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"More from Ryno"
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"More from Ryno" |
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID2&conf=DCConfID1Ryan O. tells all -- well, as much as CBS allows At least one person on "Survivor" thinks it's time for little Lil to turn in her Boy Scout uniform. "Lil played terribly in the beginning, but she was nice and sweet and just wanted to do good for her family and win some money," says Ryan Opray, 30, Redwood City native and current Los Gatos resident during a recent phone interview. "Then when she got a second chance to come back on the show after getting voted out of the tribe, she changed. Maybe she should have taken off that Boy Scout uniform. "Andrew (Savage) said it best when he was on (David) Letterman after he got voted off: 'It's pretty bad when you can trust the attorney and not the Boy Scout leader.'" Opray, better known as "Ryno" on "Survivor," got the boot last week and became the first ousted member to become a part of the jury which will de- cide who the ultimate survivor will be -- and, thus, who will cash in on that million buck prize. And it probably won't be Lillian Morris, 51, if Opray has a say. As part of the twists and turns in "Survivor" this season, producer Mark Burnett threw quite a jolt into the game when he decided to have the two tribes, Morgan and Drake, go up against a new tribe made up of contestants who had been kicked out of their tribes during earlier tribal councils. As a result, two new tribe members were allowed to come back: Lil and Burton Roberts, 31, of San Francisco. A bit of a flap occurred early on when Websites reported that Burton had won "Survivor," according to inside information. There was even a rumor that friends of contestant Sandra Diaz-Twine, 29, of Ft. Lewis, Wash., were running across the border to Canada to place bets on Burton. When Burton was booted off, it seemed as if the reports were all bogus. Then Burton returned. But he's still a front-runner in the first to get the boot, according to what seems to be unfolding on the show. Ah, the intrigue. The rumors. The twists. It's all part of the "Survivor" mystique and the reason why this show consistently pops up in the top 5 in the Nielsen ratings. Opray says he has no problem with how he was portrayed in the show. "I got edited to be the nice guy. There were times when I blew up and screamed and had attitude, but that wasn't shown," Opray says. "I guess someone in the editing room liked me." What about Rupert Boneham, the 39-year-old troubled teen mentor from Indianapolis, who seems to need a little anger management mentoring himself? "Rupert is a teddy bear. I befriended him immediately, and he taught me how to fish. He only yelled at me one time, when he stuck me in the hand with a spear while I was trying to push the fish into the bag. It was the only time we ever got into it," Opray says. "Rupert and I got along, although he did scare almost everyone else in the tribe." As for misconceptions about the show, Opray's a little surprised as he watches how the show portrays Jon Dalton, 29, as being slightly nutty. "Jonny Dalton and (his 'Survivor' alter ego) Jonny Fairplay are two different people. He's not a jerk, but after watching him on TV, people want to kill him," Opray says with a laugh. "He's a normal guy who can be pretty annoying at times. OK, I probably wanted to kill the guy a couple of times." At times, even at the worst when his tribe was struggling for food, Opray says he thought he might like to live on the island full time. "Andrew and I were talking one time and said we could live here," Opray says. "Then we looked at each other and said, 'Well, if we could fish we could stay here.'" As for who he hopes will win it all, Opray doesn't skip a beat: Darrah Johnson, the 22-year-old mortician from Mississippi. "We have a good relationship, I'd take of her and she'd take care of me. (The tribe members) would say, 'Go with your wife and get food.' It was funny, because nothing was really going on between us," Opray says. Opray says he'll probably go back to work as a carpenter in Los Gatos because "I need money." But he hopes to pursue acting. And he hopes to make the "Survivor: All-Stars," featuring 18 contestants from past editions of the CBS reality series. The extravaganza premieres after Super Bowl XXXVIII on Sunday, Feb. 1. The players, to be announced later, will be vying for a $1 million prize and bragging rights to the title "Ultimate Sole Survivor." -------------------------------- Boy, this guy cannot stop rooting for Darrah to win S7. And now he's rooting for Lillian to lose too. Hmmm. And how nice that Ryno hopes he makes ASS -- is he so clueless he doesn't know it's already filming? Or maybe the reporter botched up something there, since there are other errors -- Burton was given the best odds early on one site, but I don't remember any spoiler about him winning. The Vancouver bets were placed on Sandra, not Burton. 
