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"S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Keep the spoiling here or on the preview vidcaps thread until the West Coasters have a chance to see the episode!

Thanks

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Posting early... IceCat 12-11-03 1
   a HUGE thanks TenPin 12-11-03 97
       RE: a HUGE thanks TechNoir 12-12-03 164
 Must get ahead of Misto volsfan 12-11-03 2
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... clemsonbeav 12-11-03 3
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... clemsonbeav 12-11-03 4
       RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... volsfan 12-11-03 5
           RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... clemsonbeav 12-11-03 6
               RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... volsfan 12-11-03 7
               RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Magic Fingers 12-11-03 14
 E12 CBS Survivor Fantasy contest zorrosurvives 12-11-03 8
   RE: E12 CBS Survivor Fantasy contes... volsfan 12-11-03 11
   RE: E12 CBS Survivor Fantasy contes... Magic Fingers 12-11-03 16
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... buckeyegirl 12-11-03 9
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... volsfan 12-11-03 10
       RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... buckeyegirl 12-11-03 12
           RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... volsfan 12-11-03 13
       RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... clemsonbeav 12-11-03 17
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Loree 12-11-03 15
   live feed link pinchy 12-11-03 18
       RE: live feed link WackeeChik 12-11-03 23
           nah Blow by Blow 12-11-03 26
               Live feed link.... not... LookeeLoo 12-12-03 176
           RE: live feed link pinchy 12-11-03 28
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... volsfan 12-11-03 19
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... tinybubs 12-11-03 20
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... ExInterper 12-11-03 21
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... volsfan 12-11-03 22
       RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... ExInterper 12-11-03 24
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Blow by Blow 12-11-03 25
 Night 33 ExInterper 12-11-03 27
   Congrats Blow by Blow 12-11-03 29
       RE: Congrats ExInterper 12-11-03 37
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... buckeyegirl 12-11-03 30
   Food rules Blow by Blow 12-11-03 34
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Kokoro 12-11-03 31
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... buckeyegirl 12-11-03 33
 grumble Loquatrix 12-11-03 32
   RE: grumble Blow by Blow 12-11-03 35
       RE: grumble Loquatrix 12-11-03 38
           damn Blow by Blow 12-11-03 44
               where is the cheese? LookeeLoo 12-12-03 178
 RC ExInterper 12-11-03 36
   RE: RC Blow by Blow 12-11-03 40
   RE: RC queencityfan 12-11-03 41
       I bet he's moonbaby 12-11-03 46
   RE: RC volsfan 12-11-03 42
   RE: RC bebekid 12-11-03 43
       RE: RC bluecarman 12-11-03 51
       RE: RC volsfan 12-11-03 52
       RE: RC LeftPinky 12-12-03 160
   RE: RC MandyM 12-11-03 45
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... buckeyegirl 12-11-03 39
 The Red Envoy Loree 12-11-03 47
   RE: The Red Envoy Loree 12-11-03 49
 Envoy is the vee-hickle moonbaby 12-11-03 48
   RE: Envoy is the vee-hickle buckeyegirl 12-11-03 53
 Post RC ExInterper 12-11-03 50
   RE: Post RC robindobindoodledoo 12-11-03 56
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... queencityfan 12-11-03 54
 Classic Too Confident Episode pdragonfly 12-11-03 55
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Ra_8secs 12-11-03 57
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Loquatrix 12-11-03 58
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... pinchy 12-11-03 62
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... tinybubs 12-11-03 59
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... buckeyegirl 12-11-03 61
   speaking of kittens JohnMc 12-12-03 189
 Pre IC ExInterper 12-11-03 60
 IC ExInterper 12-11-03 63
   RE: IC Loree 12-11-03 65
   RE: IC buckeyegirl 12-11-03 71
 darrah wins pdragonfly 12-11-03 64
   RE: darrah wins MandyM 12-11-03 66
   RE: darrah wins bebekid 12-11-03 67
   RE: darrah wins speedyforme 12-11-03 70
   RE: darrah wins badger 12-11-03 72
   RE: darrah wins TheWanderer 12-11-03 73
       RE: darrah wins porcelina 12-11-03 150
           RE: darrah wins mistofleas 12-11-03 153
               RE: darrah wins I_AM_HE 12-11-03 155
 Not pulling any punches pdragonfly 12-11-03 68
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... queencityfan 12-11-03 69
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... speedyforme 12-11-03 74
 Pre TC ExInterper 12-11-03 75
   Lovin' it Loree 12-11-03 77
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Kneezy 12-11-03 76
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... pinchy 12-11-03 80
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Magic Fingers 12-11-03 81
       RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... volsfan 12-11-03 122
           RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... anotherkim 12-11-03 141
       RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... emydi 12-11-03 144
           RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... LeftPinky 12-12-03 161
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... TheWanderer 12-11-03 78
 Tribal Council ExInterper 12-11-03 79
   RE: Tribal Council Loree 12-11-03 82
       Glee glee glee! moonbaby 12-11-03 96
           King o' the Hypocrites anotherkim 12-11-03 143
               RE: The King is dead! kary1371 12-11-03 149
   RE: Tribal Council Loquatrix 12-11-03 84
   RE: Tribal Council speedyforme 12-11-03 85
       Is Burton crazy? Loree 12-11-03 90
           RE: Is Burton crazy? bobstew617 12-11-03 108
               RE: Is Burton crazy? kary1371 12-11-03 138
                   RE: Is Burton crazy? porcelina 12-11-03 148
   RE: Tribal Council mistofleas 12-11-03 105
 The Jury's reaction pdragonfly 12-11-03 83
   Burton buckeyegirl 12-11-03 86
   RE: The Jury's reaction atherella 12-11-03 93
   RE: The Jury's reaction bobstew617 12-11-03 102
       RE: The Jury's reaction porcelina 12-11-03 151
           RE: The Jury's reaction TenPin 12-12-03 191
 oooh! J Slice 12-11-03 87
   RE: oooh! Dominique 12-11-03 95
       RE: oooh! Loree 12-11-03 109
 Burton's Final Words Kokoro 12-11-03 88
 Final Words and Next Time ExInterper 12-11-03 89
   RE: Final Words and Next Time SurvivorBlows 12-11-03 101
       RE: Final Words and Next Time travelingbetty 12-11-03 118
       RE: Final Words and Next Time TechNoir 12-12-03 166
           RE: Final Words and Next Time tommiettop 12-12-03 180
   Burton is an a$$$ coolflowerpowerman 12-11-03 136
   Johnny Rotten shakes the clown 12-12-03 169
       RE: Johnny Rotten ExInterper 12-12-03 174
 Burton's an idiot Jims02 12-11-03 91
 Halfway there... IceCat 12-11-03 92
 Burton - sore loser!! pdragonfly 12-11-03 94
   RE: Burton - sore loser!! KObrien_fan 12-11-03 100
       RE: Burton - sore loser!! ExInterper 12-11-03 103
   Burton whines! queencityfan 12-11-03 107
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... KObrien_fan 12-11-03 98
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Danullyre 12-11-03 111
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... emydi 12-11-03 158
       RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Witless 12-12-03 170
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... flygirl 12-11-03 99
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... zzz 12-11-03 106
       RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... queencityfan 12-11-03 120
           RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Loree 12-11-03 124
           Jon's talk was all show anotherkim 12-11-03 145
 Burton Bites it tommiettop 12-11-03 104
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Kneezy 12-11-03 110
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... mistofleas 12-11-03 112
   What, no "scrambling"? pinchy 12-11-03 117
       RE: What, no "scrambling"? mistofleas 12-11-03 140
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Dominique 12-12-03 162
 Leave poor Burton alone! IceCat 12-11-03 113
   RE: Leave poor Burton alone! pdragonfly 12-11-03 114
   RE: Leave poor Burton alone! queencityfan 12-11-03 116
   RE: Leave poor Burton alone! J Slice 12-11-03 119
       At least the tent won't smell like.... IceCat 12-11-03 129
   RE: Leave poor Burton alone! coolflowerpowerman 12-11-03 133
   Awwww moonbaby 12-11-03 134
 Random observations Oscirus 12-11-03 115
   RE: Random observations CassieJordan 12-11-03 121
       RE: Random observations Oscirus 12-11-03 147
       RE: Random observations djandy 12-11-03 152
   RE: Random observations queencityfan 12-11-03 123
       RE: Random observations J Slice 12-11-03 127
           RE: Random observations Oscirus 12-11-03 135
   RE: Random observations miracle1969mets 12-11-03 154
       RE: Random observations Oscirus 12-11-03 157
   RE: Random observations SnowBunny 12-12-03 163
 RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... ecoop 12-11-03 125
   RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thr... Loree 12-11-03 126
 My Rant volsfan 12-11-03 128
   RE: My Rant pdragonfly 12-11-03 130
       RE: My Rant Oscirus 12-11-03 131
       RE: My Rant mistofleas 12-11-03 142
   RE: My Rant miracle1969mets 12-11-03 156
       RE: My Rant DaUnfan 12-12-03 177
           RE: My Rant volsfan 12-12-03 184
               RE: My Rant DaUnfan 12-14-03 193
                   RE: My Rant volsfan 12-14-03 194
 Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Epi... zzz 12-11-03 132
   RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This... Black_Beard 12-11-03 137
       RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This... mistofleas 12-11-03 146
   RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This... abbahammer 12-11-03 139
       RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This... Witless 12-12-03 168
       you just don't get it shakes the clown 12-12-03 172
           RE: you just don't get it queencityfan 12-12-03 181
   Darrah's performance in IC SnowBunny 12-12-03 165
       RE: Darrah's performance in IC Moth 12-12-03 182
           RE: Darrah's performance in IC udg 12-12-03 183
   RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This... Dominique 12-12-03 167
       RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This... fredscott 12-12-03 175
           RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This... DaUnfan 12-12-03 179
               RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This... Loquatrix 12-12-03 192
   I heart ZZZ shakes the clown 12-12-03 171
       RE: I heart ZZZ ExInterper 12-12-03 173
           RE: I heart ZZZ okaloosajohn 12-12-03 188
       RE: I heart ZZZ zzz 12-12-03 185
       RE: I heart ZZZ okaloosajohn 12-12-03 186
 Next time on Survivor... clemsonbeav 12-12-03 159
   RE: Next time on Survivor... okaloosajohn 12-12-03 187
       RE: Next time on Survivor... clemsonbeav 12-12-03 190

