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"E13: Discussion of other sites"
Emily RugBurn 663 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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12-12-03, 05:14 PM (EST)
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"E13: Discussion of other sites" |
As Bebo mentioned in the E12 thread of the same name; this thread is to discuss the activity on other sites. On Sunday, another thread will be started specifically to summarize the predictions from other sites, so please keep all discussions here.Thought it might be a good time to start this thread -- although TDT has nothing new under their tree, Snewser has left us a little something under his tree: http://www.survivornews.net/snn.php?sid=scorecard His scorecard has been removed, and two images take its place – the present under the tree graphic, and the monkey face we’ve seen before. I right-clicked on the monkey image and hit "Save As" to see what he titled the pic. He’s called it: "Shocked" Tawk amungst yaselves. ~ EmRB
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bebekid 1621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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12-13-03, 03:37 PM (EST)
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11. "TDT is up!" |
Your link:http://www.truedorktimes.com/s7/spoilers/ Darrah wins both ICs. Jon/Sandra/Lil/Darrah wins with a possibly unanimous vote.
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bebekid 1621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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12-13-03, 06:26 PM (EST)
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18. "TDT unconfirmed tip" |
Has Lil and Jon as the final 2. Here is what he says:FINAL THREE IMMUNITY CHALLENGE/ Endurance? We're not absolutely sure there is one. If only person leaves, this could well be an endurance challenge (or the F4 IC could be). For what it's worth, an unconfirmed tip we received claimed that Lillian wins this, and boots Sandra. But it also claimed that Lillian went to the final two with a man. So use at your own risk. Key word here: UNCONFIRMED I have a theory that TDT is just trying to spice up a dull spoiling weekend. There has been little activity here and at Sucks, so he is getting peeps talking. He still cites the SP's "We have learned than Lil and Darrah are the final 2". For me, that holds much more water than an unconfirmed tip. Snewser got everyone talking when he picked Lil the week Ryno was booted. Even TDT change to Lil just because Snewser said so. It may be payback time for TDT. Just a wild thought.
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bebekid 1621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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12-13-03, 05:05 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: TDT is up!" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-13-03 AT 05:09 PM (EST)Volsfan - NOPE. That is what TDT said not an hour and a half ago. Too bad I did not cut and paste, though someone at Sucks posted more details. That's how I even knew TDT had made a prediction. I will edit with the link at Sucks. Edit - *waves to Volsfan* Hee hee! But here is the thread that is now locked at Sucks that let me know that TDT had made some type of prediction: http://pub207.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm2.showMessage?topicID=16932.topic This person goes on to give his/her feelings, but the boot order is what TDT had up. That was 1:48 Central time.
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-13-03, 05:08 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: TDT is up!" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-13-03 AT 08:28 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 12-13-03 AT 05:08 PM (EST) I think we were both posting at the same time! I was really cornfused! Now, I think we are on the same page! WHEW! ETA: THANKS! ETA: Boy this place is dead! Do I hear crickets? CHIRP CHIRP
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pdragonfly 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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12-14-03, 00:52 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: TDT is up!" |
Well, Its 1am 12/14 est and Snews' present still can't be opened, so I guess I'll have to sleep on this one.I come back from a full day of xmas shopping and my survivor world is turned upside down. Please, what I want from xmas is Jon to get booted out for 4th. Please don't let Lil blow it by taking Jon to F2. Also, did anyone hear that Rupert will be on the Early show Monday morning when the check is collected by the winner? Weird.
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Goooey_Alley 425 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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12-14-03, 08:47 AM (EST)
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28. "What I mean is..." |
Sandra only made it to 4th place, while Lil only made it through final 3. Darrah, winning her 5th consecutive IC's and knowing that Jon is being despised by most jury members, took Jon in the final 2 spot. That may be a good reason why 5 jury members targeted one player (specifically Jon) in the final TC with their quasi-Sue Hawk speech.4th - Sandra (Lil needs Sandra's vote when it comes to F2 'cause Sandra kept on saying that she will vote for her over the others, Jon tries to frame Sandra, and Darrah holding her IC) 3rd - Lil (Lil had a burnt foot and needed the medical attention, and/or Jon stirring up his most diabolic plan to set up Lil) 2nd - Jon (despised by Rupert, Tijuana, Christa, Sandra, and Lil and all of them are victim of Jon's betrayal, good thing it might not be a 7-0 upset 'cause he had his short-time boyfriend Burton to give him 1 vote) (regarding the final IC, he immediately gave up or maybe outbalanced or something, like what Matt did) 1st - Darrah (the superwoman who won the IC's 'til the end, she could be the younger woman with a male-sounding name)
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joannie 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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12-14-03, 10:29 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: E13: Discussion of other sites" |
Duh! My bad! I was concentrating so much on Pearl Islands that I forgot all about the time!