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11-20-03, 07:27 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: More from Ryno" |
It continues to amaze me that Andrew and Rhino take no responsibility for their loss.Why in heavens name should Lil trust either one? She may not be much of a player but she understood who voted her off, and then made no effort to win her back. We seem to learn about D only through these exit interviews, will MB ever focus on her? I'd hate a "V" win.
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11-22-03, 09:56 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Darrah" |
I went back and watched all of the audition videos for the final 8 the other day, to see if I could get any further insight on their pregame mentality. Johnny Fairplay was just the same as he is now, so was Rupe, Sandra, Christa, Burton, and Tijuana. Lill spouted off about the scouts giving her pledge and all, not real interesting stuff at all. Darrah was the biggest surprise. Her audition tape was hilarious, she showed some skin, she talked very confidently, and in short was a totally different person then what we have been shown so far. Is that because of how she is being edited, or perhaps because that is how she has intended to play the game so UTR? It also strikes me as odd that on day 9 when approached by T she barely had anything to say about herself to convince the tribe to keep her, was that reverse pyscology because she knew she was stronger then Lill and figured the others would come to that conclusion on their own? Or was her early bond with Ryno enough to make her feel confident that they would oust Lill and not her? There is a lot left to figure out about Darrah... 
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11-22-03, 10:23 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Darrah" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-22-03 AT 10:25 AM (EST)>Darrah was the biggest surprise. Her audition
>tape was hilarious, she showed
>some skin, she talked very
>confidently, and in short was
>a totally different person then
>what we have been shown so far.
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>Is that because of how she
>is being edited, or perhaps
>because that is how she
>has intended to play the
>game so UTR? It also strikes me as odd
>that on day 9 when approached by T she barely
>had anything to say about
>herself to convince the tribe
>to keep her, was that
>reverse pyscology because she knew
>she was stronger then Lill
>and figured the others would
>come to that conclusion on
>their own? I really feel there is much more than what we're being shown -- I'll bet you $5 that Darrah did fight to stay and explain why she should be kept ahead of Lillian in Ep.3 but that part was left on the cutting room floor. One of these days, I'll post my observations from the conversations I had with Christy while she was in my hometown at the end of September, I learned a lot of things about how they edit Survivor and how they do things in the show that you'll never see on TV. I was surprised at a number of things that went on during S6 upon hearing it from Christy (i.e. Jenna really got a hatchet job from the editors and Matthew was edited far more positively than he probably deserved to be). What I'm saying here ties in with what's been posted above in this thread -- Darrah is likely being well-hidden to take attention away from her as a potential winner (I wouldn't be surprised if she goes in Ep.11 which is traditionally the 'clueless-beauty-gets-booted' episode), and I think we're going to see a LOT more of Sandra as a manipulator or go-between in the next few episodes.
 
Heidi: My biggest assets to the tribe are my athletic skills and my intelligence. I've lost one of them.
Jiffy: Which one?
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11-23-03, 04:09 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Darrah" |
Darrah stated part of her strategy was to use her looks as a tool. I think I have no trouble believing that assisted her in at least making sure Ryno kept her around when there was indication that Darrah would go before other Morgans.How you THINK you are going to play the game and how you actually end up playing the game can be totally different things. I have no trouble believing Darrah is outgoing, flirty, etc. (I believe I read she was a cheerleader, she was homecoming queen or runner up, she had no problem being in her bikini in her audition, etc.) However, getting on that tribe and seeing people like NICOLE with her attitude get booted, then seeing Tijuana (who uses her mouth) be in a less than great position, seeing how Andrew dominated the tribe, etc. strategy may have to change. I honestly would like to think that MB cuts the "stuff" that is not necessary for the story and the people to progress. Darrah is what she is and personally I think her story is what we are seeing. A pretty girl with decent athletic skills who used her prettiness and/or outgoing nature when she needed to but nothing where it was so over the top (a la Jerri) that it really required to keep in. She is staying low in a cast full of big mouths and egos because she is probably smart enough to realize that another strategy she may have considered won't wash. Sometimes there IS nothing more to show but if she would be the winner, then she still managed to outplay, outwit and outlast. If her strategy was to maintain a nice neutral demeanor among a crew of major Type A personalities who are going to kill each other off, so be it. She made a good strategic choice. 