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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "Posting early..."
... to give everyone with a case of the giddies a place to vent while waiting for the episode to start.
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12-11-03, 09:01 PM (EST)
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97. "a HUGE thanks"
Thank you so much for all the updates especially ExI!!! You rock the keyboard!!

If the jury was happy to see Burton go, what does this say about Lill's chances in the final??

TenPin
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intellegent, but the most responsive to change." Charles Darwin

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12-12-03, 00:31 AM (EST)
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164. "RE: a HUGE thanks"
Nothing. It says more about Jon's chances.


Merry Tu B'Shevat

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2. "Must get ahead of Misto"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 07:18 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 06:55 PM (EST)

I wanna be first! LOL!


ETA: Thanks this will also give a place make last minute deductions!

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3. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
A wee bit early? jk


Thanks IC!
Even when you can't see Him, God is there!

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4. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Wow, those were a quick 3 posts. Why not make it 4?


Even when you can't see Him, God is there!

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5. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Your just antsy because your finished with exams!


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12-11-03, 06:57 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
You have no idea how happy I am right now!!! Between Mexican History, 2nd Semester Physics (with Calculus), Spanish Grammar and Composition, and Historical Geography, I've been living off of caffeine for the past 3 days needless to say!

But now I'm FREE!


You want a Coke?
Even when you can't see Him, God is there!

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12-11-03, 07:19 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Actually, I do know how you feel...I graduated in May of this year with my MBA...I thought the weight of the world had lifted off my shoulders!


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12-11-03, 07:39 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Congrats Clemsonboy. I was so excited when I finished also.
I might have to follow along with this thread tonight since I am stuck upsairs with the flu, don't want to infect everyone. They are recording it for me to watch later.

Magic Fingers

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8. "E12 CBS Survivor Fantasy contest"
The main thing I'll be looking for is if someone
1) sleeps
2) fishes
3) says tribe name (which one? - no one knows how they score this)
for the survivor fantasy game on the CBS survivor site.

There are also points for singing, and Christa said Lil was always singing, but I didn't vote for that.

I am nervous.

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11. "RE: E12 CBS Survivor Fantasy contest"
Zorro...good luck!


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16. "RE: E12 CBS Survivor Fantasy contest"
zorro. I also will be wondering. I decided to put Burton back in my team because I think he can still give me more points that Lil. I also wonder if it matters what tribe name they say!

Magic Fingers

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9. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Only 45 more minutes to go...I can't wait. My head is spinning after reading the IC thread. Even after reading it, I still have no clue who will win.


-steals Volsfans Coke from CB...needs it to help finish writing her Bachelorette summary

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10. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Buckeye...I have a headache after that damn thresd! I need a coke! Will you share?



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12-11-03, 07:33 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 07:41 PM (EST)

Of course I'll share Countdown continues: Only 30 minutes left. I really shouldn't be this excited over a tv show.


-hands Volsfan an Excedrin for his headache
-edited because Volsfan isn't a she. When will I learn not to assume these things?

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13. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
About 25 mins till it starts. I just re-watched the previews and I am really looking forward to see how ladies form the little alliance. I think it happens around the same time Sandra says that she wants to get rid of the jackasses!


I am a he!

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17. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
What kind?


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15. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
ET was showing the RC and they were digging in the sand under the fence and the winner gets a getaway meal in Panama City.
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Don't forget the popcorn... and for us West Coasters the live feed link:

MMS://199.218.4.68/10TVLIVE

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Is the link working for anyone, yet?
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I get a message saying the server is busy. This hasn't been working for me in weeks.
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Not working for me either...


A Slicey original

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not working here, something about protocols...
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19. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 07:58 PM (EST)

3 mins! WOO HOO! I can't wait to hear...previously on Survivor!

I have no idea why I am so antsy over tonight's show butt I can't wait!


ETA: I have my sour patch kids and I am ready for it to start!

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20. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "

Shhhhhhh! I'm trying to watch the show.
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21. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Showtime!

Recrap:
Sandra's proposal of chica alliance to Darrah
Showing Sandra's incompetence in RC
Scenes from the spa and Lil's cucumbers
Beating the grandma line into the ground again
Lil wanting reassurance from Burton
Darrah winning IC (Southern girls can shoot!)
Christa and Sandra being naive, and Christa's gone.
"Five are left. Who will be voted out tonight?"

And cue pirates!


Yet another Jslice masterpiece!
"Let's hope Osten doesn't smoke. He might decide to quit breathing." - Jims02, Ep 7a Summary

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22. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
DAMN ExI...u got fire fingers tonight! WOW...you typing fast!


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24. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
I'm in practice thanks to outlining for finals. This is my "change of pace" typing.


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25. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Sounds like we're primed for a Sandra challenge win and a chica alliance.
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27. "Night 33"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 08:07 PM (EST)

Burton braggin about "blindsiding" C & S, and Jon even tells Sandra directly that she's going home tomorrow...but surprise! He's lying. Darrah's next on the block for J and B.

Day 34: Sandra's feeling low. She's planning to exact revenge: hiding tools, water canteens, masks, spears, etc. Um...petty, party of 1?

J, B & L are harvesting mussels, and J proposes to get rid of D, but Lil doesn't like it. She's whining how her alliance is being flaky (um, hello? Lil? they're not trustworthy. Duh.)



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29. "Congrats"
congrats on your 600th post!
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37. "RE: Congrats"
Thanks!


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30. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Night shot...pictures of snakes..lightening flashing. Burton and Lil and Jon are talking. Burton gloating over getting rid of CHrista. Sandra: I can't complain, I have three more days, huh?
Jon: Sandra is clueless, I'm going to keep it that why.
Sandra: I'm not feeling to good because Christa is gone and my days are numbered. I am now working on my revenge. Going to do something to the water and hide the nets, and hide the mataches, and the spears. I'm going down and they are going to feel it more then I am. What a witch!
Jon and Burton: We're going to go after Darrah next because she's a threat.
Lil: This is not right, what happened to our alliance? Now burton is hemhawing around our alliance. If they can screw D over, they can screw me over.


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34. "Food rules"
y'know, this is straight from the Rules page on CBS:

Any misconduct is against the rules, including but not limited to stealing or misappropriating food, harming other Survivors or crew members, and acts of violence.