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dendanash 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 11:04 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Snewser?" |
Anyone know when we get to unwrap the christmas present? I never cud wait til christmas
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dendanash 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 12:12 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Snewser?" |
Thanks Volsfan. By any chance do you know what he has to show us? Is he going to give us his predictions for the way he believes the F4 will go down? For example: J/S/L/D. Or is he just going to give us who he thinks will be the Ultimate Survivor?
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dendanash 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 01:48 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Snewser?" |
thanks again. I don't know about you but I can't wait until tonight. Thanks for the info
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dendanash 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 02:10 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: E13: Discussion of other sites" |
It is killing me too. I am playing for a trip. I am on pins and needles........................
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LeftPinky 4150 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-14-03, 02:13 PM (EST)
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48. "Snewser" |
says Jon & DArrah boot Sandra wins!
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-14-03, 02:26 PM (EST)
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56. "just one thing to say:" |
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dendanash 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 02:14 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Acme is Up" |
F4 Immunity: Darrah F4 Boot: Jon F3 Immunity: Darrah F3 Boot: Sandra Winner: Darrah
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LeftPinky 4150 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-14-03, 02:16 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: SNEWER'S PICKS-SHOCKING!!!" |
I noticed the no checkmarks too! I wonder if he'll make a shift at the 11th hour?
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dendanash 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 02:21 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: SNEWER'S PICKS-SHOCKING!!!" |
OMG.... Now is not the time for him to do this. I am so confused...lol His picks match TDT if they don't change them again
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LeftPinky 4150 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-14-03, 02:29 PM (EST)
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57. "The gift is..." |
Sandra pics - all 20 of them!
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clemsonbeav 4208 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-14-03, 02:39 PM (EST)
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60. "The Christmas Tree has a present!" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-14-03 AT 02:44 PM (EST)Looks like Sandra is bringin' home the bacon... (the pic you get by clicking the tree)
EDIT: to fix pic, and say that I didn't realize it had been posted... and to say that you heard it here first. DWW! Even when you can't see Him, God is there!
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Fweep 35 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 02:51 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!" |
Why would ANYONE think Sandra earned anything? Name one Immunity or Reward challenge she won? Name one thing that she did for the tribe except spy on people, sabotage the tribes food and supplies, ##### about everyone? Name anything, beyond the first episode where she used her knowledge of Spanish and giving her necklace to buy food (which probably lasted them a week)that she did to benefit the tribe?Darrah? Okay she rode coat tails and stayed under the radar, but she stepped up and won three immunity challenges in a row to keep in the game. She is also the only non-booted Morgan player still in the game. Sandra..?? Bleah. If she wins it just goes to show that you can sit around and do jack and still win the game. I would rather see Jon win the million than Sandra. At least he played the game. Sandra has no clue. Fweep
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Jims02 7407 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-14-03, 02:58 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!" |
You're saying that Sandra hasn't done anything.She, Christa, and Rupert took control of the Drake Tribe in the early episodes. At the merge, she was never in any real danger of being voted out. Sure, Rupert was her fall guy, but that's the point of Survivor. Always have a backup plan. Look at last episode. Who organized the great Burton boot? Well, it's not Lillian for sure. And it's NOT Darrah, who Jon agreed to take to the Final 3 with. SANDRA. Sandra is the one who, all by herself, found 2 unlikely alliance partners and wiped that grin off of Jon's face. Just cuz you win immunities doesn't mean you deserve a cool million. Just ask Colby and Kelly W. A true survivor doesn't NEED the Immunity Necklace to win IMHO. If Sandra does win, it makes me wonder how long ago they really wanted to get rid of Darrah, with her immunity streak... A holiday gift from JSlice
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DaBulldog 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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12-14-03, 03:28 PM (EST)
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77. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!" |
Sandra stabbed Rupert and Christa in the back. That's supposedly her two good friends. Didn't vote with Rupert and helps cost him his boot out of the group and gets Christa blamed for the fish thrown out booted.
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Goooey_Alley 425 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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12-14-03, 04:46 PM (EST)
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98. "Winning Survivor..." |
Doesn't mean you have to win the IC's. Players who don't win IC's and make it through the final 2 took the greater risk 'cause they have 50-50 winning probability.As being previously claimed by other players, Darrah, most of the time, was taking her rest (as Rupert said in his vote against Darrah that T and Lil work harder than her.) But, I salute her for winning the IC's. As for Sandra, she worked well except the last episode where she felt betrayed after Christa got booted. She instead took the risk of forming all-girl alliance since Episode 8. But I would rather be happier to see a Darrah-Jon-Sandra finale than having Lil sit with either one of them. Peace...
