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"Sandra/Jon Alliance...let's take a look at the pics..."
Sneezles 114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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12-09-03, 06:13 PM (EST)
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"Sandra/Jon Alliance...let's take a look at the pics..." |
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 11:19 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 12-10-03 AT 11:17 AM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 12-09-03 AT 06:28 PM (EST) Tribal Councils that Jon & Sandra voted in: -Ep 4, TC (Edited 12/9/03) Thank you HE. -Ep 5, TC -Ep 6, TC -Ep 7a, TC -Ep 7b, TC -Ep 8, TC -EP 9, TC
-Ep 10, TC -Ep 11, TC Ok, here's how I've marked these. The majority vote is marked by a blue dot, the one voted out is red.
When I started watching Survivor (Amazon was my first), I was told to watch where people sit at tribal council. That a lot of HIDDEN alliances are given away by who sits by whom. If you'll notice, the only times that Jon and Sandra sit next to each other AND vote together are when the entire tribe (except the booted) votes the same person out. If Jon & Sandra are make different votes, they are sitting next to each other. But if they have an alliance that doesn't include everyone else in the tribe, they sit away from each other...like they are hiding their alliance. I don't know, but the pics seem to tell a story here that there may be one that they didn't want seen. -JMHO Sneezy.....
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-09-03, 06:24 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Sandra/Jon Alliance...let's take a look at the pics..." |
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-03 AT 06:43 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 12-09-03 AT 06:42 PM (EST) your description seems a little off in a couple instances (such as your Ep 4 pic is incorrect - michelle and shawn voted with burton and against christa) but they DO seem to sit next to one another an awful lot for people who supposedly hate each other's guts. eta except for the michelle boot (ep 5), the only times sandra and jon DON'T sit together is in Ep 7b and 8, the first 2 TCs post-merge - which, if a jon/sandra alliance is true, could be trying to sell their hatred to the new guys (edit again cause i got my exception wrong, lol)
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Blow by Blow 895 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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12-09-03, 11:47 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Sandra/Jon Alliance...let's take a look at the pics..." |
Hmmm...that's a fairly convoluted analysis, but I appreciate the effort you've put in. So how is TC seating determined? They all walk in single file and then go to whatever seat they like? Or do they file to the first available seat like organized schoolchildren? In either case, people might not be sitting next to each other despite walking in together, so that throws a wrench into the analysis. Another problem is that we're looking at a pretty small sample size and the odds of Jon sitting next to Sandra in a group of five or six people is pretty high. Three of the eight TCs had six or fewer people in it. So what I'm saying is that, just like confessional analyses, you can't extrapolate relationships and alliances. Wait! Maybe you can. The only time Jon ever sat next to Burton was during the unanimous RyanO boot. -P
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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12-10-03, 01:05 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Sandra/Jon Alliance...let's take a look at the pics..." |
Sneez.. this is interesting. The person who suggested watching for hidden alliances in seating was none other than Tina Wesson, winner of S2.I think the seating order is not assigned, but that the contestants file in and take a seat in whatever order they arrive. This makes me wonder why Jon and Sandra would be walking together. Is there a hidden alliance here? I don't think so. but it is food for thought. Here's another possibility: Jonny FairlyRotten may be sitting next to Sandra to disguise his one true alliance with Burton. These reality show contestants need a reality check!
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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12-10-03, 11:46 AM (EST)
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5. "this thresd should be locked" |
>--thinks it's pretty clear and evident >that Jon and Sandra hate >each other ....this thresd should be locked...not because its redundant, or non-spoiler related. Only because its the single dumbest theory in the history of Survivor. I would be willing to bet everything I own, have ever owned and will ever own that Misto's above statement is the only statement that needs to be said in this matter. When I read this Sandra/Jon secret alliance crap all it makes me realize is that the author of the thresd is bored with this season and needs to come up with something interesting to talk/think about, no matter how ridiculously incorrect it is.
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Booted 156 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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12-10-03, 12:15 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: this thresd should be locked" |
Shakes the clown brilliantly said:“.... this thread should be locked...not because its redundant, or non-spoiler related. Only because it’s the single dumbest theory in the history of Survivor." I would agree 100... no make that 1000% if only... I do not like Jon. I think he is a weasel (and I hate to give weasels a bad name). But... let's look at what he has done. He has lied to everyone. Not new... many have lied heavily in this game. He lied about his Grandma being dead. Hmmm... original even if I don't like him. Seems to be working so far. What BETTER way to hide you alliance than to make EVERYONE think you hate each other? Yell... Scream... Connive... I just think that Sandra would have gotten mad enough and pissed off enough at others to yell at them. Why only yell and make a scene with Jon when they booted Rupert? Why not yell at Burton? He had just as much to do with it as Jon. Why not yell at Lil? She was really the one that betrayed them as they (Sandra, Rupert and Christa) thought they had her with them. If they did have Lil with them and it would have been 4 vs. 4 what better way to assure that there is no tie than to vote for the one everyone knows you hate (but really are aligned with). I just think all the hate is aimed at Jon because they are together. What better way to hide it? Jon is not a dummy (I hate saying that) and I think he dreamed this up before he came just like the Grandma thing. I have been wrong before (if you look more that I have been right) and I may very well be wrong again but I do believe this one. Booted
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Blow by Blow 895 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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12-10-03, 12:32 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: this thresd should be locked" |
Ouch. Harsh words from the clown. I don't think I've seen you since S2, but then again I haven't been looking. -P
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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12-10-03, 03:15 PM (EST)
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14. "of course I'm right" |
>You don't know how correct you >may be with this one. ..yes I do, that's why I said it.
>must. Y'all are probably right, >I'm simply trying to find >something that isn't there just >b/c it would make things >more interesting. ...apology accepted. Now can we please stop once and for this nonsense about a secret J/S alliance.
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Missing_Rupert 46 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-10-03, 01:03 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Sandra/Jon Alliance...let's take a look at the pics..." |
It is intriguing (sp?) but I think doubtful. If they were in the super-secret alliance...1. Why would Sandra have hung Jon out to dry on the Trish vote? They didn't know about the ghost tribe, and didn't know the merge was so soon, so she would have been setting Jon up to go next. 2. More recently, her fights would be more about the camp, work etc., not accusing him of backstabbing and planting the seed that he is not to be trusted.
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