WTF, if they were serious about this don't you think they'd give Sandra her walking papers?

-P

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31. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
As horrible a person he is, Jon is a damn good player. He's thinking very well here.

Note to Lill: Jon TOLD you he was LYING to Darrah about an alliance. And yeesh, even if she was in your alliance, she's only been in it for 2 freaking days! What alliance of 4?!

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33. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Reward is a trip to Panama City. No mention of a car. Lil started out ahead...but is blowing her lead, Jon is ahead.
It is a combination of all previous challenges.


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32. "grumble"
The one time I'm at a PC instead of a Mac, I STILL can't seem to get the live feed to work. ::grunt::
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35. "RE: grumble"
It hasn't worked for me in weeks. Quit your whinin'.

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38. "RE: grumble"
::directs her whining specifically at P because he drew attention to himself at just the wrong moment::
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44. "damn"
I hate whining directed at me. It's bad enough that I have a two year old around to do that without you joining in.
-P
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178. "where is the cheese?"
I'm passing out non-allergic cheese for all. Yea, Jon is a whinner.


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36. "RC"
Called "second chances"

Tied to a post in a cage with ropes around hands and ankles. Untie yourself, and dig under a bamboo post and use the ropes to make an X to find a key. Then, make a pole to get a second key to let you out of the cage. You shoot down three plates with a slingshot, and the plate is attached to a bag of letters. Unscramble the letters to find the name of a famous pirate.

Winner gets a night away from camp at Panama ruins.

Lil is untied first, BUrton next, Jon third, S and D behind. All are digging.

Burton and Lil are through first, everyone else is through and trying to figure out where the ropes should cross.

Jon has his key first. Lil can't figure out coordinates (some Scoutmaster). Burton is done next. Sandra third, then Lil (finally!).

Burton has the lead making the pole and Lil is talking to herself (Crazy? I was crazy once....). Burton's got the second key and is out of the cage, and quickly shatters his plates. The others are way behind, and Burton is unscrambling the letters. Burton wins (didn't hear the name of the pirate...Jolly something).

Burton gets to take someone with him, and chooses Jon. (Wow...leave the three girls alone. Not too bright.)



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40. "RE: RC"
Well that went down just like we figured. Burton made a bad call taking Jon with him. You'd think Jon would have instructed him against this. It would have made a lot more sense to take Sandra. She's been whining about wanting a reward and this could have been just the thing to sweeten her up.
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41. "RE: RC"
Jiffy told Jon he was six inches short!!!

ROTFLOL

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46. "I bet he's "
heard that before.

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42. "RE: RC"
ExI...you are the best ever! I take my hat off to you!


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43. "RE: RC"
Had Burton taken Sandra the mutiny might have never happened.

Enjoy your night with Jon, Burton. Get 1 million bucks worth of enjoyment.

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51. "RE: RC"
It seems to me that the non-thinking contestants always mess this up. Showing arrogance at challenges or not making the politic moves sharing rewards. Sad to say but it seems to me that Jon is leading Burton. Last episode Burton didn't want to talk to Sandra & Christa because Jon wasn't there to coach him.
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52. "RE: RC"
I was thinking the same thing bebekid!


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160. "RE: RC"
exactly my thought Bebe! If Burton takes any of the girls, there is no mutiny!

Brain surgeons all!

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45. "RE: RC"
Bwa ha ha ha!

I LOVE Jiffy!

"John...still working on his pole...wants to make sure it's long enough"

20 seconds later...

"John...about 6 inches too short"

AHAHAHAHA! I love this show!


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39. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
BUrton smokes them all and wins reward. Takes Jon with him. Everyone else looks pissed.


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47. "The Red Envoy"
Burton gets his vehicle.
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49. "RE: The Red Envoy"
The arrogance of Burton and Jon tonight makes me smile to think they are going...
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48. "Envoy is the vee-hickle"
And the old Panama City ruins where Burt and Jon are to camp out are cool!
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53. "RE: Envoy is the vee-hickle"
Jon and Burton are acting so cocky, I can't wait to see the girls stage a mutiny. Lil is so annoying....saying that she's not happy with the third spot to d/s. The girls make a pack: If one of them wins immunity, Burton is gone. If one of the guys wins, it's whoever doesn't have immunity is gone. Before the girls started talking, there was a shot of birds in the camp...i think they were vultures. Burton and Jon keep saying that the girls haven't come up with a decent strategy the whole 20 days, so they have nothing to worry about. (yea, right) B/J aren't sure that they can trust Lil....but will do something to swing her vote. They keep talking about the girls not having a chance. Those two idiots deserve to be voted out.


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50. "Post RC"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 08:25 PM (EST)

Jon and Burton take a boat out, and have a mutual admiration society. Yuck.

Jon thinks that they can step away from camp without worrying about the others strategically. Umm...foreshadowing, anyone?

And THERE'S THE CAR! GMC Envoy, and Jiffy gives the keys to Burton. Burton loves it as an guy into outdoors type sports. Ick. Jon would have been pissed normally if he didn't win the car, but he's OK with Burton winning. How magnamous. Idiot.

B and J drive through Panama City (which is gorgeous, IMO) and they go to ruins in the city. Nice set up. Makes a pretty good dinner date for B and J. Heh heh. Some odd food though (marshmellows?)

The two stuff their face. "Good food and good company." (Maybe the former, but the latter.)

B makes fun of the girls for not really doing anything as far as food or strategy.

But back at camp, the three girls are talking strategy and they all recognize that all have gotten different promises. And Darrah speaks. Again!

And they finally realize that THEY CAN'T TRUST THE GUYS. Duh. Again. Lil tells them that Darrah is next according to the guys, since she is pissed the guys are so easy to break their alliance. Where has she been the last 34 days?

But Lil thinks that no matter what, she'll just talke 3rd, but the other two say that she has a better chance at the IC at F3 against them than against the guys. Lil wants to get Burton out first, and if B wins IC, then Jon.

Once again: taking Jon to RC? Very dumb.

Back at the ruins, B and J laugh off any chance that the girls could rise up against them. (Um guys? There are 3 of them and 2 of you. And you left them alone. Learn to count.)

Jon says they have an intellectual advantage over the girls. Gag. Me. They propose various plots as to what to do, and they agree they can't trust Lil, and decide to approach Sandara as a backup.

More trash talking of the girls, and they keep patting themselves on the back for their brilliance. Idiots.


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56. "RE: Post RC"
If I could reach through the TV & punch them both in the face I would!!
They are so arrogant!
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54. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Was I imagining things or was Lil actually playing the game?
Geesh, bout time.

Great commercial for GMC

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55. "Classic Too Confident Episode"

I'm lovin it, but this is a formula episode. Someone gets too cocky and they get voted off. Love Sandra though. Wow I wouldn't want to cross her.


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57. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Is there an alternative to that MMS video feed site that PhoenixMons gave us earlier?

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58. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Oh gawd, I've got this horrible feeling that Lill is going to bail on D/S at the last minute and stick with Burton, her paramour. ::cringe:: Sounds like she feels she has a better chance at F2 with J/B than she does with D/S.
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62. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Yeah right, that's just MB "manipulediting" setting up for the Burton boot.
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59. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "

The girls remind me of three meek little kittens that have been backed into a corner....now the claws come out.
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61. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 08:37 PM (EST)

This is priceless! The girls are totally agreeing to everything the guys say...Burton's not buying the act. Sandra and Jon made an "alliance" to take her to the f3 w/him and burton. Lil told Burton that she'd vote D out.

IC; Darrah and Lil are in the lead.


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189. "speaking of kittens"
Where did Sandra get that white sweater??? I don't remember ANYONE having a white sweater? or is it a bathrobe? blanket???
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60. "Pre IC"
Next morning:

Shots of monkeys in trees, and the girls are walking up Lil rubbing her skin and whining about not sleeping. Lil doesn't know if it's menopause, but she's hurting and wants to rest her mind. (What mind?) Meanwhile Darrah and Sandra wonder if they can keep Lil past the next TC, since she's pretty nutso. For the nth time today, I say: Duh.

Sandra decides she can't worry about the girls betraying her, since all she can focus on is getting the boys out.