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kywildcat 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 02:55 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!--really??" |
How "for sure" is this???? I hope 100%--but is it really anybody's guess? kywildcat
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speedyforme 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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12-14-03, 03:05 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!--really??" |
i pray pray that they are correct, LILL and SANDRA final 2 would be killa, everyone ganging up on LIll and Sandra just sitting there being herself and honest and winningand YES Sandra did play the game, she tried the Chica alliance for how many episodes now? she may not win challenges but its not her fault really, she tried her best... she schemed a lot and did whatever it took to stay in the game WITHOUT immunity so props to her for staying in that long... plus, she's entertaining as hell!!!
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anninvt2002 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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12-14-03, 03:06 PM (EST)
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67. "Jon's Quote" |
Which episode was Jon's quote about Sandra and the million?
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Rothschild 496 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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12-14-03, 03:44 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: Jon's Quote" |
You get an A+ in Film Editing 101 at USC.
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Fweep 35 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 03:09 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!--really??" |
Sandra did try to do the chica alliance, but the problem was, she failed on every attempt, UNTIL, Lil came up and said she would do it.She tried and tried but simply never pulled it together, unlike Jon/Burton who masterminded three blindside boots. Sorry, I believe she tried many things, but just wasn't successful, to me that isn't a survivor, it is lucky. Fweep
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speedyforme 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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12-14-03, 03:17 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!--really??" |
ok i agree as well, BUT at least Sandra was one of the only wmone who saw that the women HAD to allign in order to break up Jon/Burton/Lill early enoughYes Jon and Burton played extremely well, but they made that ONE mistake of going togehter on that reward challenge, if you slip up once (especially when it was a conscious decision) then you also do not deserve to win... not to mention, Buront screwed up twice and Jon has done watever to win this game including selling his soul to the devil, IMO Sandra is the lesser of 2 evils Lill also rided on coattails and Darrah, well i have absolutely nothing against her, if i saw more of her and her personality i would vote for her as well... Sandra, Darrah, Jon, Lill are my choices for Survivor (1,2,3,4)
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kywildcat 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 03:49 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!--really??" |
Just my opinion--Sandra is the only one of the 3 women with the least bit of common sense. If it weren't for her, Lill and Darrah would still be buying Jon's crap. I loved it when Sandra got Darrah up in the night to eavesdrop on Jon and Burton. Too cool. I agree that Lill has rode coat tails all the way. That whiney, boyscout aura is a bunch of b.s. What's gotten invisible Darrah this far is the IC's. She's good at winning those, I'll give her that. But like I said, if it weren't for Sandra "showing her the light" she'd still think she was flying in under Jon's wing. I would love to see any of those three women beat Jon though. He is a disgusting rodent. If he wins one cent tonight, I won't be able to sleep a wink. I'll be quite happy if Sandra really wins!!! I think she is basically a decent person and I would love to see a decent person win a reality show for a change. Too bad it's not Rupert though. kywildcat
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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12-14-03, 04:05 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!--really??" |
Episode 1-3: Integral to Drake's amazing start in the game. Started building her opinions and relationships very early on, keeping under the shadows of others while still not allowing herself to be pushed around.Episode 4-5: Was obviously shown to be in the power group. Episode 6: Single handedly smacks down a power grab, sticking with those she knows will get her further in the game. Obviously was pretty damn well trusted by everyone at this point. This girl was in on everything that ever happened on this tribe! Episode 7a-8: Standard alliance episodes. It's good to note that she managed to put her feelings for Burton aside and accept him (and Lill) back with open arms, something the very very stupid Morgan tribe forgot to do for Lill (Except for T). We also see that her true alliance is with Christa and that both of them are very aware Rupert will have to go at some point in the future for them to succeed. Episode 9: The first time we're actually let into one of the sneakiest tricks ever used in the game. Sandra is ALWAYS on top of everything and this is why. Some say she was blindsided here, some say she knew what was going down and it was time for Rupert to go. Personally I think she was completely unaware of what was happening and commited a big Survivor nono by getting too confident in her alliance. Really, this has no effect on my view of her as a player going into the final, since I can name many times all three other members of the final 4 have been blindsided in this game. Episode 10: Organizes the female alliance ENTIRELY BY HERSELF. Eventually makes the RIGHT decision and sticks with Jon. Christa was doomed either way, but at least they had a chance to get rid of D after Tijuana, thereby guaranteeing both of them at least fifth (and they would have, according to Insider, had she not won immunity). It's funny that Jon and Sandra have been eachother's best allies within the game, even though they despise eachother. They both get massive credit for putting personal feelings aside to just play the damn game. There have been many idiotic players before them who haven't been able to do so. I should also mention the fish dumping, which, while vengeful, was an unexpected blessing for her, making sure that Christa would go before she would (at least for that episode). It should also be noted that Christa and herself are the only two NOT