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05-19-01, 03:43 PM (EST)
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55. "Apologies for being out of it, but ..."
First, to Dalton and Dangerkitty,
I'm stunned with pleasure at having such nice things said about me on the basher thread. And yes, Dalton, I absolutely took you up on your invitation to come look at Bashers, only I only read rather than posted because I was caught up in the spoiling aspect. I do want to be a Basherbabe, I do, I do, if I only have the nerve.

And Aya K, thank you for all your kindness too. Does your post mean you did go to law school? I haven't but I've taken law classes. Tell us more about how public policy clashes with the legal rules; will that come into play with Shakesivor?
The funny thing I got from being around litigators is the weird position of being 95% sure you'll settle before trial, but you have to do everything/lay all groundwork as if you were going to a jury; on the other hand, never really think beyond the task at hand because seeing the Gestalt's too much work to put into something that might settle in a week and get off your calendar permanently. So, on one hand you're trying to get out early before you get all stressed and hungry, ala Bitchell, but on the other hand, what if you end up staying the course and addressing the jury. Hmmm, I hadn't really thought about it, but MB turns the whole jury concept on its head by picking jurors with a direct line to the parties they're judging instead of jurors who only see and hear what the court deems relevant and proper.
But I digress.
Aya K, you listen to Zappa and know great sci-fi. More points as if you needed any. I have a couple Zappa stories. I went to high school in his hometown and my ex-husband went to high school with Captain Beefheart (mentored by Zappa, in case the connection's not clear, except that Zappa was fiercely anti-drugs and Beefhart used to dose his band members, as I understand it). We ended up letting one of the Magic Band members park his travel trailer on our property and recover from the mindgames. My current husband was making experimental films when a friend referred a young screenwriter to him. The friend was Zappa's English teacher and the Frank had a screenplay. Unfortunately, there was no way back then to make all those special effects, especially without a budget. But my husband and Frank did meet, and then my H did a bad at a party at Frank's house and slipped him some acid to him thinking he needed to loosen up (disclaimer: all fiction, never happened). But who knows, he may have caused some new and different synnaptical connections.

To other topic: I have so enjoyed hearing all these birth stories!
Sherpa Dave, I spent a winter on the Olympic Peninsula I'll never forget, 130" of rain. We were living in a homemade camper with our 15 month old son in Beaver and then Forks, til we moved into an old homestead on the Bogachiel River with no power, of course, water from a well that you had to pull up by hand in after throwing the bucket down just right, and an old 2-seater outhouse (two different sized holes). My son was toilet-trained at 18 months because we had to throw all the diapers away and couldn't afford Pampers. No, he wasn't traumatized; he was into it. That's where my second son was conceived, so I'm kind of sentimental about the place. We had a wild pony and a herd of elk living in the yard.

With my first son, we were going to have him at home because the hospital had mandatory spinals, no pushing allowed. Then my in-laws showed up (they owned our house) just prior to delivery and decided to remodel the house. While I was in labor, my father-in-law was outside the door hammering away like no way was this going to keep him from having a productive work day. Then my mother-in-law calls the public health nurse, she shows up and says I'm not properly dilating--must rush to hospital. So off we go and spend my next hour answering paperwork questions between contractions. Then they leave me alone in a room. No help, just mad because they didn't get to prep me (shave and enema, that's another thing they did in the bad-old-days).

Then, half an hour later, baby born with no drugs, just fine.
That said, with No. 2 we left on our 60 mile drive (around hairpin curves on Hwy 1) to the hospital at the first pain!
I had no clue what I was doing the first time; I was just lucky.

Anyway, love hearing all these stories and specs. Will keep reading and return after my finals are over. That's the mundane secret behind my absence.