B and J head back to camp, and D and L vow to stick together as they go out to meet them and they bash Sandra. Pretty smart actually. They say that S is so mad, they wouldn't even talk to her, and A SHOT OF SANDRA SLEEPING (for the fantasy game players. )

Burton tries to talk to S, but she's being unresponsive. But Burton seems to smell a rat, and it looks like Jon doesn't either. Burton thinks that if he gives them enough time, he'll catch them in a lie.

B grills L about what happened while they were gone, and Jon tries to grill Sandra. Jon promises S final three (on his grandma, AGAIN) if she tells them if they have a plan. They don't show if she tells him, but he promises to take out D and L first (and makes her swear on her kids, but she silently promises to take out the boys).


Yet another Jslice masterpiece!
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63. "IC"
At the IC, Jiffy takes the sword from Darrah.

It's a walking the plank across water (5 in total). The planks are locked upright. To get their planks down, they have to fill tubes with water to get a ball with the key to float to the top. Once all five are unlocked, get across to grab your flag, and go back to the beginning.

Everyone's pretty even to start, but D has an advantage because her fingers are small (can reach down farther to get the key). She has a pretty big lead, but D and S are not too far behind.

Darrah has her second lock done and everyone else is still trying to fill their second tube. Darrah falls in, giving JOn a chance to catch up.

Darrah has her third key pretty easily (her thin fingers are a plus here. Jiffy says "her weight loss comes in handy." Lil's finger were stuck for a second. Ha!

Jon is close to Darrah and the others are way behind.

Darrah drops her fourth plank, but Jon is still close.

Darrah gets her last key, drops the plank, but Jon also has his last key.

Darrah has the flag and she makes it back ahead of everyone. Three ICs in a row. Wow...this is almost Kelly or Colby worthy.


Yet another Jslice masterpiece!
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65. "RE: IC"
3 IC in a row! Darrah will be a worthy winner.

I can relate to Darrah. I have the small hands and skinny wrists and I always get picked to grab the stuff out of tight spots. She had the advantage.

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71. "RE: IC"
I'm sure Exi and his fast fingers will fill in what I'm missing. It was a race betweent Darrah and Jon. Darrah won by a plank. hehe...when the challenge is over they have shots of everyone: Sandra has a huge grin on her face, Burton looks mad. Lil puts her down, as if she's upset. Jon shakes his head. Darrah swims over to grab the II. Last shot before commericals is Darrah w/a huge smile...looking over to everyone. But I have a feeling that she may be looking at Sandra. (Just my 2 cents.) I can't wait for the scramble to begin.


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64. "darrah wins"

Ok she's got what it takes to be the sole survivor!!
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66. "RE: darrah wins"
I agree, Darrah has what it takes........3 back to back immunity challenges......she rocks!!!!! I've been telling my co-workers since week 2 that she will win it all!


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67. "RE: darrah wins"
Dang right, pdragonfly!
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70. "RE: darrah wins"
man i love Sandra, great player
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72. "RE: darrah wins"
yeah, i'm beginning to be convinced of this (particularly when one compares her to sandra, lil, and jon's "winning" ways)
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73. "RE: darrah wins"
You got it!
Although Darrah doesn't appear to have much of a "personality" she had been FUTR until about three episodes ago when she started winning. She, if anyone does deserve to win, as although Jon has been playing the game, he's been a real pr*ck.
JMHO
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150. "RE: darrah wins"
Darrah has no strategy and as they said in the episode she has been riding on people's coattails. She may have won immunity 3 times, but that doesn't mean she has played the game well. Jon on the other hand has lied, manipulated and schemed and therefore deserves the title of sole survivor. Darrah just sits there like a dummy with no strategy and no plan.
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153. "RE: darrah wins"
I have to disagree. Darrah has been using a strategy that's worked for people in the past. *cough*Vee*cough*

She's been doing the UTR thing. It may not be in your face, but it's a strategy. She's been a strong competitor the whole time too. She's done well in almost every challenge. Even when she was just sitting in the sling, she toughed it out. Now 3 IC's in a row? That's more than any man has done.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big Darrah fan, but we're just now getting to see Darrah more (because MB is now showing her to us) and frankly, if she does win, I won't be nearly as disappointed as I was when Vee won.


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155. "RE: darrah wins"
to quote a post i quoted on bashers, MB isn't playing hide the winner. He's playing hide the fact that the winner isn't very smart.

Darrah is NOT playing strategically. UTR is a fine strategy if you're actually strategizing. Even Lill can make a better case for having played the game.


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68. "Not pulling any punches"
The previews aren't even bothing with misdirection. Darrah wins even after falling in.

Kudos to everyone who spoiled the IC by guessing what's needed. You guys are the best!


I'm really happy for the women. Looks like they've finally learned to lie, and stick with it.

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69. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Seeing D win with that amazing concentration is starting to make me feel less bad about her possibly winning
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74. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
acting like Lill is going home???
soooooooo OBVIOUS Burton is going home
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75. "Pre TC"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 09:05 PM (EST)

Day 36:

Jon says that Lil is now the next to go because D won IC; says that Lil has broken down physically and mentally, and he doesn't trust her right now. J grills her one more time, but she tells him to back off.

J and B thinks that the girls have made a deal, and they call Lil a "disaster" and a "basketcase." They are just NOW realizing this?

Burton is worried that L and D are too tight, and approaches S about voting for L and D. She says she'll vote for Lil, and Burton seems to believe her since he thinks she'll vote for whomever get her farther in the game.

The boys cook fish, and talk to D about voting out Lil as well. They say they will vote for her. Jon says that the girls are foolish and don't even share a whole brain. Says they don't do anything for women's rights, and they are nothing more than followers. Oh, I can't WAIT for this vote.


Yet another Jslice masterpiece!
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77. "Lovin' it"
I just love the show tonight. Burton & Jon are going to be blindsided. And I loved Sandra's face at TC when Burton was talking.
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76. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
T's smile is blinding me from the jury box.
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80. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Is Burton out yet?
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81. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
I LOVED it when the jury was hi-fiving each other!!!

Magic Fingers

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122. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
"I LOVED it when the jury was hi-fiving each other!!!"

UM...that was Rupert and Christa, they were the only ones hi-fiving and they are just jealous that they got booted!


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141. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Oh, they deserve to be happy. Burton was a dolt and good riddance . Of course, they're jealous, but they can celebrate, too. That's the most emotion I've ever seen in a jury.


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144. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
>I LOVED it when the jury
>was hi-fiving each other!!!
>
>Magic Fingers


The look on Ryno Rupert and especially Christa's face (BTW didnt she look fab on the jury not the freaky look on the Early show last Friday)and the hi fives It was the best Survivor moment EVER!!!!

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161. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Between the hi-fivin jury and the enormous smiles on Darrah and Sandra... this was an AWESOME Tc.....

Oh yeah, poor Jon - BLINDSIDED!

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78. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
At one point I was rooting for Burton... up until the last episode and now, even though I'm not watching the show yet (I'm on the West Coast), Burton is pitiful! My hope is that Darrah wins and Sandra comes in second. However, it may very well be Darrah against Jon, whom she'd have a better chance winning against; especially when someway, somehow, they all find out he lied about his grandmother.
BTW... what is with his flashing signs (I'm not sure if her's flashing the "V" for peace, or trying to flash gang-signs)?
To me, Jon is not a likeable person. He's probably as much a d*ckhead in real life.
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79. "Tribal Council"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 08:54 PM (EST)

Everyone walks in, and the jury comes in (girls looking good, too.)

Seating order: D and S in the front, Burton Lil and Jon in the back.

Darrah gracefully accepts praise for the IC win, but says she doesn't have energy and S agrees: they don't talk because she's too tired.

JOn says he's impressed with the women because of their strength.

Lil says she didn't think she'd last this long. Jon says he is always surprised by tribal councils, and Burton says that it's usually a blindside.

Voting starts;
Burton: Lil (He doesn't want to go against her at F2)
Sandra: not shown
Jon: Lil (another stupid wrestling thing, i think)
Darrah and Lil: not shown

Votes are revealed:
Lil
Lil
Burton
Burton (and now he looks worried)
and Burton is gone! He takes it well though, but Jon looks a little shocked.

"For the second time, the tribe has spoken."

Sandra smiles, very pleased, but Jon is now smiling first.

Jiffy calls them the "masters of the blindside." He notes that three of them are together, but no one is playing for third.