to believe the incredibly bad lying of Jon and his friend. Episode 11: Not much she could do here at all. Susses out Christa, testing her loyalty. Christa fails but Sandra still tries to save her. I have very little doubt that, had Darrah not won immunity, she would've been gone right here. Episode 12: Once again, organizes the secondary female alliance ENTIRELY BY HERSELF, feeding off of the insecurities of the other ladies. Fools Burton and Jon entirely by keeping up the same "as long as it's not me" act that she's displayed throughout the entire game. Commits to the necessary evil in order to gain the trust of Jon the Vile and then blindsides the "best players in the game" completely at the council. Even without the female alliance, it should be noted that she was in 0% danger here, despite being the last of her alliance. Episode 13: TBA, but guess who's the only one with no votes against? And Jon? I also think he's a great player and I wouldn't mind him winning either, but he's made far more mistakes and has had far more luck involved in his gameplan than Sandra has. We see right from E1 that Jon is not well liked. He thinks he's great but nobody else seems to think so (except for maybe the vapid Michelle). He's also amazingly abrasive, something that gets turned around on him very often. Yes Sandra is also abrasive, but you'll notice that she WINS any war of words that she gets into. In E6, his trust for Sandra is pretty amazing. I have no idea how Trish and himself could be clueless of her relationship at least with Christa, since they seemed to spend all their time together, but the power grab was a majorly boneheaded move when they were relying on such unstable players as Sandra and Shawn. At the merge, Jon is pretty lucky that Shawn is a complete friggin moron. Not that I'm not glad he was voted off. And now the main reason why Jon was able to do so well: The Outcasts. It was an awful twist and damaging to the integrity of the game, but it gave Drake the upper hand and set Jon up perfectly for a power grab later on. Without that twist, Ruperts alliance of the strong most likely would've happened and he wouldn't have gotten much further, especially since all of Morgan hated and distrusted him at this time for that stupid reveal in E6 while raiding the camp - something that gave the Morgans something to fight for in the next immunity challenge. And it's been extremely careless to just walk down the beach and not even check the general area before revealing major plans. Granted, it's an amazing strategy by Sandra to sneak around and listen, but still, I know I'd be more careful with important information. The dead grandmother was fantastic, and one of the best moves of the game. Despicable, but very smart. Finally, the last we've seen of him was his complete blindsiding by Sandra, who, after all this time, he is still completely underestimating. Given that he also thinks she's "honest", I'm guessing that Sandra is also somewhat UTR with her gameplaying, even though we as the audience see everything. This also puts her above Jon, who has made every one of his moves into a public spectacle. Burton said it last week, this is a really stupid way to play the game, unless you're going for 2nd place. The jury hates Jon's guts, and I'm guessing that's not a good thing once you're down to the final two.
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badger 1273 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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12-14-03, 03:33 PM (EST)
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80. "sandra win = best gift ever" |
i must say i was friggin' thrilled to open snewser's present! sandra (along with rupert) were my faves from day 1 -- heck, even before the show started, when many of the promos for survivor had sandra's sassy self in them.i just thought i'd add that we've been given several "key quotes" about sandra throughout the season, not just the one with jon. sandra, it was often repeated, will vote for anyone as long as it'll stop her name from coming up, for example. have there been any key quotes of this magnatude about darrah?!? i mean, other than her confessing she didn't know how to light a fire (during the TC when lil was booted)?? i also think a sandra-lil F2 would be far more "fiery" than a darrah-lil one. as much as lil is annoying, i can't imagine everyone being snarky just to her. sandra, on the other hand, will freely give and receive snarkiness. well, here's hoping that it really pans out this way.
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angelworth29 532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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12-14-03, 03:27 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!--really??" |
I think Sandra made a great decision to keep her mouth shut when Lill "came up with the idea" to boot Burton. She could have gone on about how she'd tried to convince them of the same thing for a long time. That took a lot of self control to tell Lill, you're right, let's get the guys out. Good for her!
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Zeek 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-14-03, 03:35 PM (EST)
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81. "RE: The Christmas Tree has a present!--really??" |
I hope this is true. A Sandra win would be great. She has done what she could to stay in the game, without winning any challages. She is my favorite of those left. Hopefully Snewser is not playing games with us. Go Sandra
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-14-03, 03:54 PM (EST)
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89. "Snewser wording" |
I just saw on Snewser that he says:Voted off Darrah Jon I know snewser has not been much on words this season butt this allows for something we debated yesterday on this board. Jiffy's quote about not playing for third and some people saying there might be a team challenge with the losing team getting booted therefore avoiding the endurance challenge of, "I will give up if you take me to the finals". Butt, I also heard on the football preview where they say that there will be three tribal councils tonight... Who knows!
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tommiettop 60 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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12-14-03, 04:18 PM (EST)
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93. "RE: Football Previews" |
one to vote out #4, one to vote out #3 and one for the jury to vote the winner
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LeftPinky 4150 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-14-03, 04:24 PM (EST)
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95. "RE: Football Previews" |
duh!
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