average looking girl, and the audience will will wonder why? I think if they were to have an Asian, Latino, or biracial bachlorette, paired alongside male contestents of every race and color imaginable, you would have a real ratings winner. A white/Asian or a black/Asian couple might not be as controversial as a white/black couple. Or, if they are too worried about ratings, why not add a second show on a different night? They done it with Law & Order and CSI. You can still have the all white show on Wednesday night to appease ABC, and add a second bathelor(ette) show on a different night with a little more diversity.
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Princess Emily 4 desperate attention whore postings
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12-14-03, 07:48 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Why wasn't Mary picked for the next Bachlorette?? When will there be a hispanic or black bacholorette?????" |
John: There is no question that Meredith is attractive and she probably is a wholesome sweet gal. I did not think Trista either was attractive enough to reach the high standards for being a bachlorette and Bob surely was not. Although, I must admit Trista can handle herself quite well on TV. I think the overall picture for me for a bachlorette is someone who is pretty, but not soo pretty, but someone who has sincerity and a type of charisma that one admires in depth. John I am sure there are a lot of other guys out there who too in real life would be so lucky to go out with Meredith and a lot of girls who would be so lucky in real life to look like her; sweet!
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12-15-03, 10:03 PM (EST)
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16. "Was everyone white at that wedding? besides the help..." |
I'm glad people are bringing up race. It's annoying that nobody ever mentions it on the show, as though it doesn't exist, as though it just always happens that the chooser is white and the few token people of color just happen to usually get kicked off early on. Imagine if Trista had picked that black guy she kicked off pretty early on.....The people at her wedding were SOOOO WHITE-I did not see a drop of color anywhere. Granted, I kept falling asleep due to the ridiculously idealized white suburban Leave it to Beaver gender normative 2.5 very white kids coming very soon monotony of the whole sordid affair. So I might have missed all of Trista's black friends, and all of her family's black friends while I was dozing. Yeah.
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ScoobyDoo 27 desperate attention whore postings
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12-18-03, 00:25 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Was everyone white at that wedding? besides the help..." |
Hey all,
I wasn't criticizing Trista for having an all white wedding as much as I was criticizing the show's general avoidance of race as an issue. Clearly in Trista's all white world, her marrying a black man would have been an issue for somebody, even if it remained upspoken. I'm not saying Trista didn't pick that guy because he's black- I think if he'd been the one for her she would have picked him. But looking at how her wedding turned out, it's unrealistic that race never crossed her mind in making her decision about him, if she truly did consider him as a possible husband. SOMEONE in her family would have atleast reacted with surprise. The illusion that race is no longer an issue in the U.S. exists only through the eyes of white privilege. As soon as a generation wakes up to the fact that racism is wrong, many whites want to ignore the issue of race and of deeply entrenched institutional racism which still exists and will be around for a very long time, due to our nation's history. It's silly for me to expect race to be dealt with realistically on a silly show like this, but the show is still frustrating as yet another another symptom of a general cultural denial.
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