Yet another Jslice masterpiece!
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82. "RE: Tribal Council"
Loved the joy on the jury when Burton walked out!
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96. "Glee glee glee!"
Loved tonight's vote especially after Assplay's the girls are sharing a brain and can't play the game comment. Barton Fink's final comments 'Lill, I hope you can live with yourself, we had an alliance' Huh? Hey burtmunch, whose name did YOU write down on that paper, hmmm? I'm pretty sure it said LILL. You sicken me.


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143. "King o' the Hypocrites"
what an arrogant sh!thead. Is he so damn dumb that he's already forgotten that he was trying to boot Lil???? WTF? Jon was the brains in that pair, hands down.


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149. "RE: The King is dead! "
Woo hoo!
I never liked him from the start, but tonight, he was such an ass that I am happy happy happy that he is gone!
Sandra played them so well! They were so ready to trust those "stupid" women.... this was just sweet sweet sweet!
And Jon he was happy too! He sure was smiling... He might be, who am I kidding? He IS an ass, but he is no fool, he knew this one was coming, just let it happen...
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84. "RE: Tribal Council"
ExI, you so totally rock. Thank you for the commentary, as always.
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85. "RE: Tribal Council"
BEST EPISODE EVER!!

LOL

I was so happy when the jury gave each other PROPS over Burton going home and Sandra's look....man, awesome episode

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90. "Is Burton crazy?"
In his final speech he says he hopes Lil can live with herself. They had an alliance and she broke it. Didn't Burton vote for Lil? Wasn't he planning to not take her to the F2?
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108. "RE: Is Burton crazy?"
No, he's just an @ssh@le! I was STUNNED when I heard him diss Lill after he got voted off. Sir, you have NO class--you deserve to fall in a slime pit with your best buddy, Johnny Rotten ( I LOVE that name )

GO DARRAH!!

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138. "RE: Is Burton crazy?"
Hasn't he blinsided pretty much every one anyways?
In other words vote for people after telling them they were safe....
I couldn't believe it when I heard his comments. What a sour loser! Come on he was betraying Lill and then complains because she got to him first?!?!!
After calling the women what they did, Jon and him, it's about time it bit them in the @ss!!!!! Happy to not see him anymore... now if they could only get rid of Jon.....
What? A girl can dream?!!?!!
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148. "RE: Is Burton crazy?"
Well actually Lill wanted to get rid of him in the beginning of the episode, it was only after jon told him of his suspicions of a female alliance did burton realize that lill was gonna betray him. So he did what he had to do.
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105. "RE: Tribal Council"
The thing that I liked at TC was when Burton got the boot, they showed the jury and Christa, Rupert and Ryan all gave each other high fives. Well not high fives but that, you know, knocking fist together thing.

They were pleased as punch.

Way cool!

Jons face was priceless. He looked like he was gonna puke!

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83. "The Jury's reaction"
First time I ever saw a jury give each other smiles and smacking fists. They were very happy. And so am I.

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86. "Burton"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 08:59 PM (EST)

is a jerk. In his last words, had the nerve to slam lil about breaking their alliance. Said "Hope you can live yourself." Ummm...didn't you break your alliance to her when you voted Lil? I'm so glad he is gone. I really could live with a Darrah win after these last couple of weeks-she's shown she has what it takes.


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93. "RE: The Jury's reaction"
Rupert's reaction was priceless!! Actually the jury's reaction in general was GREAT!! First time we've ever seen true emotion out of them. That was SO AWESOME after all of Jon's talk about how dumb women are! Yah girls!!!
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102. "RE: The Jury's reaction"
That was the first time I've seen Rupert smile since he was voted off. JUSTICE! Jon, you are so BURNED!!!

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151. "RE: The Jury's reaction"
That was a disgusting display of emotion by the jury. These idiots would of done the same thing had they made it furthur in the game, you have to vote someone out, it's not like there is a choice so therefore they would of done the same thing (voting ppl out as rupert and his alliance were planning to)Burton was playing the game and he played it to the best of his ability, whereas those fools in the jury did not. I mean sure rupert fished but come on this is a game of mind games, and clearly he was not a good player in that aspect.
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191. "RE: The Jury's reaction"
It is hard to say exactly why the jury reacted the way they did, but I for one think that they were reacting to see a damn outcast finally get re-voted out.

I do concur that Rupert wasn't the most cerebral of players, but then an emotional response is exactly what I would expect.

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87. "oooh!"
Ooooh, that turd Burton had the nerve to say "We had an alliance, Lill, and you broke it."

WTF?! HE VOTED FOR LILL!

Burton = stupidest


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95. "RE: oooh!"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 09:00 PM (EST)

He's got some nerve, huh! Guess he joins Savage in the "sore losers" corner

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109. "RE: oooh!"
Burton and Andrew can spend the reunion show complaining about how Lil hurt them. I love it!
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88. "Burton's Final Words"
What the ____? As if he didn't vote for Lill as well.

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89. "Final Words and Next Time"
Next Time: They describe the four finalists ("Sassy Sandra" and "Johnny Rotten" Ha!)

Burtons' Second and Final Final Words: Calls it an amazing experience to be able to come back in. He hopes Jon wins and says that he hopes Lil can live with herself for breaking the alliance.

Ok...just a minute here: WHAT IN GODS NAME GIVES THIS IDIOT THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT???? He acts all sanctimonous about not breaking alliances when he broke pretty much every alliance he formed except for with Jon, and that INCLUDED Lil. Get off my screen, jacka$$.

OK. Rant over.


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101. "RE: Final Words and Next Time"
Burton's an ass and a hypocrite -- I have no idea what logic can be in his head that HE is just coming off a 3-2 Tribal Council in which he BETRAYED HIS ALLIANCE with Lill, then comes out on the short end of the draw and starts claiming how she is going to live with herself for betraying him... apparently the same way you were going to, you hypocrite!
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118. "RE: Final Words and Next Time"
I guess Lill was expected to vote for herself...bad Lill, you don't deserve to win.
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166. "RE: Final Words and Next Time"
Burton is an ass and a hypocrite and a MARKETING DIRECTOR. He lies for a living. He seems very comfortable with saying whatever he thinks his current audience will accept, and clearly never thought about that (or that we just heard him talking about how much he admired Sandra's lack of loyalty).



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180. "RE: Final Words and Next Time"
Burton was a marketing director - for Infinium labs that was supposed to be making the super next generation game system called Phantom:

http://general.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/4263/

But it seems to have been a hoax or at the least a very questionable enterprise. The folks at Hardocp.com did some serious investigation, and this is what they found:

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTEy

And check these exposes of the company:

http://www.ubergaming.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=750

http://www.maxconsole.com/?mode=comments&newsid=1236

In July a news story mentioned someone named "Jim Roberts" as Infinium's marketing director - hmmm, was it Burton in another disguise? Source:
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0VPW/28_25/106336620/p1/article.jhtml?term=%25s

Interesting training/background for this season's Survivor??

Then by August our Burton was replaced by someone named David Frederick:
http://www.gamer-talk.net/interview5.html

Maybe our Burton has some integrity after all....

BTW Infinium has an awesome web site! Go here and click on the Broadband version:

http://www.infiniumlabs.com/intro.html


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136. "Burton is an a$$$"
That's right... 3 dollar signs!
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169. "Johnny Rotten"
>Next Time: They describe the
>four finalists ("Sassy Sandra" and
>"Johnny Rotten" Ha!)
>
>


...alright, before anyone gets too excited about MB's creative ability, Johnny Rotten is NOT an MB original nickname (as I'm sure 90% of the people on this board know). Johnny Rotten is the well known lead singer of the Sex Pistols....and he's way way more rotten than this Jon...its not even close.


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174. "RE: Johnny Rotten"
Yeah, I know. I just found it amusing, more so than the Fairplay nickname.


Yet another Jslice masterpiece!
"Let's hope Osten doesn't smoke. He might decide to quit breathing." - Jims02, Ep 7a Summary

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91. "Burton's an idiot"
Thank God he's off the show.

"Lil, I hope you can live with yourself. We had an alliance, and you broke it."

Who's name did Burton write down? Hmmmm... I don't know...


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92. "Halfway there..."
Half of the abomination has been corrected... the first of the two Loser Lodge returnees has had his torch snuffed (again!).

Burton... yer a big cry baby, too...