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11-23-03, 04:58 PM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 11-23-03 AT 06:12 PM (EST)Ugh!
So far this season we have seen the following people highlighted and given a goodly amount of airtime: Osten: quit, but was a favorite to bash while it lasted
Rupert: got the MOST airtime next to Osten - booted
Andrew: Mr. Armani stood out for looks and tears - booted
Ryan: the hapless fisherman, voted most likely to fail - booted Jon: the shrill of the group, loves the camera and attention - still in
Sandra: admits to saying ugly things at TC - still in
Lil: self proclaimed bi*ch and scumbag - still in
Burton: camera loves to see him flex - still in Christa - not as much airtime as these others, until this week with the whole food issue. - slated next to go. T & D - not much, don't know them, don't care about them. Still there, but who are they really? Lack personality. Not camera friendly. Would it be much of a show if these two were highlighted over the others? Even the iguana had more of a personality.
We might as well enjoy everyone else while they still have airtime, cause I'm seeing a pretty boring final 3. 
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11-23-03, 05:22 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Darrah" |
The problem is (IF Darrah is that winner.......) MB can only do what he can do with the person, period.If Darrah did indeed take this approach and there is NOTHING to highlight, then you do the next best thing. Showcase the theme, showcase the villians, showcase the twists and perhaps in an UTR situation, give the impression that in the midst of all this chaos, those who did not follow suit, got to the top. volsfan, Vee was (to a good majority) a horrific and botched editing job. I believe that MB did the Inveesible editing on purpose as an new and interesting device in misdirecting the viewers but from what I recall, Vee was an extremely strategic player but WAS hidden. I don't necessarily believe MB would EVER do that again and in fact we saw an almost step by step approach by Brian the following season coupled with the fact he allowed the audience to see Brian for what he was even before the contestants did. At this point, IMO (which is often dead wrong lol) I think MB is focusing the audience on the deceptions, the chaos, the personalities butting heads and or trying to take over. Darrah's approach to this game (if the opposite end of the spectrum) may just be his showcasing how those who stay back from the fray and allow others to perform mutiny, cheating, stealing, lying, etc. will be the victor. Is it unsatisfying? Yes, to me anyway. But I've come to the conclusion that Mark Burnett is telling his story his way for his purposes. Whether the outcome generates a positive or negative reaction doesn't matter because it is still going to elicit a reaction and he wants that. However, as a lot of you know, I don't "fit" the show to the spoilers but I wanted to point out how it could be if, in fact, Darrah is the one and this is all we are getting.
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11-23-03, 07:19 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Darrah" |
TOO FUNNY!
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11-24-03, 01:41 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Darrah" |
I always wonder if Darrah did fight to stay in the game over Lil. All we heard was what T and Andrew said about it. Maybe T just told Andrew that Darrah hadn't said anything. Darrah and T may have had a strategy for that, or T did. The editing doesn't always let you know what really happened, only what we are told happened. We never saw Darrah in a confessional saying she didn't fight to stay in the game. We do know that Ryan fought to keep her. Ryan and Andrew have both talked about Darrah and her personality and that she was fun and worked. They did not see her as we do. MB is just not showing her. And only he knows why. My guess is that he wanted to spend time telling the story of the players who were booted before her. Maybe now that Rupert is gone we will see more of Darrah and find out how close she is with T. Do they have a strategy? If she is the winner I expect to see Darrah focused on more in the next few eps. But if she is continued to be hidden. I think she was just considered not important to the storyline. And she doesn't make final 2. The Rupert story is now over. Time to focus on Darrah if she makes final 2. Otherwise she is just another UTR player that didn't win or make great TV.
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