Love,
Outfrontgirl

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Let's meet the ladies of Shakesvivo...   shakes the clown     05-17-01       
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   dangerkitty     05-17-01     1  
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   Drive My Car     05-17-01     2  
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   mistofleas     05-17-01     3  
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   George Tirebiter     05-17-01     4  
     RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   VampKira     05-18-01     5  
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   Superman     05-18-01     6  
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   Cherberrie     05-18-01     7  
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   ItzLisa     05-18-01     8  
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   SherpaDave     05-18-01     9  
     shakes' role   AyatollahKhomeini     05-18-01     10  
         RE: shakes' role   dangerkitty     05-18-01     11  
         RE: shakes' role   desert_rhino     05-18-01     12  
             RE: shakes' role   dangerkitty     05-18-01     13  
                 RE: "about 15 seconds"   PokeyOkie     05-20-01     58  
     RE: SherpaDave has a good idea!!!   Dalton     05-18-01     14  
         RE: SherpaDave has a good idea!!!   SherpaDave     05-18-01     15  
         RE: SherpaDave has a good idea!!!   dangerkitty     05-18-01     16  
         Dalton makes sense   George Tirebiter     05-18-01     17  
             RE: Dalton makes sense   SherpaDave     05-18-01     18  
                 RE: Dalton makes sense   ItzLisa     05-18-01     20  
                     RE: Dalton makes sense   SherpaDave     05-18-01     23  
                         RE: eating=conjugal   George Tirebiter     05-18-01     26  
             RE: Dalton makes sense   Dalton     05-18-01     19  
                 RE: Dalton makes sense   George Tirebiter     05-18-01     21  
                     RE: Dalton makes sense   desert_rhino     05-18-01     22  
                     RE: Dalton makes sense   ItzLisa     05-18-01     24  
                         It's all in how you approach it, It...   George Tirebiter     05-18-01     28  
                             Reactions   AyatollahKhomeini     05-19-01     47  
                                 RE: Reactions   George Tirebiter     05-19-01     49  
                                     Thinking like a lawyer   AyatollahKhomeini     05-19-01     50  
                                         RE: Thinking like a lawyer   George Tirebiter     05-19-01     52  
                     RE: Dalton makes sense   SherpaDave     05-18-01     25  
                         You TOO, Sherpa????   ItzLisa     05-18-01     27  
                             RE: You TOO, Sherpa????   SherpaDave     05-18-01     29  
                                 RE: You TOO, Sherpa????   mistofleas     05-18-01     30  
                                     RE: You TOO, Sherpa????   SherpaDave     05-18-01     31  
                                         RE: You TOO, Sherpa????   mistofleas     05-18-01     33  
                                     RE: For Misty and Liza & all the gi...   Dalton     05-18-01     41  
                                 Kids, huh?   George Tirebiter     05-18-01     34  
                                     RE: Kids, huh?   SherpaDave     05-18-01     36  
                     Labor Stories   Kismet     05-20-01     56  
                         RE: Labor Stories   Riordan     05-20-01     57  
                             It doesn't HAVE to hurt, people!   George Tirebiter     05-20-01     59  
         let the bashing begin (we'll start ...   shakes the clown     05-18-01     35  
             RE: let the bashing begin   dangerkitty     05-18-01     37  
                 Terminology   AyatollahKhomeini     05-18-01     39  
                 RE: let the bashing begin   ItzLisa     05-18-01     42  
             RE: let the bashing begin (we'll st...   SherpaDave     05-18-01     38  
             RE: let the bashing begin (we'll st...   George Tirebiter     05-18-01     40  
             Did anyone else just get chills?   Kismet     05-18-01     43  
   RE: Let's meet the ladies of Shakes...   Mon Cherie     05-18-01     32  
   Naive?   Drive My Car     05-18-01     44  
     RE: Naive? Sadly, not.   George Tirebiter     05-18-01     45  
         An FZ theme for shakes?   AyatollahKhomeini     05-19-01     46  
             RE: An FZ theme for shakes?   George Tirebiter     05-19-01     48  
             RE: For AyaK & GT......   Dalton     05-19-01     51  
                 RE: For AyaK & GT......   George Tirebiter     05-19-01     53  
                     Shakesvivor?   AyatollahKhomeini     05-19-01     54  
                         RE: Shakesvivor?   George Tirebiter     05-20-01     60  
                     Apologies for being out of it, but ...   Outfrontgirl     05-19-01     55  
   Archives? Not yet   AyatollahKhomeini     06-17-01     61  
     Wrong!   AyaK     08-13-02     62  

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