Tellin' Lil "hope you can live with it"... come on! Suck it up and deal with it yah big loser!

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94. "Burton - sore loser!!"
He's dissing Lil, telling her that she broke her alliance. Man what a baby. He's so wishy washy and now he got it in his face.

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100. "RE: Burton - sore loser!!"
Thats the pot calling the kettle black!

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103. "RE: Burton - sore loser!!"
Nice swoop there Katie.


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107. "Burton whines!"
Burton joins John Savage as big baby and sore loser, why Lil should have been happy to be voted out by these two!
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98. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
I have never seen 2 jury members give each other knuckles over a boot like Christa and Rupe did tonight, it was precious!

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111. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
That was the best episode!! I was watching it with 5 other people, and I swear the walls fairly shook when we yelled! We were so happy!

Although....

No more manly, sun-bronzed Burton muscles to ogle...

Eh... that's what the Rewind button's for, anyway.


Just waxing poetic here, but in some of the camera shots, Lill, Sandra, and Darrah kind of reminded me of the 3 Fates in Greek mythology.

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158. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
I know Sandra saw them smile but im wondering if the others did and whether they will infer that Lil is a goner bc of outcast status and therefore thats how she gets to final 2? We know how rupert ryno and christa will vote it seems
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170. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
I don't think so. I think that Burton was disliked because he was Burton and he played the game as he did, not because he is an Outcast. Everyone on that jury knows that Burton and Jon did them in. Rupert and Christa in particular have to blame Burton for their demises.
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99. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
THE.BEST.SURVIVOR.EPISODE.EVER!!!!
Bye Bye Burton!
And Burton, YOU didn't keep your promise either so quit your whining you CRYBABY!!
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106. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
I was thinking the same thing. This episode was incredible. Burton and Jon made complete asses of themselves. You never wanted a strategy to work more than you wanted this strategy to work. And was an idiot to complain about Lil breaking an alliance when all Burton ever did was break alliances (including with Lil).

I cannot wait to see Johnny Fairplay sulk at the beginning of next episode.

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120. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Z, I don't think that Jon will sulk, I think he had a real good idea what was happening, look how complimentery he was to everyone at TC, he's going to blow off the Burton vote and work on everyone wanting to take him to the finals because they can all beat him!
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124. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Jon did try to warn Burton that the women were going to gang up on him. But Burton's arrogance wouldn't believe it. Then Jon started believing Burton.
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145. "Jon's talk was all show"

he was being sarcastic as hell and playing to the jury, pure and simple. I dare say he didn't mean a single word of it, but he thought it sounded good.

Go.away.Jon.you.make.me.sick.,pompous.ass!


--oh, and Burton? good fricking riddance. Eeesh!

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104. "Burton Bites it"
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

Burton the ignomonious - first survivor ever voted out twice. Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

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110. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
NEXT WEEK: Survivors must navigate a series of barriers perforated with Darrah-shaped holes. Stay tuned!

Most.One-sided.Challenge.Ever.

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112. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
NEXT WEEK: Survivors must navigate a series of barriers perforated with Darrah-shaped holes. Stay tuned!

Now THAT was funny!

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117. "What, no "scrambling"?"
what was so unexpected about a Burton boot? and no natural disasters? hmph!
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140. "RE: What, no "scrambling"?"
I think when we saw Lil sliding down the rocks when they were collecting mussels...THAT was scrambling!

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162. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
LOLOL Good one Kneezy!
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113. "Leave poor Burton alone!"
The poor dear is close to tears!

Yah buncha heartless bastiges!

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114. "RE: Leave poor Burton alone!"
Ice - now that is too funny!!


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116. "RE: Leave poor Burton alone!"
Don't feel too bad for baby B, soon he'll have his playdate with baby Fairplay, I hope!
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119. "RE: Leave poor Burton alone!"

of course.


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129. "At least the tent won't smell like..."
... ass anymore!
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133. "RE: Leave poor Burton alone!"
LOL!

Burton is an idjit!

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134. "Awwww"
Isn't he the cutest widdle wooser!

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115. "Random observations "
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 09:49 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 12-11-03 AT 09:24 PM (EST)

What the hell was burton thinking even taking Johnny with him on the rc and getting the girls a chance to start strategize that was plain sloppy and he got hat he deserved He does have balls though I'll give him that his final words are just plain idiotic and thats all i got to say about that
Jonny swapped places with sandra in this episode ironically in knowing what the plan was but still doing nothing about it whay the hell was he smiliing at the tc he semmed shocked at first but then he didnt seem worried anymore
was that an ic they made just so Darrah could win they could have saved us all time by just giving her the sword. Darrah still has yet to be in any real danger during this game ep3 didnt count everybody knew she wasnt going
Lill looks like one of our finalists and i can see her getting tore a new one and then crying they almost messed up and showed us the granny panties but luckily the shirt was too long one more of those sights and I would have Ostened.
maybe now we can all put to rest that jon sandra alliance baloney Sandra played a half assed game and only made as far as she did because she is so inept but hey whatever works. swearing on the kids though thats about as despcicable as jonny swearing on his grandmother . shes like jonnys female survivor twin
interesting final four but that final three is going to suck but o well thats how the game plays out i guess
what a bunch of sore asses on the jury or maybe they were happy because they know burton knows how to party
Down with Rupert and that damned tye die shirt

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121. "RE: Random observations "
Is it just me or does Sandra look younger and better every week? I know at the beginning everyone said she looked much older and some people were even wondering if she was the older woman, but I think she looks much better now than when the game started! Her skin just has a nice healthy glow and she's not covered in bug bites like everyone else.

And all her eye rolls and expressions at TC were great!

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147. "RE: Random observations "
Wasnt mamakim edited in the exact same way in s3? kinda weird dontch think
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152. "RE: Random observations "
Sandra's hair has always looked nice, but she is getting prettier every week as she loses some weight.

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123. "RE: Random observations "
I think your observations are right on.

Can we put the Grannie panties to rest? I'd hate to think what you think she ought to wear at 50!

Also loving Sandra more than ever, what a foil to Jon.

I too am a bit sick of seeing Rupert the Perfect roll his eyes and continue to behave so poorly.

Ok, no more bashing here.

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127. "RE: Random observations "
true about the granny panties... at least it's not a g-string

ooh, wouldn't it suck to be stuck wearing a g-string for 39 days? the SAME g-string...

::shudder::


I like comfy panties, dammit

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135. "RE: Random observations "
now thats just sick shudders
my complaint isnt about her choice of undergarments its just the fact that the editors see need to punish us by keep showing them given during the challenge last week it was necessary but the almost accidnetal exposure on this show was uncalled for. i mean ruper was freeballing we werent forced to look at that all time

tj was stuck there pretty long with a thong though

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154. "RE: Random observations "
1) I agree. Burton should have taken Lil, just to make sure nothing happened.
2) I now hope Burton bashes everyone at the final TC and votes for Darrah to win
3) If that's how excited Rupert, Christ, and Sandra are at Burton going, they better start singing and dancing when Jon goes.4) Now 3 of the last final 5 Reward Challenge winners - Burton, Ted, Sean - got eliminated that episode. - The Curse of the Car Reward
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157. "RE: Random observations "
true in 6 car reward challenges weve had 3 who won the car only get voted out that same episode
1 make it to f3
and 2 be the f2 loser afer making dumb choices in the f3
so to those of you future players dont win the final reward challenge its cursed
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163. "RE: Random observations "
When he first chose Jon, I told my roomie that I thought it was because, at this point in the game, he couldn't trust Jon to be back at camp where he can't keep an eye on him. (similar to his choice not to give Rupert the RC date with Lil)

Then he opened his mouth.

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125. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
Some major plotting and scheming going on this episode. And MB turned it into gold. I think this is the best edited episode ever.
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126. "RE: S7 - EP12 East Coast Update Thread "
I agree. He didn't really hide it. And we loved watching it happen.
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128. "My Rant"
I am not going to carry on about this and I will only say it once.

I am not upholding Burton and his words at all. I am not taking up for Burton. I do like Burton butt he was very cocky and said things that I did not agree with.

HOWEVER, Rupert is much more of a cry baby than Burton! Rupert was the one that went balistic on Jon because Jon voted against him. Rupert was the one that went back to HIGH SCHOOL when he was voted out saying that he never fit in then and he still doesn't!

RUPERT IS JUST AS MUCH A BABY AS ANY SURVIVOR EVER!


From now on I will take this to bashers butt there is no way that these things should be said of Burton and not Rupert as well!

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130. "RE: My Rant"
Hey Vols, chill. When Rupert got voted out that was the time to rant about him. Now its Burtons time. It's appropriate.


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131. "RE: My Rant"
well after ruperts performance at the tc i think rupert deserves a little more time
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142. "RE: My Rant"
Rant away Vols...Rupert gave a performace at TC with his eye rolls and fist knocking...MB has shown it to us and is therefore fair game!
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156. "RE: My Rant"
I agree about Rupert. Ever since the tirade on Jon after Trish left, I have had no respect for Rupert.

Also for all those who say Burton betrayed the Lil alliance first. Like Burton said last week, he said he would never LIE to the other outcast in the game. Lil forgot the deal and last and this week did plotting on forgetfulness. If we assume Burton broke his deal and never told Lil he was voting for her, I think they equally broke the pact.

Congrats to Ryan O. who was the only jury member that didn't act like he or she just won the Super Bowl when the last vote had been read. Not everyone is sour grapes.
At this point, I hope Darrah wins.

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177. "RE: My Rant"
I disagree. I thought it was almost ingenius for Rupert to go off on Jon like he did. Funny too - since we viewers all knwo what a TRUE WEASEL Jon really is! As for his final words, well, I think they were kind of dumb and heat of the moment mis-spoken. I even said to my friends "well, what about the hopes and dreams of the people that he had gotten voted off?" In other words, I thought it was dumb for him to say, but other people I like say dumb things sometimes too!!!

Now, Burton *did* lie to Lil, didn't he? For Lil to be "pure", she should have fessed up to Burton that she was going to vote for him. I don't see where it would have made a difference in the outcome, other than it wouldn't have been a "blindside." However, I think she can live with what she did. He was going and that was that - whether she was honest about it or not.

Back to Burton not being honest with Lil: Who did he tell her they were voting for? Sandra? I don't remember him telling her anyone except D and that was before IC. Obviously, they didn't show B telling L they were going to vote for her, so he did break his promise to be "totally honest." And he told us last ep that you never know until TC the truth about how anybody is going to vote. He should have lived by his own words!

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184. "RE: My Rant"
WOW! Rupert ingenius for jumping on Jon? NO...can we say CHILDISH? Rupert also called the place...HIS ISLAND! Well, sorry Rupert but Jon is calling the shots!

Lil "pure"? Hell, she has told more lies than anyone left in the game except for Jon!


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193. "RE: My Rant"
You say childish, I say ingenious... let's call the whole thing off

Well, okay, maybe not ingenius, but original. When has anyone gone off on another player like that? Rupert put the fear of gawd in Jon. Jon looked like a puppy with his tail between his legs and then he had to backpeddle and weasel his way out of his con. You must not like Rupert for some other reason to not like what he did. Or you have some soft spot for Jon. He's a pr!ck.

I don't recall Lil lying too much other than maybe when she was put on the spot. But that's more like a fake field goal attempt when telling the truth would lose the game for you and you are lying to a liar. I was just hoping Lil would keep her word with Burton and tell him that she was going to vote for him. It wouldn't have mattered (if she had done it right before TC, after it was too late for Burton to muscle D or S) and she wouldn't have broken her promise.

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194. "RE: My Rant"
Sure we can agree to disagree...Actually, I don't like Jon or Rupert! LOL! I was a Burton fan and on this thread people were really harsh on Burton that I thought was unfair.

For some reason, everyone thinks that Rupert is the best person to have ever played Survivor...which I disagree with as well. Actually, Lex comes to mind as a player that has gone off on someone else for voting against him. And as I recall, Lex was given a very hard time by these very people on this board for him being such a baby! I don't see any difference in what Lex did and what Rupert did. I think both players deserve the same reaction and that didn't happen.

I don't like Jon for the way he has played the game. Butt, I like Jon for the way he played the game! Funny isn't it! Actually, I really don't like Jon and the way he has lied his way through the game. Butt, I think he is the only one left that is playing the game and prolly the only person left in the game that deserves to win (with his strategy).


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12-11-03, 09:58 PM (EST)
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132. "Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
Without the Outcast twist, this season probably would have been another boring pagong show--espcially if Morgan had managed to get the upper hand. The Outcast twist is what made it possible to have unaligned people who could go back and forth. Of course, having a lying schemer like Johnny did not hurt either, but this season has been great. This espisode was great--probably the best episode ever.

I know a lot of people get really into the "integrity of the game" aspect of Survivor. If this were a professional sporting league, I would agree. But this is entertainment, and gosh darn it, I have been really entertained. The recent ratings tend to support this as well. Ever since the Outcast twist, I believe ratings have been up.

Bringing back the Outcasts is no more unfair than the original twist in S3 as well as the obviously tilted challenges that MB uses all the time to try to help an underdog or favorite player.

As long as MB does not directly affect the vote or "cheat" in the results of a competition, let the twists keep coming--as long as I remain entertained.

Slight digression--people seem to be critical that the IC helped Darrah so much because she had small hands. This is true, but a real physical challenge would have been an easy victory for Burton, and I doubt anyone would have thought that unfair. As long as the nature of the challenges changes from event to event, I think it is fine that some challenges greatly favor one player.

Back to my main point--the Outcasts made this the best season ever. Without the Outcasts, the only interesting thing the whole time would have been Rupert--and he got a bit boring to watch all the time after a while. This season rocks. The Outcast idea rocks. Even MB rocks (ok, I guess I shouldn't go that far).

End of rant. Let the flames commence.

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12-11-03, 10:31 PM (EST)
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137. "RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
zzz, Do you have any predictions for the final 2 or even the sole survivor? By the sounds of your rant I'd be guessing you might be either JP or MB!

This season is a big disappointment. The only way it could end in an exciting fashion would be if Jonny "The Rotten" takes it all!

Sorry if this doesn't belong on this board but after that post I couldn't resist.

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12-11-03, 11:06 PM (EST)
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146. "RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
Sorry if this doesn't belong on this board but after that post I couldn't resist.

You go right ahead and post it on this thread. This is the one thread a week where you can bash and bruise any and all of the contestants, post your rants, thoughts etc. All other threads...verbotten...here, go for it!

mistofleas --east coast thread ranter since it began

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12-11-03, 10:52 PM (EST)
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139. "RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
Are you kidding me? The outcast twist was a complete sham. A twist is fine, however, changing the basic rule of the game to me is a crock.

For one thing, the outcasts are being kept along for the ride. So now I predict that Lil will be in the final 2. It seems for sure. Who would vote her? None of them like her, and she was booted once. The real game now exists amongst the other 3.

It seems that the predictions here, spoilers or not, have been bang on. So...whether or not you think there would have been pagonging or not...it still sucks. I would guess the ratings are high this season for 2 reasons. Rupert and Jonny Fairplay. These are the 2 stars of the show. One everyone loves, and one everyone hates and neither will win it all. Sad I say.

My biggest disappointment with Survivor is that it is not at all about surviving. If we were truly surviving, the weak would get booted and there would be no reward food challenges. A true winner would win challenges, and be a good provider. Sadly, the winner is often someone who keeps their mouths shut, wins infrequently or strategically and is not annoying.

Abbahammer

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12-12-03, 00:54 AM (EST)
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168. "RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
>For one thing, the outcasts are
>being kept along for the
>ride. So now I
>predict that Lil will be
>in the final 2.
>It seems for sure.
>Who would vote her?
>None of them like her,
>and she was booted once.
> The real game now
>exists amongst the other 3.

If everyon dislikes Lill, why is that everyone still in the game (as opposed to viewers) keeps saying that they do not want to go up against her in the F2? Jon said it and Darrah agreed, Sandra said it, and tonight Burton has said it, too.

Christa has said that after a day or two, no one cared about the Outcast twist and it was back to playing the game as usual. Maybe it will matter a whole lot at the FTC, but so far, all the indications are that none of the jurors are all that concerned about it, except maybe Ryan O.

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12-12-03, 01:18 AM (EST)
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172. "you just don't get it"
>Are you kidding me? The
>outcast twist was a complete
>sham. A twist is
>fine, however, changing the basic
>rule of the game to
>me is a crock.

....There are no rules, that's the point. MB can do whatever he wants in order to make the show more interesting and therefore more appealing to his consumers and advertisers. That's kind of the whole point of making a TV show...not honoring some supposed rules that you made up anyway. As one of those consumers I give MB my full and complete blessing to do whatever he wants to make the show more interesting.

Try looking at it this way...what is more important to you, to be guaranteed that each season of Survivor is going to be fun and exciting or to be guaranteed that each season of Survivor would produce a true and deserved champion, but there is a good chance that you end up with a repeat of Thailand or Africa.

Get it?

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12-12-03, 05:50 AM (EST)
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181. "RE: you just don't get it"
Shakes, you put that beautifully!

I'm sick of people whinning about the integrity of the game, it's a TV show for gosh sakes!

I for one was glad to see the shake-ups this season adn I hope there are more to come in ASS

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12-12-03, 00:34 AM (EST)
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165. "Darrah's performance in IC"
I wonder if MB and the Gang were the ones blindsided by Darrah this week. I have my suspicions that they would have expected everyone to fill to the red line, just like they have always done in other challenges and in other seasons. That Darrah thought to reach inside for the key, instead, was probably a surprise to everyone.
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12-12-03, 08:42 AM (EST)
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182. "RE: Darrah's performance in IC"
It may have been my eyes playing tricks on me, but at one point I could swear I saw Burton sticking the canteen strap down into the tube and trying to snag the key that way. Did anyone else notice that?
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12-12-03, 08:45 AM (EST)
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183. "RE: Darrah's performance in IC"
Yes. He did try to snag it with his canteen strap, but it didn't work.

---
UDG
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12-12-03, 00:46 AM (EST)
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167. "RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-03 AT 00:48 AM (EST)

"Slight digression--people seem to be critical that the IC helped Darrah so much because she had small hands. This is true, but a real physical challenge would have been an easy victory for Burton, and I doubt anyone would have thought that unfair."

You are so right.... surviving is not simply a matter of being the strongest... In animal world, chameleons are not very fast and yet they have this other ability that protects them from predators... The goal here is to survive, and I don't see why a challenge that favors something other than brute strength or intelligence should be considerend not as worthy!

Edited to say that I also agree completely with what SnowBunny just said

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12-12-03, 01:45 AM (EST)
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175. "RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
>"Slight digression--people seem to be critical
>that the IC helped Darrah
>so much because she had
>small hands. This is true,
>but a real physical challenge
>would have been an easy
>victory for Burton, and I
>doubt anyone would have thought
>that unfair."

I must also agree. Most challenges favor one contestant or type of contestant. Physical favors strong, "Fallen Comrades" favors the friendly, and this one favored the smaller Survivors. Look at the reward challenge. It was mostly physical and Burton, the strongest player won. I don't know whether Darrah is lucky or good when it comes to ICs and it doesn't matter. All that matters for her is that she wins. And as someone (can't remember who) once said, "It's better to be lucky than good."
Go Darrah!

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12-12-03, 02:10 AM (EST)
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179. "RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
Isn't the saying:
"It's good to be good, but it's better to be lucky"?

Same meaning, different wording. Probably some Ancient Oriental Proverb

I read it in a book by Jim Cramer (stock market guy). His wife said that to him (wrote it on a note, I think). I don't think he claimed it was original, that's just where I remember reading it...


Back on-topic: It does seems silly to think that you can come up with challenge that NO player has an advantage with. If no player had an advantage, they would all tie. The question is whether the advantage is unfair, and I certainly wouldn't call small hands an unfair advantage

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12-12-03, 05:06 PM (EST)
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192. "RE: Outcast Idea Worked Great--This Episode Proved It"
>Back on-topic: It does seems
>silly to think that you
>can come up with challenge
>that NO player has an
>advantage with. If no
>player had an advantage, they
>would all tie. The
>question is whether the advantage
>is unfair, and I certainly
>wouldn't call small hands an
>unfair advantage

Exactly. Nobody complains about it being an "unfair advantage" when there's a cerebral game that the brainiest player appears "favoured" to win, just like nobody fusses about strong men having an "unfair advantage" in physical competitions.

As long as the competitions are sufficiently varied *across the entirety of the season* there is no unfairness. It would only be unfair if ALL the challenges were designed such that ONE human characteristic -- strength, or cleverness, or being a good listener, or stamina, or academic intelligence, or manual dexterity, or whatever else -- were the key to winning EVERY challenge. Only then could we realistically complain that the show was designed for one particular individual to win.

Kudos to Darrah on her IC wins. As much as she's not my favourite, I will be comfortable with her taking the big money if that's what pans out, based on her performance in the last couple of weeks AND, of course, the fact that she had managed to keep herself in the game in order to start shining late in the day.

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12-12-03, 01:11 AM (EST)
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171. "I heart ZZZ"
>I know a lot of people
>get really into the "integrity
>of the game" aspect of
>Survivor. If this were
>a professional sporting league, I
>would agree. But this
>is entertainment, and gosh darn
>it, I have been really
>entertained.


...finally, someone else who "gets it" 100%! It's nice to know I'm not alone.

I'm soooo sick of hearing people cry about the Oucasts ruining the fairness of the game. People need to realize what Burn-it realized after Survivor 2....Survivor is NOT a game, it is NOT a test of survival abilities , it is NOT a contest.....IT IS A TV SHOW! Survivor is no different than Dallas, Days of Our Lives, or any other soap opera. The most important aspect of the show and the only aspect that matters is DRAMA, and anything that MB can do to increase that level of drama will be done no matter what the cost to the so-called integrity of the game.

If you want to watch a sporting event/game switch your channel to ESPN. But, if you want to see a quality drama show with plenty of fighting, intrigue, over-acting, and stupidity then watch Survivor cause it brings all that and more.


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12-12-03, 01:25 AM (EST)
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173. "RE: I heart ZZZ"
anything that MB can do to increase that level of drama will be done no matter what the cost to the so-called integrity of the game.

Amen to that.

MB's job is to make it interesting, and he's definitely done that this season. As annoying as I find him (or at least his editing) personally, Jon may be on to something with connecting professional wrestling to survivor. The point for the producer in both is to maximize interest in the product, create villans to boo and heroes to cheer. Fairness isn't nearly as important as entertainment for both.

Think of Thailand, which most people considered to be exceedingly boring and a bad season. Why? Other than Brian and to a lesser extent Clay and Penny, there was no one left in the game at the midway point who really evoked strong feelings one way or the other for most of the general public. That's the ultimate goal, and for Pearl Islands the reintroduction of Burton and Lil shook up the personalities and provided Jon a chance to thrive as a villan and Rupert to be a sacrificed hero to the eyes of most of the public.

Whether we like it from a "fairness" standpoint, the twist did save this season from being Thailand redux. And for that, we should be thankful.


Yet another Jslice masterpiece!
ExI will now say goodnight...he's gotta finish his last outline tomorrow afternoon.

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12-12-03, 11:44 AM (EST)
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188. "RE: I heart ZZZ"
"...Jon may be on to something with connecting professional wrestling to survivor."

Ah...so you agree with me that it's comedy, then?

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12-12-03, 10:15 AM (EST)
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185. "RE: I heart ZZZ"
Getting "props" from shakes. I never thought that would happen, especially on this issue after all the complaints about what they did on Love Cruise.

I think everyone will enjoy themselves more if they look at Survivor as "theater" rather than "competetive event."

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12-12-03, 11:38 AM (EST)
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186. "RE: I heart ZZZ"
Drama? And here I've been thinking sitcom all this time...


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12-12-03, 00:00 AM (EST)
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159. "Next time on Survivor..."
On a special 2-hour Sunday episode!

Anyways...when they show the 4 people on the screen at the same time a la Brady Bunch (pretend they're Marcia, Greg, Cindy, and Bobbie), I think MB's giving us the boot order. I think it was Jon, Sandra, Lil, and Darrah. Not sure about the Marcia or Greg, but I know the bottom two are right.

At least I hope so.


Even when you can't see Him, God is there!

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12-12-03, 11:40 AM (EST)
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187. "RE: Next time on Survivor..."
So Marcia goes before Greg and Bobby wins?


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12-12-03, 04:07 PM (EST)
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190. "RE: Next time on Survivor..."
Exactly!


But how does Phoebe play into all of this...
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